Bug#587928: quik-installer: fails to detect ext2 boot partition

2010-07-17 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Vagrant Cascadian (vagr...@freegeek.org):
> here's the diff for the uploaded NMU:

Thanks. It's committed to SVN now.




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New strings in Debian Installer sublevels 1 to 3

2010-07-17 Thread Christian PERRIER
Now that l10n updates and uploads happened in preparation of Debian
Installer squeeze beta 1 release, I could add two new packages to the
list of packages which templates are aggregated together in Debian
Installer PO files: partmand-btrfs and partman-ufs

These packages' strings are very similar to strings used in other
partman-* packages, so most new strings are already pre-filled for many
languages and just need minor updates to be complete again.

There is no strict deadline to complete this, but I would urge D-I
translators to do the update when possible. I really dream of D-I
releases where I wouldn't have to prod late comers..:-)

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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Daniel Richard G.]
> Of course; it is attached.
> 
> Looking at that, it doesn't appear that cron is responsible for pulling
> in exim4*; cron is installed much earlier in the process. heirloom-mailx
> is installed at the same time as exim4*, but that one only Suggests:
> exim4. It seems possible that d-i is installing exim4 explicitly.

This is the point where exim is pulled in:

Jul 15 18:27:55 in-target: The following NEW packages will be installed:
Jul 15 18:27:55 in-target:   exim4 exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light 
heirloom-mailx libgcrypt11
Jul 15 18:27:55 in-target:   libgnutls26 libgpg-error0 libgssapi-krb5-2 
libk5crypto3 libkeyutils1
Jul 15 18:27:55 in-target:   libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 libpcre3 
popularity-contest psmisc

The exim4 package is installed when popularity-contest is installed,
while it is not removed when popularity-contest is purged.  I suspect
exim4 stay because it is the recommends of other packages (cron?).
The popularity-contest recommend look ike this:

  Recommends: cron | fcron, exim4 | mail-transport-agent

The obvious fix is to change popularity-contest to suggest instead of
recommend, to avoid pulling in a MTA when popularity-contest is
installed.  Cc to the maintainer list to see if that is an interesting
alternative.

An alternative would be to change pkgsel/pre-pkgsel.d/90popcon to not
install recommended packages.  Looking at the svn source, this seem to
have be the current setting in svn since 2009-12-24 (uploaded as
version 0.27).  Not convinced it is a good idea to not install
recommended packages by default in d-i, thought, and suspect it is
better to change the recommends for popularity-contest.

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Bug#589379: Unable to install Ubuntu because old LVM pvolume appear after automatic partitioning

2010-07-17 Thread Марк Коренберг
Package: debian-installer? partman-* ? don't know
Version: Ubuntu 10.04 installer.

I send this bug-report to you, as the partman-auto package maintained
by debian bug tracker (https://launchpad.net/partman-auto)

I Unable to install Ubuntu 10.04 server because old LVM pvolume appear
after automatic partitioning.

How to reproduce:
1. Install Ubuntu to automatic LVM partitions
2. On other computer, just overwrite DOS partition table with another
one, or just clear it.
3. Try to install Ubuntu again. After automatic partitioning it will
see LVM partitions created on step 1! But it will try to issue
pvcreate which fail due to existing logical volumes.



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Daniel Richard G.
On Sat, 2010 Jul 17 09:56+0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>
> The obvious fix is to change popularity-contest to suggest instead of
> recommend, to avoid pulling in a MTA when popularity-contest is
> installed.  Cc to the maintainer list to see if that is an interesting
> alternative.

Hunh. I wasn't aware that popcon could submit reports via e-mail in
addition to HTTP.

Recommending an MTA in light of that doesn't seem unreasonable, in the
abstract. But given that an MTA is useless for popcon's purposes if it
is not configured, and that HTTP submission has a good chance of working
"out of the box," I'm inclined to think downgrading that to a suggestion
would be sensible.

> An alternative would be to change pkgsel/pre-pkgsel.d/90popcon to not
> install recommended packages.  Looking at the svn source, this seem to
> have be the current setting in svn since 2009-12-24 (uploaded as
> version 0.27).  Not convinced it is a good idea to not install
> recommended packages by default in d-i, thought, and suspect it is
> better to change the recommends for popularity-contest.

