Re: Proposed patch: ppcdetect -> archdetect

2003-10-20 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Rolf Brudeseth wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:52:06AM -0500, Rolf Brudeseth wrote:
> Why is the zImage called vmlinuz (see above). Surely this must confuse more
> people than just me. Above you say you provide it and below you do not.

Tradition.

Originally the UNIX kernel images was called `unix'.
When UNIX got virtual memory support, it became `vmunix'.

Similarly, the Linux image was called `vmlinux', and when it got compression
support (either implicit or explicit), people use `vmlinuz'.

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Re: Install debian RS/6000 44P Model 170

2004-01-23 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Leigh Brown wrote:
> Sven Luther said:
> > Well, does yaboot work on all chrps ? I have had info from Geert that he
> > had trouble with yaboot on his longtrail.
>
> It should be possible, depends on the problem he encountered of course...

My version of Open Firmware (from Firmworks) didn't like the yaboot loader and
kept rebooting with the message `rebooting with the correct settings for this
client program' (or something like that), until I disconnected the disk and it
couldn't find the boot loader anymore.

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Re: Install debian RS/6000 44P Model 170

2004-01-23 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Leigh Brown wrote:
> Geert Uytterhoeven said:
> > My version of Open Firmware (from Firmworks) didn't like the yaboot loader
> > and kept rebooting with the message `rebooting with the correct settings
> > for this client program' (or something like that), until I disconnected
> > the disk and it couldn't find the boot loader anymore.
>
> Interesting.  Can you send the output of "printenv" to me, please?  Also,

If the device tree is sufficient, you can get it at
http://home.tvd.be/cr26864/Linux/PPC/DeviceTree.html

> can the longtrail boot from CD's?  Does it use the same disk format as
> RS/6000's to do so?

Should work, as long as you have a supported file system on it (e.g. ISO9660).

I never tried booting from CD, but I once did an `ls' on a CD, and it worked.
So far I only booted from floppies, SCSI disks, and IDE disks (all from a file
in a FAT partition).

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Re: G5 install?

2004-07-11 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 09:59:46PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 12:56:06PM -0700, Brad Boyer wrote:
> > > It seems bad to me for one of these scripts to be so sure that it can
> > > load a particular module, when the rest of the install is pretty
> > > careful to allow a user in expert mode to override module selection.
> > > Of course, loading a module shouldn't really crash the machine, but
> > > that's another story.
> >
> > The problem with floppy.o and a few other ISA-aera modules is that they
> > randomly poke into the I/O space - something that will crash lots of
> > machines, including macs.  But AFAIK there's no power4 or ppc970-based
> > machine with a floppy driver, so shouldn't we just drop that driver?
>
> That is another possibility, but still, the fact that it doesn't break
> on other pmacs of the powerpc flavour is probably only luck, so fixing
> the kernel driver in the powerpc specific patch would be a better work
> around, until the legacy driver problem is solved in the 2.7+ kernel
> trees.

Indeed.

All these drivers should check with a platform-specific ISA presence checker
first. Things that come into my mind are an array of platform devices, or even
a simple array with I/O port number.

> Those would be the serial driver, which is already fixed, the parallel
> one, the floppy driver, the ps2 atkbd and mouse stuff, what else ?

(cat /proc/ioports on ia32 box)

RTC? -> Probably already sufficiently shielded by Kconfig
VGA? -> vgacon and vga16fb
IDE? -> Probably already fixed

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Re: Booting installer on RS/6000 43p-140

2004-07-13 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 02:46:54PM +0100, Leigh Brown wrote:
> > Sven Luther said:
> > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 03:06:23PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > >> Hello,
> > >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 11:28:46AM +0900, Jerome Walter wrote:
> > >> > Helge, did you have had more success than me on your RS/6000 ? If i
> > >> > succeed in installing Debian on this machine, i will have another PPC
> > >> > (don't know what's inside) to install, more RS/6000-like, so all the
> > >> > feedbacks are welcome.
> > >>
> > >> From OF prompt, I could not achive anything. From the SMS (graphical)
> > >> I set netbooting and off I went. On the graphics display (IBM GXT
> > >> 250P/255P) I see the following:
> > >
> > > Any idea what this graphic card reallyu is ?
> >
> > Proprietary IBM, and won't work with Linux.
>
> Oh, ...
>
> Would probably be the same for an GXT3000P, right ?
>
> Any chance to get the specs out of IBM and writting a driver or such ?

