Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Philipp Hübner
Hi,

Bastian Blank schrieb:
> This means that Debian will get uninstallable on the following CPUs:
> - Intel i486,
> - Intel Pentium (MMX),
> - AMD K5,
> - AMD K6(-2, -3),

Many schools are using LTSP on Debian (Edu) and have this hardware as
their thinclients.

Would be a shame if all those schools using free software cannot use the
next release (and following) because their hardware is no longer supported.
And I'm talking of really large numbers here worldwide.

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Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Bastian Blank  wrote:
> - VIA C3 before Nehemiah and
> - National Semiconductor Geode (GXm, GXLV, GX1 and GX2).

That affects XO-1 hardware being manufactured now, and C3s are among
the viable CPUs for low cost, low dissipation "school server" style
hardware.

On the school server, I do my best to keep Debian a valid alternative
(though the builds are Fedora based) and with a bit of packaging help
most (all?) the XS specific packages could be in Debian.

On the XO side, Jonas is packaging sugar and there's a mini-CDD called
DebXO that seems to be quite active.

I understand supporting additional hw does mean sizable work. Thanks
for the fantastic work done so far. Please do consider not dropping
support.

cheers,



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Bug#530391: fixed

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Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread J.A. Bezemer

On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote:

> Hi folks
> 
> I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux
> kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov).
[..]

Popcon gives us some rough numbers to think about:

linux-image-2.6-68649518
linux-image-2.6-486 6191

Given that the installer's automatic kernel choice tends to be accurate,
we've got quite some non-cmov users. Actually, i386 has got many more
non-cmov users than any non-i386/amd64 architecture has _in total_:

linux-image-2.6-ixp4xx   772   (=arm/armel)
linux-image-2.6-powerpc  551
linux-image-2.6-sparc64  192
linux-image-2.6-orion5x  106   (=arm/armel)
(rest <100)

#include 

So, the good work you're doing to keep supporting arm/powerpc/sparc/etc.
will actually benefit much less users than the number you'll be annoying
when you drop i386 non-cmov ...


Best regards,

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Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"J.A. Bezemer"  writes:

> On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote:
>
>> Hi folks
>> 
>> I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux
>> kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov).
> [..]
>
> Popcon gives us some rough numbers to think about:
>
> linux-image-2.6-68649518
> linux-image-2.6-486 6191
>
> Given that the installer's automatic kernel choice tends to be accurate,
> we've got quite some non-cmov users. Actually, i386 has got many more
> non-cmov users than any non-i386/amd64 architecture has _in total_:
>
> linux-image-2.6-ixp4xx   772   (=arm/armel)
> linux-image-2.6-powerpc  551
> linux-image-2.6-sparc64  192
> linux-image-2.6-orion5x  106   (=arm/armel)
> (rest <100)
>
> #include 
>
> So, the good work you're doing to keep supporting arm/powerpc/sparc/etc.
> will actually benefit much less users than the number you'll be annoying
> when you drop i386 non-cmov ...
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Anne Bezemer

And how many people with such low power systems do run popcon? How
many use a custom kernel?

MfG
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Problems with graphical installer "gtk"

2009-05-25 Thread MaTa
Hi

First, sorry for my bad English from Barcelona.
I'm trying a preseed installation and "hd-media" images and It's OK. I tried
the "DEBIAN_FRONTEND" parameter with "newt" and "text" frontend and  it's
OK. When I try with "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=gtk", the following error apears:

/home/cjwatson/src/debian/debian-installer/branch/lenny/packages/cdebconf/src/frontend.c:275
(frontend_new): Cannot load frontend module
/usr/lib/cdebconf/frontend/gtk.so: /usr/lib/cdebconf/frontend/gtk.so: cannot
open shared object: No such file or directory
Process (1081): INFO: kbd-module: setting console module to unicode.

I have downloaded image from here:
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/gtk/
I check with md5sum "hd-media" and iso image and it's OK.

I preseed the image with the parameters :

kernel /boot/vmlinuz preseed/file=/preseed.cfg debian-installer/locale=en_UK
console-setup/layout=es

It's compatible "preseed.cfg" file with "gtk installation"?
What does the *"bogl"* and "corba" parameters?

Thanks for all in advance
Oriol Matavacas


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Re: Illustrated Guide to Installing Debian GNU/Linux

2009-05-25 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Eric,

On Sonntag, 22. Februar 2009, Eric Doviak wrote:
> At Holger's suggestion, I placed the "Illustrated Guide to Installing
> Debian" on the Debian Wiki[1].
> [1] http://wiki.debian.org/LennyIllustratedInstall

Cool!

