RE: Wrong number of packages?

2001-02-19 Thread Krap, Arjen

Did you consider the symbolic links pointing to the packages in the
"binary-all" hiearchy?

The first find looks explicity only for regular files (-type f), while the
second does not.

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From: Santiago Garcia Mantinan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: maandag 19 februari 2001 2:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Wrong number of packages?


Hi!

Today I was doing a set of sid i386 cds and I found this:

The debian cd scripts said:

Statistics :
Number of packages : 6387
Number of excluded : 0 of 6387

After finishing copying the files to the cds and without any cp error or any
other error I run on the directory I use for building the images:

manty@pule:/otro/tmp/sid-i386$ find . -type f -name '*.deb'|wc -l
   5255

And then I run on the debian mirror:

manty@pule:/ceu/debian/dists/sid$ find . -name binary-i386 -exec grep
'^Package: ' {}/Packages \;|wc -l
   6267

So, wich if the numbers is correct?

Can anybody explain whi only 5255 packages go into the cds if there are over
6000?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Rsync and incremental updates on top of Original CDs

2001-02-19 Thread Richard Atterer

On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 08:53:08AM +1000, jason andrade wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, arifi wrote:
> > Once one has the latest 2.2_rev2 Official CD's (let's say I bought
> > them), can rsync be used to incrementally update these w/o drastic
> > network traffic, once 2.2_revX or 2.3 or 3 ... etc become available ?
> 
> yes - you would have to dd the cd images to your hard disk to work with
> (of course)

[snip]
> you will find anywhere from a 30% upto a 60% saving in bandwidth using
> rsync for this.  (at least i did for rev0 -> rev2).  of course if you are
> using the pseudo image kit 2.X, you will get more like 90% savings if
> you have a local full debian mirror available to build the images instead.

Note that I'm currently working on a tool which will allow you to say:
"Here's a CD full of files and an 'image template' (created for a new
CD, also by my tool) - please fetch any new deb's and re-use the other
files from the old CD."

Eventually, I want to write a graphical user interface, but the tool
is useful even now, as an add-on for the current command-line
pseudo-image-kit. Expect a first release in a week or so.

Cheers,

  Richard

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Problem Creating CD from CD Image

2001-02-19 Thread Mikko Santos


Hello,
I tried twice to create a CD from the CD image.  Both times I was
unsuccessful.  The CD's I burned were not bootable, couldn't be browsed
in Windows, nor mounted from Linux.
Below are the steps I took and the errors I got.  I did this in
Windows ME.
Does someone know why I'm experiencing problems?
Thanks,
Hermen


The steps I took:


Downloaded the Pseudo-Image kit


Downloaded binary-i386-1.list from http://www.uk.debian.org/debian-cd/cd-images


>From the DOS prompt I ran the command:

make-pseudo-image binary-i386-1.list ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian


Renamed pseudo-image to binary-i386-1.iso


Ran rsync as follows:

rsync --verbose --progress --stats --block-size=8192 aurolinux.mit.edu::debian-cd/2.2_rev2/i386/binary-i386-1.iso
.


Checked that the sum from the following command matched the results in
http://www.uk.debian.org/debian-cd/cd-images:

md5sum -b binary-i386-1.iso


The sums matched, so I used Adaptec's Easy CD Creator Version 4.02d to
burn the CD

The error I got after I ran rsync:
ERROR: file corruption in binary-i386-1.iso.  File changed
during transfer?
I saw no errors when I ran the make-pseudo-image command.
I tried to run rsync from both aurolinux.mit.edu, saens.debian.org,
and ftp.fifi.org.  I got the same error from all three sites.
I tried to create a CD Image using Easy CD Creator from the CD Images
I rsync'd from aurolinux.mit.edu and ftp.fifi.org.  In both cases
Easy CD Creator said that it successfully created the CD from the CD Image. 
But the CD that was burned was not bootable, nor could I browse it in Windows.
When I tried to mound the CD as root within Linux with the following
command, it complained that there was "no medium found":
mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/hdc /cdrom



Using CDs to seed mirror?

2001-02-19 Thread tod

I've got an official CD-ROM set of Debian 2.2r2 i386. I'd 
like to set up an in-house HTTP mirror to use for 
installations and upgrades, particularly for machines without 
CD-ROM drives.  

I tried copying the contents of the 3 CDs into a directory 
which I made available via HTTP, but when I hit this mirror 
from a machine running version 2.1 with
"apt-get upgrade ; apt-get -s dist-upgrade"
it downloads package files okay but only wants to upgrade 
xntp3.  

Is there a way I can properly set up this HTTP mirror from 
the CDs? My net connection is too slow to mirror the normal 
way.  

Thanks.  


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Re: Using CDs to seed mirror?

2001-02-19 Thread Steve McIntyre

On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 12:30:53PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I've got an official CD-ROM set of Debian 2.2r2 i386. I'd 
>like to set up an in-house HTTP mirror to use for 
>installations and upgrades, particularly for machines without 
>CD-ROM drives.  
>
>I tried copying the contents of the 3 CDs into a directory 
>which I made available via HTTP, but when I hit this mirror 
>from a machine running version 2.1 with
>"apt-get upgrade ; apt-get -s dist-upgrade"
>it downloads package files okay but only wants to upgrade 
>xntp3.  
>
>Is there a way I can properly set up this HTTP mirror from 
>the CDs? My net connection is too slow to mirror the normal 
>way.  

