Bug#1034117: installation-reports: Debian testing installer doesn't prepare apt sources

[Julian Groß]

Package: installation-reports
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

installing the image linked below, doesn't set up the apt sources. 
/etc/apt/sources.list only contains the installation media and nothing else 
(not even comments).


Boot method: USB (ISO via Ventoy)
Image version: 
http://saimei.ftp.acc.umu.se/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso
  3th april 2023 was shown as the date
Date: 09th April 2023

Machine: 
Partitions: 


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [ ]
Detect network card:[ ]
Configure network:  [ ]
Detect media:   [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Clock/timezone setup:   [ ]
User/password setup:[ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install tasks:  [ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Overall install:[ ]


Please make sure that any installation logs that you think would
be useful are attached to this report. (You can find them in the
installer system in /var/log/ and later on the installed system
under /var/log/installer.) Please compress large files using gzip.


-- Package-specific info:

==
Installer lsb-release:
==
DISTRIB_ID=Debian
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Debian GNU/Linux installer"
DISTRIB_RELEASE="12 (bookworm) - installer build 20230403-00:01:36"
X_INSTALLATION_MEDIUM=cdrom

==
Installer hardware-summary:
==
uname -a: Linux Curser 6.1.0-7-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.20-1 
(2023-03-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux
lspci -knn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core 
Processor Family DRAM Controller [8086:0100] (rev 09)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 
[1462:7798]
lspci -knn: 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd 
Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port [8086:0101] (rev 09)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 
[1462:7798]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 
Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller [8086:1e31] (rev 04)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 
[1462:7798]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: xhci_pci
lspci -knn: 00:16.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation 7 
Series/C216 Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 [8086:1e3a] (rev 04)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 
[1462:7798]
lspci -knn: 00:1a.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C216 
Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 [8086:1e2d] (rev 04)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 
[1462:7798]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: ehci_pci
lspci -knn: 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C216 
Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1e20] (rev 04)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 
[1462:d798]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
lspci -knn: 00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C216 Chipset 
Family PCI Express Root Port 1 [8086:1e10] (rev c4)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 
[1462:7798]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:1c.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series 
Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 [8086:1e12] (rev c4)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 
[1462:7798]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C216 
Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 [8086:1e26] (rev 04)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 
[1462:7798]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: ehci_pci
lspci -knn: 00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge 
[8086:244e] (rev a4)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 
[1462:7798]
lspci -knn: 00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation B75 Express Chipset 
LPC Controller [8086:1e49] (rev 04)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 
[1462:7798]
lspci -knn: 00:1f.2 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 
Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [8086:1e02] (rev 04)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 
[1462:7798]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ahci
lspci -knn: Kernel m

Bug#1034117: (no subject)

[Julian Groß]

Turns out that this is an “assumption” problem and not a bug.

I assumed that the default behaviour would be to set up sources.
Turns out that the default behaviour of the installer is to *not* set up 
the sources, but only set up the installation media as a source.


Having the option for that seems sane, but shouldn't setting up network 
sources be the default selection?
It seems to me that 99% of the time, people will want apt to be able to 
get packages from outside the installation media.


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Re: Bug#1034117: (no subject)

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Sun, Apr 09, 2023 at 08:34:43PM +, Julian Groß wrote:
> Turns out that this is an “assumption” problem and not a bug.
> 
> I assumed that the default behaviour would be to set up sources.
> Turns out that the default behaviour of the installer is to *not* set up the
> sources, but only set up the installation media as a source.
> 
> Having the option for that seems sane, but shouldn't setting up network
> sources be the default selection?
> It seems to me that 99% of the time, people will want apt to be able to get
> packages from outside the installation media.

That does depend: if you set up from a DVD with no network, then that
may be the result. If you have a working network, then the installer
should offer you the option to include a network mirror.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy

Re: Streamlining d-i releases

[Joerg Jaspert]

On 16824 March 1977, Cyril Brulebois wrote:


I realize that getting a sudo line on fasolo would mean increasing the
security risks quite a bunch for a limited gain. Since we already have
a mechanism to trigger changes in the archive via release team access,
that is /srv/release.debian.org/www/proposed-updates/*_comments (which
we can edit from coccia); maybe something similar could be done to
trigger dak copy-installer?


