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Re: JIGDO-EASY2WIN (newbie)

[Richard Atterer]

Hello,

[Phil, I know I've nagged you about this before, but it's important:
Please grep Contents out of the files passed to "jigdo-file
make-template", or we'll have a gazillion messages like this on woody
release.]

On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 12:15:38PM -0300, Paulo Abreu wrote:
> I am using JIGDO-EASY2WIN and, although I have tried a
> couple of mirrors, it seems I can never get all the
> necessary files to compile a CD.
> Is this usual?
> Any "good" mirror out there that I could use?

You're not saying what image you're trying to download - try one of
these only for the few missing files:

Debian=http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-pre10/snapshot/
Non-US=http://non-US.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-pre10/snapshot/

Debian=http://cdimage.debian.org/2.2r6-snapshot/
Non-US=http://cdimage.debian.org/2.2r6-snapshot/non-US/

Note that this is a very frequently asked question, searching the
mailing list archives would have helped...

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: JIGDO-EASY2WIN (newbie)

[Philip Hands]

On Tue, 2002-06-25 at 23:12, Richard Atterer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> [Phil, I know I've nagged you about this before, but it's important:
> Please grep Contents out of the files passed to "jigdo-file
> make-template", or we'll have a gazillion messages like this on woody
> release.]

Your timing is impeccable. :-)

/me goes of to restart debian-cd for the 4th time ...

That problem should now be gone, and will be visible as soon as I manage
make a version of this run that's worth publishing.

Cheers, Phil.
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Re: JIGDO-EASY2WIN (newbie)

[Mattias Wadenstein]

On 26 Jun 2002, Philip Hands wrote:

> On Tue, 2002-06-25 at 23:12, Richard Atterer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > [Phil, I know I've nagged you about this before, but it's important:
> > Please grep Contents out of the files passed to "jigdo-file
> > make-template", or we'll have a gazillion messages like this on woody
> > release.]
>
> Your timing is impeccable. :-)
>
> /me goes of to restart debian-cd for the 4th time ...
>
> That problem should now be gone, and will be visible as soon as I manage
> make a version of this run that's worth publishing.

If you can without too much trouble, please build all arches. I'd like to
do some infrastructure testing, that is building all the images from jigdo
files. My current estimate is somewhere aroudn 22-24 hours for building
the full set.

/Mattias Wadenstein


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RE: Debian Woody HP-PA

[Charlier, Gerald (G.)]

Many thanks Manty.

We will download and test it. We will let you know what are the improvements
on 735/99 with CRX48Z.

Is there someone interested on a CRX48Z for free ? I will be happy to offer
it if it could help supporting Xfree on this kind of hardware.

Thanks again.
Gérald.

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À : Charlier, Gerald (G.)
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Objet : Re: Debian Woody HP-PA


> I would like to test the latest distribution. As hppa.trasno.net and
> iesc.udc.es are dead, where could I find the latest ISO for HP-PA ?

Maybe it was dead (it is the same machine) but it is not now, and I have
just built new hppa images available in both jigdo and iso styles for you to
test.

However, there are official beta images available via rsync at
cdimage.debian.org on the jigdo-area

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Re: Sorting boot images into the beginning of the CD.

[Philip Hands]

On Tue, 2002-06-25 at 08:31, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Okay, if someone can provide a patch then, it would be great. 
> 
> All the information we need is in /usr/share/doc/mkisofs/README.sort
> The default "offset weight" is 0. You can prioritize complete
> directories, you don't have to specify each file. In our case, we just
> want /boot to be at the beginning (and maybe /install following).
> We must take care because the content of the "sort file" depends of
> the mkisofs command line (we must use exactly the same path than the one
> given on the command line).

Hmm, I should obviously have checked this more thoroughly, since the
splitting of the boot directory was one of my tweaks, and was supposed
to fix this (and I'm pretty sure it did at the time, so has mkisofs
changed to do a global sort, or was I just imagining that it fixed this
for a while?)

