Bug#782574: installation-reports: d-i does not boot on beaglebone black

2015-04-16 Thread Ian Campbell
On Wed, 2015-04-15 at 23:39 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Karsten Merker  (2015-04-15):
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 06:42:57PM -0700, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
> > > Did some troubleshooting (far more than I expected, now I remember
> > > why I hadn't already done this for BBB), and came up with a patch
> > > for u-boot that makes it work with d-i by emulating some distro
> > > bootcmd variables (similar to the patch for wandboard), and a small
> > > patch to flash kernel to support the change in how the "bootpart"
> > > variable is used.
> 
> Since Karsten mentions both have to reach jessie in lockstep, I'm
> wondering whether there should be a Breaks: somewhere to avoid some
> breakages in case of a partial update.
> 
> > > I've tested that it boots the armhf daily hd-media installer and
> > > boots an installed system. I could upload a new version of u-boot if
> > > it's deemed worth it; otherwise we'll just need more complicated
> > > instructions for manually loading the installer on d-i. FWIW, The
> > > netboot media via tftp works without any changes.
> > > 
> > > If the user ever used u-boot's "saveenv" command, it may take
> > > considerable effort resetting the environment using "env default -a"
> > > followed by manually setting board_name, findfdt and/or fdtfile
> > > variables so that it detects the correct .dtb. I didn't have
> > > consistant success zeroing out the boot device, but in theory that
> > > should work too.
> > 
> > I had hoped to be able to spend some more time on the issue
> > today, but things didn't work out as planned and as things are
> > looking curently, I probably won't be able to dedicate time to it
> > tomorrow as well.
> > 
> > As the deadline for d-i-relevant changes is Friday, the question
> > is what to do now.  AFAICS due to the necessity to change the BBB
> > boot script in flash-kernel when the patch is applied to u-boot,
> > both flash-kernel and u-boot would have to enter Jessie in
> > lockstep.  As there is not enough time for regular migration to
> > Jessie, the release team would have to urgent both packages in
> > addition to an unblock to keep the deadline.  The involved DDs
> > are in vastly different timezones, which makes all this even more
> > problematic.  As stated above, I probably won't be able to take
> > care of flash-kernel in time, so unless Ian would like to handle
> > that, I do not see a a realistic chance to get this solved for
> > Jessie.
> > 
> > Ian, what is your take on the issue?
> 
> So I've been thinking about this for a while and I'm not too happy about
> possibly rushing these changes at this point. What could be considered
> instead is having these changes staged into unstable, let them migrate
> to testing/stretch when the freeze is lifted, and possibly backport them
> in to the jessie first point release. A workaround can be documented in
> the D-I Jessie RC3 errata.
> 
> Would that seem reasonable to all people involved?

Yes, IIRC from the thread the workaround is pretty simple, certainly in
comparison with the scope of the proposed changes.

Ian.


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Bug#782683: installation-reports: installing of GNU\Hurd with crosshurd, the package libparted0debian1 is not supported

2015-04-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: reassign -1 crosshurd

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Processed: Re: Bug#782683: installation-reports: installing of GNU\Hurd with crosshurd, the package libparted0debian1 is not supported

2015-04-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands:

> reassign -1 crosshurd
Bug #782683 [installation-reports] installation-reports: installing of GNU\Hurd 
with crosshurd, the package libparted0debian1 is not supported
Bug reassigned from package 'installation-reports' to 'crosshurd'.
Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #782683 to the same values 
previously set
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Re: Bug#782712: pre-upload unblock request: systemd/215-17 for RC bug #751707

2015-04-16 Thread Cyril Brulebois
(Cc: debian-boot@ added.)

Martin Pitt  (2015-04-16):
> Hello release team,

(With my d-i release manager hat.)

