Re: woody ISOs for non-i386?
Hi! > Any chance of someone generating ISO images for non-i386 architectures for > woody on a semi-regular basis? (bi-weekly maybe?) [0] I may be able to do this, even though the images should be on two diferent machines at the university of La Corun~a, I have to ask for permision, but first I'm trying to generate the images, I have so far been succesfull for sparc, arm, powerpc and of course i386. For sparc I'm using potato scripts for making the cds bootable, as suggested by Ben Collins (thanks Ben), as the ones for woody don't work. Right now I'm having trouble with the scripts for making m68k cds bootable and I'm trying to solv that. Also, there are no binary BF for alpha on woody now, and that's why I haven't build this one. I'll tell you if I get permision to use this machines and our bandwith at the university. Machines would have at least rsync and http. Regards... -- Manty/BestiaTester -> http://manty.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody ISOs for non-i386?
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 07:57:05AM +1000, jason andrade wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Richard Atterer wrote: > > FWIW, it /might/ be possible that jigdo reaches a usable state by > > the time woody is released at Christmas[0]. IMHO, this would solve > > our CD mirror problems. > > as a mirror-admin[0] `end user' does this mean jigdo replaces the > PIK-2 which i remember reading might have problems generating woody > images ? It will be able to fully replace the PIK. However, its main goals are - making special CD image mirrors completely unnecessary - /any/ Debian mirror can be used to download the images - getting rid of rsync. rsync is a cool program and works well for syncing images between mirrors, but it's not good to use for end users because it puts such a high load on the server. (Also, corporate firewalls often block the port.) > i've downloaded jigdo.. i'm contemplating whether i can use it to > generate weekly debian woody and/or sid iso images at least for i386 > and maybe for some of the other architectures. jigdo by itself cannot generate the image. It's more like a post-processing stage: The finished image is fed to jigdo which generates the much smaller ".template" file, in which .deb package contents are replaced with references to the package (via a checksum). Using the template and your local Debian mirror, you can recreate the image. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | CS student at the Technische | GnuPG key: | \/¯| http://atterer.net | Universität München, Germany | 0x888354F7 ¯ ´` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody ISOs for non-i386?
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 11:25:04AM +0200, Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote: > > Right now I'm having trouble with the scripts for making m68k cds bootable > and I'm trying to solv that. m68k CDs bootable? For what? AFAIK m68k machines need to bootstrap from the native OS. Maybe VME could use it, did you check with out vme hackers if that is really neded? We never had bootable m68k CDs, did we? Christian -- http://people.debian.org/~cts/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody ISOs for non-i386?
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 08:28:33AM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote: >On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 11:25:04AM +0200, Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote: >> >> Right now I'm having trouble with the scripts for making m68k cds bootable >> and I'm trying to solv that. >m68k CDs bootable? For what? AFAIK m68k machines need to bootstrap from the >native OS. Maybe VME could use it, did you check with out vme hackers if >that is really neded? We never had bootable m68k CDs, did we? You're exactly correct - some of the VME machines are bootable for m68k, but nothing else. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rpg-soc.ucam.org/curs/>CURS home page "Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, +-- "Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..." |Finger for PGP key -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody ISOs for non-i386?
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Richard Atterer wrote: > - making special CD image mirrors completely unnecessary - /any/ > Debian mirror can be used to download the images interesting. > - getting rid of rsync. rsync is a cool program and works well for > syncing images between mirrors, but it's not good to use for end > users because it puts such a high load on the server. (Also, > corporate firewalls often block the port.) i would agree to a certain point - rsync is a great tool for intermirror stuff.. but it doesn't scale at all well - i believe it is on the todo list for rsync 3 if/when it gets developed. > jigdo by itself cannot generate the image. It's more like a > post-processing stage: The finished image is fed to jigdo which > generates the much smaller ".template" file, in which .deb package > contents are replaced with references to the package (via a checksum). > Using the template and your local Debian mirror, you can recreate the > image. so the end user runs jigdo and points it at their closest mirror and it builds the image for em - much like PIK ? -jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody ISOs for non-i386?
> m68k CDs bootable? For what? AFAIK m68k machines need to bootstrap from the > native OS. Maybe VME could use it, did you check with out vme hackers if > that is really neded? We never had bootable m68k CDs, did we? Well, don't know if they are bootable or not, but debian-cd has the boot-m68k scripts and they are run, it was a little error caused by the way I mirror things, it is solved already. Running make bin-official_images on debian-cd makes bootable also, and the scripts for m68k exist, so... I suppose they are bootable, but it would be good if some of the m68k guys could comment on this. Regards... -- Manty/BestiaTester -> http://manty.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody ISOs for non-i386?
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 04:30:32PM +0200, Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote: > > m68k CDs bootable? For what? AFAIK m68k machines need to bootstrap from the > > native OS. Maybe VME could use it, did you check with out vme hackers if > > that is really neded? We never had bootable m68k CDs, did we? > > Well, don't know if they are bootable or not, but debian-cd has the > boot-m68k scripts and they are run, it was a little error caused by the way > I mirror things, it is solved already. What happens in that script? I guess it puts some kind of rescue image into the first blocks, like i386 images are made bootable? I am pretty sure Amiga and Ataris can not boot from CD (there is amigalilo, but its not packaged and it doenst help for CDs). Not sure about Macs, but you still need MacOS to start linux. Some VMEs might boot from CD, no idea if that was ever tested. > Running make bin-official_images on debian-cd makes bootable also, and the > scripts for m68k exist, so... I suppose they are bootable, but it would be > good if some of the m68k guys could comment on this. What more do you want to hear? (Cc to the list with the m68k guys). Christian -- http://people.debian.org/~cts/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody ISOs for non-i386?
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 10:15:44AM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote: >On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 04:30:32PM +0200, Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote: >> >> Well, don't know if they are bootable or not, but debian-cd has the >> boot-m68k scripts and they are run, it was a little error caused by the way >> I mirror things, it is solved already. > >What happens in that script? I guess it puts some kind of rescue image into >the first blocks, like i386 images are made bootable? I am pretty sure >Amiga and Ataris can not boot from CD (there is amigalilo, but its not >packaged and it doenst help for CDs). Not sure about Macs, but you still >need MacOS to start linux. Some VMEs might boot from CD, no idea if that was >ever tested. Nick Holgate added the logic to make the VME machines boot, using Intel-style El Torito. That's part of what boot-m68k does. It also sets up the mkisofs options for CD1 so that Macs should be able to read the CD OK, and similar tweaks for each machine type. The other m68k machine types still need you to boot into the host OS and then run the installer off the CD. What was the original question again? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use Debian GNU/Linux - upgrade your Windoze box today! http://www.debian.org/ "Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, +-- "Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..." |Finger for PGP key -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody ISOs for non-i386?
> Some VMEs might boot from CD, no idea if that was > ever tested. The BVME6000 will boot from CD, that's why we build the 2.88 combined rescue and root image for the BVME6000 it's the CD El Torito bootfile. The last time I checked if it was working was with the 2.2r2 CD image. Unfortunately this may be the last image I will be able to check, I've just been made redundant from BVM so my net access is down to a 56K modem, and now have a little less enthusiasm for supporting the BVME6000. However as my BVME6000 is the fastest 68K machine I have I will keep the port going as long as I have time in my new job (assuming I find one that is, any offers?). Nick --- Contact: Nick Holgate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ #117649207 Home Page : http://people.debian.org/~holgate GPG key: http://people.debian.org/~holgate/pubkey.txt Fingerprint: 9DCA EDEA D5C5 57DA 23F3 1A2B 2273 5645 FD9C 18AF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
