Re: cvs commit to debian-cd/tasks by hertzog

[Raphael Hertzog]

Le Mon, May 06, 2002 at 02:54:50PM +1200, Philip Charles écrivait:
> Pine was a mistake, however "unexclude-CD2-woody" is needed to get the
> packages onto the second CD, otherwise they end up on a much later CD.
> But on the other hand, this may not matter.

Exactly, it doesn't matter on which CD kernel 2.4.16 ends ... it could
as well be completely removed since we have 2.4.18.

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Re: cvs commit to debian-cd/tasks by hertzog

[Philip Charles]

On Mon, 6 May 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

> Exactly, it doesn't matter on which CD kernel 2.4.16 ends ... it could
> as well be completely removed since we have 2.4.18.

Quite agree.

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cvs commit to debian-cd by philh

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Repository: debian-cd
who:philh
time:   Mon May  6 03:23:31 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  move publish_cds into the tools directory, update it to the version
  currently in use, and add the variables it needs to CONF.sh
  

Files:
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cvs commit to debian-cd/tools by philh

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Repository: debian-cd/tools
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Log Message:
  move publish_cds into the tools directory, update it to the version
  currently in use, and add the variables it needs to CONF.sh
  

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cvs commit to debian-cd by philh

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Repository: debian-cd
who:philh
time:   Mon May  6 03:30:01 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Add some terms to the find used by jigdo to scan the archive, in order
  to make it prefer files from the current distro.
  This stops it using paths that point into potato for files that exist in
  both potato & woody
  

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cvs commit to debian-cd by philh

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Repository: debian-cd
who:philh
time:   Mon May  6 03:36:49 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  make the make mirrorcheck optional, to save time when testing. thus:
SKIPMIRRORCHECK=yes ./build_all.sh
  

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Re: cvs commit to debian-cd/tools by philh

[Raphael Hertzog]

Le Mon, May 06, 2002 at 03:23:32AM -0700, Debian Boot CVS Master écrivait:
> Repository: debian-cd/tools
> who:philh
> time:   Mon May  6 03:23:32 PDT 2002
> Log Message:
>   move publish_cds into the tools directory, update it to the version
>   currently in use, and add the variables it needs to CONF.sh

Can you update debian/CONF.sh in the same way ?

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cvs commit to debian-cd by philh

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Repository: debian-cd
who:philh
time:   Mon May  6 04:38:53 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  add fast_sums and publish_cds variables to debian/CONF.sh
  fix comment typo in CONF.sh
  

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cvs commit to debian-cd/debian by philh

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Repository: debian-cd/debian
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Log Message:
  add fast_sums and publish_cds variables to debian/CONF.sh
  fix comment typo in CONF.sh
  

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Re: cvs commit to debian-cd/tools by philh

[Philip Hands]

On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 12:04, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Mon, May 06, 2002 at 03:23:32AM -0700, Debian Boot CVS Master écrivait:
> > Repository: debian-cd/tools
> > who:philh
> > time:   Mon May  6 03:23:32 PDT 2002
> > Log Message:
> >   move publish_cds into the tools directory, update it to the version
> >   currently in use, and add the variables it needs to CONF.sh
> 
> Can you update debian/CONF.sh in the same way ?

Done.

Looks like someone needs to do the same for DEFBINSIZE * DEFSRCSIZE.

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Repository: debian-cd/debian
who:93sam
time:   Mon May  6 05:00:59 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Added definitions for DEFBINSIZE and DEFSRCSIZE
  

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cvs commit to debian-cd/debian by hertzog

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Repository: debian-cd/debian
who:hertzog
time:   Mon May  6 05:44:07 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  * More syncing between CONF.sh and debian/CONF.sh.
  

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Re: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ lacks a link to suitable ISOs

[Richard Atterer]

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 12:14:50AM +1200, Mark Robinson wrote:
> While http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ has a number of links to
> experimental ISOs for installing debain on machines with internal
> ISDN cards and for installing 3.0, it appears to lack a link or
> instructions for the rest of the world wanting to do a standard
> install on a machine with PPP or ethernet connectovity.
> 
> Perhaps someone with the appropriate powers could update it.

Er, I guess "I have the powers", but AFAICT the info is all there. 
Although I've never tried it myself, the CDs ought to support PPP
installs - and the page clearly says so. If you follow the "detailed
info about the installation" link at the bottom of the page, sooner or
later you will end up e.g. at
,
which explains setting up PPP during the installation.

