Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements

2023-10-30 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi,

Pascal Hambourg  wrote (Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:49:42 
+0200):
> On 06/08/2023 at 14:32, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > 
> > The doc probably just ended up wrong by just not getting updated,
> 
> In chapter 6.3.1.1. "Check available memory / low memory mode":
> 
> "If the installer runs in low memory mode, it is recommended to create a 
> relatively large swap partition (64–128MB)."

You are right.
I could change that into something like 1-2 GB.
One might think, this is still "relatively small" these days, but it's
always enough for the installer, so I think that would be ok.

> 
> These values are very low by today standards.
> Also, mentions of ext3 are outdated, I doubt anybody still uses it for 
> new installations.



Holger


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Re: Bug#1054615: [INTL:sv] Swedish strings for tasksel debconf

2023-10-30 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi,

Martin Bagge / brother  wrote (Thu, 26 Oct 2023 22:40:32 
+0200):
> package: tasksel
> severity: wishlist
> tags: patch l10n
> 
> Please consider to add this file to translation of debconf.

This file has already been updated ~1 month ago:
https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/tasksel/-/commit/e7a3e305fa67582e4a44a2e547976ceaa7725f3a


So closing this bug
Thanks anyway for your time


Holger


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Bug#1054615: marked as done ([INTL:sv] Swedish strings for tasksel debconf)

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package: tasksel
severity: wishlist
tags: patch l10n

Please consider to add this file to translation of debconf.
--
brother# Translation of tasksel debconf template to Swedish
# Copyright (C) 2023 Martin Bagge 
# This file is distributed under the same license as the tasksel package.
#
# Daniel Nylander , 2006
# Martin Bagge , 2023
msgid ""
msgstr ""
"Project-Id-Version: tasksel 2.07 debconf\n"
"Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: task...@packages.debian.org\n"
"POT-Creation-Date: 2018-05-23 01:37+0200\n"
"PO-Revision-Date: 2023-10-26 22:30+0200\n"
"Last-Translator: Martin Bagge / brother \n"
"Language-Team: Swedish \n"
"Language: sv\n"
"MIME-Version: 1.0\n"
"Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"
"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"

#. Type: multiselect
#. Description
#. Type: multiselect
#. Description
#: ../templates:1001 ../templates:2001
msgid "Choose software to install:"
msgstr "Välj programvara att installera:"

#. Type: multiselect
#. Description
#: ../templates:1001
msgid ""
"At the moment, only the core of the system is installed. To tune the system "
"to your needs, you can choose to install one or more of the following "
"predefined collections of software."
msgstr ""
"För närvarande är endast grunden av systemet installerat. För att anpassa "
"systemet efter dina behov kan du välja att installera en eller flera av "
"följande fördefinierade programvarusamlingar."

#. Type: multiselect
#. Description
#: ../templates:2001
msgid ""
"You can choose to install one or more of the following predefined "
"collections of software."
msgstr ""
"Du kan välja att installera en eller flera av följande fördefinierade "
"programvarusamlingar."

#. Type: multiselect
#. Description
#: ../templates:3001
msgid "This can be preseeded to override the default desktop."
msgstr ""
"Detta kan förkonfigureras för att ange annan skrivbordsmiljö som standard."

#. Type: title
#. Description
#: ../templates:4001
msgid "Software selection"
msgstr "Programvaruväljare"

#~ msgid "${ORIGCHOICES}"
#~ msgstr "${CHOICES}"

#~ msgid "${CHOICES}, manual package selection"
#~ msgstr "${CHOICES}, manuellt paketval"
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Hi,

Martin Bagge / brother  wrote (Thu, 26 Oct 2023 22:40:32 
+0200):
> package: tasksel
> severity: wishlist
> tags: patch l10n
> 
> Please consider to add this file to translation of debconf.

This file has already been updated ~1 month ago:
https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/tasksel/-/commit/e7a3e305fa67582e4a44a2e547976ceaa7725f3a


So closing this bug
Thanks anyway for your time


Holger


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Bug#837060: debootstrap: Do not install packages of Priority:required for buildd variant

2023-10-30 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Hi,

Quoting Luca Boccassi (2023-10-18 19:17:40)
> We can do an upload, but note that it won't have any effect on package
> builds, given the buildds use stable/oldstable

actually we forgot something here. The upload *does* have an effect on buildds
right now even before Trixie gets released because riscv buildds (in contrast
to the others) do run debootstrap from unstable, resulting in this recent build
failure of src:siridb-server:

https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=siridb-server&arch=riscv64&ver=2.0.48-1%2Bb1&stamp=1698686860&raw=0

This was reported already by Santiago as #1027381 last year and Paul Gevers
quickly did another upload of src:siridb-server fixing this.

