Re: Display problems in D-I in Dzongkha: how to reproduce the problem

[Tenzin Dendup]

Hi,

I am able to check the Display problem in D-I in Dzongkha only today. I
found out the following:

1. After reaching the screen to enter and also confirm the root password, if
we deliberately enter mismatching passwords and then press the "continue"
button, the next screen that warns of the password mismatch shows up
normally without the garbled italic glyphs as shown here [1]. But as soon as
we click on the slider to scroll down, the same screen shows with italic
glyphs replaced by squares as shown here [2] and [3]. Once this happens, all
subsequent screens till the end of the installation process gets garbled.

2. Without using the scrollbar slider atall, if we keep on entering
mismatching passwords, the italic glyphs gets replaced by squares after the
third time we enter the mismatching password.

3. At the first password mismatch screen, without using the scrollbar
slider, if we enter correct passwords (enter one password in the text field
that shows on the screen, then hit "TAB" and then type the confirmation
password correctly, though the second text box is not visible) and then hit
"continue" button, the subsequent screens remain OK.

4. This problem doesnt occur at the normal user's password entry screen when
we deliberately enter mismatching passwords [4]. Also, the normal user's
password mismatch screen doesnt have a scroll bar as the text contents fit
in the screen.

I tested this using netinst CDs from Lenny RC1 release and also netinst CD
from daily builds using Virtualbox.


[1] http://alioth.debian.org/~tenzin-guest/di/di-dzongkha.png
[2]http://alioth.debian.org/~tenzin-guest/di/di-dzongkha1.png
[3]http://alioth.debian.org/~tenzin-guest/di/di-dzongkha2.png
[4]http://alioth.debian.org/~tenzin-guest/di/di-dzongkha5.png



On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > While testing an installation in Dzongkha with the netinst CD, I
> > experienced corrupted display problems in the root password screen,
> > then later in all subsequent screens.
> >
> > Apparently, some strings are replaced by squares, just as if some
> > glyphs were missing. However, this happens on *entire* screens, not
> > just with "random" glyphs being replaced by squares.
> >
> > See screenshots listed at the end of this mail...
> >
> > Also, one should note that the root passord selection screen is
> > slightly too long and one can easily miss the fact that there are two
> > input fields, one for the password and one for its confirmationas
> > the confirmation input dialog is "hidden" as the bottom (and users
> > might miss it).
> >
> > Screenshots:
> > http://people.debian.org/~bubulle/di-dzongkha-root.png
> > http://people.debian.org/~bubulle/di-dzongkha-root2.png
>
>
> OK, it took me a while before I could isolate a test case. That's a
> very *weird* issue.
>
> So, to reproduce that problem, you must do the following:
>
> - boot the graphical installer
> - choose Dzongkha as installation language. Than you'll get hard times
> unless you were raised in Bhutan and can read it, but you can do
> it..:-)
> - always pick up default options until you reach the root password
> setting screen. Please note that the last screen for partitioning
> requires changing the "No" option to "Yes" (confirming that you
> overwrite the disk). You can do this by just hitting the Down arrow
> and then Enter
> -When you reach the root password screen (which has a slider on the
> right because the text is too long), deliberately enter two different
> passwords so that D-I complains. Typing "Root" (first pwd), then Tab
> twice (so that the password confirmation is empty), then Enter, is the
> way to do it
>
> - You then get the "password mismatch" screen...which seems correct,
> but again has a slider on the right. Click on the slider and scroll
> down. BLAM.the italic glyphs are replaced by squares and all
> subsequent screens are also replaced by squares.
>
> If you don't slide down in the password mismatch screen, then the
> italic font will be garbled anyway on later screens.
>
> This root password screen is the only place where I could reproduce
> the problem. And for it to happen, you *must* deliberately provoke the
> password mismatch dialog to appear.
>
> My problem is that I currently test in VirtualBox and can't find a
> bloody way to switch to another console and catch some debug output
> there (Ctrl-Alt+F2 switches to the console on my *host* not in the
> virtual machine). I have no idea how to enter Ctrl-Alt-F2 in a virtual
> machine on VB. I should then use qemu or VmWarebut need to
> reinstall them properly...
>
> This was tested with the netinst CD but I suspect this also happens
> with other installation media. What made me miss the issue in earlier
> tests is the fact that you *must* hit the password mismatch, othe