Yes, I see that... what is it now, the --no-recommends switch is broken?

What source package do these files go into, anyway? Google pointed me to
the d-i.alioth.debian.org site, but if I do "apt-get source debian-
installer", there's nothing like this in there. (I'd like to verify that
the current installer is using the same revision of this script we're
seeing in SVN.)



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Bug#589213: marked as done (Do not install Exim in minimal system)

2010-07-17 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Package: debian-installer
Version: 20100211+b1

(Note: I'm not sure that d-i is the correct package for this bug; please
reassign if needed.)

I want to install a minimal Debian/squeeze system. When the installer
presents the tasksel screen, I unselect everything, even "Standard
system utilities". Yet when the install is finished, I see that a
complete exim4 installation is present, and running. This is, to say the
least, inappropriate for a minimal install.

I found a couple of discussion threads referencing this issue:

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=49816

http://www.pubbs.net/201003/debian/1016-fresh-debian-install-wo-exim.html

>From the looks of it, exim4 is installed because of a Recommends: by the
cron package:

Recommends: exim4 | postfix | mail-transport-agent, lockfile-progs

I believe the right thing to do would be to include in the base install
a minimal, non-daemon-ized, "dumb" MTA capable only of forwarding and
local delivery, to satisfy the mail-transport-agent dependency.
(Forwarding won't work out of the box, obviously, but for cron and other
system facilities, local delivery is all that matters anyway.)

It would make sense to install Exim if the user selects the "Mail
server" task, or perhaps even "Standard system utilities".


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--- Begin Message ---
On Saturday 17 July 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> The obvious fix is to change popularity-contest to suggest instead of
> recommend, to avoid pulling in a MTA when popularity-contest is
> installed.  Cc to the maintainer list to see if that is an interesting
> alternative.

It's only obvious if there is no good reason to have exim4 as a Recommends 
for popcon. IMO the Recommends fits the policy requirements in this case.

> An alternative would be to change pkgsel/pre-pkgsel.d/90popcon to not
> install recommended packages.  Looking at the svn source, this seem to
> have be the current setting in svn since 2009-12-24 (uploaded as
> version 0.27).

So the issue is already fixed in daily built images.

> Not convinced it is a good idea to not install 
> recommended packages by default in d-i, thought, and suspect it is
> better to change the recommends for popularity-contest.

Recommended packages *are* installed by default. We're just making an 
exception in this case as discussed in [1].

Given that the issue is already resolved, I'm closing this report. There is 
no need for any change in popcon.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2010/02/msg00033.html

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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Daniel Richard G.]
> Yes, I see that... what is it now, the --no-recommends switch is broken?

Nope.  Your installation simply used version 0.26, which is one
version before the change was introduced.

I eagerly await Bills view on the proposed change for
popularity-contest, which I believe i a better place to implement the
change.

> What source package do these files go into, anyway?

The pkgsel package got the 90popcon file.

> Google pointed me to the d-i.alioth.debian.org site, but if I do
> "apt-get source debian-installer", there's nothing like this in
> there.

The debian installer consist of a lot of smaller source packages
working together, so the debian-installer source is only a small
fragment of the entire installer.

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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 17 July 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> I eagerly await Bills view on the proposed change for
> popularity-contest, which I believe i a better place to implement the
> change.

No, it is not reasonable to ask packages to change functionally correct and 
policy-compliant dependencies only because of D-I [1].
popcon falls back to mail if the HTTP method fails, which does happen 
occasionally. Therefore a Recommends of an MTA is reasonable.

Why do you feel the need to second-guess me on this?
I spent several days analyzing the whole issue of Recommends and making 
various changes to deal with minor issues that arose from it. All changes 
where posted for review and discussed on the d-boot list. popcon is not 
the only package that needed an exception, so the --no-recommends option 
is needed anyway. Using it for popcon is a perfectly acceptable solution.

So: as the reported issue is already fixed in current daily built D-I 
images and as the Recommends in popcon is functionally correct, there is 
absolutely zero need to make any changes in popcon.

[1] The issue in D-I is mainly one of ordering: we install popcon before 
running tasksel and installing prio standard packages. The fact that we 
uninstall popcon if a user chooses not to participate is another weirdness 
in D-I which should not be reason to make any changes in the package.



