Re: low memory requirements in the d-i manual
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Holger Wansing, le Sun 26 May 2013 14:02:19 +0200, a écrit : > > You must have at least &minimum-memory; of memory > > -->%- > > which expands to 80MB ATM. > > > > But Chapter 3.4 contains: > > ---%< > > Recommended Minimum System Requirements > > > > > > > > Install Type > > RAM (minimal) > > RAM (recommended) > > Hard Drive > > > > > > > > > > > > No desktop > > 64 megabytes > > 256 megabytes > > 1 gigabyte > > > > With Desktop > > 128 megabytes > > 512 megabytes > > 5 gigabytes > > -->%- > > So a minimum of 64MB for console-only installs. > > But that is not enough for a successful installation, as Ferenc wrote. > > > > OK for me to change the 64MB into 80MB as well ? > > Well, these are the installed system requirement actually, not the > installation requirement. That's not exactly clear: "..., check that your hardware will let you do the type of installation that you want to do. " > We can probably simply put &minimum_memory; > to make sure it is up to date, but the other values probably need > updating too. I don't think one can reasonably work graphicall with just > 512MiB nowadays :/ This mostly depends on which graphical environment is used. I assume that xfce4 works fine with 512MB, at least at default configuration without adding tons of additional apps to the panel etc. But at the end, you are right. Eventually we could be done with the double of the old values: Desktop minimal requirements: 128MB -> 256MB Desktop recommended: 512MB -> 1GB ? Holger -- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Created with Sylpheed 3.0.2 under D e b i a n G N U / L I N U X 6.0 ( S q u e e z e ) Registered LinuxUser #311290 - http://linuxcounter.net/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130527110735.6e633bbf.li...@wansing-online.de
Re: Bug#709004: www.debian.org: Please mention win32-loader on "Getting Debian" webpage
Hi, David Prévot wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi, > > Le 26/05/2013 17:14, Holger Wansing a écrit : > > [ CC'ing debian-boot as well, it's most likely of interest for them, too ] > > > Here is the patch now (I have put it into www.debian.org/distrib now instead > > of http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/debian-installer ). > > I’m not sure that’s the kind of option we want to push on (what is > supposed to be(come)) our main (and short) page of ways to get Debian. > The debian-installer page seemed like a better (initial) place to advert it. Yes, this was my first thought, too. But on the debian-installer page, we also don't have the live images listed for example. While on the distrib page, they are listed. So the distrib seems a bit more generic IMHO and therefore I thought it fits for the win32 installation method as well. Holger -- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Created with Sylpheed 3.0.2 under D e b i a n G N U / L I N U X 6.0 ( S q u e e z e ) Registered LinuxUser #311290 - http://linuxcounter.net/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130527111649.085b07cc.li...@wansing-online.de
Re: low memory requirements in the d-i manual
Holger Wansing, le Mon 27 May 2013 11:07:35 +0200, a écrit : > Eventually we could be done with the double of the old values: > Desktop minimal requirements: 128MB -> 256MB > Desktop recommended: 512MB -> 1GB That's what I was thinking, yes. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130527102143.gv6...@type.bordeaux.inria.fr
Re: preseeding de-latin1-nodeadkeys
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:32:15AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > I guess this is due to changes in the keyboard-configuration config > script. Anton, could you have a look? This is what was preseeded: > > keyboard-configuration keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap select de > keyboard-configuration keyboard-configuration/variant select German - > German (eliminate dead keys) > keyboard-configuration keyboard-configuration/variantcode string > nodeadkeys > > I guess it could rather have to be > > keyboard-configuration keyboard-configuration/layout select Germany > keyboard-configuration keyboard-configuration/variant select German - > German (eliminate dead keys) > > which are the two questions I actually see asked when running > dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration. While I was preparing version 1.90 I didn't like how the preceeding worked in c-s. However I decided the changes I wanted to do are not appropriate before the release of the new stable Debian, so I postponed them. What I did is a code that simply emulated the old behaviour. Regarding the use of different preseeding values for d-i and for keyboard-configuration - I must admit it didn't occur to me that this can be an useful feature so this is not supported by the current code. Anton Zinoviev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130527104227.ga17...@logic.fmi.uni-sofia.bg
Processed: Re: Bug#709883: keyboard-configuration: X keyboard configuration lost after upgrade