I put SSH trigger into the room, instead of sudo. You supply the version
on the ssh cmdline, and if that exists in unstable, a copy-installer is
run with that version. Could even be extended to have source and target
suite selectable too.

--
bye, Joerg

Bug#1034117: installation-reports: Debian testing installer doesn't prepare apt sources

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hallo Julian,

Julian Groß  (2023-04-09):
> installing the image linked below, doesn't set up the apt sources.
> /etc/apt/sources.list only contains the installation media and nothing
> else (not even comments).

That's definitely not what's supposed to happen.

> Please make sure that any installation logs that you think would
> be useful are attached to this report. (You can find them in the
> installer system in /var/log/ and later on the installed system
> under /var/log/installer.) Please compress large files using gzip.

Please share /var/log/installer/syslog (compressed), as suggested by
this part of the installation report template.


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Re: Bug#1034117: (no subject)

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hi,

Andrew M.A. Cater  (2023-04-09):
> That does depend: if you set up from a DVD with no network, then that
> may be the result. If you have a working network, then the installer
> should offer you the option to include a network mirror.

That's a bug report, so both the submitter and the bug report should be
in recipients, as opposed to the mailing list.

(Rule of thumb: BTS = reply-all.)


Cheers,
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D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Re: Streamlining d-i releases

[Cyril Brulebois]

Joerg Jaspert  (2023-04-09):
> > I realize that getting a sudo line on fasolo would mean increasing the
> > security risks quite a bunch for a limited gain. Since we already have
> > a mechanism to trigger changes in the archive via release team access,
> > that is /srv/release.debian.org/www/proposed-updates/*_comments (which
> > we can edit from coccia); maybe something similar could be done to
> > trigger dak copy-installer?
> 
> I put SSH trigger into the room, instead of sudo. You supply the version
> on the ssh cmdline, and if that exists in unstable, a copy-installer is
> run with that version.

That looks very good to me, thanks!

> Could even be extended to have source and target suite selectable too.

I think we only released the installer via tpu once, at least that I
could confirm by checking my sent box:

dak copy-installer 20220917 -s bookworm-proposed-updates

but it could indeed be nice to be able to specify at least the source
suite, just in case we encounter some blocking bug in unstable again in
the future.


Cheers,
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D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Package: netcfg
Version: 1.184

With both the Bookworm alpha2 and rc1 netinstaller, I am prompted to confirm 
the preseeded hostname (also sent via DHCP), preventing unattended installation.
The very same preseed file did not show any such prompt neither in Buster nor 
Bullseye.

The prompt is pre-filled with the correct hostname (not the FQDN, just the 
hostname part), but of course this prevents unattended preseed installation.

Relevant logs follow, hostname and FQDN modified to examples.

Potentially relevant kernel commandline parameters:
netcfg/disable_dhcp=false ethdetect/prompt_missing_firmware=false 
hw-detect/load_firmware=false locale=en_US.UTF-8 hostname=laptop.example.com 
domain=example.com

Potentially relevant part of preseed file:
d-i ethdetect/prompt_missing_firmware boolean false
d-i netcfg/choose_interface select auto
d-i netcfg/get_hostname string laptop.exmaple.com
d-i netcfg/get_domain string example.com
d-i netcfg/wireless_wep string
d-i hw-detect/load_firmware boolean true


Relevant part of installer syslog:
Apr  6 16:56:31 netcfg[1051]: DEBUG: State is now 1
Apr  6 16:56:31 netcfg[1051]: DEBUG: State is now 2
Apr  6 16:56:31 netcfg[1051]: DEBUG: State is now 5
Apr  6 16:56:31 netcfg[1051]: INFO: DHCP hostname: "laptop.example.com"
Apr  6 16:56:31 netcfg[1051]: DEBUG: laptop.example.com is a valid FQDN
Apr  6 16:56:31 netcfg[1051]: DEBUG: We have a real FQDN
Apr  6 16:56:31 netcfg[1051]: DEBUG: Preseeding domain from global: example.com
< at this point, the prompt for the hostname is shown, pre-filled with "laptop" 
>
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Source: preseed
Source-Version: 1.115
Done: Cyril Brulebois 

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
preseed, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 1034...@bugs.debian.org,
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Package: preseed
Version: 1.113
Severity: normal
X-Debbugs-Cc: Salvatore Bonaccorso 

Filing this against preseed for visibility, after Salvatore Bonaccorso
reported that D-I Bookworm Alpha 1 was dealing with preseeding
hostname=foo just fine, and that it's no longer the case with D-I
Bookworm Alpha 2: the hostname question is asked, with either the
default value (“debian”) or a value determined from the DHCP hostname
(if any).