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Re: floppy install - unable to find root filesystem, ide_generic not loaded

2010-07-17 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi,

Philip Hands  wrote:.
> > BTW, is there any reason why not install Etch from floppy instead of
> > Sarge?
> 
> No, none -- I thought I'd checked that.  Actually, I think what actually
> happened is that I found the sarge link first, checked for etch, found
> it and then must have pasted the wrong one into the email -- Doh!
> 
> Sorry for any wasted time.  Installing from Etch floppies would be much
> more sensible.

So, I made a new try with installing Etch and then upgrading to Lenny.

The first step, installing Etch worked fine, booting from Etch floppies
and the installing from a Etch netinst cd.

Then I upgraded to Lenny, according to the Lenny release notes in
three steps:
apt-get install apt aptitude
aptitude safe-upgrade
aptitude dist-upgrade

No problems so far, upgrade completed without errrors or
any glitches, but the new kernel was unable to boot
(more exactly spoken: cannot find the root filesystem).
It's an 2.6.26 kernel from debian linux image package
(linux-image-2.6.26-486).
System boot hangs at "Waiting for root filesystem ..." and
then the debug shell comes up.
The problem is: there are no ide related modules loaded, only
some ACPI modules are loaded.
Doing "modprobe ide_generic" makes the harddisk available, and
closing the shell with exit let's the system boot continue fine.

Can anyone tell me, why this happens?
Should I file a bugreport? Against which package?

Holger


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Bug#589404: installation-reports: Squeeze fails to configure monitor

2010-07-17 Thread Chris Barnard
Package: installation-reports
Severity: important



-- Package-specific info:

Boot method: netinst
Image version: netinst iso from 14 jul 10 to within a day or 2
Date: 

Machine: White box; VIA KT266/A mobo:Athlon 2000 :Nvidia MX4000: LG Flatron 
W1942T monitor
Partitions: 


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [0]
Detect network card:[0]
Configure network:  [0]
Detect CD:  [0]
Load installer modules: [0]
Detect hard drives: [0]
Partition hard drives:  [0]
Install base system:[0]
Clock/timezone setup:   [0]
User/password setup:[0]
Install tasks:  [0]
Install boot loader:[0]
Overall install:[0]

Comments/Problems:
Failed to configure display to 1440 x 900.  Config was 4 x 3 aspect ratio; 
sorry I don't remember exactly which numbers. I was 
surprised because Lenny gets it right with no problems and a HP laptop with the 
same 1440 x 900 is working with Squeeze.  Text based 
install went flawlessly except for display config which I don't know enough to 
work around.



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umame -a: Linux Newbox 2.6.26-2-486 #1 Sat Jun 12 02:15:32 UTC 2010 i686 unknown
lspci -knn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 
[Apollo KT266/A/333] [1106:3099]
lspci -knn: 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 
[Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP] [1106:b099]
lspci -knn: 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ [10ec:8139] (rev 10)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: 8139too
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: 8139too, 8139cp
lspci -knn: 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ [10ec:8139] (rev 10)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: 8139too
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: 8139too, 8139cp
lspci -knn: 00:0c.0 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x 
UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 62)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:0c.1 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x 
UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 62)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:0c.2 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 
[1106:3104] (rev 65)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: ehci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:11.0 ISA bridge [0601]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233A ISA 
Bridge [1106:3147]
lspci -knn: 00:11.1 IDE interface [0101]: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE [1106:0571] (rev 06)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: VIA_IDE
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: via82cxxx
lspci -knn: 00:11.2 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x 
UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 23)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:11.3 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x 
UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 23)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller [1106:3059] (rev 40)
lspci -knn: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV18 
[GeForce4 MX 4000] [10de:0185] (rev c1)
lsmod: Module  Size  Used by
lsmod: nls_cp437   5504  0 
lsmod: ufs63620  0 
lsmod: qnx47684  0 
lsmod: ntfs  180544  0 
lsmod: dm_mod 45384  0 
lsmod: md_mod 65940  0 
lsmod: xfs   446836  0 
lsmod: reiserfs  187264  0 
lsmod: jfs   148188  0 
lsmod: ext3  103688  4 
lsmod: jbd35092  1 ext3
lsmod: vfat8832  0 
lsmod: fat39964  1 vfat
lsmod: ext2   52744  0 
lsmod: mbcache 6656  2 ext3,ext2
lsmod: 8139too20224  0 
lsmod: 8139cp 17024  0 
lsmod: mii 4864  2 8139too,8139cp
lsmod: nls_utf81664  2 
lsmod: isofs  

