Re: debian-cd 2.2.13 and woody.
On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, Chris Lawrence wrote: > That's a bit of a head-scratcher, as I had no trouble getting all of > games and junior on CD 1. Granted, I was using 700MB as my blank > size, rather than 650MB. > > Do you have including of suggestions disabled? Also, is basedebs.tar > being stuck (needlessly) on your CD #1? I am rather unhappy about using 700MB media as many people use old hardware for their first installation. No basedebs.tar, but multiboot. I took a look at list2cds and discovered a YAUO (yet another undocumented option) NORECOMMENDS. Is this what you meant? IMO this is a rather violent option. Should list2cds be hacked to include a NOSUGGESTS option? Anyway I will try a YAB (yet another build) with the NORECOMMEDS enabled. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux & GNU/Hurd CDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PowerPC Debian CD's do not boot on my b&w G3 but Suse 7.0 does
Sorry for the cross post but I'm not quiet sure where to address this
subject. Please reply only in "debian-powerpc".
As I said before none of the powerpc Debian Potato CD's nor a recent
Debian network CD (I don't remember from where) and neither the woody CD
from "trasno.net" boots on my blue&white G3 PowerMac. This is strange
since there shouldn't be a problem. Finally I got a CD set of Suse 7.0
powerpc and it nicely boots, showing the yaboot prompt and else. What's
wrong with Debian CD's? Or what's the difference between Debian and
Suse?
When I want to start my Mac with a Debian CD (pressing the "C" key) the
LED of the cd-drive flickers a few times and after a while the display
is switched from a light gray to white. Nothing is ever written
(visible) on the display. After a while the MacOS starts from the
harddisk. There is never a yaboot prompt visible so I guess it isn't
found on the CD and started.
How could this problem be solved? What can I do to see what's going on?
Is there a way to start yaboot from an OF prompt? Or can I inspect the
CD from an OF prompt?
I've heard (without confirmation) that the early b&w G3 might have a
problem with booting from a CD but at least Suse has found a way.
O. Wyss
PS. I've twice checked if the CD's I use correctly boot on other
machines (i.e. on an Imac).
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Re: remove ftp.eecs.umich.edu from debian-cd mirror list
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:20:05PM -0500, Steve Hsieh wrote: > Due to budgetary constraints, we are unfortunately no longer able to > be a debian-cd mirror. Please remove ftp.eecs.umich.edu from your > list of sites that mirror the debian-cd images. OK. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | CS student at the Technische | GnuPG key: | \/¯| http://atterer.net | Universität München, Germany | 0x888354F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
raw-image not booting
Hi, i’ve downloaded woody-ppc images and burnt them with nero5.5 under winXP, but it won’t boot. How to burn the raw-image under windows??? Thanks, Titus
cvs commit to debian-cd/debian by hertzog
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Re: debian-cd 2.2.13 and woody.
[Philip Charles] > If I get time I will work out how much space the packages for each task > takes. I've made such script already. It is not perfect, but it give a number close to the real value. It currently calculates the disk space used when installing a task, but it should be easy to modify it to use the package size instead. It is available from http://developer.skolelinux.no/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/skolelinux/src/task-skolelinux/tools/pkgdisksize>. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: debian-cd 2.2.13 and woody.
