Partman
Hi! I know we are really really close to release time, but I'm worried about partman usability. We talked about some of these issues during debconf4, but I've seen that partman is still the same. Is there still a chance to change some part of this? I have some ideas on how to make it a little better, I could write a report about them, if you tell me there's till time for change. If there isn't, PLEASE do include a "use cfdisk instead of partman" option in some place. -- Bezitos, Maggie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partman
> See last IRC meeting log. Anton mentioned he will work on
> this. Manpower is missing aroung this, I'm afraid
Ok, here is my report, for what it's worth. I hope it can help making a
difference.
* Main screen.
-= This is about moving the things on the screen. A few string changes. =-
The problem with partman main screen is that everything is an option,
and it becomes really confusing to the user. A simple change, like
putting the hard-drive information at the top and joining all the other
options at the bottom may be a bit more clarifying.
Then, I think that a GREAT difference could be made by transforming the "Help"
and "Finish" options into buttons at the bottom of the screen. In this
way, we could have two less lines on the selection screen, and the help
and finish options would always be visible.
Help and Finish being buttons rather than options is a more intuitive
approach (from my point of view, and some others I've collected as well)
and more user-friendly. Please think about it. I know it's different
from the rest of d-i, but it can make a real difference to the user.
* Formatting screen
-= This implies changing strings. But it's quite important!! =-
The formatting screen is the one that I've found out to be more
confusing. Specially when people that's new to partman try to find
where the swap is.
We've discussed this with some friends, and we came to the agreement
that if in "Usage method" it said "Create a File System" or maybe just
"File System" instead of "Format the partition" it would make the user
realize that that's the option he wants to change to use swap.
I think this is not enough, though. I think we need some sort of "tips"
to allow people to realize where the things are, but this is much more
difficult, I know.
-= This is a code fix. No string change needed =-
It's kind of dumb to show the "Bootable flag" for certain partition
types (like swap), I think it would be better to not show it when it
makes no difference, so as not to confuse the user unnecesarily.
* LVM and RAID
-= This is a code fix. No string changes =-
LVM and RAID options should NOT appear on the screen until the RAID or
LVM partitions have been selected. These are two options, that eat up
screen space, when the user might not be interested at all in them, no
matter debconf level.
* More recipes
-= This implies adding some strings, please do think about it though =-
partman-auto is awesome. I think it would be really nice to have some more
recipes, so that the least amount of people has to use partman to
actually set the values.
The one I already submitted is a "Server" recipe, that exchanges the
/var and /home sizes from the "Multi-User" recipe (or something like
that), I think that having this one would make a lot of people's lives
easier.
I can't think of any other sensible general recipe right now, but if
there are, I'd certainly say it's a good idea. Remember: the least
people that use partman, the more people that will love debian installer
:)
> Also, some usability issues may require too much changes,
> unfortunately.
I've tried to keep the changes to the minimum possible. But I think
that we *have* to address this before release.
--
Besitos, {o_
Marga. (')_
Re: Partman
Hola Anton Zinoviev! > > Then, I think that a GREAT difference could be made by transforming the "Help" > > and "Finish" options into buttons at the bottom of the screen. > This is something that cdebconf doesn't allow (for now). Uhm? I'm talking about a button like the "Back" button. Are you saying that cdebconf allows a "Back" button, but not "Help" or "Finish" buttons? > Today I uploaded a new version of partman that does things in this way: > === for swap space: > Use as: swap area > . > === for partition with file system: > Use as: ext3 journalling file system > Format: yes > . > === for LVM, RAID, PALO, NewWorld, etc: > Use as: physical volume of LVM > . Sounds great to me! Can't wait till I see it!! > Although it would be quiet exotic I think it is possible to install a > boot loader in the first sector of a swap partition. So the bootable > flag makes sence even for swap. :-) > > What about adding an item "Preferences" in the main partitioning screen. > Initially many of the items in the menus are hidden (Bootable flag, > LVM, RAID). The experienced users will have to go to "Preferences" in > order to show all items. Uhm, "Preferences" does not sound like the name for it, maybe "Advanced" ? > > The one I already submitted is a "Server" recipe, that exchanges the > > /var and /home sizes from the "Multi-User" recipe (or something like > > that), I think that having this one would make a lot of people's lives > > easier. > One requirement (in my opinion) for the recipes is that their name will > say enough to the people who install Debian. What is the purpose of a > server with big /var? (http, squid, mail?, news, what else?) (#251415) Any of those could be. Also database server. Almost any server, except a file server. > By the way why do you think that the "multi-user" recipe is not properly > named? (#251414) Well, it means nothing to me. You could be wishing to have everything in a separate partition and only one user, or you could be wishing to have a multi user system in a web server, and thus you might want a much bigger /var. I can see how this config IS related to multi-user, but still the name is more descriptive. -- Bessos,(o_ Marga. (\)_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#263317: Language not set at second-stage
Package: installation-reports I've finished an installation with the latest floppies from http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/floppy/ Everything went smoothly except for one (or maybe two) thing. The language was not set at second stage. When I checked in the questions.dat file, I found that my locale had been set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I only selected Spanish-Argentina, never the @euro thing, but it was there. And apparently this is an unsupported locale. Then, when selecting the time zone, I selected "Buenos Aires", and it went back to the main menu, staying on the "Select Timezone" option. I don't know why this happened. I did not go back, and my priority previous to this was high. After the timezone selection it stayed at medium. I have this feeling that these two things are related, but I don't actually know. I hope someone can find out what's going on. -- Besos, ,''`. Marga : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#226758: Grub-installer: root disk wrongly set
Hi! A friend of mine has just installed Debian from the Beta4 netinstall. Now, I know this is kind of obsolete, but since I found this old, unresolved bug report that seems related to this, I thought that maybe the problem is still present with current builds. The machine is a Celeron 700 with 3 IDE drives (hda, hdb and hdc). For unknown reasons, my friend decided to install in hdb. Everything worked fine, but when rebooting, GRUB could not find the root filesystem. This was because it was misconfigured to look for root in (hd0,0) instead of (hd1,0). Changing it to (hd1,0) fixed the problem. I can send info of the installed machine if necessary. -- Besos, ,''`. Marga : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#234768: Installation Report (Failed horribly)
Package: installation-reports Debian-installer-version: Beta2 uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux ** Disclaimer: The installer failed horribly and did not install any kernel image at all. The kernel was install manually afterwards. ** Second Disclaimer: date is not current date. Date: Feb 23 - Midday Method: boot floppy image The network install was done from http.us.debian.org Through a transparent proxy. Machine: MotherBoard Syntax 8601a Processor: Via C3 1200 Pro Memory: 128 Mb Root Device: IDE Root Size/partition table: Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1241719414521c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hda224184865196635605 Extended /dev/hda52418483419414521 83 Linux /dev/hda648354865 248976 82 Linux swap Output of lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8601 [Apollo ProMedia] (rev 05) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8601 [Apollo ProMedia AGP] 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 40) 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1a) 00:07.4 Bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 40) 00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) 00:07.6 Communication controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Intel 537 [AC97 Modem] (rev 30) 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (rev 6a) Base System Installation Checklist: Initial boot worked:[C] Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [E] Detect CD: [-] Load installer modules: [C] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [C] Create file systems:[C] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system:[E] Install boot loader:[-] Reboot: [-] [O] = OK, [E] = Error, [-] = didn't try it, [C] = Comments Comments/Problems: * Initial boot: The prompting for the following floppy is not friendly. A polite and verbose message can be added quite easily. * Config network: The host's name was not configured (known problem) * Load installer modules: There's no option to manually edit the repository sites (like the "edit sources.list" option you get in apt-setup). * Partition hard drives: When prompting for "Which disk do you want to partition" it does not make sense that AFTER partitioning the disk, it prompts AGAIN and the same disk is selected. The next one should be selected, or the "Next" option in the case where there's only one. * Create file systems: After the partitions were created, the first one (hda1) was selected. Thi partition held the FAT32 file system. It's not wise to prompt for the user to DO things on Fat32 partitions. Fat32 partitions should never be selected by default. For partitions bigger than 1Gb the default FS type should be ext3 (personal opinion). For partitions of type "Linux Swap", the default format method should be "swap" (and the other types might need not to be there at all). * Install base system: ** DIDN'T WORK ** After downloading all the packages and extracting and setting up most of them, there was a misterious error, reported to have been at "/var/log/debootstrap.log", but was not there, there were other errors (like "sleep" missing from /bin) but not the error that had made the installation stop. When retrying, after uncompressing all the packages again, it reported that the file /target/usr/bin/awk already existed, and then installation was cancelled once again. After deleting that file from the second console, and then retrying again, it failed just like the first time. After that, we chrooted to the /target directory and continued the installation manually. The package that seemed to be having problems was "lilo", since it depended on libdevmapper1.00. We had to edit the sources.list to have the repositories inside the chroot, and then installed the missing package and lilo. BTW, lilo was the one that was causing the problem, and I didn't even want to use lilo, I was planning on using Grub. After that, the whole installation was continued manually (kernel, fstab configuration, ssh, etc). I hope you find this report useful. Love, Margarita Manterola - End forwarded message - -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My checklist up to now
This is what I've been doing in the past two days. Happily most of them are success stories: 29/05: * netinst in Spanish with DHCP and default valuesOK * usbkeychain in Italian with DHCP and def. values OK * usbkeychain in English with DHCP and def. values OK * usbkeychain in Spanish with DHCP. Using LVMSeemed to work. Needs to be retested. 30/05: * Business card in Portugues with DHCP and def. values. OK * Business card in English with linux26 and def. values Still has the console problem, supposedly fixed in unstable by Kenshi, but still not in testing. Still has the not locale set when using en_US bug. Rest of it OK. * Business card in Catalan with DHCP. Using LVM. 1 LVM partition, with 3 volumes, all in ext3. OK * Usb keychain in Spanish with DHCP. Using LVM. 2 LVM partitions, with 4 volumes, jfs, xfs, reiserfs and ext3 OK. * Business card in Spanish with DHCP, using linux26 and RAID 3 RAID partitions, with 1 MD device, formatted in Reiserfs. Stayed for TOO long looking for other OS, at grub-installer. Stalled and **FAILED**. * Business card in English, with DHCP, using linux26 and def. valuesOK (Redid this one, just to overwrite the previous one, and see what happened afterwards) * Business card. Spanish Argentina. DHCP, linux26, RAID. 3 RAID partitions. 1 MD device, formatted in ext3. Something is Segfaulting... TBM takes over. (Apparently LVM detection segfaults when there's a RAID volume) *** Plans for 31/05: - Usbkeychain with linux26 - LVM with linux26 - RAID with linux - Floppies ? - Netboot ??? *** So, if you want me to test some other specific thing, that you think might be available at debconf, please tell me, and I'll test it. -- Lots of love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#251944: Lilo+XFS do not work if installing on the partition.
Package: installation-reports Severity: normal Hi! I was with Noodles, testing the netboot installer on his laptop. We wanted to try something fancy, so we installed in a certain partition he had free, formatting it in XFS. The idea was not to touch the rest of the installation that he had in his notebook. So, we did format in xfs, thinking of booting with lilo instead of grub. Now, I think I already said this, but since grub does not work with XFS in /, it would be nice if the installer would NOT try to install grub in /, and switch automatically to lilo. Or at least, switch automatically to the main menu. Anyway, that's not the bug. The bug is that when installed in the partition (instead of the drive's MBR) lilo does not work with XFS either, it fails because it would break the file system. Apparently, XFS does not leave space for lilo to be installed at the beginning of the partition. Actually, it didn't even fail. It stalled, and we had to go to the console, kill the present lilo, do it by hand, and that's how we saw the error message. So, uhm, I see no solution here except for not letting the user do this. Or at least, failing instead of stalling, so that the user can go back and decide what to do. -- Love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Today's checklist
Hello from the debconf4 d-i lab! This is what I've checked today: * Business card. en_AU. DHCP. linux. RAID 2 RAID partitions. 1 MD device. Formatted in ext3. OK * Business card. es_ES. DHCP. linux26. LVM 1 LVM partition. 1 VG. 3 LV. Formatted in reiserfs, xfs and jfs. OK * Business card. es_AR. DHCP. expert26. Normal partitioning. Installing Lilo.OK * Usbkeychain. linux26. gl_ES. DHCP. default values OK * Usbkeychain. linux26. it_IT. DHCP. LVM 2 LVM partitions. 1 VG. 4 LV. Formatting in reiserfs, xfs, jfs and ext3. OK * Netboot installation on Noodles Laptop. P3 700. 192MB RAM. 20GB disk. Installing XFS partition with Lilo in the partition. FAILED. Installing LILO there would break the filesystem, so it's stalled. But the installation could be booted because GRUB was installed in the master boot record and the other installation's / was in ext3. Finally worked. (netboot is OK, the problem is XFS) +++ Comments +++ I don't get why, but I have the Debian logo in the usbkeychain and not in the Business Card or Netinst CD... I've tested this in two different machines with exactly the same results. And is formatting jfs supposed to be SO slow? It's incredibly slow. Most things seem to be working alright. Seems that still need to be fixed, or that have to be tested when they propagate from unstable: * RAID in linux26. * The uses of XFS in /. * The console characters breaking in linux26. * The default locale not being set when selecting en_US. Things that I didn't test due to lack of resources here: - Floppies ?? (could get no floppies around here) - 32mb/48mb install. - pcmcia with linux26 - powerpc and sparc (I think there was someone testing sparc here). -- Lots of love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#252010: Adding help would be helpful
Package: partman Severity: normal So, we all know partman is really not easy for users. If you pick any of the auto options is OK, but if you have to do it manually it's really hard. So, it would be helpful to have some help that would allow the user to know what is what. Like what a "mount point" is, what the "bootable flag" is for, and so on. It makes no sense for this help to be on the previous screen, because the user needs it when he/she is actually changing the partition. -- Love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sparc installation
Hi! I've just installed Debian on a Sparc32. With no monitor. I installed this using the serial console as output, and the netboot image as installation method. Some /proc/cpuinfo: cpu : Texas Instruments, Inc. - MicroSparc fpu : TI MicroSparc on chip FPU promlib : Version 3 Revision 2 prom: 2.9 type: sun4m ncpus probed: 1 ncpus active: 1 BogoMips: 49.76 MMU type: TI Tsunami contexts: 64 nocache total : 1048576 nocache used: 87808 And some free info: total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 44400 27588 16812 0 2516 20160 -/+ buffers/cache: 4912 39488 Swap: 124608 1684 122924 This is my report, based mainly on the differences I found with the i386 installations. It might be that everything was just right, but it's just different in Sparc. About display - This installation had no blue screens, everything was black and white, and just plain ASCII characters, but amazingly, there were BOLD characters! It seems that it's deleting the screen twice, making it really slow on a minicom. It clears the screen when the user presses enter, and then clears it again just before displaying the next screen. Installation Steps -- It didn't ask for language just country "based on your language choice". It didn't ask for keyboard. DHCP worked fine. The "Free memory" step failed. No guided partitioning option at the beginning of the partitioning. It did appear afterwards, but did nothing but just show a "Manually edit the partition table" message No xfs or jfs filesystems. And then it took a LONG time to get everything installed. But it worked. It rebooted properly. Base config prompted me for keyboard. But keymap families had no names (no qwerty), I chose blindly. Then came the usual timezone, users, apt, etc. It took around 3 hours in total to install this weird thing, but the only real failure was the low memory option. It seemed it worked anyway. So: SUCCESS!!! We have an OK for netboot+Sparc32. *** I have the full minicom log of all this if anyone cares to have a look at it. -- Lots of love! Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Checklist Languages.