So if riscv keeps being part of the release arches for trixie, then the FTBFS
bugs reported by Santiago will have real effects on buildds building packages
for riscv going forward. So unless that change gets reverted in debootstrap,
this class of bugs will likely go away by itself before trixie gets released.

Thanks!

cheers, josch

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Bug#837060: debootstrap: Do not install packages of Priority:required for buildd variant

2023-10-30 Thread Santiago Vila

El 30/10/23 a las 21:16, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues escribió:

Quoting Luca Boccassi (2023-10-18 19:17:40)

We can do an upload, but note that it won't have any effect on package
builds, given the buildds use stable/oldstable


actually we forgot something here. The upload *does* have an effect on buildds
right now even before Trixie gets released because riscv buildds (in contrast
to the others) do run debootstrap from unstable, resulting in this recent build
failure of src:siridb-server:

https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=siridb-server&arch=riscv64&ver=2.0.48-1%2Bb1&stamp=1698686860&raw=0

This was reported already by Santiago as #1027381 last year and Paul Gevers
quickly did another upload of src:siridb-server fixing this.

So if riscv keeps being part of the release arches for trixie, then the FTBFS
bugs reported by Santiago will have real effects on buildds building packages
for riscv going forward. So unless that change gets reverted in debootstrap,
this class of bugs will likely go away by itself before trixie gets released.


So, if I understood correctly, if a package has this bug, and it's already
reported, and the maintainer does a new upload but they forget to fix the bug,
then the package will FTBFS on riscv, and as a result, the package will not
propagate to testing.

This is actually a good thing, it means the bugs are "factually RC".

So, while I personally don't see a special hurry to raise the severities
of the currently reported bugs, maybe it makes sense that we start to
report *new* bugs like this one as serious.

Thanks.



Bug#837060: debootstrap: Do not install packages of Priority:required for buildd variant

2023-10-30 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Quoting Santiago Vila (2023-10-30 21:53:59)
> El 30/10/23 a las 21:16, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues escribió:
> > Quoting Luca Boccassi (2023-10-18 19:17:40)
> >> We can do an upload, but note that it won't have any effect on package
> >> builds, given the buildds use stable/oldstable
> > 
> > actually we forgot something here. The upload *does* have an effect on 
> > buildds
> > right now even before Trixie gets released because riscv buildds (in 
> > contrast
> > to the others) do run debootstrap from unstable, resulting in this recent 
> > build
> > failure of src:siridb-server:
> > 
> > https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=siridb-server&arch=riscv64&ver=2.0.48-1%2Bb1&stamp=1698686860&raw=0
> > 
> > This was reported already by Santiago as #1027381 last year and Paul Gevers
> > quickly did another upload of src:siridb-server fixing this.
> > 
> > So if riscv keeps being part of the release arches for trixie, then the 
> > FTBFS
> > bugs reported by Santiago will have real effects on buildds building 
> > packages
> > for riscv going forward. So unless that change gets reverted in debootstrap,
> > this class of bugs will likely go away by itself before trixie gets 
> > released.
> 
> So, if I understood correctly, if a package has this bug, and it's already
> reported, and the maintainer does a new upload but they forget to fix the bug,
> then the package will FTBFS on riscv, and as a result, the package will not
> propagate to testing.

this will of course also happen to packages that have the bug even if it's not
reported. Otherwise: yes.

> This is actually a good thing, it means the bugs are "factually RC".

I agree.

> So, while I personally don't see a special hurry to raise the severities of
> the currently reported bugs, maybe it makes sense that we start to report
> *new* bugs like this one as serious.

I think that would make sense, given that this currently blocks package
migration to testing due to factual build failures on riscv buildds.

In #debian-release, aurel32 asked about my opinion on whether those bugs should
now be raised to RC and I agreed that they should.

Thanks!

cheers, josch

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Re: Bug#1055016: override: tasksel-data:admin/optional

2023-10-30 Thread Daniel Lewart
FTP Team,

On Sun Oct 29, 2023, I reported:

> However, tasksel is still installed by default because of the following:
> $ apt-cache show tasksel-data | grep -E '^(Package|Depends|Priority)'
> Package: tasksel-data
> Depends: tasksel (= 3.73)
> Priority: important

> Please change tasksel-data from:
> admin/important
> to:
> admin/optional

Some more dependencies:
Package: tasksel-data
Depends: tasksel (= 3.73)
Recommends: laptop-detect
Priority: important

Package: laptop-detect
Recommends: dmidecode
Priority: optional

Package: dmidecode
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34)
Priority: important

So a side effect of not installing tasksel and tasksel-data by default
is that laptop-detect would not be installed either.

It's not clear to me why dmidecode is Priority: important,
but that's a discussion for another day.

Thank you!
Daniel Lewart
Urbana, Illinois