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 709883 xkb-data Bug #709883 [keyboard-configuration] keyboard-configuration: X keyboard configuration lost after upgrade Bug reassigned from package 'keyboard-configuration' to 'xkb-data'. No longer marked as found in versions console-setup/1.93. Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #709883 to the same values previously set > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 709883: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709883 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/handler.s.c.13696539087353.transcr...@bugs.debian.org
Processed: Re: Bug#709883: keyboard-configuration: X keyboard configuration lost after upgrade
Processing control commands: > reassign -1 keyboard-configuration Bug #709883 [xkb-data] keyboard-configuration: X keyboard configuration lost after upgrade Bug reassigned from package 'xkb-data' to 'keyboard-configuration'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #709883 to the same values previously set Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #709883 to the same values previously set -- 709883: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709883 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/handler.s.b709883.136966200824843.transcr...@bugs.debian.org
Bug#709843: Partition PBR must always have an OS bootloader (grub)
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 12:35:33AM +0200, André Pirard wrote: > Package: debian-installer > > Short, practical, typical story: Mr X followed good advices. > - He installed the so nice and easy to understand GAG multi-boot > - He installed the so nice Debian system or derivative > He followed the "normal", by default installation options and Debian > wiped out GAG. > He reinstalled GAG but he could not configure it to boot Debian. > He found dozens and dozens of even worse horror stories: many people had > lost access to their running Debian system after many hours of service. > > Conclusion #1 : a partition containing a Debian (or any) system MUST > ALWAYS contain an OS bootloader (Grub) activated by loading the PBR even > if (in addition to) another means to boot Debian is initially used, so that: > - Debian booting can be restored by normal booting methods and tools > - Debian can continue to boot if the partition is copied (to another drive) > - etc. Not all filesystems allow that. Of course you are allowed to create a dedicated partition for the bootloader, mount it as /boot/grub and flag it bootable and install grub there. Of course UEFI systems booted in UEFI mode would already use a dedicated boot partition for the boot loaders. > Conclusion #2: installing the Grub OS bootloader on the MBR is a bad > idea: one cannot have each kind of systems on a disk install its own > different OS bootloader on the same MBR and erase the others. > If multi-boot or booting a logical partition is needed, an independent, > graphical and easy to use program like GAG is ideal. > The Debian liveCD should have an option to install one or repair it (in > start menu or during installation). > The only hindrance of GAG is that is must be configured by moving icons > to its main window before working. > It would be much easier if the main window were pre-populated with all > icons for every partitions, with options to modify an icon, erase it, > reorder it or move it aside (test boot, reset PC, configure and save > what has just been tested, loop) For most users it is the best place for a boot loader. Most OSs you can install do this. Debian asks if you want to install to the MBR. Windows just does it. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130527171550.gl11...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Bug#709883: keyboard-configuration: X keyboard configuration lost after upgrade
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 03:40:04PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > Control: reassign -1 keyboard-configuration > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 13:54:07 +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > > > reassign 709883 xkb-data > > thanks > > > No, you don't get to reassign bugs to other people's packages without > explanation. Hmm... What should I explain? According to the submitter the contents of /etc/default/keyboard is correct. Or maybe you mean I had to reassign the bug to some other X package? Anton Zinoviev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130527200039.ga26...@debian.lan
Bug#709883: keyboard-configuration: X keyboard configuration lost after upgrade
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 23:00:39 +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 03:40:04PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > Control: reassign -1 keyboard-configuration > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 13:54:07 +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > > > > > reassign 709883 xkb-data > > > thanks > > > > > No, you don't get to reassign bugs to other people's packages without > > explanation. > > Hmm... What should I explain? According to the submitter the contents > of /etc/default/keyboard is correct. Or maybe you mean I had to > reassign the bug to some other X package? > debian-x didn't get anything from the submitter, all we have is https://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2013/05/msg00431.html which doesn't explain why you think it's an xkb-data bug. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#709843: Partition PBR must always have an OS bootloader (grub)
