Re: 3.0 CD has missing files!

2002-07-29 Thread Kaz Sasayama
Brett E. Wynkoop wrote:

>Greeting-
> I just downloaded the 3.0 disk 1 CD image from a mirror site and burned it.
>I then went to the doc/install directory to find that all the files were 
>zero legnth!
>  
>

Does your system support the Rock Ridge extensions? It seems your system
mounted the disc without it and just failed to recognize the symbolic links.

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CD Cover Artworks (Policy?)

2002-07-29 Thread PÁSZTOR György

Hi,

I saw many CD Cover Artworks at http://www.debian.org/CD/artwork/
But, many of them doesn't contain:
- License
- *.xcf or any editable version

I think, that if an artwork has a link it would be nice, if it has at least
any license about the usage of it. Eg. who can use it, can I modify it, etc.
And I think also, that an artwork in .jpg or .png is unusable. Because, the
debian CD set contains seven CD's not one. So, if sy. make an artwork, he
should do:
a; 7 front + 7 back .jpg multiply by 11 (+1 source) archs, and my multiply
by 2 because the .jpg and the .png format
or
b; put out an .xcf file, where I can change the arch's name and the serial
number.

Thanks!

Sincerely,
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NONUS?

2002-07-29 Thread ErykD



Dear Debian CD team,
 
I read the FAQ concerning the "NONUS" and non 
"NONUS" versions of cd images of Debian linux distribution, but I just can't 
figure out which one should I download. 
I am a citizen of Poland and I don't know if 
in the FAQ "everybody" meant everybody worldwide or just the US 
citizens?
 
So my question is: "Should I download the 
"debian-30r0-i386-binary-1.iso" or "debian-30r0-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso" cd 
image?" Thank you.
 
Best regards,
 
ErykD


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Re: NONUS?

2002-07-29 Thread Glenn McGrath

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:20:28 +0200
"ErykD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear Debian CD team,
> 
> I read the FAQ concerning the "NONUS" and non "NONUS" versions of cd
> images of Debian linux distribution, but I just can't figure out which
> one should I download. I am a citizen of Poland and I don't know if in
> the FAQ "everybody" meant everybody worldwide or just the US citizens?
> 
> So my question is: "Should I download the
> "debian-30r0-i386-binary-1.iso" or "debian-30r0-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso"
> cd image?" Thank you.
> 

Download the NONUS one.

NONUS is a confusing name.

NONUS means complete, the normal (US?) one is crippled due to politics.

The only reason not to use the NONUS cd image instead of the US cd would
be if you were afraid of the possible legal repercussions for having
access to crypto software some countries dont want their people to
have privacy.


Glenn


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Re: NONUS?

2002-07-29 Thread Richard Atterer

Hi Eryk,

"Everybody" means "everybody"! ;-) You should download the
"debian-30r0-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso" image.

Cheers,

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Re: CD Cover Artworks (Policy?)

2002-07-29 Thread Richard Atterer

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 10:43:11AM +0200, PÁSZTOR György wrote:
> I saw many CD Cover Artworks at http://www.debian.org/CD/artwork/
> But, many of them doesn't contain:
> - License
> - *.xcf or any editable version

Yes, it's not ideal. However, I'm afraid that I haven't got the
enthusiasm to come up with a policy, update the web pages, ask all
existent graphics authors whether they agree to the policy, and
re-check with any new submitters whether they agree. If you want to
take care of all this I'm sure we can arrange something. :)

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: New CD cover variant for Debian Woody

2002-07-29 Thread Richard Atterer

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 12:11:22PM +0700, Dmitry N. Hramtsov wrote:
> I'd like to propose my CD cover for debian woody release.
> You can download it from http://debian.nsu.ru/CDCover/

Thanks, I've added it to the artworks page, it should appear there
soon.

> P.S. Why don't you place official CD covers to
> http://www.debian.org/CD/artwork/ ?

Because no official CD covers exist. :) I'm working on some right now,
though. They might become "semi-official", but I don't know if they
will.

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: NONUS?