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Bug#589404: installation-reports: Squeeze fails to configure monitor

2010-07-17 Thread Christian PERRIER
reassign 589404 xserver-xorg
thanks

Quoting Chris Barnard (cb...@westnet.com.au):

> Comments/Problems:
> Failed to configure display to 1440 x 900.  Config was 4 x 3 aspect ratio; 
> sorry I don't remember exactly which numbers. I was 
> surprised because Lenny gets it right with no problems and a HP laptop with 
> the same 1440 x 900 is working with Squeeze.  Text based 
> install went flawlessly except for display config which I don't know enough 
> to work around.

Thanks for your report.

This issue is more related to the X.org server than the installer
itself. Hence reassigning this bug report.

You may need to add information about your system. Probably sending
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Processed: Re: Bug#589404: installation-reports: Squeeze fails to configure monitor

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Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:

> reassign 589404 xserver-xorg
Bug #589404 [installation-reports] installation-reports: Squeeze fails to 
configure monitor
Bug reassigned from package 'installation-reports' to 'xserver-xorg'.
> thanks
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SVN problem: committing a file named "s...@latin"

2010-07-17 Thread Christian PERRIER
I need to add such a file, but "svn add" apparently chokes on it:

bubu...@mykerinos:~/src/debian/debian-installer/installer/build/needed-characters>
 LC_ALL=C svn add s...@latin
svn: warning: 'sr' not found
bubu...@mykerinos:~/src/debian/debian-installer/installer/build/needed-characters>
 LC_ALL=C svn add s...@latin
svn: warning: 'sr' not found

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Bug#589379: marked as done (Unable to install Ubuntu because old LVM pvolume appear after automatic partitioning)

2010-07-17 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:58:21 +0100
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pvolume appear after  automatic partitioning
has caused the Debian Bug report #589379,
regarding Unable to install Ubuntu because old LVM pvolume appear after  
automatic partitioning
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Package: debian-installer? partman-* ? don't know
Version: Ubuntu 10.04 installer.

I send this bug-report to you, as the partman-auto package maintained
by debian bug tracker (https://launchpad.net/partman-auto)

I Unable to install Ubuntu 10.04 server because old LVM pvolume appear
after automatic partitioning.

How to reproduce:
1. Install Ubuntu to automatic LVM partitions
2. On other computer, just overwrite DOS partition table with another
one, or just clear it.
3. Try to install Ubuntu again. After automatic partitioning it will
see LVM partitions created on step 1! But it will try to issue
pvcreate which fail due to existing logical volumes.


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--- Begin Message ---
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 02:07:05PM +0600, Марк Коренберг wrote:
> Package: debian-installer? partman-* ? don't know
> Version: Ubuntu 10.04 installer.
> 
> I send this bug-report to you, as the partman-auto package maintained
> by debian bug tracker (https://launchpad.net/partman-auto)

Please report Ubuntu bugs to Launchpad, regardless of what that page
says for the upstream bug tracker location (most people won't be able to
accurately determine whether an installer bug is upstream or not).

  
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%20bugs%20at%20Launchpad.net

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Re: SVN problem: committing a file named "s...@latin"

2010-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 17 July 2010, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> I need to add such a file, but "svn add" apparently chokes on it:
>
> bubu...@mykerinos:~/src/debian/debian-installer/installer/build/needed-c
>haracters> LC_ALL=C svn add s...@latin svn: warning: 'sr' not found
> bubu...@mykerinos:~/src/debian/debian-installer/installer/build/needed-c
>haracters> LC_ALL=C svn add s...@latin svn: warning: 'sr' not found
>
> Any suggestion?

Works here (system running Lenny):
$ touch s...@latin
$ svn add s...@latin
A s...@latin


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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Daniel Richard G.
On Sat, 2010 Jul 17 13:35+0200, Frans Pop wrote:
>
> So: as the reported issue is already fixed in current daily built D-I
> images and as the Recommends in popcon is functionally correct, there
> is absolutely zero need to make any changes in popcon.