What does `lspci' say? IIRC, some of these GXT cards are plain S3 cards.

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Re: Booting installer on RS/6000 43p-140

2004-07-13 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Leigh Brown wrote:
> Geert Uytterhoeven said:
> > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Sven Luther wrote:
> >> Any chance to get the specs out of IBM and writting a driver or such ?
> >
> > What does `lspci' say? IIRC, some of these GXT cards are plain S3 cards.
>
> The GXT110P is the S3-based card.  If only there were a working s3
> framebuffer driver :-/

There are a few of them (`S3 frame buffer drivers') floating around on the net.
Whether they work on your card(s) is a different question...

Does X works? XF86_S3 3.x used to work on PReP, IIRC...

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Re: No HFS driver, and "change install priority" menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-24 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, Rick Thomas wrote:
> On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:13 PM, Sven Luther wrote:
> > I wrote:
> > > I understand the size constraints.  But isn't that the reason why
> > > we added the "root-2" floppy?  Would adding hfs and/or hfsplus kick
> > > us over the edge into "root-3" land?
> > 
> > We could indeed add it to root-2, but i would prefer to get the floppy
> > loading
> > work correctly before i do this rather cosmetic thing working. And
> > hfs/hfsplus
> > without ide/scsi driver is not really all that usefull, isn't it.
> 
> Actually, it's quite useful -- for writing to mac-formatted (HFS) floppy
> disks... as in for saving the log files for later debugging when all else has
> failed.

In emergency, you can always use `tar cvf /dev/fd0 ...'.

Who needs a file system, if he has tar? ;-)

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Re: Booting to floppy

2001-02-28 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 11:35:50PM -0800, Tovar wrote:
> > just my crazy suggestion, if you can't get the keyboard to work right
> > for the rootdisk prompt, what about changing it to wait 10 or 15
> > seconds for a rootdisk insertion and then continuing?  would that be
> > difficult/messy to implement?
> > 
> > Well, the standard Mac way of doing things is the check the floppy status
> > and to read whatever gets inserted.  That, of course, assumes the floppy
> > hardware provides that information.  Actually, i wish the i386 installer
> > would do that, it would save alot of hassle.
> 
> i386 generally can not do that.
> 
> PowerPC theoretically could... if I could talk the driver into giving
> me that information.  Suggestions welcome :)

Since AmigaOS did it as well and Amigas use standard PC floppy drives (only
DD, HD is different), it should work on i386 as well.

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:26:44AM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
> > On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:05:03PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > > 
> > > I don't know if it is possible to enable such a per subarch warning (altough
> > > it may be common the the m68K/amiga folk).
> > Floppys on m68k are completely useless AFAIK. Since Amigalilo is not
> > supported by Debian, who needs floppies anyways when everything comes on CD? 
> 
> Well, you may want to use floppies nonetheless, suppose you have a frechly
> bought harddisk to install from. Imagine the following scenario (if you have
> 1.4MB floppies, that is).
> 
>  - you have one rescue floppy, bootable and formated in amiga style (is that
>possible for 1.4MB ones ?). On this floppy you put your gzipped kernel, the

You cannot boot from 1.4 MB floppies, only from 880 kB or 1760 kB floppies.

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:11:38AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > You cannot boot from 1.4 MB floppies, only from 880 kB or 1760 kB floppies.
> 
> Well, ok no problem, just make a tarball that can be copied to 1760Kb
> floppies, it is even better, since we have more place for stuff.
> 
> I don't think we can ever fit a kernel and amiboot in 880kb, could we ?