The relevant code didn't change on the installer side, but Linux
mainline got a relevant commit: 5a704629f2 (first released in v6.0-rc1):
  
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=5a704629f2c1ba33bbb444cb18e6957e97c76e8f

At first glance, a side effect is that the kernel seems to “eat” the
hostname=foo parameter instead of leaving it alone as it did in earlier
versions, possibly hiding it from the installer:

  -Unknown kernel command line parameters "--- BOOT_IMAGE=/install.amd/vmlinuz 
vga=788 hostname=miaou", will be passed to userspace
  +Unknown kernel command line parameters "--- BOOT_IMAGE=/install.amd/vmlinuz 
vga=788", will be passed to userspace


Now, parameters might be added before or after the '---' marker, and
moving hostname=foo from after to before this marker makes this issue go
away.

Checking the story behind that marker, i.e. debian-installer-utils
version 1.109 first published in jessie to fix #762007, I'm not sure
what to think about it… A cursory look at it suggests parameters found
after that marker should be visible to both the installer and the
kernel, but that's not the case here.

Looking at the user-space side, I'm still seeing “hostname=foo” at the
end of /proc/cmdline, but calling user-params only returns “quiet”, and
that's the case for both D-I Bookworm Alpha 1 and Alpha 2. Both images
have the same /etc/preseed_aliases, which dictates what user-params
does.


Adding DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer on the kernel command line, searching for
lines with “cdebconf” and “hostname”, the big difference is that line,
only in Alpha 1:

  debconf: Adding [ID] -> [netcfg/get_hostname]

It happens early in the boot process (at start-up), and that comes from
debconf's question_variable_add() function. Right after that, there's an
extra “frontend” line (not “cdebconf” this time) marking that question
as seen, which means the hostname prompt is skipped down the line.

Why the difference? The actual consequence of the Linux change is not in
/proc/cmdline or user-params or preseed, it's just just about early
start-up: /init is run without hostname=foo in its environment, which
explains why the debconf preseeding is no longer happening.


I'm not sure where to go from here though. Compensate for this change by
adding a special case for this parameter in env2debconf? The existing
code seems unfriendly enough as it is… maybe implement /proc/cmdline
lookup from netcfg instead? Not doing anything? All three options seem
suboptimal to me…


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois -- Debian Consultant @ DEBAMAX -- https://debamax.com/
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Source: preseed
Source-Version: 1.115
Done: Cyril Brulebois 

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
preseed, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 1031...@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

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Processed: Bug#834373 marked as pending in partman-efi

[Debian Bug Tracking System]

Processing control commands:

> tag -1 pending
Bug #834373 [partman-efi] UEFI: Fails to install to blank drive
Added tag(s) pending.

-- 
834373: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=834373
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Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems

Processed: Bug#1033913 marked as pending in partman-efi

[Debian Bug Tracking System]

Processing control commands:

> tag -1 pending
Bug #1033913 [partman-efi] partman-auto-lvm: Broken "Guided - use entire disk 
and set up LVM" in UEFI mode
Added tag(s) pending.

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1033913: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1033913
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Issues activated on the debian-installer project on salsa

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hi,

Since I haven't been able to find a reliable pad system over the last
few years, and since I don't quite like having pending issues in my head
or on local notes (only), I've followed zeha's nice suggestion, and
turned on issues on the debian-installer project. Then stashed the few
things that came up on IRC during the last few days:
  https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debian-installer/-/issues/1

Of course, the goal isn't to replace the Debian BTS. I intend to use
these issues to keep track of todolist-oriented things, like the things
we'd like to do before 12.0, but that could be used to keep track of
fixes we'd like to get into point releases:
  https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debian-installer/-/issues/2

Feel free to add points to those lists, maybe mentioning the reasoning
in comments if you feel the added points are not self-explanatory
enough.


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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