Okay, now I'm a little confused.

So I see in the pkgsel ChangeLog that you addressed this back in late
February. And I see that the current d-i downloads (netboot in
particular) are dated early July, the same for both sid and squeeze. So
why did this problem come up at all? Petter mentioned that version 0.26
of pkgsel was being used, but why would an early-July build of d-i use a
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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
(Daniel: sorry for the private duplicate of this mail; no need to CC me.)

On Saturday 17 July 2010, Daniel Richard G. wrote:
> On Sat, 2010 Jul 17 13:35+0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > So: as the reported issue is already fixed in current daily built D-I
> > images and as the Recommends in popcon is functionally correct, there
> > is absolutely zero need to make any changes in popcon.
>
> Okay, now I'm a little confused.
>
> So I see in the pkgsel ChangeLog that you addressed this back in late
> February. And I see that the current d-i downloads (netboot in
> particular) are dated early July, the same for both sid and squeeze. So
> why did this problem come up at all? Petter mentioned that version 0.26
> of pkgsel was being used, but why would an early-July build of d-i use a
> version of pkgsel from last December?

I'm not sure what image was used by the bug reporter, but I assume a 
current "D-I alpha 1" image. The alpha1 images date from mid February.

Until today, the version of pkgsel in testing was 0.26, which does not have 
my latest changes. This also means that current "squeeze_d-i" images still 
have the old version.

As you can see from [1] my final work on Recommends handling in D-I was 
done _after_ the alpha1 release.

I verified earlier today that with a daily built D-I image exim4 does not 
get pulled in when popcon is installed during pkgsel.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2010/02/msg00148.html



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Bug#293967: jnzh 6n

2010-07-17 Thread Nelda Veronica
03w



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Bug#304565: yukp tqj

2010-07-17 Thread Renae Loretta
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Bug#589453: 'Abort the installation' in main menu not working

2010-07-17 Thread Daniel Baumann
Package: live-installer-launcher

When using live-installer-launcher and d-i can't find a installer medium
and you go back to the main menu, the 'Abort the installation' item
doesn't work.

I guess this is something similar as with the 'Exit' item we had and
which was fixed in main-menu 1.30 and rootskel 1.79.

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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Daniel Richard G.
On Sat, 2010 Jul 17 21:40+0200, Frans Pop wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what image was used by the bug reporter, but I assume a
> current "D-I alpha 1" image. The alpha1 images date from mid Februari.

These received a refresh a few days ago:


http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/

I used the netboot tarball, from July 10. It's identical to the one for
sid, so I had thought there were no pending updates to d-i or its
dependencies.

> Until today, the version of pkgsel in testing was 0.26, which does not
> have my latest changes. As you can see from [1] my final work on
> Recommends handling in D-I was done after the alpha1 release.

But this same error would have occurred if I had used d-i from sid. When
you say "release," do you mean, from daily builds to unstable, rather
than unstable to testing?

> I verified earlier today that with a daily built D-I image exim4 does
> not get pulled in when popcon is installed during pkgsel.

This is good to hear (as well as the fact that everyone wants to keep an
MTA out of a minimal install). But how soon should a sid or squeeze d-i
image with the correct behavior become available?



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 18 July 2010, Daniel Richard G. wrote:
> On Sat, 2010 Jul 17 21:40+0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > I'm not sure what image was used by the bug reporter, but I assume a
> > current "D-I alpha 1" image. The alpha1 images date from mid Februari.
>
> These received a refresh a few days ago:
> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/curr
>ent/images/netboot/

No, that's no update. Only a date change for some reason. The images are 
still identical to the alpha1 release from February. One way to see that 
is to check the kernel version: it uses 2.6.30 instead of 2.6.32. Another 
is to check the /etc/lsb-release file or the versions of udebs listed 
in /var/lib/dpkg/status.

> But this same error would have occurred if I had used d-i from sid. When
> you say "release," do you mean, from daily builds to unstable, rather
> than unstable to testing?

The error would *not* have occurred if you had used images based on D-I 
from sid.