2002-07-29 Thread Philip Hands

On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 11:17, Glenn McGrath wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:20:28 +0200
> "ErykD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Debian CD team,
> > 
> > I read the FAQ concerning the "NONUS" and non "NONUS" versions of cd
> > images of Debian linux distribution, but I just can't figure out which
> > one should I download. I am a citizen of Poland and I don't know if in
> > the FAQ "everybody" meant everybody worldwide or just the US citizens?
> > 
> > So my question is: "Should I download the
> > "debian-30r0-i386-binary-1.iso" or "debian-30r0-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso"
> > cd image?" Thank you.
> > 
> 
> Download the NONUS one.
> 
> NONUS is a confusing name.
> 
> NONUS means complete, the normal (US?) one is crippled due to politics.
> 
> The only reason not to use the NONUS cd image instead of the US cd would
> be if you were afraid of the possible legal repercussions for having
> access to crypto software some countries dont want their people to
> have privacy.

Well, that used to be true, until the crypto stuff generally got moved
into the US main (on the assumption that the US would never re-introduce
silly draconian laws.  Oh.  Oh dear, never mind), so now if you live in
a country where they still have laws against crypto, then you have a bit
of a problem using Debian CDs now.

These days, non-US is mostly for things that are governed by US patent
law, or perhaps DMCA infringing stuff, although people seem a bit timid
about uploading, or perhaps hosting that sort of thing for some reason.

Anyway, we should probably call CD1 CD1_US, CD1_NONUS CD1, and have
things like patent.debian.org, dmca.debian.org etc.  instead of just
non-US.debian.org, and still consider the amalgamation of all the main
sections on all of them to be the one true Debian, even if it turns out
that we cannot legally assemble that whole anywhere on the planet.

Of course, if nobody actually cares about things like the fact that
violent games are illegal in Germany (assuming they still are) then
going to all that effort is not justified.

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Re: nfs for lan for DVD

2002-07-29 Thread bbennet

Hello to the list.  A DVD goes too slow for ftp on jigdo.

Maybe dump the list file to ftp first and then jigdo it?
Sort of a pik/jigdo combo?

This is on a working Debian woody machine that makes debian-cd
just fine.
I have switched to a Debian woody machine with 
linux 2.4.18
>Maybe now we get a >4 gig file.
>We try again with local ftp.

ftp slow:
local ftp gets 10 files and 
then makes a 4.6 gigabyte DVD tmp file
then the DVD tmp file disappears
Then it gets 10 more files.
Then it makes another 4.6 gigabyte DVD tmp file.

This is sloww.

8858 file / 10 = 885 huge DVD files to make

I now will use the kernel-nfs-server.
I have switched to an nfs mount of the mirror
and told jigdo to scan it as if it is 
an existing image or mounted CD.

The work continues much much faster.

Somebody needed to know...

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Re: nfs for lan for DVD

2002-07-29 Thread pbm

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> local ftp gets 10 files and 
> then makes a 4.6 gigabyte DVD tmp file
> then the DVD tmp file disappears
> Then it gets 10 more files.
> Then it makes another 4.6 gigabyte DVD tmp file.

raise the filesPerFetch setting in ~/.jigdo-lite or in the script itself.

by the way, I have another problem, a checksum problem on a file. This
is strange since I didn't had any problems doing a jigdo cd set from the
same archive, so I'm thinkink about an error in the template file.

can anybody confirm my idea?

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Re: FilesPerFetch for DVD

2002-07-29 Thread bbennet

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, pbm wrote:
>> then the DVD tmp file disappears
>> Then it gets 10 more files.
>> Then it makes another 4.6 gigabyte DVD tmp file.
>
>raise the filesPerFetch setting in ~/.jigdo-lite or in the script itself.
>
>by the way, I have another problem, a checksum problem on a file. This
>is strange since I didn't had any problems doing a jigdo cd set from the
>same archive, so I'm thinkink about an error in the template file.
>
>can anybody confirm my idea?
>
>p.

Hello to pbm.  Good to hear from you.

a fine and helpful answer! 
Thank-you very much pbm.
(I only lost a weekend)

I will give it a whirl on 9000 files per fetch.
Note to self:
"Must read all installed executable items ..."