My 2.4.4 zImage is only 458036 bytes long. I have lots of modules, but it could
work. I remember I once did.

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Tue, 15 May 2001, Alan Buxey wrote:
> > Also, is there a way (under linux) to detect if the floppy is of the 1.76 or
> > the 880 variety ?
> 
> dont know - I always believe that floppies are too dumb..you only know
> what you can do when things you try fail ;-)

grep FD_HD_3 linux/drivers/block/amiflop.c.

But I don't think you can easily find out from userspace.

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Tue, 15 May 2001, Alan Buxey wrote:
> > My 2.4.4 zImage is only 458036 bytes long. I have lots of modules, but it could
> > work. I remember I once did.
> 
> custom images targetted for each APUS environment might be squeezed in. 

Oh yes, this was an m68k image. APUS images are probably quite larger due to
PPC asm being less compact.

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:15:14PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote:
> > > Don't you need some part of AmigaOS to make a floppy bootable?
> > 
> > no, and yes.  Under AmigaOS you run 'install df0:' but this doesnt
> > put any files onto the disk as such, it just writes a bootblock
> > (a few hundred bytes) to the floppy. Theres no reason why we couldnt have
> > an AmigaOS bootblock and write it to disk with 'dd' 

But the bootblock is code. Of course we can reverse engineer and clean room
reimplement one (IIRC it justs opens dos.library and returns 1 or 0).

> but you do get access to the CLI if i remember well, isn't it ?

Yep. But it's quite useless without real commands on the disk :-)

> > theres no issue of copyright with bootable floppies. PD software has been
> > on such things for years.  I guess as a last resort we can create a
> > bootable emegency floppy, compact it into ADF format and then it can go
> > onto the CD - and users can make it themselves from under AmigaOS with
> > transADF and the like?
> 
> why not a plain gzipped tarball or lha archive ?

Because it's easier to mess up things with tar/lha than with ADF or DMS?
Alternatively, let them use gunzip and dd :-)

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:17:52PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote:
> > > And did you have the same amount of stuff in it ? 
> > 
> > these are the standard downloadables from APUS@sourceforge
> > 
> > they have pretty much the same functionality. I guess
> > there are many features that can be cut out of 2.4.4
> > (but most stuff, such as khttpd are as modules already)
> 
> Ok, do you still volunteer to give it a try ?
> 
> mmm, would it be possible to make 880Ko ones ? i don't think so, but then you
> may be able to do it, splitting the kernel in 2 and reconstructiong it again
> in the ramdisk. You would need copy and join though. Are those in the AimgaOS
> rom ? maybe ...

Copy and join are in C:.

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Tue, 15 May 2001, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:23:38PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > > not that i can think of.  certainly boot-programs (such as the
> > > APUS/AF-booter (by Mr Duncan ) need MUI libraries, but the plain
> > > boothack/bootstrap for APUS just needs powerpc.library, which is in ROM
> I don't use APUS, plain old A2k. AFAIK amiboot needs some AOS libraries,

Me neither.

> Geert?

Since we switched for ixemul.library to libnix, no non-ROM libraries are needed
anymore, except perhaps SetPatch and 68040.library for '040 boxes (aiii).

> > > almost all supported stuff...the only main exception that rings alarm
> > > bells in my head is the CyverVision3D - doesnt this have to be initialised
> > > to the resolution you want under workbench before laucnhing into APU - or
> > > is this now fixed?
> CV3D works, at least from the m68k kernel images. Ken did not officially
> release the source yet (are you listeing?), but the lastet driver works on
> ZorroII (and probably on Zorro3, since he did it).

Yep, where are the patches???

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-16 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Wed, 16 May 2001, Alan Buxey wrote:
> > Well, we could split the kernel in 2 and join it in ram: before launching it.
> > Or we could try for a less than 880Ko modular kernel, but i have not big hopes
> > on this one. Michel Daenzer is the apus kernel package maintainer for debian.
> 
> a small, but brief note:
> 
> IS there not a very very big problem with having the kernel in ram: when
> launching?
> 
> joining two files up into ram: is no problem (6 lines of code max.) but
> doesnt ram: just get completely trashed when the bootstrap loads up the
> kernel (and thus corrupting the kernel image?)

