Re: regarding potato images

2001-01-11 Thread paulwade


I looked at El Torito a few years ago in this regard. It allows you to
have a choice of which floppy image gets booted so there is no space
problem. The first problem I saw at that time was a lack of support for
this feature in mkisofs. That might be solved now in mkhybrid, but the
bigger problem I see is that using this feature raises the bios
compatibility requirement quite a bit. I am highly in favor of other
techniques suggested which would initially load grub or similar boot
systems. Note that if debian was a tiny thing El Torito would be useful
because it allows multiple architectures to share a bootable CD. This
might be great if someone wants to put diags and memtest for multiple
arches on a CD that gets bundled with a book or magazine. I don't think it
is needed for the mother of all distros with it's thousands of packages :)

I should probably subscribe myself to debian-boot but I do appreciate
people posting things like this to both the boot and cd lists.

I would say that it won't bother me a bit if lots of packages get pushed
off of CD 1. I would love to be able to include lots of options when
binary CD 1 is booted. Besides the choice of kernels for initial install
purposes we could have options for rescue/repair and hardware
probing/diagnostics. I also was thinking about the timeout that causes a
boot from the hard drive if the user fails to interact. This is nice for
people who accidentally leave a bootable CD in a machine that they wish to
remotely reboot but it is also desirable for certain older machines with
stinky bios code. I have seen a few that do not have any setup option for
disabling CD boot. With these systems if I left an NT CD in the drive I
would get a delay(30 seconds I think) before it booted the hard drive. If
I left a debian CD in I would get the install/rescue bootup whether I was
at the machine or not.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jim Westveer wrote:

> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:19:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jim Westveer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> Robert Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: regarding potato images
> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 01:20:19 -0500
> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> On 11-Jan-2001 Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> > Robert Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> >> Forgive my ignorance, but I just had to de-lurk to ask this probably silly 
> >> question:
> >> Can't you have multiple kernel images on the same cd, chosen via lilo (or 
> >> whatever boot loader is being used) just like when you have mulitple kernel 
> >> versions on you computer?
> > 
> > It is based on the El Torito boot standard -- I don't think this is
> > doable, partly in part due to boot-floppies itself.  But even so, you
> > couldn't fit 4 kernels and the root.bin on a 2.8MB disk iamge.
> > 
> > But I defer the debian-cd folks.  I don't know all that much about it.
> 
> El-Torito (ref: www.phoenix.com/products/specs-cdrom.pdf or others)
> is really just a floppy boot image of either 1.44M or 2.88M.  
> That is why the boot-disk images are EXACTLY 1.44M or 2.88M in
> size, so they can just be copied to the boot1 area, and
> used "as-is" to make a CD/ROM boot.
> 
> You may want to look at the debian-cd boot code from the
> CVS sources ( in tools/boot/potato/boot-i386 ) and see
> if you can hack it to support multiple images on the same CD.
> 
> Ciao,
> 
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Platform popularity

2001-01-11 Thread Brooks R. Robinson

Greetings,
I am considering selling Official CD's on the internet.  At this point, I
don't know if I have enough hard drive to offer all the platforms (maybe
after I earn a few dollars I can invest in more hard drive space).  So
beyond, i386 and the source .iso files, what is the popularity of the other
platforms?  Does anyone have any kind of empirical data that would suggest
the m68k is more popular than sparc, etc.  Inquiring minds want to know!

Thanks,

Brooks


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Re: Platform popularity

2001-01-11 Thread Steve McIntyre

On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 08:07:35AM -0600, Brooks R. Robinson wrote:
>   I am considering selling Official CD's on the internet.  At this point, I
>don't know if I have enough hard drive to offer all the platforms (maybe
>after I earn a few dollars I can invest in more hard drive space).  So
>beyond, i386 and the source .iso files, what is the popularity of the other
>platforms?  Does anyone have any kind of empirical data that would suggest
>the m68k is more popular than sparc, etc.  Inquiring minds want to know!

Grepping my current orders list gives the following numbers of
sets:

sledge:~$ for arch in alpha arm i386 m68k powerpc sparc src; do echo -n "$arch" ; grep 
$arch orders.xsp | wc -l; done
alpha  3
arm  9
i386140
m68k 12
powerpc  3
sparc 14
src 34

HTH!

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Custom Kernel Documentation

2001-01-11 Thread shamilton

Does anyone know of anyplace that I can find documentation on adding a
custom kernel to the Debain CD? I need to get an install cd that will boot
the DAC960 driver, so I can install onto drives on that controller. Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Sam Hamilton


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Instantly Increase Web Traffic with Links

2001-01-11 Thread Chelsea Lewis


Attn: Webmaster

Hi, my name is Chelsea Lewis and I am a web-marketing person at 1st-Memory Warehouse ( 
http://www.1st-memorywhse.com/ )  in Redmond, WA. I recently visited your website, 
cdimage.debian.org, and was pleased with its quality and the fact that our sites have 
compatible content.  I was hoping that we could exchange url links. Our company's 
website does get a fair amount of traffic, but we are always looking for more. I have 
already added your site to our categorized links page , 
http://www.1st-memorywhse.com/links/themeindex.html , under the Linux category. Please 
go to the site and make sure that your site's description and other information is 
suitable. If there are any problems, please email me. 

As one of our Link Partners, I personally placed your site under its own category, so 
it is easy to find, and included a bold title, description and url. The number of hits 
both we and our partners receive increases every day, and I would love for your site 
to be a part of this directory. Reciprocal links are known to generate more traffic 
than even search engines can create. Even if you see yourself as one of our 
competitors, I encourage you to link with our site. Our goal is to make sure our web 
community is able to find other similar, quality sites like your's. Their options as 
consumers are expanded because they do not have to depend only on search engines. 