In the checklist, there are a couple of languages missing: Galego is quite ok (although not completely translated). There was one problem with the "Sí" answer, but I believe Christian has fixed this (both for Galego and Català). Portugues is actually two languages, Brazilian and Portugal's, and they are both fine. And French is also missing, and it's working fine, of course :). Also, Joey tested Russian, and I finished the installation. It's great for both 1st and 2nd stage, but it breaks after the installation is finished. It's awesome to have this amount of languages working so well. -- Love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#252121: Apt from base-config should be pre-seeded with installation values.
Package: installation-reports Severity: minor When installing from network (business card, usb keychain, or netboot), the user is prompted for apt source at first stage, and then prompted again at second stage. I believe this is due to base-config not being pre-seeded with those values already entered by the user in the first stage. I also believe this can be fixed quite easily (for those of you who know how to pre-seed, of course). I hope this can be fixed. -- Love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#252177: Cannot boot m68k d-i, due to the lack of pm2fb driver
Package: installation-reports Severity: grave I was trying to install Simon Richter's Amiga computer, and we couldn't even boot up the kernel, due to the lack of the pm2fb video driver. Can it be included ASAP, so that we can test it before the end of the debconf, pretty please? -- Love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#252164: Package: installation-reports
Hola [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Partitioning goes fine, configuring the lvm goes fine, > but on leaving the lvm and starting up the partitioner, > it hangs at 56%. Only once out of many attempts did > it complete. In that case, it continued to install base > system without offering to create filesystems in the logical > volumes. > > During the one run that starting the partitioner completed, I > mkdir the mount points, mkfs.ext3 the filesystems, and started > mounting. I must have shot self in foot, because I lost access > to all commands. > Shouldn't filesystem creation be part of logical volume creation, or > at least a subsequent process? Well, this might seem stupid, but did you select the filesystem in the partition manager menu? That's where you have to select it. These are the steps for LVM in the new debian installer: 1 - Create the LVM partitions in the main menu. 2 - Go to the LVM Menu. 3 - Create the volume groups. 4 - Create the logical volumes. 5 - Go back to the main menu. 6 - Assign the filesystems and the mount-points. 7 - Proceed. If you did all this (in particular, step 6), then all my explanation is unnecesary, but your message gave me the impression that you skipped this step. Sorry if it doesn't help. Love, Margarita Manterola. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#251526: If XFS selected for / then fallback to Lilo
Hola Karl Hegbloom! > > If the user selects XFS for the root file system, the installer warns > > that it will not work with grub. Which is actually true, I've tested it > > twice and it didn't work :). > Then what is "xfs_stage1_5" for, in /boot/grub? I think I used to have > an XFS / with Grub at some point. Well, I believe it IS possible to make grub work with xfs in the root file system, but not using the normal debian-installer procedure. At least not yet. -- Love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#253210: SCSI controller Adaptec AHA 2940 not detected
Package: installation-reports Severity: normal Hi! I was testing d-i with a trio of SCSI drives today. The three of them connected to an Adaptec AHA 2940 controller. I used the daily-build floppies installation, with network access. Everything went well until I got to partman. There were no discs. Going to ALT-F2, I modprobed "aic7xxx", restarted partman, and then my SCSI drives were there. I'm guessing this is a bug in discover, or maybe something else, not realizing that it has to load this module. Can this be fixed? I could not get an lspci or something like that, because I could not finish the installation (due to RAID problems), but if it's needed, I'll do some normal installation and then get the lspci info. -- Love Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#253212: Can we have RAID5 support as well as RAID1 ?
Package: installation-reports Severity: wishlist Hi! I was trying to do something fancy today, having a machine with 3 SCSI drives, free for installation. And I thought it would be nice if -given the fact that we can configure RAID1 directly from the installer- we could also have RAID5 directly from the installer. I know this is not trivial, but maybe someone finds this interesting enough to implement it. -- Love, ,''`. Marga : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#253211: Problems with the screen display in second stage
Package: installation-reports Severity: normal Hi! I tested the daily-build floppies installation on a normal computer, with network access. Everything went quite fine, but when it rebooted, the screen was broken. Not as before, instead of showing messy characters in place of the borders, there were no borders at all. I might be wrong, but I think this floppies use linux 2.4, and the problem we were having (messy characters in the borders in second stage) only happened with linux 2.6. As a remainder, the fix to the old problem was to execute: consolechars lat0-sun16.psf.gz when the encoding was ISO-8859-1. I think this might be useful to fix the present problem. -- Bezos, (o. Marga. (/)_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#253214: Can't verify that partitions are of exactly the same size.
Package: partman Severity: minor Hi! I was trying to create 3 partitions for RAID use, and I wanted them to be of exactly the same size. But the discs I was using were not of exactly the same size. One of them had 2 extra sectors. The problem is that, when I created the partitions, I had no real certainty of the number of sectors in each partition, and also, I had no way of changing this values. I had to open a shell and use fdisk to check and correct this. I think it would be much better if there would be some "advanced" way of verifying and changing these values... Or maybe, there could be a way of asking the user if he/she wants to run fdisk ? -- Love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No swap partition?
A friend of mine reported to me that he had done an installation with tc1 buisness card, selecting all of the default values and that no swap partition was created. I find this really strange, specially after finding out how the recipes really work, and I'm a bit suspicious of this report (the guy was quite clueless about the way partman works, I think he might have done something wrong). The only data I have about the machine is that it had 256Mb RAM. But anyway, I'd like to know what you think about it. Is it possible that due to some weird disk size, no swap space was available? -- Bezitos, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#253211: Problems with the screen display in second stage
Hola Recai Oktas! > > As a remainder, the fix to the old problem was to execute: > > consolechars lat0-sun16.psf.gz > > when the encoding was ISO-8859-1. > > Having a similar appearance as #250376 which is closed now, I think this > problem should be resolved with the new release of languagechooser > (-1.23). But it should be tested, of course. I thought this was fixed, that's why I wanted to use the daily-build, it seems it is still broken, so it cannot be closed. Anyway, I don't see how the languagechooser will make any difference, this is second stage, and it's some script that is not loading the proper font. -- Love, Margarita. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#253470: di-rep: i386 netboot 20040607
Hola Geert Stappers! > Debian-installer-version: > http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/20040607/netboot/ > a network boot using http://etherboot.org for the boot software at client side. > Used unstable from http://ftp.nl.debian.org for packages. Could you try using testing, and tell us what happened? It seems to me that the problems you experienced might be due to a problem in unstable. Love, Margarita. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trying to installing an old mac68k
Hi! As some of you know, I was trying to install a Macintosh LC III yesterday. Some specs of this machine: CPU: 68030 FPU: 68882 Ram: 12Mb Now, I know the installer requires a minimum of 24Mb/32Mb, but I was still willing to find out how far I could get with it. I installed Penguin 19, so that I could boot Debian from inside MacOS, and then booted the daily image kernel (2.2.something). It booted alright, but had problems with the RAMDisk. For starters, it was too big (13Mb) so it would never fit into the 12Mb of the machine. We tried resizing the filesystem, passing the ramdisk size as a parameter for the kernel, OR the mem size, but we always got the same error. It's an OOPS. I have the screenshot on a digital camera. These are the lines I copied from the screen: Data write fault at 0x00AFF000 in Super Data (pc=0x214FC) Bad Kernel BUSERR (...) Process Swapper (pid=1, stackpage=001bf000) (...) If it's worth, I can post the screenshot. Ok, now, is there a chance that debian-installer might work on this? :) Love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trying to installing an old mac68k
Hola Thiemo Seufer! > [snip: Mac with 12 MB] > > It's an OOPS. I have the screenshot on a digital camera. These are the > > lines I copied from the screen: > > Data write fault at 0x00AFF000 in Super Data (pc=0x214FC) > > Bad Kernel BUSERR > > (...) > > Process Swapper (pid=1, stackpage=001bf000) > > (...) > This basically says the kernel tried to write somwhere beyond the end > of the physical RAM (I guess when expanding the initrd), which triggered > the swapper process, which in turn fails because it can only map > userspace memory pages. Right. We guessed something like this, and then tried to reduce the ramdisk image. I did not do this myself, the other guys in the team did it, but if I understood them well, it seems the filesystem was almost empty, and they could reduce it to 4Mb. But the error did not change. I'm guessing that they forgot to do something when reducing the filesystem, but I don't know what. > > Ok, now, is there a chance that debian-installer might work on this? :) > I doubt it. The ramdisk would have to be substantially smaller in order > to leave enough RAM for the userland processes. The minimum configuration > which was reported to work so far was 16 MB, with removing much stuff > in the ramdisk manually while the install was running. Ok, I'll keep trying anyway. It would be nice to have debian-installer work in this old machines :). Love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#254754: Grub added a "Other operating systems" entry, that does nothing.