I'm testing this patch, and will commit it if it works OK:

=-=-=-=-
--- tools/boot/woody/boot-i386  2002/05/15 21:32:02 1.37
+++ tools/boot/woody/boot-i386  2002/06/26 12:00:58
@@ -198,10 +198,14 @@
 
 # write final lines to mkisofs_opts
 if [ "${ISOLINUX:-0}" != "0" ] && [ "$NN" = "1" ]; then
-echo -n "boot$N " >> $N.mkisofs_opts
+echo -n "-sort $N.mkisofs_sort boot$N " >> $N.mkisofs_opts
 else
-echo -n "-c boot/boot.catalog boot$N "  >> $N.mkisofs_opts
+echo -n "-sort $N.mkisofs_sort -c boot/boot.catalog boot$N "  >>
$N.mkisofs_opts
 fi
+
+# make the boot directory sort first, to keep the rescue images at the
+# start of the CD/DVD.
+echo "boot$N 1000" > $N.mkisofs_sort
 
 
 # th,th, thats all
=-=-=-=-

Do we need this only on i386, or is it worth making the same change for
some/all  other archs?

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Image ISO wrong

[Vincent . Moreno]

Hello,

I tried to retrieve the 
http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian-cd/2.2_rev6/i386/binary-i386-1.iso and this image is 
wrong.

All french sites seem to be wrong, I tried on another mirror site (US) and now all is 
ok.

Best regards.


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Re: Debian CDs for woody release

[Philip Hands]

On Sat, 2002-06-22 at 14:59, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 02:23:50PM +0100, Philip Hands écrivait:

> > Also, there have been the suggestions about adding a few newbie friendly
> > packages to those included on the first couple of CDs, preferably CD#1,
> > presumably by adding them to tasks (as mentioned a few times by Mantas
> > Kriauciunas).  I think this should be doable without to much greif, and
> > would be a good thing, but I'm not sure who's responsibility it might be
> > to decide to add things like that to tasks, or whatever.  Is this
> > something that simply going to be delayed till 3.0_rev1, or is there any
> > opportunity to fix this before release?
> 
> You're the one who builds the image, so it's up to you to modify the
> tasks file if you feel that it's required.

I wasn't talking about the debian-cd tasks file, I was talking about the
tasks as seen by tasksel.

There seems little point forcing newbie friendly packages onto CD#1 if
they are never going to install them because tasksel is not going to
offer them.

If there's some way of overriding the existing Tasks in packages, at CD
build time, then I'm willing to give it a try, but I've had a look, and
it seems that it's down to the boot-floppies and the original packagers,
which means that we're well past the time when they could be changed for
this release.

Sorry for the delay in this reply --- annoying customers wanting me to
do what they pay me for.  I guess I get to pay the mortgage as a result,
so shouldn't complain.  ;-)

> However I'm sure that there's
> no perfect solution ... if you push more things on CD1, something else
> will go out and someone else will be unhappy.

If people complain about the loss of penguineyes-gnome, and the like, I
think I'll be able to live with that.  There are a few such packages
filling gaps on CD#1, so it should be possible to improve things a
little.

> As I understand it, all
> the packages for all the tasks already take more than one CD so that I
> wonder how we can do better for CD1.

Well, the gap at the end of CD#1 is too small to take any of the tasks
that end up on CD#2, but that doesn't mean that CD#1 is actually full at
that point, so it gets filled with random (popularity inspired?)
packages after that AFAICT.

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Re: Sorting boot images into the beginning of the CD.

[Philip Hands]

On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 13:03, Philip Hands wrote:
> Hmm, I should obviously have checked this more thoroughly, since the
> splitting of the boot directory was one of my tweaks, and was supposed
> to fix this (and I'm pretty sure it did at the time, so has mkisofs
> changed to do a global sort, or was I just imagining that it fixed this
> for a while?)

Hmm mark 2

As far as I can see, now that I'm checking the sorted vs. unsorted
images, the boot images are at the start of the ISO image anyway, so no
patching is required.