> yesterday I discovered that systemd breaks a common way of setting up
> plain cryptsetup partitions. Turns out that this has already been
> known for a while, but the impact wasn't appreciated enough:
> 
>   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751707
> 
> What happens is that systemd's cryptsetup integration ignores the
> "offset=" parameter in crypttab and instead uses the whole device. So
> if you had a swap or other partition underneath in order to identify
> the partition via UUID or label instead of an unreliable hardcoded
> device name, switching to systemd destroys the underlying metadata,
> and causes a boot hang as crypttab now refers to a nonexisting
> UUID/label. This is quite a common way to set up encrypted swap, the
> way that ecryptfs' own swap setup tool does it (the Ubuntu installer
> calls that if you select "encrypt my home directory"; I'm not sure
> whether Debian's installer does the same).

Grepping for hash= in partman-* d-i packages led to partman-crypto,
which seems responsible for this (no surprise here):
  
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/d-i/partman-crypto.git/tree/finish.d/crypto_config

There's no offset= there.

Looking into partman-* in Ubuntu vivid, it turns out that one of them
look at user-setup, and that's where the following is defined:
| Template: user-setup/encrypt-home
| Type: boolean
| Default: false
| # :sl2:
| _Description: Encrypt your home directory?
`---[ debian/user-setup-udeb.templates ]---

which is then used in user-setup-apply where there's a lot more
(encryption-related) code than in Debian, which e.g. calls adduser with
an option to encrypt home, which then calls some commands from the
ecryptfs-utils package, but I don't see any offset in the
ecryptfs-setup-private script.

Anyway, asking for home encryption indeed leads to swap encryption,
through a ecryptfs-setup-swap call, which in turn triggers:
|echo "cryptswap$i UUID=$uuid /dev/urandom 
swap,offset=1024,cipher=aes-xts-plain64" >> /etc/crypttab
`---[ src/utils/ecryptfs-setup-swap ]---

The same file in the Debian package has no offset, so I guess that means
Debian is rather safe.

> IMHO this qualifies as data loss, and we cannot repair this
> automatically after the damage happened. So I'd really like to fix
> this in jessie, and I upgraded it to RC.
> 
> The patch is quite straightforward. It got a first review by upstream,
> I made it a bit more defensive since the first version, and it'll
> probably land today. I attached my test script to the upstream bug [1]
> which allows you to play around with various offset= options and
> verify that it doesn't destroy the initial part of the partition.
> 
> I realize this is a somewhat awkward timing as we want to deep-freeze
> in two days, and this means an udeb change (although only formally as
> there are no effective changes in udev). 215-16 should go into testing
> tonight, and I'm prepared to upload 215-17 with that fix right after
> that with urgency=high.
> 
> What would you recommend how to proceed?

Provided a review by the release team, I'm OK with letting this go into
testing between D-I Jessie RC3 (to be released at the end of this week)
and a possible extra debian-installer upload (before the release).

I'm not exactly entirely sure how to deal with D-I for Jessie past RC3
anyway:
 - Do nothing?
 - BinNMU to make sure it's built against last-migrated components?
 - Sourceful upload in case there's any changes staged in git during the
   last week? (I hope that won't be necessary.)


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Re: Bug#782712: pre-upload unblock request: systemd/215-17 for RC bug #751707

2015-04-16 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Martin Pitt  (2015-04-16):
> Hello Cyril,
> 
> Cyril Brulebois [2015-04-16 19:40 +0200]:
> > Anyway, asking for home encryption indeed leads to swap encryption,
> > through a ecryptfs-setup-swap call, which in turn triggers:
> > |echo "cryptswap$i UUID=$uuid /dev/urandom 
> > swap,offset=1024,cipher=aes-xts-plain64" >> /etc/crypttab
> > `---[ src/utils/ecryptfs-setup-swap ]---
> > 
> > The same file in the Debian package has no offset, so I guess that means
> > Debian is rather safe.
> 
> Well, it actually means that it's even more broken :-( If you don't
> specify an offset at all, then you can only boot this system once.
> Then your partition will be overwritten with random data entirely, and
> the next time you won't have any matching UUID any more, and you again
> get a hanging boot (this affects sysvinit and upstart too). I. e. you
> will have exactly the same effect.
> 
> So to properly fix this, we need:
> 
>  (1) the fix to add the offset=:
>  https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ecryptfs/ecryptfs/trunk/revision/840
> 
>  (Updating the used cipher would also be a good idea, but not
>  essential)
> 
>  This fix alone is sufficient under sysvinit and upstart.
> 
>  (2) this systemd fix to actually respect offset= when booting under
>  systemd.