Package: installation-reports Severity: minor When installing Grub with the new debian-installer in a machine that already has some windows installed, grubs adds a "Other operating systems" option, and then the "Windows 98/..." option. The "Other operating systems" doesn't actually do anything, but it can be really confusing, since you can press on it, and nothing happens. -- Bezitos, Maggie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#254935: The way the swap size is calculated seems not correct
Package: partman-auto Severity: minor The way partman-auto decides the swap size is quit puzzling. I've read the recipes, and I understand the algorithm, but yet, I was taught since my first GNU/Linux days that sawp size is related to memory size, and partman-auto is deciding only upon hard drive size. It's really weird when you have a big harddrive, but not so much memory (this happened to me yesterday. I had only 64Mb RAM, and partman-auto suggested something like 400Mb Swap, for a 10Gb hard drive). You may argue that it's not a common environment, but I think it's not so uncommon either, and it's really not nice that the value is so much outside a valid range. I think it would be nicer if the parameters for swap size could be taken from the memory size, the minimum being the memory size, and the maximum the double of the memory size... Or something like that. I hope you can have a look at it. -- Besos, Maggie.
Re: PPP / PPPoE / APT sources
Hola martin f krafft! > > Your guess is right. Try with businesscard images. Just to make things clear, the "netinst" is the "110Mb CD image" and DOES have the base system to be installed from CD. The apt repository is selected just before the base system installation The "businesscard" is the "50Mb CD image" and does NOT have the complete system to be installed from CD ROM. You need network to use that one. -- Bessos,(o_ Marga. (\)_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#256237: The time between screens is annoyingly long
Package: partman Severity: minor Hi! Using partman to edit the partition table can be quite annoying. One of the things is, for example, the time between screens. It might not be evident if you have a fast machine, but testing it with a PII or similar is enough to make anyone crazy (you can't imagine what it's like when testing on a m68k). Is there a reason why it takes SO MUCH time to go from the partition-menu to the formatting-menu, and then back? (the same with mount point and the other screens). I don't know what kind of checks are being done in the middle, but I'm hoping that these tests could be optimized all in one stage, so that the rest of the stages go fast. Please take a look at this, you can make the interface much nicer by making it fast. -- Besos, Maggie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#256255: "Validating ... invalid_dists" is not nice
Package: installation-reports
Severity: minor
When starting to install, the first thing the installer does is validate
the Release file, or something.
What it outputs on the screen says something like "Validating
Sarge_invalid_dists_Release"... It's really confusing to see that it's
validating an invalid thing, it looks like something is going wrong.
Could this message be changed to something that makes a bit more sense?
Sorry I didn't know what package this would belong to.
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Bug#257027: Debconf priority is 'Low' at second-stage
Package: prebaseconfig Severity: important With the latest floppy images, I installed an i386 machine. Everything went smooth as usual. The only thing unusual I did was to do some special partitioning, to leave space for a dual-boot system. When rebooting into second stage, debconf priority had suddenly turned to low. On analysis, we found that questions.dat contained no value for debconf priority, while templates.dat contained the correct default. We talked about this on IRC and decided that the problem is in prebaseconfig, since there was a piece of code that made sure that debconf priority was set in the file questions.dat and it seems not to be working anymore. The files (questions.dat and templates.dat) are available on request. Hope someone can fix this :) -- Bezitos, Maggie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#259017: IDE hard-drive not being detected
Package: installation-reports A friend of mine just tried to install sarge from floppies, both beta4 and daily build, into a Pentium II (Deschutes). He could not finish the installation because his hard drive could not be detected, the /dev/ide directory was empty. After asking on IRC, I told him to try with the "unstable" installer instead of "testing", but it did not make any difference. He was using ftp.us.debian.org as mirror. He then installed woody, and it worked fine. This is the lspci after a woody install: :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge (rev 03) :00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge (rev 03) :00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) :00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) :00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) :00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) :00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 08) :00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 0c) :00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 86C326 5598/6326 (rev 0b) What can be the reason for this? -- Bessos,(o_ Marga. (\)_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#259017: IDE hard-drive not being detected
Hola Joey Hess! > > What can be the reason for this? > Dunno, can you send us the syslog please? Uhm, which syslog? The d-i one? The box has been installed with woody installer by now. But I could ask my friend to run the installer again tocopy some files... Is that what you are asking? Does d-i have a ssh server or something like that? Because if it doesn't, then it's kind of hard to send the syslog, since it's impossible to partition the harddrive. -- Besos, ,''`. Marga : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#259017: IDE hard-drive not being detected
Hola Osamu Aoki! > > He could not finish the installation because his hard drive could not be > > detected, the /dev/ide directory was empty. > Unless you tried to load cd-drivers.img or net-drivers.img, this may be > normal if he tried to see them after mounting root.img. He did load the net-drivers.img, and he got as far as partman, he could download packages through the Internet, and the 3 network cards on the box were properly detected. > > What can be the reason for this? > Unless you confirm how far he went to test this lack of access to ide > devices, let's close this bug 259017. Sorry, I thought I had mentioned that he could get to partman. Please don't close this bug, I'd like to find out what's happening -- Besos, ,''`. Marga : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#712696: tasksel: Task for cinnamon
Package: tasksel
Version: 3.21
Followup-For: Bug #712696
Hi!
Cinnamon includes a meta package (cinnamon-desktop-environment) that contains
everything the task should contain.
I'm attaching a diff that creates the task package with that dependency. I hope
this can get applied before the freeze.
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Thanks!
Margadiff -Nru tasksel-3.21/debian/changelog tasksel-3.22/debian/changelog
--- tasksel-3.21/debian/changelog 2014-08-21 06:59:11.0 +0200
+++ tasksel-3.22/debian/changelog 2014-09-06 12:39:44.0 +0200
@@ -1,3 +1,9 @@
+tasksel (3.22) unstable; urgency=medium
+
+ * Add task-cinnamon-desktop.
+
+ -- Margarita Manterola Sat, 06 Sep 2014 12:39:19 +0200
+
tasksel (3.21) unstable; urgency=low
[ Changwoo Ryu ]
diff -Nru tasksel-3.21/debian/control tasksel-3.22/debian/control
--- tasksel-3.21/debian/control 2014-08-21 06:58:35.0 +0200
+++ tasksel-3.22/debian/control 2014-09-06 12:37:38.0 +0200
@@ -241,6 +241,15 @@
# workaround #651495
gstreamer0.10-alsa
+Package: task-cinnamon-desktop
+Architecture: all
+Description: Cinnamon desktop environment
+ This task package is used to install the Debian desktop, featuring
+ the Cinnamon desktop environment, and with other packages that Debian users
+ expect to have available on the desktop.