Hope this helps,

  Richard

PS: Is there any hope for official netinst images?
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problem with jidgo

[Ivan Lopez-Arevalo]

Hello ...

I am using jidgo (for windows) for download the Debian CD images, but the next
message appear:


Oops - not all files could be downloaded...

Depending on the situation, it may help to just restart the download.
Also, you could try changing to another Debian or Non-US server, in
case the one you used was not updated recently.

On the other hand, it may also be that some required files have
disappeared. If the image is still available on an rsync server, you
can try to complete it that way. For another option, read the README.

If you want to restart, press Enter; otherwise press Ctrl-C or close
this window (if running in one).


I re-start and the jidgo program try download the next files:

../doc/package-developer/developers-reference.pdf
../doc/package-developer/developers-reference.txt.gz
../doc/package-developer/developers-reference.html.tar.gz

I have tried with other server, I check the ftp server's and this files are, but
the problem continue 

What happen ?? 

Thanks ...

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Re: problem with jidgo

[Martijn Stegeman]

I've asked this off-list, and the problem seems to be that the Servers
defined in the jigdo are not recognized by jigdo-easy2win.

An intermediate solution is to locate these values yourself in the jigdo
file, and enter them manually as the servers. You can simply restart
jigdo-easy2win, choose the same options but now enter different servers.

These Server lines usually specify a different directory on the server
you got the jigdo file from in the first place.

Regards,
Martijn

On Mon, 6 May 2002, Ivan Lopez-Arevalo wrote:

> Hello ...
>
> I am using jidgo (for windows) for download the Debian CD images, but the next
> message appear:
>
> 
> Oops - not all files could be downloaded...
>
> Depending on the situation, it may help to just restart the download.
> Also, you could try changing to another Debian or Non-US server, in
> case the one you used was not updated recently.
>
> On the other hand, it may also be that some required files have
> disappeared. If the image is still available on an rsync server, you
> can try to complete it that way. For another option, read the README.
>
> If you want to restart, press Enter; otherwise press Ctrl-C or close
> this window (if running in one).
> 
>
> I re-start and the jidgo program try download the next files:
>
> ../doc/package-developer/developers-reference.pdf
> ../doc/package-developer/developers-reference.txt.gz
> ../doc/package-developer/developers-reference.html.tar.gz
>
> I have tried with other server, I check the ftp server's and this files are, but
> the problem continue 
>
> What happen ??
>
> Thanks ...
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Re: problem with jidgo

[Richard Atterer]

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 03:51:20PM +0200, Ivan Lopez-Arevalo wrote:
> I am using jidgo (for windows) for download the Debian CD images,
> but the next message appear:
> 
> 
> Oops - not all files could be downloaded...
[snip]
> I re-start and the jidgo program try download the next files:
> 
> ../doc/package-developer/developers-reference.pdf
> ../doc/package-developer/developers-reference.txt.gz
> ../doc/package-developer/developers-reference.html.tar.gz
> 
> I have tried with other server, I check the ftp server's and this
> files are, but the problem continue 
> 
> What happen ?? 

That's a problem with how the jigdo files were generated. You can
probably fix it by interrupting jigdo-easy, then creating a directory
called "tmp" in the same dir as the .iso.tmp file and placing in it
the following files, which you should download manually:

http://cdimage.debian.org/2.2r6-snapshot/doc/package-developer/developers-reference.html.tar.gz
http://cdimage.debian.org/2.2r6-snapshot/doc/package-developer/developers-reference.pdf
http://cdimage.debian.org/2.2r6-snapshot/doc/package-developer/developers-reference.txt.gz

Afterwards, restart jigdo-easy, it will hopefully pick up the files
and finish the image creation.

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: problem with jidgo

[Richard Atterer]

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 04:58:09PM +0200, Martijn Stegeman wrote:
> I've asked this off-list, and the problem seems to be that the Servers
> defined in the jigdo are not recognized by jigdo-easy2win.

Indeed they aren't - additionally, for the 2.2r6 release the jigdo
files by mistake don't even contain a server line for the 2.2r6
snapshot on cdimage, so the download fails even with jigdo-lite, not
just jigdo-easy.