Re: Bug#504721: Possible reason for serial console misdetection

[Jérémy Bobbio]

On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 05:49:35PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> My guess would be that the reason for the paranoia field is exactly that 
> they wanted to allow for the possibility of a struct getting extended 
> without them noticing!

I assumed the same thing.

> I guess it would make sense to at least mention in a comment what structs 
> are supposed to be used, but I don't really see any benefit in writing 
> them out.

I did remove the struct definitions in order to avoid having an outdated
definition left over time.  This is most likely to get unoticed until
someone will try to change the code and fight for hours before figuring
out that the field order is not up to date.

As far as I have been able to count, 256 bytes is most likely to be
enough, but we can put 1024 if people feel safer with a larger value.
Adding the struct names as comment seem like a good idea.

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Re: Multi-desktop CDs for lenny: root device does not exist

[Holger Wansing]

Hi,

[Frans: Sorry for sending this mail to you per PM.]

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:20:59 +0100 Frans Pop wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 December 2008, Holger Wansing wrote:
> > You are indeed right.
> > I've done a test install with a rc1 netinst cd, and had the same
> > problem! Although it worked the first time I tried the rc1
> > installation.
> 
> Just to make sure...
> 
> I hope you have not been selecting this option for driver inclusion for 
> initramfs-tools during your installation: "targeted: only include drivers 
> needed for this system" (instead of: "generic: include all available 
> drivers").
> 
> Because if you have, then you've probably been shooting yourself in the 
> foot. The "targeted" option could well result in the generic drivers not 
> being included in the initrd.

No, I installed with default priority, so this question was not
asked. And I'm not using preseeding, so I don't think this could be
the problem.


Holger

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Re: Multi-desktop CDs for lenny: root device does not exist

[Holger Wansing]

Hi,

On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:39:47 +0100 Frans Pop wrote:
> I'd now suggest to file a BR with severity important, explain the 
> situation and ask for help from the initramfs-tools maintainer.

Just for the records: filed as #507805.


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Bug#507810: installation-report

[jeff cliff]

Package: installation-reports

Boot method: Unetbootin
Image version: Debian Stable x64 netinst
Date: Thu Dec 4 16:00:00 UTC

Machine: Dell PowerEdge 840 Workstation/Server
Processor: Quad-Core Intel Xeon X3210 @ 2.13GHz
Memory: 2GB
Partitions: didn't get that far however there are two hard disks
involved, and one already has a windows ntfs partition, and the other is
unformatted.

Output of lspci -knn (or lspci -nn):
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation E7230/3000/3010 Memory
Controller Hub [8086:2778]
Kernel driver in use: i3000_edac
Kernel modules: i3000_edac
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation E7230/3000/3010 PCI Express
Root Port [8086:2779]
Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver
Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI
Express Port 1 [8086:27d0] (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver
Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1c.4 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801GR/GH/GHM (ICH7
Family) PCI Express Port 5 [8086:27e0] (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver
Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1c.5 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801GR/GH/GHM (ICH7
Family) PCI Express Port 6 [8086:27e2] (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver
Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family)
USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:27c8] (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
00:1d.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family)
USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:27c9] (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
00:1d.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family)
USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:27ca] (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
00:1d.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family)
USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:27cc] (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
Kernel modules: ehci-hcd
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge
[8086:244e] (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family)
LPC Interface Bridge [8086:27b8] (rev 01)
Kernel modules: intel-rng, iTCO_wdt
00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE
Controller [8086:27df] (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
Kernel modules: pata_acpi, ata_piix, ata_generic
00:1f.2 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7
Family) SATA IDE Controller [8086:27c0] (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
Kernel modules: pata_acpi, ata_piix, ata_generic
00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus
Controller [8086:27da] (rev 01)
Kernel modules: i2c-i801
02:00.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6702PXH PCI Express-to-PCI
Bridge A [8086:032c] (rev 09)
Kernel modules: shpchp
04:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme
BCM5721 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express [14e4:1659] (rev 11)
Kernel driver in use: tg3
Kernel modules: tg3
06:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV5M64
[RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] [10de:002d] (rev 15)
Kernel modules: nvidiafb, rivafb