+Depends: ${misc:Depends},
+ cinnamon-desktop-environment
+
Package: task-laptop
Architecture: all
Description: laptop
diff -Nru tasksel-3.21/tasks/cinnamon-desktop tasksel-3.22/tasks/cinnamon-desktop
--- tasksel-3.21/tasks/cinnamon-desktop 1970-01-01 01:00:00.0 +0100
+++ tasksel-3.22/tasks/cinnamon-desktop 2014-09-06 12:38:12.0 +0200
@@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
+Task: cinnamon-desktop
+Relevance: 8
+Section: user
+Enhances: desktop
+Test-preferred-desktop: cinnamon
+Key:
+ task-cinnamon-desktop
Bug#712696: tasksel: Task for cinnamon
Hi, El Sábado 6 Septiembre 2014 21:29 CEST, Joey Hess Ha escrito: > Some things that seem to be missing from the cinnamon > task that are included in other desktop tasks: > * package management (eg synaptic) I'm not a fan of synaptic, but I've added it to cinnamon-desktop-environment as a Recommends. > * printer configuration? (system-config-printer) This is done inside cinnamon, it has its own configurator. > * network-manager cinnamon already depends on network-manager-gnome. -- Cheers, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/294b-540c7580-5-ff04ac0@162391561
Re: Bug#914897: tech-ctte: Should debootstrap disable merged /usr by default?
Hi, > - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > The winners are: >Option M `middle` >Option H `hard` > > - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Dear Marga, as Chair, could you please make use of your casting vote to break > this tie? I'm using my casting vote to vote in favor of M `middle` (i.e. consider that the desirable situation at the time of bullseye is that both directory schemes are allowed, all packages can be built on either). My rationale for taking this decision is as follows: Right now we are not ready to migrate to building on merged-usr systems in Debian, there are still 29 known packages that are broken and need to be fixed. My expectation is that those packages will be fixed in the not so distant future (i.e. before bullseye) and that after that, the buildd profile in debootstrap will default to having a merged /usr, so that new buildd chroots will use that setup. However, we have no control over how fast individual developers and derivative distributions will migrate to the new format. It's possible that more time will be required until everyone is ready to migrate. Additionally, as of our current understanding of the issue, there are no known problems for building on a non-merged system. Supporting this setup does not imply additional work from the point of view of our maintainers (for now). In the future, it would be a bug if a problem is discovered with building a package on a non-merged /usr system. I understand that this would mean additional work to the maintainers of such a package, but at least as of today this is a non-issue. Eventually, when fixing such bugs becomes a significant burden for our maintainers, it can be decided that the setup is no-longer supported, but my personal recommendation would be to wait at least until bullseye+1. That's why I'm voting "Middle" for bullseye. -- Thanks, Marga signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#268760: Time Zone Selection is broken for "Argentina", in RC1
Package: Installation-reports Severity: normal I'm installing quite a number of machines with RC1, and I've encountered this bug many times. At second stage, when selecting the timezone, the Argentinian time zones show up, this is ok, although the screen is screwd up (it would be nice if this was fix, but it's not really important). The problem is that when I select my time zone (Buenos Aires), it goes back to the main menu (i.e. it lowers debconf priority) and with the bar still standing on time zone selection... This is to say, something is apparently going wrong when I select the timezone, although I don't know what it is. I can send a log about this, if you tell me which. Love, Margarita. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#268763: If the partition table is broken, partman will show no partitions.
Package: partman Severity: normal In a dual-boot lab I work for, the Windows administrator recently screwd up all our GNU/Linux installations. In many of the machines, he screwd up the partition table using Partition Magic, or some other proprietary crap. The thing is that the disc was left with partitions that were inside other partitions, or that overlapped with other partitions, depending on the case. In many of this machines, I had to reinstall the whole system, so I went for a Sarge Installer test. The problem I encountered is that even if fdisk -l /dev/hda shows the partitions, partman does not. It allows only to erase the whole disk. I know it's not partman's fault that the partition table is broken, but since it can be fixed using fdisk, there should be a way of fixing it through partman... Or at least a big warning stating that the partition table is broken and that data will be lost. I hope you can have a look at this. Love, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#273218: Support for netinstall through ADSL
Package: installation-reports Severity: wishlist D-I is able to install from a lot of places, a cable-modem connection, a LAN connection, etc, but right now it's not able to install from a normal ADSL connection. It would be nice to have pppoe support, so that if the machine is connected to a common ADSL modem, the net installation can be completed without further ado. Love, Margarita Manterola. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#251423: closed by Cyril Brulebois (Re: Bug#248882: Marking wontfix)
Hi, > I don't think anyone is working on this, and I'm not convinced it's very > useful anyway. If users are going to deviate from the default for the > language settings they picked right before, I'm quite confident they can > pick the right keymap, or go back to this question when they later > notice an issue. I definitely don't agree with this last sentence, although I'm fine with closing the bug anyway. This feature which I requested back in 2004 has since then been added to graphical environments like GNOME or KDE. Users do find this useful, since most users will not know the name of the keyboard they are using, and in certain countries there are many alternatives which don't mean "deviating" as here stated. However, as I said, the feature is now present in KDE and GNOME, and it can be modified in a much more friendlier way that we could ever have inside d-i (well, unless we decided to give up on using debconf for the questions). I guess that most users will only care about the keyboard being set in their graphical environment instead of the keyboard set at the console, so I think it's fine to close it as "This would be nice to have, but nobody is working on it and right now it's less needed as it was 10 years ago". -- Regards, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140317115021.GB7656@localhost
Bug#742671: seeding base-installer/debootstrap_script with an absolute path emits a warning, and just a codename results in an error
Hey there! It's been a couple of years, but base-installer and debootstrap are still in this odd state where base-installer wants the script to be just the distribution and debootstrap wants it to be the full path. So, whatever you put in the preseed you get an error (alas, the base-installer one isn't fatal, so at least that works). Tianon's patch is really simple, and not only does it fix the problem, but also makes preseeding more flexible. Can it be applied please? -- Thanks! Marga
Bug#251295: Long report - Many things
Package: installation-reports I'm at the debconf, I've been testing the latest build against the hardware provided for us. This is a Pentium IV of 2.00 GHz. with 2 network cards, 40 Gb Hard Drive, and some other nice stuff (sorry for not pasting cpuinfo and lspci, but the machines had no network). So, here come my comments: Network === If no network is detected with the DHCP thing, the next thing that appears is a "Input your IP" dialog. I think this is quite bad, since the user might not know what to input there and be stuck. I think the good thing to do would be to ask: Do you want to set up the network manually? And if not, well, no network is setup... When there's no network, no network should be used. This is to say that if no network was detected or configured, it makes no sense to inform the user that "security" could not be reached, and that kind of stuff. Partition Manager = About the partitioning system, well, it's pretty awful, but anyway, I think the "multi-user" setup is not properly named... Maybe "Safe Partitions", or "Advanced Partition Separation", or something. Or, if you really mean to call it "multi-user" because of the size of the /home, it would be nice to have a "Storage server" flavor, with a big /var and a small /home. Also, about this multi-user flavor, I was using a 40GB drive, and my / was assigned 148Mb. This is not very wise, since we are having /etc, /boot, /root, /bin, /sbin and /lib in this partition... I would say maybe 256Mb would be wiser. Of course, you already know that the design of this debconf dialogs is difficult to read. I have a couple of suggestions to make it a little bit better: * Please add GO buttons in all (or almost all) the screens. Instead of an option "Finish and proceed" that's mixed up with the other options. * Please don't make the user have to type the name of the unit (like GB or MB), it's error prone and confusing. A sign saying "enter the value in MB" or something would be better. * The Tamagotchi is confusing and scaring. It took me a long time to find out that there was HELP about the meaning of those. I think the HELP button should be just in the middle of the Back button and the OK button I'm asking for in the first point. * "Guided partitioning" should be "Restart with guided partitioning". Countries, Localization and Stuff = The second question of the installer is the keyboard selection. This is a good improvement over the previous installation that just assumed the keyboard. But I've noticed that in the English installation, keyboards DO have names, while in the Spanish installation, keyboards are identified by the layout name (la, es, br, etc). In non of the cases is there an alphabetical order. I think they SHOULD be in alph. order. When selecting the timezone, I selected "America", and then I had a long list of cities... It would be nice to have "America" divided by countries... I know this means adding a new debconf screen and new names to translate, but it's really not nice to be looking for the city I'm in the middle of a mess of cities of the whole continent. Tasksel and Aptitude There's no going "back" from Tasksel... I selected tasksel only to see which tasks I had available, but thinking of using aptitude to do the proper install, and then I had no back button. Just finish or cancel. == That's about it for now. I hope someone will read and do something about this things... :) -- Love, Margarita Manterola. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#251298: No default locale selected
