cvs commit to debian-cd/tools/boot/woody by jwest

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Repository: debian-cd/tools/boot/woody
who:jwest
time:   Sat Sep 29 17:32:43 PDT 2001


Log Message:

added boot blocks for udma100-ext3  to disk 4 and reiserfs to disk 5

Files:

changed:boot-i386


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cvs commit to debian-cd/debian by jwest

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Repository: debian-cd/debian
who:jwest
time:   Sat Sep 29 17:37:19 PDT 2001


Log Message:

updated changelog

Files:

changed:changelog


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I created yet another woody coaster

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,

 I created new boot-floppies. I created a custom CD. I burned
 CD. tried an test install. Tihngs were going fine -- installing base
 system. And then it all stopped -- could not install nano

Where is the list of files that is in the base system kept?
 Shouldn't the debian-cd check check and see that the base system
 files are indeed on the first CD?

Oh, this is the latest CVS versions (as of last night) of both
 boot-floppy and debian-cd.

manoj
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Re: I created yet another woody coaster

[Ethan Benson]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 10:14:45PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>I created new boot-floppies. I created a custom CD. I burned
>  CD. tried an test install. Tihngs were going fine -- installing base
>  system. And then it all stopped -- could not install nano
> 
>   Where is the list of files that is in the base system kept?

/usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/woody

>  Shouldn't the debian-cd check check and see that the base system
>  files are indeed on the first CD?

probably so, though most everything in the base system should be at
least priority standard, but preferably important or required.

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Re: I created yet another woody coaster

[Jim Westveer]

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On Saturday 29 September 2001 20:14, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
>
>I created new boot-floppies. I created a custom CD. I burned
>  CD. tried an test install. Tihngs were going fine -- installing base
>  system. And then it all stopped -- could not install nano
>
>   Where is the list of files that is in the base system kept?

/usr/share/debian-cd/tasks/base-woody

>  Shouldn't the debian-cd check check and see that the base system
>  files are indeed on the first CD?

See the comments in the same file.  nano is included as a 'base' package.


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Re: I created yet another woody coaster

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,

Thanks to ah and doogie, I now have a recipe for people to
  avoid creating coasters. Simply use debbootstrap to get the list of
  base packages and ensure they exist in your local mirror.

manoj

__> apt-get --download-only install $(/usr/sbin/debootstrap --print-debs \
--arch i386 woody)
__> apt-move update
__> apt-ftparchive generate /etc/apt/archive.conf >& /var/log/archive.log 
__> cd /root/release; make 
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[Brendan Dowling]

I have a machine that I would like to install debian on, the machine does
not have a floppy drive and I don't have
a working floppy drive that I can loan to the machine.

Is there a minimal (10MB or less) bootable CD-ROM image that I can download
which does the equivalent of the
floppy images?  I really don't want to have to buy a floppy drive or
download the 650MB images.


Thanks,

Brendan Dowling


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Re: Bug#113794: Woody new install, problems with tasksel

[Raphael Hertzog]

Le Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 09:54:06AM +0200, Martin Schulze écrivait:
> > debian-cd does nothing else than using dpkg-scanpackages ... so this one
> > needs to be fixed, not debian-cd.
> > 
[...]
> > What is the "Task: override" ? I know that packages have a Task: field but
> > is there an override file like for sections ?
> 
> I have about no clue what you're talking about.

I made the assumption that dpkg-scanpackages was removing some fields (the
Task: field in that case) while generating Packages file since all
Packages files generated by debian-cd had not even a single "Task:" field.

However, after investigation, it looks like that no .deb does have
a Task field (very strange, I was quite sure some people added such
fields) :
rhertzog@p200:~$ find /mirror/debian/pool/ -name '*.deb' | (while read i; do if dpkg 
-I $i control | grep -q -i Task: ; then echo $i; fi; done)
rhertzog@p200:~$ 

So those fields are not coming from the packages themselves but from an
"override" file that is not distributed within the mirrors.

The only solution I have is to extract them from the Packages files in
the mirror and reinject them manually in the files generated by
dpkg-scanpackages. And if I do that, there's nothing to change on
dpkg-scanpackages...

