Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-04 Thread Mateusz Papiernik

> Would there be any objections to setting the default
> boot kernel on woody CD#1 to the bf2.4 flavor ??? 
I think it is good idea, because with bf2.4 you can install
debian (toeretically) on reiserfs.



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Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-04 Thread Mateusz Papiernik

> I think it is good idea, because with bf2.4 you can install
> debian (toeretically) on reiserfs.
but for this, installer must support reiserfs and mkreiserfs
too ... 
but it is still good idea, because 2.4 supports more hardware,
for example usb mouse and keyboard, some new network cards,
and more. I think in installing process there must be full
kernel with support for many hardware, for example 2.4.18 vanilla



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Re: Unidentified subject!

2002-04-04 Thread Richard Atterer

Hi Warren,

On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 12:53:04AM +0530, Warren Brian Noronha wrote:
>  can i have the details abt how to access the debian-cd cvs
>  thnx and keep up the good work

This is mentioned in the FAQ, see :

$ export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/debian-boot
$ cvs login
[leave password empty - press Enter]
$ cvs checkout -AP debian-cd
$ cvs logout

Cheers,

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2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-04 Thread Jim Westveer

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Would there be any objections to setting the default
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Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog

Le Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 07:17:58AM -0800, Jim Westveer écrivait:
> Hi,
> - -- 
> Question:
> 
> Would there be any objections to setting the default
> boot kernel on woody CD#1 to the bf2.4 flavor ??? 

I guess it's a bit late for this change since it probably means that we
have to update the documentation (unless it has not yet been done).
However I don't know which documentation I'm talking about :-/

We have the README.html stuff in debian-cd, there may be references to
debian-cd in the boot floppies documentation, and of course the
debian-cd web site. Would someone check if all are mostly up to date wrt
woody stuff ?

Apart from that, I'd like to hear from debian-boot if there is any
restrictions of use for the bf2.4 flavor ?

And last, woody ought to be 2.2 based and not 2.4 based ... but since I
also find it lame to use 2.2.x by default nowadays ...

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Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-04 Thread Jim Westveer

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On Thursday 04 April 2002 14:13, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 07:17:58AM -0800, Jim Westveer écrivait:
> > Hi,
> > - --
> > Question:
> >
> > Would there be any objections to setting the default
> > boot kernel on woody CD#1 to the bf2.4 flavor ???
>
> I guess it's a bit late for this change since it probably means that we
> have to update the documentation (unless it has not yet been done).
> However I don't know which documentation I'm talking about :-/

Actually that would be:
http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html

it mentions (incorrectly) the boot flavors that will be found on the 3.0 
CD's;  so that needs to be updated anyway.  

The 2.4bf kernel has actually been available for quite some time, I am
just suggesting that it be the 'default' kernel for the i386 CD#1.  It solves
many problems when installing on newer hardware, whos function/devices
are not supported by older kernels.

- --side note, I have tested this change, burned a disk, and done a few
test installs, and actually it has worked flawlessly for me.not that that
means anything;-)

>
> We have the README.html stuff in debian-cd, there may be references to
> debian-cd in the boot floppies documentation, and of course the
> debian-cd web site. Would someone check if all are mostly up to date wrt
> woody stuff ?

The README.txt  for woody does not mention 2.2.xx kernels, although 
it still says that one is installing version 2.2 (potato) [humm]  


>
> Apart from that, I'd like to hear from debian-boot if there is any
> restrictions of use for the bf2.4 flavor ?
>

ditto

> And last, woody ought to be 2.2 based and not 2.4 based ... but since I
> also find it lame to use 2.2.x by default nowadays ...
>

I disagree,  2.4.x kernels have been out for over 2 years.we should
not release a "new" version of Debian with such an outdated kernel !
[appologies in advance to the boot-floppy group for all their hard work]

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Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-04 Thread David Kimdon

Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 07:17:58AM -0800 wrote:
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> Hi,
> - -- 
> Question:
> 
> Would there be any objections to setting the default
> boot kernel on woody CD#1 to the bf2.4 flavor ??? 
> 

Yes, the bf2.4 kernel is described in the woody release notes as "an
experimental flavor".  The default kernel for woody on i386 is 2.2.
Putting an experimental non-default kernel on the first CD is probably
not a good idea.

However, debian-boot doesn't decide what the default kernel is on
i386 (who does?).   If someone wants to revisit the question of what
the default kernel should be perhaps such a discussion is appropriate
on debian-devel.  In any case, I doubt such a change so close to
release is possible.

-David


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