Package: installation-reports This is quite important, but I was told it has an easy fix: When the user selects the language in the debian-installer, it pre-seeds the locales, this is great, but the problem is that it does not pre-seed the default-locale, so the default stays at C (tested with en_US). So, whoever is in charge of pre-seeding locales, please pre-seed the default one. -- Lots of love, Margarita -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#251299: Some d-i wishes
Package: installation-reports Severity: wishlist I should probably file one for each of this, sorry if this is a bother to you. * It would be great to have the initial help translated. We are having everything translated but for the initial screens. Is it terribly hard? I guess it is, but yet, it would be really good to have it translated. * When selecting the keyboard, sometimes the user does not know how to recognize his/her keyboard. For example, in Argentina we have 2 official keyboards, the Spanish and the LatinAmerican, most users can't tell them apart although they are substatially different. It would be great to have a "help" screen for the keyboard layouts that states things like "this keyboard has a ñ next to the l, and the @ in the Q key". * The option for "no frame buffer" is like awfully long. Is it too difficult to have a nofb option that translates into the whole string? * After installing a Sarge CD, the debian_version file in /etc says testing/unstable, although it's only testing. I know this has been always like that, but does it make sense? I think it should say "Sarge". Thanks for all the job you've done up to now. -- Love, Margarita Manterola. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#251299: Some d-i wishes
Hola Joey Hess! > > > * It would be great to have the initial help translated. We are having > > > everything translated but for the initial screens. Is it terribly hard? > > > I guess it is, but yet, it would be really good to have it translated. > > Yep, it's probably very hard as this is a chicken-and-egg problem, I'm > > afraid-->how to ask about the language before booting...and in which > > language ? :-) > > I leave this opened anyway : maybe someone will have some miracle idea. > Yes, worse we don't have a frame buffer at that time, or unicode, and > the high-bit part of the charset may be undefined also (on serial > consoles). There's also a limit of 11 screens in syslinux. Ok, so I've been thinking... The only possible way to have this seems to be that the CD is hard coded to boot up in that language... What I mean is that it would be ok to have some system that would allow to create a "Spanish" Debian CD, that boots up in Spanish, and a "French" CD that boots up in French and so on... Could this be added to jigdo? I know this means a lot of work, but I'm dreaming of a system that does not require the user to understand English at all :). -- Love, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#251298: No default locale selected
> > When the user selects the language in the debian-installer, it pre-seeds > > the locales, this is great, but the problem is that it does not pre-seed > > the default-locale, so the default stays at C (tested with en_US). ^ I tested this today, with the sid image and the es_AR locale, and it worked well. So, either it's fixed in sid, or it works for other locales different than en_US. Sorry for not pinpointing the bug. I'll try to find which of these two it is. Love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#251523: Please add a stronger message about RAID creation.
Package: installation-reports Severity: minor While testing RAID creation I realized that if you create the RAID volume before finishing the partition table, then the partition table is broken, because the kernel cannot acknowledge the new partition. Actually, I realized that this was somewhat explained in the pre-RAID screen, but not strongly enough. I didn't get the message until I had already broken the partition table. So, what I'm suggesting is to make the message a bit stronger like: DO NOT CREATE ANY RAID VOLUMES UNTIL YOU'VE **FINISHED** WORKING ON THE PARTITION TABLE. :). I know you don't like to change template for translation reasons, but please keep this in mind. The present message is not strong enough. -- Love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#251524: Partman options
Package: partman Severity: normal Hi! I know the partman menu is changing, so I hope this report gets there before the templates get translated. The LVM and RAID options have to be NOT there until you have actually selected a LVM or RAID volume. I don't know how difficult this might be or not, I hope it's easy :). But it makes no sense at all to show RAID or LVM options when the user has just clicked on the "everything on a big partition" option. *** Now, about the RAID dialogs, there's something that bothers me a lot. We are having a "Cancel" option, that does basically the same as the "Go Back" button, and also there's a "Finish" option, I think it should be a button, not an option to select. This might be a design decision, or something, but it's really confusing for a user. Dialogs usually have an "Ok" button that is the one that proceeds, not an option in the middle of the things that you can do... -- Love, Marga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#251526: If XFS selected for / then fallback to Lilo
Package: installation-reports Severity: normal If the user selects XFS for the root file system, the installer warns that it will not work with grub. Which is actually true, I've tested it twice and it didn't work :). I think that a safer approach would be that if the user says that he DOES want to use XFS in the /, then the installer should automatically fallback to the lilo boot loader. (Lilo works fine with XFS in /) -- Love, Margarita. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#404954: Some comments about the installgui
Package: installation-reports Severity: minor Hi! Sorry for filing this as installation-reports, but I'm not sure to which packages these comments should go. I tested the business-card daily-build, with the "installgui" command. This is not about the installation itself, but about some GUI things. ** First of all, the first screen "Select your language" looks really awful. You probably already know this, but the fact that the letters are not fixed-size makes the text look garbled. A possible solution would be to use fixed-size fonts, another solution would be to add a way to put things in columns. But it currently looks too messy to be displayed to the common user. ** Another thing is the "Screenshot" button. Is this button going to be removed from the "official" versions? It's really not necessary and not "professional" to have a screenshot button in the installation screens. If there really _needs_ to be a Screenshot button, then it would be better if it would be a small icon, and somewhere where the user would not spot it (like in the upper right corner or something like that). ** Another really ugly thing is that when you are inside the "Choose Language" section, in the country choosing, for example, if you press "Go back", it goes to the main menu and not to the previous screen. Now, both a common user and an expert user expect a "Go back" button to go **BACK** and not to an unknown new screen. This is completely confusing. To fix this, either make the "Go back" button go back, or change it into "Main menu" or something. ** About the "Choose Language" thing, it took me a while to understand why it said "Choose Language" when I was actually choosing my country. If you are going to make it a section, then the title should better be more global. Something like "Choose your localization" or "Localization choosing". Also, after selecting "Spanish" in the first screen, the section title still read "Choose Language" instead of "Escoja un idioma" (or whatever the translation is). ** This is just a small wishlist but, would it be possible to detect the double-click on a selected item as a "Continue"? I really expected that to work in the GUI interface. ** Finally, I think that this is the only real bug of this report, I did the following (yes, I'm complicated): 1) I selected Spanish 2) I went back 3) I selected Russian 4) I went back 5) I selected Spanish 6) I moved on When I moved on, the section title was still in Russian, and even if I kept choosing stuff, and the rest of the messages were all in Spanish, the section title kept being in Russian. ** Well, that's all for now. I'll have more comments soon. Thanks for all the work you do :) Love, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#404954: Some comments about the installgui