What you're seeing will be caused by the Packages files overwriting
each other. Cat together the Packages files from each CD instead of
just copying...

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Creating a base-only cd image?

2001-02-19 Thread Robert Guthrie

Just a suggestion from someone who doesn't know the first thing about 
building a debian cd image from scratch...

I was wondering if anyone had ever considered creating a cd image 
that contained only enough of the system to apt-get everything else 
(from nfs, ftp, or http) after the initial boot.  It seems that the 
cd image would be extremely small in comparison, so less bandwidth 
would be wasted building pseudo-images of it.  On the user's side of 
things, no more boot floppies needed when they can't copy the base 
system to thier hard-drive, but don't want to spend 5 days creating 
the cd image from behind a 56k connection.

I actually did the latter to get started on debian.  I could have 
just configured the base system, and then slowly built my debian 
system from task packages or just individual ones.  

What do you think?  Wouldn't it be pretty easy to just exclude the 
vast majority of the cd image?  Putting this on one of those 
credit-card cd's would be pretty cool..

"Hey Bob, you said Debian was pretty cool.  Want to help me install 
it sometime?"

"Sure, why not now?" pulls out wallet, "Here, put this in your cd 
drive and reboot."

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Re: Using CDs to seed mirror?

2001-02-19 Thread tod

On 19 Feb 2001, at 17:37, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> What you're seeing will be caused by the Packages files overwriting
> each other. Cat together the Packages files from each CD instead of
> just copying...

Thanks, it worked great. Of course I had to gzip the resultant 
combined Packages files to replace the ones off the CD, since apt-get 
looks for the .gz extensions when fetching from a http: URL 
configured in /etc/apt/sources.list.


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RE: Creating a base-only cd image?

2001-02-19 Thread Brooks R. Robinson

Greetings,
When potato was unstable and the release candidates were being tested,
there were some net install CD images made.  I think I might still have one.
Of course, they are *somewhat* broken.  I recall a discussion in which there
was the promise(?) of having such a beastie once the release was actually
released, but I've seen nothing of it.  Otherwise, the linuxcare bootable
business card can install debian, but it is slink with a 2.0.36(?) kernel.
BTW, I would LOVE to have the net install CD again!!!

Brooks


> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Guthrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:40 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Creating a base-only cd image?
>
>
> Just a suggestion from someone who doesn't know the first thing about
> building a debian cd image from scratch...
>
> I was wondering if anyone had ever considered creating a cd image
> that contained only enough of the system to apt-get everything else
> (from nfs, ftp, or http) after the initial boot.  It seems that the
> cd image would be extremely small in comparison, so less bandwidth
> would be wasted building pseudo-images of it.  On the user's side of
> things, no more boot floppies needed when they can't copy the base
> system to thier hard-drive, but don't want to spend 5 days creating
> the cd image from behind a 56k connection.
>
> I actually did the latter to get started on debian.  I could have
> just configured the base system, and then slowly built my debian
> system from task packages or just individual ones.
>
> What do you think?  Wouldn't it be pretty easy to just exclude the
> vast majority of the cd image?  Putting this on one of those
> credit-card cd's would be pretty cool..
>
> "Hey Bob, you said Debian was pretty cool.  Want to help me install
> it sometime?"
>
> "Sure, why not now?" pulls out wallet, "Here, put this in your cd
> drive and reboot."
>
> --
> Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you
> will hear the voice of Satan?
>
> That's nothing!  If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
>
>
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Re: Wrong number of packages?

2001-02-19 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan

> Did you consider the symbolic links pointing to the packages in the
> "binary-all" hiearchy?

Well, if you look well, that is done on all the cd images, not any directory
in particular, so I'm accounting every single deb file on the cds.

I have realised this afternoon that when I was accounting the packages files
I was not counting the non-US part wich was on the cds. But that only solves
the diference in the grep of the Packages and the number of packages that
debian-cd says that will be installed. It doesn't explain the difference
between 6387 and 5255, wich could be explained in terms of dependencies as
Philip Charles says.

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Pseudo-Image Kit for 2.2_rev2/i386

2001-02-19 Thread kckelly



Have tried to use the Pseudo-Image Kit Ver2.0 to 
get the latest release of Debian.
 
Every binary-i386-1.list file I've found points to 
the "potato" directories, and the make-pseudo-image command says it cannot find 
a lot of files.  The pseudo-image file it creates is only 31 
mb.
 
Is there a current list file for 
2.2_rev2?
 
Also, when using rsync I tried using 
saens.debian.org::debian-cd as the server, but what is the correct path for the 
iso file?
 
Kevin C. Kelly


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Re: Creating a base-only cd image?

2001-02-19 Thread Joey Hess

Robert Guthrie wrote:
> What do you think?  Wouldn't it be pretty easy to just exclude the 
> vast majority of the cd image?  Putting this on one of those 
> credit-card cd's would be pretty cool..
> 
> "Hey Bob, you said Debian was pretty cool.  Want to help me install 
> it sometime?"
> 
> "Sure, why not now?" pulls out wallet, "Here, put this in your cd 
> drive and reboot."

Been there, done that. The linuxcare bootable business card supports
installing debian base (type "debian" at the lilo prompt iirc). 

I belive this has been removed from the most recent verison for some
reason, but old images should be available and maybe it'll come back
eventually.

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