Cheers,

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cvs commit to debian-cd/tools by philh

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Repository: debian-cd/tools
who:philh
time:   Mon May  6 09:13:36 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  I put the wrong version of this file into the tools directory when I moved it.
  This should be the right one now.
  

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isolinux falures

[Santiago Garcia Mantinan]

Hi!

After testing isolinux in a small number of machines I have came across
several cases of falure, I have already reported falures on Fujitsu Pentium
machines, now this one is relating scsi cards.

After seing all this it makes me think if by using isolinux we are going for
better or for worst, I mean, we used to have a cd that was able to boot on
almost all kind of machines, now we have one that boots on most of the ide
based machines and on some of the scsi ones, otherwise you have to try
cds from 2 to 5 to see if any works for you. Is it just me or does anybody
else think we are going for worst? What about eltorito multiboot? it didn't
work as multiboot on all machines, but at least it booted.

Anyway, let's go for the Debug dump of isolinux that I got on this machine,
the scsi card is a symbios 53c875J based Diamond, and this  is the dump:

ISOLINUX 1.66 2002-01-01
isolinux: Starting up, DL=F0
isolinux: Sector size appears to be 0800
isolinux: Loading main image from LBA=0F8A
isolinux: Sectors to load=0004
isolinux: Disk error 00, drive F0
Boot failed: press a key to retry...

I'm willing to test whatever you propose to solve this problem.

BTW: On both this machines (the Fujitsu and this scsi machine) eltorito
multiboot worked ok, either by booting the default image or by showing the
menu.

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cvs commit to debian-cd/debian by philh

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Repository: debian-cd/debian
who:philh
time:   Mon May  6 10:19:05 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  make the Non-US server entry added to .jigdo files by publish_cds point
  at the new non-US.cdimage.debian.org name for open, so we can move
  cdimage.d.o to raff.d.o in the near future.
  

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cvs commit to debian-cd by philh

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Repository: debian-cd
who:philh
time:   Mon May  6 10:19:05 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  make the Non-US server entry added to .jigdo files by publish_cds point
  at the new non-US.cdimage.debian.org name for open, so we can move
  cdimage.d.o to raff.d.o in the near future.
  

Files:
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cvs commit to debian-cd/tools by philh

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Repository: debian-cd/tools
who:philh
time:   Mon May  6 10:19:05 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  make the Non-US server entry added to .jigdo files by publish_cds point
  at the new non-US.cdimage.debian.org name for open, so we can move
  cdimage.d.o to raff.d.o in the near future.
  

Files:
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Re: isolinux falures

[H. Peter Anvin]

Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> After testing isolinux in a small number of machines I have came across
> several cases of falure, I have already reported falures on Fujitsu Pentium
> machines, now this one is relating scsi cards.
> 
> After seing all this it makes me think if by using isolinux we are going for
> better or for worst, I mean, we used to have a cd that was able to boot on
> almost all kind of machines, now we have one that boots on most of the ide
> based machines and on some of the scsi ones, otherwise you have to try
> cds from 2 to 5 to see if any works for you. Is it just me or does anybody
> else think we are going for worst? What about eltorito multiboot? it didn't
> work as multiboot on all machines, but at least it booted.
> 

El Torito BIOSes are absolute crap.  There is no question about it. 
Unfortunately there is right now *NO* configuration which works on all 
machines.  If you want a configuration that works on all machines, 
you're talking boot floppies.  It really is that bad.

> Anyway, let's go for the Debug dump of isolinux that I got on this machine,
> the scsi card is a symbios 53c875J based Diamond, and this  is the dump:

Where is the SCSI BIOS for this card?

> BTW: On both this machines (the Fujitsu and this scsi machine) eltorito
> multiboot worked ok, either by booting the default image or by showing the
> menu.

With "El Torito Multiboot" I presume you are talking about floppy 
emulation mode (all of this is El Torito.)

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Re: problem with jidgo

[Philip Hands]

On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 16:14, Richard Atterer wrote:
> On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 04:58:09PM +0200, Martijn Stegeman wrote:
> > I've asked this off-list, and the problem seems to be that the Servers
> > defined in the jigdo are not recognized by jigdo-easy2win.
> 
> Indeed they aren't - additionally, for the 2.2r6 release the jigdo
> files by mistake don't even contain a server line for the 2.2r6
> snapshot on cdimage, so the download fails even with jigdo-lite, not
> just jigdo-easy.