On Mon, 27 May 2013 13:15:50 -0400 "Lennart Sorensen" wrote: [...] > Debian asks if you want to install to the MBR. DI asks if you want to install grub into the MBR of the disk or a partition, and if you select to install it into your Linux partition, it tells you that tis is a bad idea and refuses to do it :-( Herbert -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130527231543.3e790c84@max
Debian installer build: failed or old builds
Debian installer build overview --- Failed or old builds: * FAILED BUILD: amd64 May 28 00:03 buildd@barber build_cdrom_isolinux http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/build_cdrom_isolinux.log * FAILED BUILD: amd64 May 28 00:03 buildd@barber build_cdrom_gtk http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/build_cdrom_gtk.log * FAILED BUILD: amd64 May 28 00:03 buildd@barber build_cdrom-xen http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/build_cdrom-xen.log * FAILED BUILD: amd64 May 28 00:05 buildd@barber build_netboot-gtk http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/build_netboot-gtk.log * FAILED BUILD: amd64 May 28 00:05 buildd@barber build_netboot-xen http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/build_netboot-xen.log * FAILED BUILD: amd64 May 28 00:05 buildd@barber build_hd-media http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/build_hd-media.log * FAILED BUILD: amd64 May 28 00:06 buildd@barber build_hd-media_gtk http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/build_hd-media_gtk.log * FAILED BUILD: armel May 27 08:22 buildd@ancina build_kirkwood_netboot-gtk http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/armel/daily/build_kirkwood_netboot-gtk.log * OLD BUILD:armhf May 19 09:38 buildd@hasse build_mx5_netboot http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/armhf/daily/build_mx5_netboot.log * FAILED BUILD: armhf May 19 09:38 buildd@hasse build_mx5_netboot http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/armhf/daily/build_mx5_netboot.log * OLD BUILD:armhf May 19 09:38 buildd@hasse build_mx5_network-console http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/armhf/daily/build_mx5_network-console.log * FAILED BUILD: armhf May 19 09:38 buildd@hasse build_mx5_network-console http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/armhf/daily/build_mx5_network-console.log * OLD BUILD:armhf May 19 09:39 buildd@hasse build_mx5_netboot-gtk http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/armhf/daily/build_mx5_netboot-gtk.log * FAILED BUILD: armhf May 19 09:39 buildd@hasse build_mx5_netboot-gtk http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/armhf/daily/build_mx5_netboot-gtk.log * OLD BUILD:armhf May 19 09:39 buildd@hasse build_vexpress_netboot http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/armhf/daily/build_vexpress_netboot.log * FAILED BUILD: armhf May 19 09:39 buildd@hasse build_vexpress_netboot http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/armhf/daily/build_vexpress_netboot.log * FAILED BUILD: i386 May 28 00:04 buildd@biber build_cdrom_isolinux http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/i386/daily/build_cdrom_isolinux.log * FAILED BUILD: i386 May 28 00:04 buildd@biber build_cdrom_gtk http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/i386/daily/build_cdrom_gtk.log * FAILED BUILD: i386 May 28 00:04 buildd@biber build_cdrom-xen http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/i386/daily/build_cdrom-xen.log * FAILED BUILD: i386 May 28 00:06 buildd@biber build_netboot-gtk http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/i386/daily/build_netboot-gtk.log * FAILED BUILD: i386 May 28 00:07 buildd@biber build_netboot-xen http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/i386/daily/build_netboot-xen.log * FAILED BUILD: i386 May 28 00:07 buildd@biber build_hd-media http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/i386/daily/build_hd-media.log * FAILED BUILD: i386 May 28 00:07 buildd@biber build_hd-media_gtk http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/i386/daily/build_hd-media_gtk.log * OLD BUILD:ia64 May 26 00:12 buildd@alkman build_cdrom http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/ia64/daily/build_cdrom.log * OLD BUILD:ia64 May 26 00:16 buildd@alkman build_netboot http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/ia64/daily/build_netboot.log * OLD BUILD:kfreebsd-amd64 May 08 00:55 buildd@fano build_cdrom_grub http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/kfreebsd-amd64/daily/build_cdrom_grub.log * OLD BUILD:kfreebsd-amd64 May 08 00:55 buildd@fano build_cdrom_gtk http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/kfreebsd-amd64/daily/build_cdrom_gtk.log * OLD BUILD:kfreebsd-amd64 May 08 00:58 buildd@fano build_netboot http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/kfreebsd-amd64/daily/build_netboot.log * OLD BUILD:kfreebsd-amd64 May 08 01:01 buildd@fano build_netboot-9 http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/kfreebsd-amd64/daily/build_netboot-9.log * OLD BUILD:kfreebsd-amd64 May 08 01:06 buildd@fano build_netboot-gtk http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/kfreebsd-amd64/daily/build_netboot-gtk.log * OLD BUILD:kfreebsd-amd64 May 08 01:11 buildd@fano build_netboot-gtk-9 http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/kfreebsd-amd64/daily/build_netboot-gtk-9.log * OLD