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Bug#154751: MD5 Checksum Mismatches on 3.0 Release CDs

2002-07-29 Thread Norbert Junghenn

Package: cdimage.debian.org
Version: 3.0

Hi,

I downloaded the Woody ISO-Images and burned the CDs.
While the MD5 checksums of the entire images did match
I encountered checksum errors when verifying the single
files on the CDs against the md5sum.txt in the root
directory of the CD.
The checksum mismatches appeared identically on my FreeBSD
installation and on a Windows installation with a self done
port of GNU md5sum.
The problem also remained with a secondary set of CDs burned
from the same images.

You can find the error reports in the files attached
(db1.err == Debian CD 1, db1n.err == Debian CD 1 non-US, ...)
CD 6 and CD 7 did not produce checksum errors.

What happened? How shall I continue?

Thanks for your great work and regards,

Norbert




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Re: nfs for lan for DVD

2002-07-29 Thread Richard Atterer

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 07:08:56PM +0200, pbm wrote:
> by the way, I have another problem, a checksum problem on a file. 
> This is strange since I didn't had any problems doing a jigdo cd set
> from the same archive, so I'm thinkink about an error in the
> template file.
> 
> can anybody confirm my idea?

It's hard to say since you don't give any details. Generally speaking,
jigdo has proven pretty robust - a corrupted file on your Debian
mirror is more likely than a problem with the template file.

If the file is by chance called "driver-4.bin", please upgrade to the
latest jigdo version.

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: NONUS?

2002-07-29 Thread Richard Atterer

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 05:36:36PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> Anyway, we should probably call CD1 CD1_US, CD1_NONUS CD1,

I'd call it CD1_CRIPPLED. :-)

> Of course, if nobody actually cares about things like the fact that
> violent games are illegal in Germany (assuming they still are) then
> going to all that effort is not justified.

Games like Quake are not illegal, they're just not to be sold to
minors and mustn't be publically offered for sale (AFAIK). Not that
this would prevent the kids from playing them...

But mp3 encoders are a good example; I think the patent is only valid
in Germany, nowhere else.

Cheers,

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Re: nfs for lan for DVD

2002-07-29 Thread Richard Atterer

On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 11:35:48AM -0500, bbennet wrote:
> ftp slow:
> local ftp gets 10 files and 
> then makes a 4.6 gigabyte DVD tmp file
> then the DVD tmp file disappears
> Then it gets 10 more files.
> Then it makes another 4.6 gigabyte DVD tmp file.

Really? - this Should Not Happen(tm)! The tmp file is only created
once, afterwards small parts of it are overwritten.

Maybe you're using jigdo-lite 0.6.5 or earlier. Big file support in
jigdo only works with v0.6.6 or later.

> This is sloww.
> 8858 file / 10 = 885 huge DVD files to make

Additionally, you'll only get an error message at the end, not a DVD
image...

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: nfs for lan for DVD

2002-07-29 Thread bbennet

>On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Richard Atterer wrote:
>
>>On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 11:35:48AM -0500, bbennet wrote:
>>> ftp slow:
>>> local ftp gets 10 files and 
>>> then makes a 4.6 gigabyte DVD tmp file
>>> then the DVD tmp file disappears
>>> Then it gets 10 more files.
>>> Then it makes another 4.6 gigabyte DVD tmp file.
>>
>>Really? - this Should Not Happen(tm)! The tmp file is only created
>>once, afterwards small parts of it are overwritten.
>>
>>Maybe you're using jigdo-lite 0.6.5 or earlier. Big file support in
>>jigdo only works with v0.6.6 or later.
>
>dpkg -l jigdo-file shows 0.6.5-1
>I just got it from my mirror and it was run yesterday.
>
>H.
>
>apt-setup
>went to a new mirror
>
>apt-get install jigdo-file
>It says I have the latest thing 0.6.5-1

I just went to your fine site and got the 0.6.8 deb installed.

Will fling self `once more into the breach'.

Thanks for the info.

Have a good one.

Cheers, Bill Bennet

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