> I'm not sure what the next step is here, so please let me know what
> else I can do/should do to help.


I'll blog about it, to make it a bit more known :-)


regards,
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Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon May 25 2009 06:03:40 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> And how many people with such low power systems do run popcon? How
> many use a custom kernel?

OTOH, none of the non-cmov i386 systems here run popcon either.

--Mike Bird


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preseed the dm-crypt passphrase failed

2009-05-25 Thread Gabriel Sailer
Hello,
i tried to install about 20 laptops full preseeded with crypted
root and swap (and a normal /boot). The installation work but
without accepting my preseeded partman-crypto/passphrase (and
partman-crypto/passphrase-again).
I use 'd-i preseeded partman-crypto/passphrase password ' and the same with 'partman-crypto/passphrase-again'.
I see the Values in the 'passwords.dat' when the system is
processing the preseed file but it seems that the 'blockdev-keygen'
script didn't get it.
Is it not possible to preseed this value?
Or how is it possible debug partman-crypto precessing?

I did not find any information about a solution for problem.
I search the last two weeks for an answer in the internet :-(

Many thanks for any help

Gabriel



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preseed the dm-crypt passphrase failed

2009-05-25 Thread Gabriel
Hello,
i tried to install about 20 laptops full preseeded with crypted
root and swap (and a normal /boot). The installation work but
without accepting my preseeded partman-crypto/passphrase (and
partman-crypto/passphrase-again).
I use 'd-i preseeded partman-crypto/passphrase password ' and the same with 'partman-crypto/passphrase-again'.
I see the Values in the 'passwords.dat' when the system is
processing the preseed file but it seems that the 'blockdev-keygen'
script didn't get it.
Is it not possible to preseed this value?
Or how is it possible debug partman-crypto precessing?

I did not find any information about a solution for problem.
I search the last two weeks for an answer in the internet :-(

Many thanks for any help

Gabriel


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Processing of flash-kernel_2.19_armel.changes

2009-05-25 Thread Archive Administrator
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along with the files:
  flash-kernel_2.19.dsc
  flash-kernel_2.19.tar.gz
  flash-kernel_2.19_armel.deb
  flash-kernel-installer_2.19_armel.udeb

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flash-kernel_2.19_armel.changes ACCEPTED

2009-05-25 Thread Archive Administrator

Accepted:
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  to pool/main/f/flash-kernel/flash-kernel-installer_2.19_armel.udeb
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  to pool/main/f/flash-kernel/flash-kernel_2.19.dsc
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  to pool/main/f/flash-kernel/flash-kernel_2.19.tar.gz
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  to pool/main/f/flash-kernel/flash-kernel_2.19_armel.deb


Override entries for your package:
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Re: preseed the dm-crypt passphrase failed

2009-05-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 25 May 2009, Gabriel wrote:
> I did not find any information about a solution for problem.

Please file a bug report against partman-crypto for this issue, so we can 
better track the discussion.

Provide at least the following information:
- the exact image you are using (full URL of the image you downloaded)
- does it work correctly if you do _not_ preseed partman?
- the contents of your preseed file for partman (with a fictional
  passphrase)
- a debug log for partman-crypto:
  - run the installation with 'priority=medium' and *only* the partman
questions preseeded (again with fictional passphrase)
  - just before you start partman, add a line 'set -x' in the script
blockdev-keygen script AND in the file /lib/partman/lib/crypto-base.sh
  - save /var/log/syslog after the point where you see the error and send
 it to us
- the hardware-summary for that installation (in /var/log after you
  run the "Save debug logs" option from the main menu)

Please gzip the syslog before sending it, otherwise your mail may not 
reach the mailing list.

Cheers,
FJP


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mmc-modules should be loaded by default on ARM Kirkwood

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Michlmayr
The mmc-modules udeb should be downloaded automatically because
installations to an SD card will be quite popular on one device.
This is not done at the moment because the module is priority "extra".

I assume the correct way to proceed is to change the priority of this
udeb to "standard" in linux-kernel-di-armel-2.6/package-list and ask
the FTP masters to change the override file.

Is this correct?
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Re: mmc-modules should be loaded by default on ARM Kirkwood

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Otavio Salvador  [2009-05-25 17:20]:
> I'd say that you could make a module depends on it; so it will be
> uploaded from network or from the media (as done for other modules
> already).

Well, I don't really see which other module should depend on it.  What
did you have in mind exactly?

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Re: mmc-modules should be loaded by default on ARM Kirkwood

2009-05-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 25 May 2009, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> The mmc-modules udeb should be downloaded automatically because
> installations to an SD card will be quite popular on one device.
> This is not done at the moment because the module is priority "extra".
>
> I assume the correct way to proceed is to change the priority of this
> udeb to "standard" in linux-kernel-di-armel-2.6/package-list and ask
> the FTP masters to change the override file.