I would greatly appreciate a reciprocal link on your site. I have some helpful 
information about adding a link on your website to my website at 
http://www.1st-memorywhse.com/links/themeindex.html .  Thank you for taking the time 
to trade links. I am always pleased to represent various companies on our website, 
which have a lot to offer the web community. Thank You! 

Cordially Yours:

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Re: cdimage.debian.org mirror

2001-01-11 Thread J.A. Bezemer


On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Antti wrote:

> We would be interested  in becoming an official  (or, at least
> approved) mirror-site of your site.  Our FTP-server is located
> in New York  and it is  hosted  at Stealth Communications, Inc
> aka stealth.net.  We are  currently mirroring your site daily,
> and the location  of the mirror in our site is:
> ftp://ftp.stealth.net/pub/mirrors/cdimage.debian.org

Thanks for the service! I've added it to our mirror list.

> The server  currently under  DNS  as  ftp.stealth.net  will be
> moved under another name and it is not related to this project.

Please do inform us when anything has changed, so that we can update
our mirror list.

> Some keypoints for mirrors might be speed, stability, security
> and knowledgeable staff. I believe we might stand a chance --

Actually, the only keypoint here is "being a mirror" -- it's already hard
enough to get mirrors for some 16 GB of data ;-)

> We  are  currently  mirroring  your site with  debcdmirror and
> doing  rsync from rsync.kernel.org.  Is it  possible to obtain
> password  to master site  (cdimage.debian.org) so  we could do
> mirroring from there?

Don't tell this any further, but the rsync service on cdimage.debian.org
does not require a password at this moment. That's only needed to reduce
unwanted traffic when an all-new Debian version is released, which I don't
expect until the 3rd quarter of this year (and probably even later).
You can just point your mirror at cdimage.d.o; the best time to ask
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for a password is when you get an access error meaning that
one is needed (he's heavily occupied at all other times ;-)


Regards,
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Linux

2001-01-11 Thread Maikeru85
I am looking for the LINUX operating system to download and later burn to a 
CD. To be perfectly honest, I have no idea what I am doing. I have a CD 
burner and I am running windows me. I cant tell if your web site has it 
available for download or not because I am not that smart when it comes to 
computers. if you could point me in the right direction I would greatly 
appreciate it.

  thank you
 Chad Finkenbiner


More Debian CD mirrors!

2001-01-11 Thread Ted Cabeen

I was going to email about this last week, but I had some problems with the
backups, so I forgot.  Anyways, we're running a full debian-cd mirror
alongside the debian general and incoming mirrors at debian.uchicago.edu in
/debian-cd/stable/official. Access is available via ftp, web, and rsync.  We
currently mirror the official cds off of cdimage.debian.org and build a full
set of unofficial cds every night using debian-cd.  (This is what the backup
system fubared)  I'm working on getting debian-cd to build nightly sid and
woody images, but I've been having some problems with debian-cd's looking for
the boot images in potato since woody and sid don't have any.  Regardless,
it's a good fast server, and should probably be in the main list.  :)  Enjoy!

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Re: cdimage.debian.org mirror

2001-01-11 Thread Antti

Thanks,

for adding us to one of the official mirrors. I wonder could we 
have our entry to look something like this:
USA, New York (http://www.stealth.net/">Stealth
Communications, Inc.)

Or just simply: 

USA, New York (Stealth Communications, Inc.)

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, J.A. Bezemer wrote:

> 
> On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Antti wrote:
> 
> > We would be interested  in becoming an official  (or, at least
> > approved) mirror-site of your site.  Our FTP-server is located
> > in New York  and it is  hosted  at Stealth Communications, Inc
> > aka stealth.net.  We are  currently mirroring your site daily,
> > and the location  of the mirror in our site is:
> > ftp://ftp.stealth.net/pub/mirrors/cdimage.debian.org
> 
> Thanks for the service! I've added it to our mirror list.
> 
> > The server  currently under  DNS  as  ftp.stealth.net  will be
> > moved under another name and it is not related to this project.
> 
> Please do inform us when anything has changed, so that we can update
> our mirror list.
> 
> > Some keypoints for mirrors might be speed, stability, security
> > and knowledgeable staff. I believe we might stand a chance --
> 
> Actually, the only keypoint here is "being a mirror" -- it's already hard
> enough to get mirrors for some 16 GB of data ;-)
> 
> 
> Regards,
>   Anne Bezemer
> 
> 


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Re: Linux

2001-01-11 Thread Angus Edison

Please try to use http://www.linuxiso.org


>FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">I am looking for the LINUX operating system to 
>download and later burn to a 
>CD. To be perfectly honest, I have no idea what I am doing. I have a CD 
>burner and I am running windows me. I cant tell if your web site has it 
>available for download or not because I am not that smart when it comes to 
>computers. if you could point me in the right direction I would greatly 
>appreciate it.
>
>  thank you
> Chad 
>Finkenbiner
>

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Re: regarding potato images

2001-01-11 Thread J.A. Bezemer


On 7 Jan 2001, Adam Di Carlo wrote:

> It would help if someone could inform me of what kernels are on what
> CDs for other arches, if there are any, on other arches.

According to debian-cd/tools/boot/potato/boot-*:

Alpha: only CD 1 is bootable, with something that seems like a multi-boot
thing for a few sub-arches

Arm: not bootable at all since supported computers don't have CD drives.

M68k: only CD 1 bootable, AFAICS only for BVME4000/6000 systems
(I don't know if other m68k machines have bootable CD drives at all)

Powerpc: only CD 1 bootable, seems like a multi-arch boot for several
sub-arches.

Sparc: only CD 1 bootable


Regards,
  Anne Bezemer


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