No, the bootstrap first allocates memory for the kernel (and the ramdisk), then
loads the image, and only then trashes the rest.

> i thought this was the case and people have to have the installer and
> kernel on media, rather than in volatile ram:

The only problem is that people might not have enough memory for both RAM: and
kernel/ramdisk.

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-16 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Wed, 16 May 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > > I am trying to understand why...
> > > For an 880k floppy the space problem makes impossible to do it.
> > > But i wish to be contraddicted... :))
> > 
> > Well, we could split the kernel in 2 and join it in ram: before launching
> > it. Or we could try for a less than 880Ko modular kernel, but i have not big
> > hopes on this one.
> 
> I am experimenting, and it looks promising. I basically moved everything
> except video and disk drivers to modules and here's what it gives so far:
> 
> michdaen@pismo> gzip -cv9 vmlinux > vmapus.gz   ~/src/apus-cvs/2.4
> vmlinux:   60.1%
> michdaen@pismo> ll vmapus.gz~/src/apus-cvs/2.4
> -rw-r--r--1 michdaen src888321 May 16 19:49 vmapus.gz
> michdaen@pismo> du -k vmapus.gz ~/src/apus-cvs/2.4
> 868   vmapus.gz
> 
> Is this small enough? I guess I could squeeze out a few more K...

Probably not yet.

> Do we need support for foreign partition maps?

Not for installation.

> Do the fbcon packed pixels modules work?

Yes, but only for modular drivers.

I'd say include fbcon-afb (amifb), fbcon-cfb8 (gfx cards) and fbcon-cfb16
(gfx cards with amiboot -v).

You don't need fbcon-ilbm since amifb doesn't need it unless you use
video=amifb:ilbm.

You don't need fbcon-mfb since amifb will fallback to fbcon-afb/fbcon-ilbm for
depth 1 when fbcon-mfb is not available.

You don't need fbcon-cfb24 and fbcon-cf32 since no one wants to run an install
console in those depths anyway. I don't think you need it for half-supported
gfx cards with amiboot -v, only depth 16.

> Do we need Minix fs support yet?

Not for installation.

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-17 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > You don't need fbcon-cfb24 and fbcon-cf32 since no one wants to run an
> > install console in those depths anyway. I don't think you need it for
> > half-supported gfx cards with amiboot -v, only depth 16.
> 
> Will this prevent X from running in those depths?

No, fbcon-* files are used for the console only.

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-17 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Alan Buxey wrote:
> > > Do we need Minix fs support yet?
> > 
> > Not for installation.
> 
> the ramdisk image no longer uses MiniFS? if so minifs could be dropped
> ages ago.

Hmm... I don't know. Someone should check this.

> I guess we also dont need OCS gfx support...as PowerPC cards only work on
> ECS and AGA systems.

Yep, you can remove OCS/ECS support, but it'll save only a few bytes, I guess.

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-17 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 12:09:02PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > The only problem is that people might not have enough memory for both RAM: and
> > kernel/ramdisk.
> 
> huh, how much is this ? i guess most apus users have at least 8MB by now, is
> that not enough ? Let's start a query on sourceforge to have an idea ?
> 
> Or maybe we could clone the linux/m68k registry pages to say only apus and
> have them on sourceforge ? what do you think geert ?

Robert Ramiega took over maintenance of the Linux/m68k registry about 2 years
ago. However, the registry wasn't updated since Feb 2000.

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-17 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> I already considered all this and am now at 848 K. How much space exactly do 
> we have?

IIRC you have 837 kB free on an OFS-formatted floppy. Since we all use FFS
these days it (at least the kernel) should fit. And don't use DC-FFS since it
will waste^H^H^H^H^Hconsume even more diskspace.