If you look at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/, you will see 
three sets of links:
- squeeze Alpha1 release (these are the ones you used)
- current weekly snapshot
- daily built images

The first is the old release I was talking about and will soon be replaced 
with the new release.
The second currently also still has the old version of pkgsel as weekly CD 
snapshots take udebs from testing and the current build is from last 
Monday (before the migrations of new versions done earlier today). The 
next build will use the new version (but is likely to be unusable because 
of the preparation for the new release which means that temporarily things 
from the old and new release will be mixed up and that is almost certain 
to cause breakage).
The third set are the images that have the lastest version of all installer 
components from unstable.

The page linked above is the only authoritative source for the various 
images available to install testing.



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Daniel Richard G.
On Sun, 2010 Jul 18 04:46+0200, Frans Pop wrote:
>
> No, that's no update. Only a date change for some reason. The images
> are still identical to the alpha1 release from February. One way to
> see that is to check the kernel version: it uses 2.6.30 instead of
> 2.6.32. Another is to check the /etc/lsb-release file or the versions
> of udebs listed in /var/lib/dpkg/status.

My understanding is that these were recently updated to fix the libblkid
issue (see bug #587570), which had previously made the installer
unusable. I guess they just re-built it from the same source as alpha1,
modulo that one bit.

> The error would *not* have occurred if you had used images based on
> D-I from sid.

So if I had used the one from


http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/

it would have worked? But it's identical to the one for squeeze...

> If you look at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/, you will
> see three sets of links:
> - squeeze Alpha1 release (these are the ones you used)
> - current weekly snapshot
> - daily built images

Okay, so the weeklies come from testing, and the dailies from unstable.
But the d-i images that are themselves in unstable and testing, those
are formal, infrequently-updated "releases?"

> The page linked above is the only authoritative source for the various
> images available to install testing.

Okay, though the netboot/USB/etc. downloads just go to the same place in
the repositories where I was looking.



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 18 July 2010, Daniel Richard G. wrote:
> So if I had used the one from
> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/current/
>images/netboot/
>
> it would have worked?

No. Those are *not* daily built images. Follow the relevant links from the 
page I referred to! For netboot you need "other images".

> But it's identical to the one for squeeze...

Correct. Both are the last D-I release, not daily builds.



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Daniel Richard G.
On Sun, 2010 Jul 18 06:09+0200, Frans Pop wrote:
>
> No. Those are *not* daily built images. Follow the relevant links from
> the page I referred to! For netboot you need "other images".

Oh, right---I see the different set of links, that go to various places
(e.g. people.debian.org) not in the repositories. Missed those, sorry!

> > But it's identical to the one for squeeze...
>
> Correct. Both are the last D-I release, not daily builds.

Ah, so when you say "images based on D-I from sid," you mean a daily
build of the installer image (which uses d-i and other components from
sid), not the image that is itself in sid/squeeze (which would be the
last release).

I think I have it straight now :) So I need to wait for the next release
of d-i images, and then for those to make their way into testing.

Thanks for your patience, and all the work you've done.



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Re: SVN problem: committing a file named "s...@latin"

2010-07-17 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):

> > bubu...@mykerinos:~/src/debian/debian-installer/installer/build/needed-c
> >haracters> LC_ALL=C svn add s...@latin svn: warning: 'sr' not found
> > bubu...@mykerinos:~/src/debian/debian-installer/installer/build/needed-c
> >haracters> LC_ALL=C svn add s...@latin svn: warning: 'sr' not found
> >
> > Any suggestion?
> 
> Works here (system running Lenny):
> $ touch s...@latin
> $ svn add s...@latin
> A s...@latin

And it worked also on my lenny system. For the sake of it, I tried
from my sid system and a bash shell (I'm using dash as shell on my
unstable system) and the same problem happened.

That thus seems to be an issue in Subversion 1.6 that doesn't occur in
1.5.





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Re: Spam cleaning effort: June 2010

2010-07-17 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org):
> We're now in July, so it's time for our team of magic reviewers to
> work on June 2010 archives.
> 
> More details on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SpamClean
> 
> Please note that last month saw a discussion about whether it's good
> or not to mention the number of spam one finds, along with one's
> name. Some of us agreee with this, some don't. Please feel free to do
> whatever you think is appropriate.


We still need at least one or, even better, two people to review June
posts to -boot in order to be sure that spam is completely identified.




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