On Mar 16, Philip Charles wrote: > On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, Chris Lawrence wrote: > > > That's a bit of a head-scratcher, as I had no trouble getting all of > > games and junior on CD 1. Granted, I was using 700MB as my blank > > size, rather than 650MB. > > > > Do you have including of suggestions disabled? Also, is basedebs.tar > > being stuck (needlessly) on your CD #1? > > I am rather unhappy about using 700MB media as many people use old > hardware for their first installation. No basedebs.tar, but multiboot. True, it's probably best that the official CDs fit on 650MB media. Especially since CD-RW media doesn't seem as available in the 700MB size. > I took a look at list2cds and discovered a YAUO (yet another undocumented > option) NORECOMMENDS. Is this what you meant? IMO this is a rather > violent option. Should list2cds be hacked to include a NOSUGGESTS option? Probably; at least, that's what I did in my rewritten script (list2cds-cram; unfortunately, it's not a drop-in replacement, which is why I haven't stuck it in CVS). I usually build with just depends and recommends honored, though I've been experimenting with code to avoid recursive suggestion inclusion (suggested packages don't need to pull in THEIR suggestions too, otherwise you get a really dense graph really quickly... debconf will pull in half of GNOME if you let the suggestions get away from you). I also hacked in code to allow treating doc packages that are suggested or recommended as dependencies for purposes of building the CD. > Anyway I will try a YAB (yet another build) with the NORECOMMEDS enabled. That should free up a TON of space. I probably should tar up my hacks as inserted atop debian-cd CVS; at the moment, they just sort of sit in a directory on the lordsutch.com website. (http://www.lordsutch.com/cds/debian-cd/hacks.html for details.) Chris -- Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.lordsutch.com/chris/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-cd 2.2.13 and woody.
On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, Chris Lawrence wrote: > > True, it's probably best that the official CDs fit on 650MB media. > Especially since CD-RW media doesn't seem as available in the 700MB size. *** > Probably; at least, that's what I did in my rewritten script > (list2cds-cram; unfortunately, it's not a drop-in replacement, which > is why I haven't stuck it in CVS). I usually build with just depends > and recommends honored, though I've been experimenting with code to > avoid recursive suggestion inclusion (suggested packages don't need to > pull in THEIR suggestions too, otherwise you get a really dense graph > really quickly... debconf will pull in half of GNOME if you let the > suggestions get away from you). I also hacked in code to allow > treating doc packages that are suggested or recommended as > dependencies for purposes of building the CD. > > > Anyway I will try a YAB (yet another build) with the NORECOMMEDS enabled. > > That should free up a TON of space. Saved some, but not as much as expected. What was the big space saver was removing #include #include #include #include This dropped the size of the minimal first CD from 580 MB to 343MB, freeing up 237MB. No wonder your 700MB images made a difference. > I probably should tar up my hacks as inserted atop debian-cd CVS; at > the moment, they just sort of sit in a directory on the lordsutch.com > website. (http://www.lordsutch.com/cds/debian-cd/hacks.html for > details.) At the moment I am finding the amount of space each task takes on a CD. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux & GNU/Hurd CDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-cd 2.2.13 and woody.
On 16 Mar 2002, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Philip Charles] > > If I get time I will work out how much space the packages for each task > > takes. > > I've made such script already. It is not perfect, but it give a > number close to the real value. It currently calculates the disk > space used when installing a task, but it should be easy to modify it > to use the package size instead. > > It is available from > >http://developer.skolelinux.no/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/skolelinux/src/task-skolelinux/tools/pkgdisksize>. Thanks, but I have already started. I discovered that there were nasty complications in the form of meta packages, particulaly in Task: junior, and other packages are dragged onto the CDs because of dependencies. So I have decided to make life easy for myself and I am building CD file-trees which only have one task on them. I will post the results in an hour or so. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux & GNU/Hurd CDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Task sizes on disc
A separate CD file tree was built was build for each task. The CD base files were also included. Please keep in mind the sizes are for each task in isolation. In the case of junior a complete x-window system was probably included because of dependencies. basic-desktop47520 KB c-dev 110105 chinese-s 152043 chinese-t 151822 cyrillic 82418 database-server 76574 desktop 222480 dialup 71601 dns-server 63262 file-server 20045 fortran-dev 15050 french 51487 games25478 german 26658 japanese158653 junior 283129 korean 93336 laptop 384 mail-server 96973 news-server 2507 polish 50860 print-server 27560 python-dev 26778 russian 47143 science 99829 spanish 9708 tcltk-dev10775 tex 106112 unix-server 28773 web-server3863 I hope this is helpful. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux & GNU/Hurd CDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