Huh? Last I checked, guided encrypted LVM just works…

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Re: Bug#782712: pre-upload unblock request: systemd/215-17 for RC bug #751707

2015-04-16 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello Cyril,

Cyril Brulebois [2015-04-16 19:40 +0200]:
> Anyway, asking for home encryption indeed leads to swap encryption,
> through a ecryptfs-setup-swap call, which in turn triggers:
> |echo "cryptswap$i UUID=$uuid /dev/urandom 
> swap,offset=1024,cipher=aes-xts-plain64" >> /etc/crypttab
> `---[ src/utils/ecryptfs-setup-swap ]---
> 
> The same file in the Debian package has no offset, so I guess that means
> Debian is rather safe.

Well, it actually means that it's even more broken :-( If you don't
specify an offset at all, then you can only boot this system once.
Then your partition will be overwritten with random data entirely, and
the next time you won't have any matching UUID any more, and you again
get a hanging boot (this affects sysvinit and upstart too). I. e. you
will have exactly the same effect.

So to properly fix this, we need:

 (1) the fix to add the offset=:
 https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ecryptfs/ecryptfs/trunk/revision/840

 (Updating the used cipher would also be a good idea, but not
 essential)

 This fix alone is sufficient under sysvinit and upstart.

 (2) this systemd fix to actually respect offset= when booting under
 systemd.

Thanks,

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Bug#782731: debian-installer: hangs after network configuration with dhcpv6

2015-04-16 Thread Christoph Martin


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Version: debian-jessie-DI-rc2-amd64-netinst.iso
Severity: important

Dear Maintainer,

the installation hung indefinitely with a blue screen after dhcp 
configuration

of ipv6 and ipv4.

Analyzing the situation showed that dhcp6c was the blocking process.

After killing that process, installation proceeded without a problem.

I found this problem with several machines with rc1 and rc2 installer.

Yours
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Bug#782731: marked as done (debian-installer: hangs after network configuration with dhcpv6)

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Package: debian-installer
Version: debian-jessie-DI-rc2-amd64-netinst.iso
Severity: important

Dear Maintainer,

the installation hung indefinitely with a blue screen after dhcp 
configuration

of ipv6 and ipv4.

Analyzing the situation showed that dhcp6c was the blocking process.

After killing that process, installation proceeded without a problem.

I found this problem with several machines with rc1 and rc2 installer.

Yours
Christoph

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Hi Christoph,

Christoph Martin  (2015-04-16):
> Package: debian-installer
> Version: debian-jessie-DI-rc2-amd64-netinst.iso
> Severity: important
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> the installation hung indefinitely with a blue screen after dhcp
> configuration
> of ipv6 and ipv4.
> 
> Analyzing the situation showed that dhcp6c was the blocking process.
> 
> After killing that process, installation proceeded without a problem.
> 
> I found this problem with several machines with rc1 and rc2 installer.

This is indeed a known issue, documented on the errata page:
  https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata


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Re: Bug#782712: pre-upload unblock request: systemd/215-17 for RC bug #751707

2015-04-16 Thread Martin Pitt
Cyril Brulebois [2015-04-16 22:05 +0200]:
> Huh? Last I checked, guided encrypted LVM just works…

Yes, that's fine -- this creates an encrypted PV which then contains
unencrypted root, swap, and home partitions. This error happens if you
don't encrypt the full disk (with cryptsetup/LUKS), but just encrypt
your home directory (with ecryptfs). The latter will create an
encrypted swap partition with a random key, otherwise you'd find part
of your /home data in your swap partition.