Do they accept different priority for the same udeb for different arches?
Even if they do, I doubt we really want that (too hard to keep track of 
such subtle differences).

IMO the better solution is to load it using anna-install, either during 
hw-detect or early in partman, based on a (sub)architecture test. 
hw-detect is probably the most logical choice.


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Re: mmc-modules should be loaded by default on ARM Kirkwood

2009-05-25 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hello Martin,

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Martin Michlmayr  wrote:
> The mmc-modules udeb should be downloaded automatically because
> installations to an SD card will be quite popular on one device.
> This is not done at the moment because the module is priority "extra".
>
> I assume the correct way to proceed is to change the priority of this
> udeb to "standard" in linux-kernel-di-armel-2.6/package-list and ask
> the FTP masters to change the override file.
>
> Is this correct?

I'd say that you could make a module depends on it; so it will be
uploaded from network or from the media (as done for other modules
already).

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Re: mmc-modules should be loaded by default on ARM Kirkwood

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Frans Pop  [2009-05-25 22:30]:
> Do they accept different priority for the same udeb for different arches?

The udeb name contains the name of the subarch, so it would be unique.

> IMO the better solution is to load it using anna-install, either
> during hw-detect or early in partman, based on a (sub)architecture
> test.  hw-detect is probably the most logical choice.

Hmm, that seems overengineered too.  How about I simply include the
udeb in the netboot initrd for that particular subarch?

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Re: mmc-modules should be loaded by default on ARM Kirkwood

2009-05-25 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hello,

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Martin Michlmayr  wrote:
> * Frans Pop  [2009-05-25 22:30]:
>> Do they accept different priority for the same udeb for different arches?
>
> The udeb name contains the name of the subarch, so it would be unique.
>
>> IMO the better solution is to load it using anna-install, either
>> during hw-detect or early in partman, based on a (sub)architecture
>> test.  hw-detect is probably the most logical choice.
>
> Hmm, that seems overengineered too.  How about I simply include the
> udeb in the netboot initrd for that particular subarch?

This works but I'd prefer to not bloat the initrd with non-required
modules. I'd more for hw-detect or partman as suggested by Frans.
Between both I think that hw-detect is the most logical place for it.

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Re: mmc-modules should be loaded by default on ARM Kirkwood

2009-05-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 25 May 2009, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Frans Pop  [2009-05-25 22:30]:
> > Do they accept different priority for the same udeb for different
> > arches?
>
> The udeb name contains the name of the subarch, so it would be unique.

Right. I still don't like it much.

> > IMO the better solution is to load it using anna-install, either
> > during hw-detect or early in partman, based on a (sub)architecture
> > test.  hw-detect is probably the most logical choice.
>
> Hmm, that seems overengineered too.

I disagree. The function of hw-detect, and in this case more particular 
disk-detect, is to ensure any hardware needed for partitioning gets made 
available. IMO this fits that definition perfectly.

> How about I simply include the udeb in the netboot initrd for that
> particular subarch? 

Against that is that it's not needed at that stage, so it's initrd bloat. 
And that _is_ an issue on arm.


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Re: Make d-i capable to cross compile armel|* firmware images

2009-05-25 Thread Hector Oron
Hi,

This was one of the release main goals and if nobody has something in
favour of it, this goal should be dropped avoiding complexity grow in
code and maintainability.

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Bug#524233: console-setup should conflict with console-data

2009-05-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 23 May 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 07:14:34PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > Package: console-setup, console-data
> > Severity: serious
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > console-setup and console-data both allow you to setup the
> > keyboard layout but they do not take each other settings into
> > account.
> > 
> > I think there is yet an other package that does the same thing,
> > but I'm not sure about it's name.
> 
> I didn't close this bug because I was considering to add a Debconf 
> question asking which package should configure the console (similar to 
> that the user gets with more than one display manager - xdm, wdm, kdm, 
> gdm).  But after a second thought I doubt this is worth the effort - 
> console-tools is almost unmaintained and there are still some things 
> that console-setup doesn't do, such as the default state of NumLock, 
> setterm.  Moreover the scripts in console-tools and console-data are in 
> bad shape and it will be difficult for their maintainers to do the 
> required changes.
> 
> So unless there are objections I'd like to close #524233 and #524239.

Such choice ought to be documented in a README.Debian and
maybe even in the description. The user should have a way to know
what is more or less obsolete and what should be kept on his system
to have proper console configuration support.

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