That's now fixed --- and I've compressed the .jigdo files too.

I didn't know about the [Servers] section when I did those (and you've
finally nudged me enough times for me to get the hint ;-)

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Re: isolinux falures

[Santiago Garcia Mantinan]

> >Anyway, let's go for the Debug dump of isolinux that I got on this machine,
> >the scsi card is a symbios 53c875J based Diamond, and this  is the dump:
> Where is the SCSI BIOS for this card?

If you mean if it has a bios on the scsi board it does, if you mean where
can one download a bios to have a look at it... the url I get is this one:
ftp://ftp.diamondmm.com/pub/multimedia/fireport/FP40906.exe wich is a winzip
selfextracting file, or I have put the contents for you to download on
http://ftp.manty.net/download/diamond/ the new rom is fireport.rom and the
old one is 405d.rom both behave in the same way when booting from
isolinux cds. If I didn't understand the question please ask again.

> With "El Torito Multiboot" I presume you are talking about floppy 
> emulation mode (all of this is El Torito.)

Yes, it is floppy emulation, it is based on this option of mkisofs:

   -eltorito-alt-boot
  Start with a new set of "El  Torito"  boot  parame-
  ters.   This allows to have more than one El Torito
  boot on a CD.  A  maximum  of  63  El  Torito  boot
  entries may be put on a single CD.

This allows for different boots to be available, thus the multiboot name.

In this scsi bios only the first of the boot entries is seen, but it boots
it perfectly.

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Re: isolinux falures

[H. Peter Anvin]

Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote:
>>>Anyway, let's go for the Debug dump of isolinux that I got on this machine,
>>>the scsi card is a symbios 53c875J based Diamond, and this  is the dump:
>>
>>Where is the SCSI BIOS for this card?
> 
> If you mean if it has a bios on the scsi board it does, if you mean where
> can one download a bios to have a look at it... the url I get is this one:
> ftp://ftp.diamondmm.com/pub/multimedia/fireport/FP40906.exe wich is a winzip
> selfextracting file, or I have put the contents for you to download on
> http://ftp.manty.net/download/diamond/ the new rom is fireport.rom and the
> old one is 405d.rom both behave in the same way when booting from
> isolinux cds. If I didn't understand the question please ask again.
> 
> 
>>With "El Torito Multiboot" I presume you are talking about floppy 
>>emulation mode (all of this is El Torito.)
> 
> 
> Yes, it is floppy emulation, it is based on this option of mkisofs:
> 
>-eltorito-alt-boot
>   Start with a new set of "El  Torito"  boot  parame-
>   ters.   This allows to have more than one El Torito
>   boot on a CD.  A  maximum  of  63  El  Torito  boot
>   entries may be put on a single CD.
> 
> This allows for different boots to be available, thus the multiboot name.
> 
> In this scsi bios only the first of the boot entries is seen, but it boots
> it perfectly.
> 

The point was that the boot menu function and the no emulation vs. hard
disk emulation vs. floppy emulation are orthogonal.

It appears that really old BIOSes work like crap for anything but floppy
emulation; some contemporary BIOSes like crap for anything but no
emulation.  This seems to follow what the current Micro$oft OSes use,
i.e. again -- the BIOS vendors test "does it boot M$, ok then."

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Re: isolinux falures

[H. Peter Anvin]

Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote:
> 
> ISOLINUX 1.66 2002-01-01
> isolinux: Starting up, DL=F0
> isolinux: Sector size appears to be 0800
> isolinux: Loading main image from LBA=0F8A
> isolinux: Sectors to load=0004
> isolinux: Disk error 00, drive F0
> Boot failed: press a key to retry...
> 
> I'm willing to test whatever you propose to solve this problem.
> 
> BTW: On both this machines (the Fujitsu and this scsi machine) eltorito
> multiboot worked ok, either by booting the default image or by showing the
> menu.
> 

Could you please try out 1.67 and 1.72?

-hpa



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tools/boot/woody/boot-i386

[Jim Westveer]

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The line in ...tools/boot/woody/boot-i386 that reads:

echo -n "-cache-inodes -J -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat 
- -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table " > $N.mkisofs_opts

I beleive should read  . >> $N.mkisofs_opts


The way it is currently, it overwrites the default MKISOFS options
that are set in CONF.sh.

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