On 12/29/06, Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is just a small wishlist but, would it be possible to detect the double-click on a selected item as a "Continue"? I really expected that to work in the GUI interface. Well, I found out that this actually works. I don't know why it didn't work for me before. It might be that it does not work under some particular conditions, or it might be that my fingers betrayed me. So, ignore this until I find out what was it that was not working. -- Love, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#404972: Minor problems with Notebook HP nc 6000
Package: installation-reports Severity: minor This installation was done with the business-card daily-build for today (Dec 29th), it went quite fine, but some things didn't behave as expected, and thus I'm filing this report. Boot method: business-card CD Image version: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso Date: Dec 29th, 2006 Machine: HP nc 6000 Processor: Intel Centrino 1.5 GHz Memory: 512 MB Partitions: df -Tl: /dev/hda2 ext3 8783824 1734852 6602768 21% / tmpfstmpfs 258372 0258372 0% /lib/init/rw udev tmpfs 1024068 10172 1% /dev tmpfstmpfs 258372 0258372 0% /dev/shm /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hda Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 77520 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 1 5892029695648+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hda2 * 58921 76628 8924107+ 83 Linux Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hda3 76628 77520 4498205 Extended Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hda5 76628 77520 449788+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris Output of lspci -nn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to I/O Controller [8086:3340] (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to AGP Controller [8086:3341] (rev 03) 00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:24c2] (rev 03) 00:1d.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:24c4] (rev 03) 00:1d.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:24c7] (rev 03) 00:1d.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:24cd] (rev 03) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge [8086:2448] (rev 83) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge [8086:24cc] (rev 03) 00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE Controller [8086:24ca] (rev 03) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:24c5] (rev 03) 00:1f.6 Modem [0703]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller [8086:24c6] (rev 03) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] [1002:4e50] 02:04.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter [8086:1043] (rev 04) 02:06.0 CardBus bridge [0607]: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M3/MC3 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus Controller [1217:7223] 02:06.1 CardBus bridge [0607]: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M3/MC3 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus Controller [1217:7223] 02:06.2 System peripheral [0880]: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711Mx 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus Accelerator [1217:7110] 02:06.3 CardBus bridge [0607]: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M3/MC3 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus Controller [1217:7223] 02:0e.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705M_2 Gigabit Ethernet [14e4:165e] (rev 03) (I'm skipping the lspci -vnn since nothing went that wrong). Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot: [O] Detect network card:[O] Configure network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [*] Detect hard drives: [*] Partition hard drives: [*] Install base system:[O] Clock/timezone setup: [O] User/password setup:[O] Install tasks: [*] Install boot loader:[O] Overall install:[O] Comments/Problems: The "Detect hard drives" and "Partition hard drives" steps completed ok, but in the middle were REALLY slow, with no process bar in the case of the "Detect hard drives". The syslog that was shown during this long wait was this: Dec 29 14:31:27 main-menu[1380]: INFO: Menu item 'disk-detect' selected Dec 29 14:31:28 net/hw-detect.hotplug: Detected hotpluggable network interface eth0 Dec 29 14:31:28 net/hw-detect.hotplug: Detected hotpluggable network interface lo Dec 29 14:31:28 hw-detect: PCMCIA bridge driver already present in kernel Dec 29 14:31:28 hw-detect: Missing modules 'ide-mod (Linux IDE driver), ide-probe-mod (Linux IDE probe driver), ide-detect (Linux IDE detection), ide-floppy (Linux IDE floppy) Dec 29 14:31:28 net/hw-detect.hotplug: Detected hotpluggable network interface eth0 Dec 29 14:31:28 net/hw-detect.hotplug: Detected hotpluggable network interface lo Dec 29 14:32:08 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 Dec 29 14:32:46 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sec
Re: Slashdot effect
On 1/28/07, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Due to continued problems with "Slashdot effect" I've moved this temporarily to gluck (http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ now redirects automaticaly). Is "goodbye-microsoft" really the better name for this? I understand that it can be funny. But: 1) It's aggressive 2) It does not say anything about debian 3) You might even be accused of trademark infringement 4) the .com at the end is misleading However, I like the installer for windows idea. Thus, I propose to change this into non-aggressive, non-microsoft, debian name as in: * get-debian.org (This could even be get.debian.org and be the official d-i, g-i, w-d-i page) * automatic-debian.org * dive-into-debian.org * plug-into-debian.org * startup-debian.org * debian-for-newbies.org * debian-for-windows.org * etc, etc, etc I don't know if using "for windows" is trademark infrigement. It probably is :-\ -- Besos, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Goodbye Microsoft
On 1/28/07, Geert Stappers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Op 28-01-2007 om 11:13 schreef Margarita Manterola: > On 1/28/07, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Due to continued problems with "Slashdot effect" I've moved this > >temporarily to gluck (http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ now redirects automaticaly). > Is "goodbye-microsoft" really the best name for this? Yes, Robert does think so, at least he did pick that name. And I support him. Well, I was not addressing Robert himself, I was addressing the whole d-i team. Specially taking into account that the contents of the domain are now hosted in a Debian machine, I think it would be better if we could agree on a nicer name. > But: > 1) It's aggressive There is no aggression in saying goodbye. It depends on _how_ you say goodbye. And "goodbye-microsoft.com" does sound aggresive to me. > 2) It does not say anything about debian We can live with that. Maybe, but I've seen that d-i takes good care of always showing things to be "debian". That's why I mentioned it. > 3) You might even be accused of trademark infringement Thank you for the warning. I serious believe that a correct spelled name is good publicity. You might believe this. I don't think Microsoft believes the same thing though. If the trademark holder feel offended, they are free to contact us. Yes, well, I guess that they probably will, as soon as this site gets popular enough. However, due to the fact that this is now being hosted in a Debian machine, you might (or not) hurt the project in the meantime. I think this issue should be taken a little bit more seriously. You are welcome to claim such doman name. Contact the creator of "goodbye-microsoft.com" before you start mirrorring. I don't plan to start mirroring at all. I was just suggesting some domain names that might be better suited than "goodbye-microsoft" for the hosting of the Debian-Installer Loader for Windows, if you don't like them, that's ok. I actually think that get.debian.org is pretty cool, and that we should have it as a friendly page that lists the different ways of getting Debian, but that's another story. -- Besos, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#259017: Closing this bug since I can't give more info.
close 259017 thanks I'm sorry, the machine with which this bug report was filed has now been put into production, and cannot be used for testing. Hence, I'm closing the bug report. Anyway, I believe the bug is probably fixed. -- Bessos,(o_ Marga. (\)_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#251298: Bug fixed
close 251298 thanks I have just done a new installation in Spanish, with rc2, and the locale was preseeded correctly. Thanks for fixing this bug! -- Bessos,(o_ Marga. (\)_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#283130: Typo bug in Spanish translation
Package: countrychooser Severity: minor Tags: patch There are 2 small typo bugs in the Spanish translations. I'm attaching a patch. -- Bessos, Maggie. --- es.po 2004-10-07 13:51:11.0 -0300 +++ es_new.po 2004-11-26 15:37:25.0 -0300 @@ -71,14 +71,14 @@ "or regions." msgstr "" "Basándose en su idioma, es probable que esté en alguno de los siguientes " -"paíseso regiones." +"países o regiones." #. Type: text #. Description #. Main menu entry #: ../templates-in:38 msgid "Choose country or region" -msgstr "Escoja un país o region" +msgstr "Escoja un país o región" #: ../countrylist:15 msgid "North America"
Successful Installation Report - RC2
Since this is a Successful installation report, I'm not filing it as a bug.
I've just installed RC2 in a Sempron machine, that had WinXP installed in
it.
I booted with linux26, resized the NTFS partition with partman (this is
kind of a hidden feature, isn't it? :), from 40GB to 10GB, and finished the
installation normally.
Then rebooted into the other operating system, that decided to do a CHKDSK,
and everything was fine. Then it rebooted the system. I chose WinXP
again, it booted fine, and after a minute or so, said that it had finished
detecting the new hardware (?) and that it needed to reboot again. After
that, it worked fine.
In conclusion, NTFS resizing works smoothly, even if it needs 2 reboot for
WinXP to work.