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-17 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 May 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > I already considered all this and am now at 848 K. How much space exactly
> > > do we have?
> > 
> > IIRC you have 837 kB free on an OFS-formatted floppy. Since we all use FFS
> > these days it (at least the kernel) should fit. And don't use DC-FFS since
> > it will waste^H^H^H^H^Hconsume even more diskspace.
> 
> :) AFAIR FFS gives the full 880K minus a few?
> 
> BTW if we could use bzip2, we'd be all set already:
> 
> michdaen@pismo> du -sk vmapus.bz2   ~/src/apus-cvs/2.4
> 776   vmapus.bz2

Has no one added bzip2 support to zlib yet?

However, the increased size of zlib may offset the decreased size of the
kernel.

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Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-17 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Alan Buxey wrote:
> > I don't think this is feasible as some people won't have anything connected 
> > to their AGA output. Right now all the Amiga framebuffer devices are in.
> 
> agreed - a lot of people either dont have a monitor that can 'do' the AGA
> modes (even the 29.xHz VGA thing) , others dont have scan-doublers or TV's
> handy (if they've got a modulator).

Note that `vga' and `vga70' in Linux/amifb are real 31 kHz modes, not the
`approximating' stuff from AmigaOS.

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Re: No HFS driver, and "change install priority" menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-10-01 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Rick_Thomas wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 05:18, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 11:11:49PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> > > Now, is the loss under 2.6 of the HFS ".finderinfo" and ".resource" 
> > > pseudo-directories a bug, or a feature?
> > 
> > You probably need to load the hfs+ driver ?
> > 
> > If that doesn't solve it for you, please fill a bug report againstz our 2.6
> > powerpc kernel packages.
> 
> Well... I tried the hfsplus driver.  It refused to accept the hfs
> filesystem on the floppy image.  told me I should use "hfs" instead.

IIRC, HFS+ is not compatible with HFS. So if the floppy uses HFS, you should
use the HFS driver, not the HFS+ driver.

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Re: No HFS driver, and "change install priority" menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-10-01 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Sven Luther wrote:
> Geert, you can probably help us here, the current scenario is :
> 
>   - 2.4 floppies, either work fine, the frambuffer takes over and we see the
> kernel boot info, or fail because of miboot problems, and we see a red
> cross over the miboot stuff.

Who draws the red cross?

>   - 2.6 floppies, they load and then just before the framebuffer takes over,
> we see a the small miboot icon changing color (like inverted video). When
> it worked it would stay like that for a second or two, and then the
> frambuffer device takes over and we see the log message. When it doesn't
> work, we don't see the red cross, but we see the inverted video mode
> (which meens the kernel booted, and the fbdev device is trying to take
> over the video output), but then nothing, which i believe means the kernel
> died in this step.
> 
> This is using the valkyrie fbdev driver. What is strange is that the same
> kernel when booted with bootx (or miboot) has absolutely no problem.

Erhm, what makes you think I know what's the problem? I have almost no
experience with `real' Macs.

> I won't have time in the next 2 weeks, but it would be interesting to get the
> early console info on the serial log. One thing is that at first it didn't
> work, and that it started working when i tried to redirect /dev/ttyS1 to the
> serial console, and added that option to miboot.

Serial console is definitely the way to go! You may want to hack
kernel/printk.c:printk() to call the serial output routine directly.

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Re: Has anybody recently done a Debian install on a playstation-3?

2010-02-18 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Julian Hernandez Gomez
>  wrote:
>   Hello Otavio,
> 
> The squeeze_di_alpha1 uses this installer; so it
> will give you same result.
> 
> 
> squeeze_di_alpha1 installation failed because it couldn't find the
> BD/DVD/CD-ROM unit.
> 
> 
> This was using a ps3? I don't know if there're different types of
> BD/DVD/CD-ROM units on it.

Even if there are different BD/DVD/CD-ROM units, it doesn't matter as they're
virtualized by the hypervisor. They're all using the ps3rom driver.