I'm assuming that the jigdo generation process mentions things it finds
in the order they appear on the disk, so when it consistently starts
(before any patching) with something like:

Match of `dists/woody/main/disks-i386/3.0.22-2002-04-03/images-1.44/bf2.4/root.bin' at 
offset 3559424
Match of `dists/woody/main/disks-i386/3.0.22-2002-04-03/images-1.44/compact/root.bin' 
at offset 5036032
Match of `dists/woody/main/disks-i386/3.0.22-2002-04-03/images-1.44/idepci/root.bin' 
at offset 6531072
Match of `dists/woody/main/disks-i386/3.0.22-2002-04-03/images-1.44/root.bin' at 
offset 8019968
Match of `dists/woody/Contents-i386.gz' at offset 9498624
Match of `dists/woody/main/disks-i386/3.0.22-2002-04-03/drivers.tgz' at offset 14710784
...

I'm guessing that means that mkisofs was doing the right thing all along.

I think we've misinterpreted Eduard's original query, which on
re-reading seems to be implying that there's a problem with Knopix, or
there was, or something like that.

Has anyone got any evidence this is the case on Debian? (I doubt it, so
I've just been wasting my time )

If not, the answer to Eduard's question is:

  Just stick the stuff you want at the front in a separate directory (as
  debian-cd has been doing with its boot$N directories for years), and
  mention that in addition to the main tree, and it will put the boot
  stuff first.

Cheers, Phil.
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Re: Sorting boot images into the beginning of the CD.

[Richard Atterer]

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 03:25:30PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> I'm assuming that the jigdo generation process mentions things it finds
> in the order they appear on the disk,

Yes, it does - you can also look at the output of "jigdo-file
list-template", the second/third columns give offset and length of the
parts in the image.

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: JIGDO-EASY2WIN (newbie)

[Richard Atterer]

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:45:57AM +0200, Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
> If you can without too much trouble, please build all arches. I'd like to
> do some infrastructure testing, that is building all the images from jigdo
> files.

NB, there is currently a problem when using jigdo-lite/mirror: ATM,
two driver-4.bin files have exactly the same timestamp on the servers,
which results in jigdo-file getting confused and returning the first
file's md5sum when given the second one.

The solution is to add --no-cache at the end of the $jigdoFile
invocation inside the fetchAndMerge() function of jigdo-lite/mirror.

See bug 150973 for more details. Many thanks to Manty for discovering
this! I'll make a new jigdo release before the weekend.

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: Debian CDs for woody release

[Anthony Towns]

> I wasn't talking about the debian-cd tasks file, I was talking about the
> tasks as seen by tasksel.

The Task: headers in the Packages files on the ftp site are generated
via overrides from tasksel CVS. They can be changed, but by the looks
of things current CVS is for sid (particularly the confusingly named
"produc" task), so I'm not quite sure what the deal is.

We need a "woody" tag in CVS probably.

Joey's been the main task hacker, afaik.

Cheers,
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Re: Debian CDs for woody release

[Joey Hess]

Anthony Towns wrote:
> > I wasn't talking about the debian-cd tasks file, I was talking about the
> > tasks as seen by tasksel.
> 
> The Task: headers in the Packages files on the ftp site are generated
> via overrides from tasksel CVS. They can be changed, but by the looks
> of things current CVS is for sid (particularly the confusingly named
> "produc" task), so I'm not quite sure what the deal is.
> 
> We need a "woody" tag in CVS probably.
> 
> Joey's been the main task hacker, afaik.

HEAD is sid, if we need a woody branch we can split one out.

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Re: Debian CDs for woody release

[Philip Hands]

On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 19:16, Anthony Towns wrote:

> Joey's been the main task hacker, afaik.

Hi Joey,

The suggestion from Mantas is here:

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2002/debian-cd-200206/msg00098.html

The addition of the packages to task-desktop seems harmless to me, so we
might as well IMO, unless you know a reason why this will break things.

On the hardware detection front, I'm afraid I've never installed any of
those packages --- do they do their work in the postinst?  If so, would
having them in a hardware-detection-task do the trick?

I've not used aptitude either.

Cheers, Phil.
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