This was awesome. I'm now deleting it, obviously :).
This is the cpuinfo, just in case you want to know what the machine looked
like:
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 8
model name : AMD Sempron(tm) 2300+
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 1595.986
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mp mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips: 3185.04
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Besitos, {o_
Marga. (')_
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Bug#283137: Problem when booting from second CD
Package: installation-reports Severity: minor This report was done with RC2 CDs, downloaded via bittorrent Known by my will to do weird things, this time I tried booting from the second CD, instead of the first. It listed only "linux" and "expert" as booting methods, so I chose "linux" But I couldn't get really far, because quite early in the installation (just after reading the CD's data), it stated that the CD didn't contain the correct kernel modules (there was a "mismatch" between the modules and the kernel version), and took me back to the menu. There's no option (or at least I could find no option) allowing me to umount the CD and put the right one in, so I had to reboot to do a successful installation, booting from the first CD. I don't know whose fault it is, hence I'm filing it to Installation-Reports. -- Love, (o. Marga. (/)_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#283149: Obfuscated Argentinian Timezones
Package: base-config Serverity: normal Hi! I've seen this bug for a while now. Sorry for not reporting it earlier. When prompted to select the timezone, at second stage of the installer, if you have chosen "Argentina" as the country, you get a dialog that is too big to fit on screen, but can be corrected to show up correctly: The timezones are shown with the names of the most important Argentinian cities, followed by a series of 2 initials, like TF, RT, VB, etc. This initials don't really mean anything to Argentinian people (we don't refer to our cities by their initials), and are the cause of the screen getting too wide. If just the names of the cities could be shown, it could be much better. This information is located in /usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab, and I'm referring mainly to the "TZ" and "comments" column. I think it would be better if just the "TZ" information was shown, without the comments. -- Bessos,(o_ Marga. (\)_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Error in Installation Guide, amd64 for EM64T?
On 9/1/06, Tapio Lehtonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Installation guide says in Chapter 2: "If your system has a 64-bits AMD64, Intel EM64t or Intel Core 2 Duo processor, you will probably want to use the installer for the amd64 architecture instead of the installer for the (32-bits) i386 architecture." Is this really true? What is installer for i64 good for, then? Or does Intel have in addtition to EM64t prosessors another kind of 64-bit prosessor that is not compatible with amd64? The ia64 architecture is not the same as the EM64t architecture. The ia64 architecture is completely incompatible with i386, it was developed by Intel and HP to be much better than the previous Intel architecture, but it was not very accepted, because it was so incompatible with i386. So, I guess the Installation Guide is ok. -- Besos, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problemas instalacion
Re-directing to debian-user-spanish... On 10/19/06, Favel Brito Marquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Saludos, estoy teniendo probleas a la hora de las particiones, mi disco duro es de 160 Gb y esta totalmente vacio, mi pc es P4 a 3.00 Ghz. Espero su ayuda, Favel Hola Favel, La lista a la que escribiste (debian-boot) es una lista en la que se habla en inglés exclusivamente. Para obtener ayuda en español, deberías usar la lista: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/ Por otro lado, con respecto a tu problema específico, no queda claro cual es el problema que tenés. Cuando envíes el mail a debian-user-spanish, por favor dá más detalles acerca de qué es lo que te funciona o no te funciona, qué versión del instalador estás usando, qué es lo que estás queriendo hacer, etc. -- Besos, Marga
Bug#444978: marked as done (Debian instalation)
> > I bought a new machine with mother board DG965SS from Intel and DVD > > GSA-4160 from LG. When I install the Debian, the CD-ROM is not found > Closing this install report because there is no software error. Isn't "not detecting the CD-ROM" a sofware error? -- Besos, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#444978: marked as done (Debian instalation)
On 10/2/07, Geert Stappers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I bought a new machine with mother board DG965SS from Intel and DVD > > > > GSA-4160 from LG. When I install the Debian, the CD-ROM is not found > > | | and is necessary to install the CD-ROM drive using the disquete > > > Closing this install report because there is no software error. > > Isn't "not detecting the CD-ROM" a sofware error? > It is the boot software on the motherboard that is not detecting the CD-ROM, > that is no software error in the debian-installer. Well, that's not what I read from the report. It might be that it's a motherboard problem, but it also might be that after booting and starting d-i, d-i says that the CD is not found. This has happened to me in the past, and I think it's possible for this to be happening with some new piece of hardware. I'd definitely ask the submitter for more information before closing the bug disregarding a possible software problem. -- Besos, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#444978: Debian instalation
Hi jecdiniz! On 10/3/07, jecdiniz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > During instalation, I choice the portuguese language and the type of keyboard. > Everyhing normal and when the I get the CD-ROM item, I got the problem. > I able to boot the DVD but the problem occurs whem I try to install trought > my DVD. > I have in my machine the Windows XP and I don't have this problem. I saw the > new > release of Etch 4 and my version is old. Do you think that the problem is > this? It might be. Could you please state exactly which version of the Debian Installer you tried? This should help in finding out why it didn't recognize your CD. Using a more current version will probably fix the problem -- Besos, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#256237: closing bug
Hola Miguel Figueiredo! > I have done myself several installations on virtual machines and on a netbook > with a modest performance and while using the current release the > responsivness on the installation experience it's very acceptable. > See Colin's comments on the improvements made on partman You can't really compare a modern netbook or virtual machines on any modern computer to the performance of a 6 bogomips (yes, six) m68k. In order to test this bug, one would need to use the slowest machine possible that is able to run squeeze. And it'd still be much faster that the particular machine I was using back then (and that was supported in Debian, back then) > I am closing the report as the behaviour it's much different from when it was > reported (releases ago). This is probably true, although impossible for me to test. > Feel free to try the current installer release [1] (Debian Squeeze RC2) and > report on your installation experience with the current installer. I've tried the current installer with quite a lot of machines. However, the machines that triggered my complain are no longer supported by Debian, and so it's really not possible to test if this is the case or not anymore. I guess it's ok to close the bug even if it might not be fixed, since the hardware I mentioned in my complain is no longer supported by the installer. Which is sad, but I guess it's how life goes. -- Love, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110201185225.GA32611@localhost
Re: Sudo mode and policykit
Hi! On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Speaking as policykit maintainer, I have to say that I generally like > the idea of such an "admin" group and thus would prefer 1.). Speaking as a user and sysadmin, I also prefer the group approach. But I dislike having to add yet another new group. Debian already lists several groups [1] that could be used for this. Particularly, staff looks like a good option to me. The amount of groups that a users needs to belong to in order to get the best experience from their computer is growing and growing. This wouldn't be a problem, if there wasn't a bug with nfs related to having more than 16 groups [2]. Also, is there an easy way to add a second (or third) user to all the groups that the user created when installing is added? If there isn't, I think there should be. [1]: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch12.en.html [2]: I regularly need to delete myself from one or two groups in order to add myself to another group that I need, because of this bug; I have 8 nfs groups, thus cannot afford to have more than 8 local groups, so I generally have to choose either having access to the scanner or the sound card. -- Besos, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e8bbf0361003251721n12d79075lba47ef6dc3043...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Sudo mode and policykit
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > In squeeze, with consolekit installed, a lot of groups are made > obsolete: audio, netdev, powerdev, plugdev, video (modulo a number of > buggy packages remaining), probably bluetooth. In the end, floppy and > cdrom could go away as well. We are actually improving in this > direction. I'm very glad to hear this. However, I'm worried that I (and I think many others too) have no idea how to handle having users with the appropriate permissions without the groups. I looked up the information about consolekit, and couldn't find any reference for this either. I very recently installed squeeze with KDE, and the way to allow the second user to access to USB devices and similar stuff was to add that user to the same groups the first user had been added. -- Besos, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e8bbf0361003261115m388a0d14x9a1863aad183c...@mail.gmail.com