> Can you get an lspci of a running system, and a dmesg, for us to check if it
> is a missing module?

There's no (user-visible) PCI bus. All needed drivers are for the PS3 system
bus type, and they should be loaded fine (if present) by udev.

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Re: Has anybody recently done a Debian install on a playstation-3?

2010-02-18 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven
>  wrote:
> 
>   > Can you get an lspci of a running system, and a dmesg, for us
>   to check if it
>   > is a missing module?
> 
> There's no (user-visible) PCI bus. All needed drivers are for the PS3
> system
> bus type, and they should be loaded fine (if present) by udev.
> 
> 
> Perfect; do you know which module would be responsable for the CD/DVD
> device?

ps3rom.

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Bug#514055: debian still not working on PS3

2009-03-24 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Geoff Levand wrote:
> On 03/22/2009 10:45 AM, Geoff Levand wrote:
> > On 03/21/2009 10:38 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 04:40:51PM -0700, Geoff Levand wrote:
> >>> 1) At boot there were some kernel I/O errors about /dev/sr0.
> >> 
> >> That is the BD drive. Did you have a disc in the drive at that point?
> >> If so, what kind of disc?
> > 
> > The mini.iso installer, a CD-ROM.
> 
> Here are the messages.
> 
> Geert, any idea about them?
> 
> Mar 20 21:57:32 kernel: [5.399309] Driver 'sr' needs updating - please 
> use bus_type methods
> Mar 20 21:57:32 kernel: [5.426872] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 0x/0x cd/rw 
> xa/form2 cdda tray
> Mar 20 21:57:32 kernel: [5.433191] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
> Mar 20 21:57:32 kernel: [5.433678] sr 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
> Mar 20 21:57:32 kernel: [5.457911] sr 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 
> type 5
> ...
> Mar 20 21:57:32 kernel: [7.704702] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: 
> hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK
> Mar 20 21:57:32 kernel: [7.710429] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Medium 
> Error [current] 
   

> Mar 20 21:57:32 kernel: [7.716198] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: L-EC 
> uncorrectable error
   


Damaged CD? Is it dirty? Scratches? Can you read it somewhere else?

> Mar 20 21:57:32 kernel: [7.722110] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, 
> sector 45712
> Mar 20 21:57:32 kernel: [    7.727934] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, 
> logical block 11428

That's ca. 22 MiB inside the image. How large is mini.iso?

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Bug#514055: [Cbe-oss-dev] Bug#514055: debian still not working on PS3

2009-03-24 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Wartan Hachaturow wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven >> Mar 20
> 21:57:32 kernel: [    7.727934] Buffer I/O error on device sr0,
> logical block 11428
> >
> > That's ca. 22 MiB inside the image. How large is mini.iso?
> 
> 22 megs, that's just the installer.

I'm just wondering if this is beyond the end of the written image or not.

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Bug#514055: [Cbe-oss-dev] Bug#514055: debian still not working on PS3

2009-03-27 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:45:25AM -0700, Geoff Levand wrote:
> > On 03/21/2009 10:38 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > Hrm. Does the PS3 boot with yaboot? If so, you should have been able to
> > > select yaboot, and have it be installed to the system. That should also
> > > have created your yaboot.conf.
> > 
> > PS3 uses petitboot (http://ozlabs.org/~jk/projects/petitboot/).
> > It is a kexec based bootloader which can read kboot.conf and
> > yaboot.conf files.
> > 
> > Due to the way the PS3 boots, the user must install a bootloader
> > to flash memory before they can load a distro's installer.
> > 
> > I'll try the yaboot install and see what happens.  Is it possible
> > to arrange for the installer to just create the yaboot.conf
> > without installing yaboot?
> 
> No, that won't work. I simply wasn't aware of the particular way in
> which the PS3 is booted.
> 
> I see that petitboot is free software. In that case, we should be able
> to at least put it on the CD images.

Yes, it's free software. It's a Linux kernel with a small userland that kexecs
the chosen kernel image.