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [O]
Detect network card:[O]
Configure network:  [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [E]
Detect hard drives: [E]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Clock/timezone setup:   [ ]
User/password setup:[ ]
Install tasks:  [ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Overall install:[E]

Comments/Problems:

Neither of two Seagate Barracuda 750GB ES ST3750640NS SATA hard disks
were detected.  Tried to manually load the sata drivers and a bunch of
random drivers to no avail.

Also; when installing 'download installer components' there was no
'back' which wasn't a very good thing since the install was going very
slow(as sometimes is the case from the ucalgary mirror)

(lspci output from working ubuntu/server/8.10 install on same computer.)

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Re: Display problems in D-I in Dzongkha: how to reproduce the problem

[Christian Perrier]

Quoting Tenzin Dendup ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Hi,
> 
> I am able to check the Display problem in D-I in Dzongkha only today. I
> found out the following:


Yes, that was roughly what I concluded on that matter.

It is very likely that the problem is more general than just happening
for Dzongkha. However, Dzongkha being apparently the only language
where the text doesn't fix on the screen and then needs a scrollbar,
the issue could very well be triggered by the scrollbar use.

The only short term fix I can see for this is shortening the
translation in that specific screen so that it fits on the screen.

Instead of doing this in the main PO file, I'd suggest updating
user-setup's file (attached).

I suggest focusing on the following string:

 You need to set a password for 'root', the system administrative
 account. A malicious or unqualified user with root access can have
 disastrous results, so you should take care to choose a root password
 that is not easy to guess. It should not be a word found in dictionaries,
 or a word that could be easily associated with you.



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Re: Display problems in D-I in Dzongkha: how to reproduce the problem

[Frans Pop]

On Thursday 04 December 2008, Christian Perrier wrote:
> The only short term fix I can see for this is shortening the
> translation in that specific screen so that it fits on the screen.

Or decrease the font size...

From packages/rootskel-gtk/src/usr/bin/gtk-set-font:
dz)
FONT_NAME="Tibetan Machine Uni"
FONT_SIZE=$(($FONT_SIZE + 2))
;;

We increased the font size to make it better readable, but maybe it's just 
too big now.


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Re: Display problems in D-I in Dzongkha: how to reproduce the problem

[Tenzin Dendup]

Thanks for all the help. Just to gather some more information regarding the
display error, [1] and [2] are the error messeges shown on the CTRL-ALT-F4
screen when the italic glyphs and then the whole screen gets garbled. It
looks like a font problem but this is just my guess.

[1] http://alioth.debian.org/~tenzin-guest/di/di-dz-error.png
[2] http://alioth.debian.org/~tenzin-guest/di/di-dz-error1.png


On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thursday 04 December 2008, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > The only short term fix I can see for this is shortening the
> > translation in that specific screen so that it fits on the screen.
>
> Or decrease the font size...
>
> From packages/rootskel-gtk/src/usr/bin/gtk-set-font:
>dz)
>FONT_NAME="Tibetan Machine Uni"
>FONT_SIZE=$(($FONT_SIZE + 2))
>;;
>
> We increased the font size to make it better readable, but maybe it's just
> too big now.
>

Re: Display problems in D-I in Dzongkha: how to reproduce the problem

[Pema Geyleg]

> From packages/rootskel-gtk/src/usr/bin/gtk-set-font:
>dz)
>FONT_NAME="Tibetan Machine Uni"
>FONT_SIZE=$(($FONT_SIZE + 2))
>;;
>
> We increased the font size to make it better readable, but maybe it's just
> too big now.
>


The default font size for the Tibetan Machine Uni font is already at its
maximum. Increasing it by two would really make it big and undesirable. The
Dzongkha language uses multiple stacking (vertically) for writing and as
such the font size should not be made larger than default size. Hope this
helps..