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Re: Bug#113794: Woody new install, problems with tasksel

[James Troup]

Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> debian-cd does nothing else than using dpkg-scanpackages ...

And there's the bug.  Use apt-ftparchive.

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Re: Bug#113794: Woody new install, problems with tasksel

[Raphael Hertzog]

Le Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 04:47:25PM +0100, James Troup écrivait:
> > debian-cd does nothing else than using dpkg-scanpackages ...
> 
> And there's the bug.  Use apt-ftparchive.

Would you be so kind and explain me why ? I can use apt-ftparchive but it
will change absolutely nothing if it doesn't use this "task override"
that seems to not be mirrored ...

And I use dpkg-scanpackage for the support of this old dpkg-multicd
dselect method ... 

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Re: Bug#113794: Woody new install, problems with tasksel

[James Troup]

Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Le Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 04:47:25PM +0100, James Troup crivait:
> > > debian-cd does nothing else than using dpkg-scanpackages ...
> >
> > And there's the bug.  Use apt-ftparchive.
>
> Would you be so kind and explain me why ?

Because a) it doesn't suck, unlike dpkg-scanpackages and b) because it
supports things like the new task overrides out of the box ?

> I can use apt-ftparchive but it will change absolutely nothing if it
> doesn't use this "task override" that seems to not be mirrored ...

That's obviously a bug on our (f.d.o) part, but it's not as if I can
fix it right now, is it ?

> And I use dpkg-scanpackage for the support of this old dpkg-multicd
> dselect method ...

Do we really want to support that nowadays ?

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Re: Bug#113794: Woody new install, problems with tasksel

[Raphael Hertzog]

Le Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 05:10:53PM +0100, James Troup écrivait:
> > And I use dpkg-scanpackage for the support of this old dpkg-multicd
> > dselect method ...
> 
> Do we really want to support that nowadays ?

What do other people think about that ?

I'd also be happy if we could drop that because :
- it takes place with the Packages.cd files
- it's a complicated hack to generate those Packages.cd (each file list
  all the packages available on all the previous CD)

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cvs commit to debian-cd/tools/boot/woody by falk

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Repository: debian-cd/tools/boot/woody
who:falk
time:   Sat Sep 29 16:21:13 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Adapt to changes with woody boot floppies. Largely untested, but the
previous version didn't work at all, so it can only have improved :)


Files:

changed:boot-alpha

added:  post-boot-alpha


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Re: Bug#113794: Woody new install, problems with tasksel

[Martin Schulze]

Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > Actually debian-cd probably makes its own packages files and doesn't include
> > > the Task: overrides at all.
> > 
> > That's badly broken then.
> > 
> > Debian-cd people: Until debian-cd is fixed to propigate Task: fields out
> > from the arch's Packages files into the files it makes, tasksel will
> > not be usable from the CD's it produces. I consider this a release
> > critical bug..
> 
> debian-cd does nothing else than using dpkg-scanpackages ... so this one
> needs to be fixed, not debian-cd.
> 
> BTW, debian-cd uses dpkg-scanpackages from dpkg-multicd ... ie there's 2
> versions of dpkg-scanpackages that needs to be fixed. I'm ccing both
> maintainers.
> 
> What is the "Task: override" ? I know that packages have a Task: field but
> is there an override file like for sections ?

I have about no clue what you're talking about.

If you believe that dpkg-scanpackages from dpkg-multicd is broken,
please try out
http://people.debian.org/~joey/NMU/dpkg-multicd_0.17.1_all.deb which
is synced against dpkg-scanpackages from dpkg-dev 1.9.17.  I haven't
noticed any change that would affect ``Task:'' headers, but...

If you still think there is a problem, please provide *INFORMATION*
about the problem so one can actually fix it.  At the moment I don't
know what you want.

Regards,

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Re: Bug#113794: Woody new install, problems with tasksel

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> What do other people think about that ?

Ditch it.

Wichert.

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Re: Bug#113794: Woody new install, problems with tasksel

[Steve McIntyre]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 08:56:52PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>Previously Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>> What do other people think about that ?
>
>Ditch it.

Seconded. We supported it for slink and potato, but for the later
potato releases it wasn't perfect anyway...

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