Martin

P. S.  Swap partitions, will you please just die. Most systems don't
need them any more, and those who do are better of with the
"swapspace" package or similar. But that's waay out of reach for
Jessie :-)

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Re: Bug#782712: pre-upload unblock request: systemd/215-17 for RC bug #751707

2015-04-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:05:17PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Martin Pitt  (2015-04-16):
> > Hello Cyril,
> > 
> > Cyril Brulebois [2015-04-16 19:40 +0200]:
> > > Anyway, asking for home encryption indeed leads to swap encryption,
> > > through a ecryptfs-setup-swap call, which in turn triggers:
> > > |echo "cryptswap$i UUID=$uuid /dev/urandom 
> > > swap,offset=1024,cipher=aes-xts-plain64" >> /etc/crypttab
> > > `---[ src/utils/ecryptfs-setup-swap ]---
> > > 
> > > The same file in the Debian package has no offset, so I guess that means
> > > Debian is rather safe.
> > 
> > Well, it actually means that it's even more broken :-( If you don't
> > specify an offset at all, then you can only boot this system once.
> > Then your partition will be overwritten with random data entirely, and
> > the next time you won't have any matching UUID any more, and you again
> > get a hanging boot (this affects sysvinit and upstart too). I. e. you
> > will have exactly the same effect.
> > 
> > So to properly fix this, we need:
> > 
> >  (1) the fix to add the offset=:
> >  https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ecryptfs/ecryptfs/trunk/revision/840
> > 
> >  (Updating the used cipher would also be a good idea, but not
> >  essential)
> > 
> >  This fix alone is sufficient under sysvinit and upstart.
> > 
> >  (2) this systemd fix to actually respect offset= when booting under
> >  systemd.
> 
> Huh? Last I checked, guided encrypted LVM just works…

Worked for me about a month ago.

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Bug#782574: installation-reports: d-i does not boot on beaglebone black

2015-04-16 Thread François-Régis
Le 16/04/2015 09:20, Ian Campbell a écrit :
> On Wed, 2015-04-15 at 23:39 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
>> Karsten Merker  (2015-04-15):
>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 06:42:57PM -0700, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
 Did some troubleshooting (far more than I expected, now I remember
 why I hadn't already done this for BBB), and came up with a patch
 for u-boot that makes it work with d-i by emulating some distro
 bootcmd variables (similar to the patch for wandboard), and a small
 patch to flash kernel to support the change in how the "bootpart"
 variable is used.
>>
>> Since Karsten mentions both have to reach jessie in lockstep, I'm
>> wondering whether there should be a Breaks: somewhere to avoid some
>> breakages in case of a partial update.
>>
 I've tested that it boots the armhf daily hd-media installer and
 boots an installed system. I could upload a new version of u-boot if
 it's deemed worth it; otherwise we'll just need more complicated
 instructions for manually loading the installer on d-i. FWIW, The
 netboot media via tftp works without any changes.