Note that you can do without a bootloader, and put your kernel directly in the
FLASH ROM, if it has the correct builtin command line to mount your root
file system. But a bootloader is more convenient.

> Is it possible to install or update the flash booter from Linux, or can
> one only do that from the PS3 builtin operating system?

You can install/update the bootloader from Linux, using
`ps3-flash-util -w '.

However, the initial install must be done under PS3 GameOS, as you need the
bootloader to boot Linux. GameOS looks for the file ps3/otheros/otheros.bld
on any of the storage devices. So if you would put it on the PowerPC install
CD, the users would have everything in one place.

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Bug#531600: busybox grep gives SEGV on ppc

2009-06-02 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Package: busybox-static
Version: 1:1.10.2-2

`busybox grep' crashes with a segmentation fault, on both ppc32 and ppc64:

| # busybox grep
| Segmentation fault
| # 

Backtrace (on ppc64):

| # gdb -args busybox grep
| GNU gdb 6.8-debian
| Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
| License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
| This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
| There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type "show copying"
| and "show warranty" for details.
| This GDB was configured as "powerpc-linux-gnu"...
| (no debugging symbols found)
| (gdb) run
| Starting program: /bin/busybox grep
| (no debugging symbols found)
| 
| Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
| 0x100c2778 in ?? ()
| (gdb) bt
| #0  0x100c2778 in ?? ()
| #1  0x100c2768 in ?? ()
| #2  0x10136fcc in ?? ()
| #3  0x100c2a3c in ?? ()
| #4  0x100c2a6c in ?? ()
| #5  0x100c2cf0 in ?? ()
| #6  0x100c2d7c in ?? ()
| #7  0x10019870 in ?? ()
| #8  0x10019a10 in ?? ()
| #9  0x in ?? ()
| (gdb) 

As the busybox binary is copied into the initramfs, this affects the creation
of initrds when installing a new kernel image.

The version in sid (1:1.13.3-1) doesn't seem to have this bug anymore.

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Re: PowePC sid_d-i daily builds are not happening...

2009-06-03 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Sun, 31 May 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 02:01:24PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> > On May 24, 2009, at 2:39 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> >
> >> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-i/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/
> >>
> >> says that "This build finished at Mon May 18 22:27:07 UTC 2009."
> >>
> >> That's almost a week ago.  I'd like to test a new sid installation on 
> >> one of my Macs but until this is fixed, I can't.  Any idea when it will 
> >> be working again?
> >
> > This has not changed in the last week.  It still says May 18th, 2009.
> >
> > What is wrong and what can we do to fix it?
> 
> Sorry, no idea what was wrong but just as I went to look at the logs
> of the last build the latest one just succeeded.

I gave the one from 2009-06-03 a try on PS3, and it's still missing some
required modules (ps3rom (CD/DVD/BD), ps3disk (HDD), ps3_gelic (Ethernet)) [1],
so I couldn't install it.

I did manage to install something using
http://people.debian.org/~wouter/d-i/powerpc/20090501-22:00/powerpc64/netboot/mini.iso

`Unfortunately' I decided to give encrypted LVM a try. As it didn't install a
kernel, initrd, and bootloader config [1], the install was rendered unbootable.

First I tried to fix it manually:
  - Set up decryption and LVM from NFS root, and mount the file system
  - chroot to the mounted file system
  - install busybox-static from sid, to get a working grep [2]
  - install linux-image-2.6.29-2-powerpc64, which creates the initrd
However, the initrd complains it cannot find the volume group, and drops into a
shell after a while. From there, I can setup decryption and LVM and mount the
file system manually, though. Am I missing some important step?

Second, I tried to boot mini.iso in rescue mode, but it didn't detect any
encrypted volumes, so I couldn't recover. IIRC, resuce mode worked fine when I
tried it on my laptop (amd64) with encrypted LVM ca. one year ago.

Perhaps there are other issues with encrypted LVM on ppc?

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=514055
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=531600

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