 If the user ever used u-boot's "saveenv" command, it may take
 considerable effort resetting the environment using "env default -a"
 followed by manually setting board_name, findfdt and/or fdtfile
 variables so that it detects the correct .dtb. I didn't have
 consistant success zeroing out the boot device, but in theory that
 should work too.
>>>
>>> I had hoped to be able to spend some more time on the issue
>>> today, but things didn't work out as planned and as things are
>>> looking curently, I probably won't be able to dedicate time to it
>>> tomorrow as well.
>>>
>>> As the deadline for d-i-relevant changes is Friday, the question
>>> is what to do now.  AFAICS due to the necessity to change the BBB
>>> boot script in flash-kernel when the patch is applied to u-boot,
>>> both flash-kernel and u-boot would have to enter Jessie in
>>> lockstep.  As there is not enough time for regular migration to
>>> Jessie, the release team would have to urgent both packages in
>>> addition to an unblock to keep the deadline.  The involved DDs
>>> are in vastly different timezones, which makes all this even more
>>> problematic.  As stated above, I probably won't be able to take
>>> care of flash-kernel in time, so unless Ian would like to handle
>>> that, I do not see a a realistic chance to get this solved for
>>> Jessie.
>>>
>>> Ian, what is your take on the issue?
>>
>> So I've been thinking about this for a while and I'm not too happy about
>> possibly rushing these changes at this point. What could be considered
>> instead is having these changes staged into unstable, let them migrate
>> to testing/stretch when the freeze is lifted, and possibly backport them
>> in to the jessie first point release. A workaround can be documented in
>> the D-I Jessie RC3 errata.
>>
>> Would that seem reasonable to all people involved?
> 
> Yes, IIRC from the thread the workaround is pretty simple, certainly in
> comparison with the scope of the proposed changes.

As far as I'm involved, I comfirm that the workaround is simple and
could easily be documented.

If needed, I could help documenting the it.

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Bug#782673: installation-guide: doesn't notice errors within the for loop

2015-04-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + pending

Cyril Brulebois, le Thu 16 Apr 2015 00:47:28 +0200, a écrit :
> Samuel mentioned errors aren't recorded in the for loop, and have that
> bug report on his todolist.

Ok, it wasn't in the for loop, but close enough :), it was indeed the
move of the code to the Makefile, I forgot to also include the set -e
from the beginning of build.sh, now fixed.

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Please avoid trivial changes in the manual

2015-04-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Thanks a lot for helping with the installation manual, but please
understand that the more changes we make in the manual, the less
translated it will be.  Very recently we added documentation for ppc64el
and arm64, and while it'd have been better to add them earlier so they
get a chance to get translated, it's strictly better than nothing to
add them late.  Changes to existing documentation are often however
actually *worse* than nothing, since unless translators have the
time to translate the changes, those part of the manual will become
untranslated! (for po translations, i.e. almost all).

So when doing changes, please consider that.

Some changes such as command lines, device names etc. can actually be
easily applied in all languages, so it is fine to do it *provided that
you do the propagation of the change in all languages yourself*.  If you
don't propagate the changes to all languages, there is a quite strong
chance that the translators will not have the time to do the propagation
before the release. Also, doing the change in all languages at the same
time is way easier than for a translator to figure out what small thing
has changed and unfuzzy po files after they have been fmtmerged... The
more we do things like this, the more tired translators become, and the
less translated our manual gets, and the less users will read it.

If somebody could take the time to unfuzzy the u-boot -> U-Boot change,
that'd be very helpful for languages which already have a translation.

Thanks again for considering,
Samuel


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Re: Bug#780573: release-notes: Review from the d-i team

2015-04-16 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2015-04-11 08:07, Baptiste Jammet wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> Dixit Niels Thykier, le 16/03/2015 :
> 
>> I am contacting you to do a final review of the release-notes for the
>> d-i related topics (as listed on [1]):
> 
> Here are some items I think it's important to highlight, taken from d-i
> release announces.
> I tried to clean the page a bit and mark some old stuff as wheezy.
> Please review because I'm not a native english, and I surely forgot
> some important changes.
> 
> Baptiste
> 
> P.S. diff against installing.dbk r10511
> 

Thanks, I have applied the patch mostly as-is (though dropping most of
the Wheezy-only items) and followed up with a new patch on top.

I tried to ask in #debian-i18n about the new languages, but so far no
one has replied me.  I am a bit overbooked,  so if any you have time to
follow on that, then I would greatly appreciate it.

If there are further changes, please by all means let me know.

Thanks,
~Niels



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