Regards,

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Re: Display problems in D-I in Dzongkha: how to reproduce the problem

[Frans Pop]

(No need to CC me on replies.)

On Friday 05 December 2008, Pema Geyleg wrote:
> The default font size for the Tibetan Machine Uni font is already at
> its maximum. Increasing it by two would really make it big and
> undesirable. The Dzongkha language uses multiple stacking (vertically)
> for writing and as such the font size should not be made larger than
> default size. Hope this helps..

The only way to really decide this is to actually DO installs with 
different font size delta settings.

Please run the installer (on real hardware, on a system with a "normal" 
display; preferably even on a few different systems, including a laptop), 
switch to VT2, change the FONT_SIZE line in /usr/bin/gtk-set-font, and 
switch languages in localechooser (e.g. to English and then back to 
Dzongkha) to make the installer use the new delta.

Then let us know what value gives the best result regarding size and 
readability.


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Bug#507810: installation-report

[Christian Perrier]

Quoting jeff cliff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Package: installation-reports
> 
> Boot method: Unetbootin
> Image version: Debian Stable x64 netinst
> Date: Thu Dec 4 16:00:00 UTC
> 
> Machine: Dell PowerEdge 840 Workstation/Server
> Processor: Quad-Core Intel Xeon X3210 @ 2.13GHz
> Memory: 2GB
> Partitions: didn't get that far however there are two hard disks
> involved, and one already has a windows ntfs partition, and the other is
> unformatted.

Sounds like the kernel does not like your system. One obvious thing to try 
is the etch-and-a-half installer, which uses and installs a more recent 
kernel than the original Etch release. See [1] for further info.

Alternatively, you could try the Lenny Release Candidate RC1 images[2]
if you're OK to install the "not yet stable" version of Debian (namely
Lenny) on this machine.

[1] http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf
http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/etchnhalf

[2] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer



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Bug#507864: installation-reports: xorg misconfigured

[summer]

Package: installation-reports
Severity: important

Onboard video:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lspci -nvv -s 01:00.0
01:00.0 0300: 1106:7205 (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: 1043:8118
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- 
SERR- 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 


The video and monitor are capable of 1280x1024, the monitor being the limiting 
factor.
Xorg runs at 800x600.

-- Package-specific info:

Boot method: CD
Image version: 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_rc1/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso
 size=157091840
Date: 

Machine: Whitebox socket A Sempron by ASUS
Partitions: 


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [o ]
Detect network card:[o ]
Configure network:  [o ]
Detect CD:  [o ]
Load installer modules: [o ]
Detect hard drives: [o ]
Partition hard drives:  [o ]
Install base system:[o ]
Clock/timezone setup:   [ ]
User/password setup:[o ]
Install tasks:  [o ]
Install boot loader:[o ]
Overall install:[o ]

Comments/Problems:

I wish to try preseeding as it didn't go well for me in xubuntu 8.10. This was 
just a test install, to see what happened and so I can get the kind of preseed 
file I want.
To this end I chose maximum automation - priority=crit etc.

I was going to read the preseed docs from this machine, but it's not very 
usable.




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Installer lsb-release:
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DISTRIB_ID=Debian
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Debian GNU/Linux installer"
DISTRIB_RELEASE="5.0 (lenny) - installer build 20081029"
X_INSTALLATION_MEDIUM=cdrom

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Installer hardware-summary:
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umame -a: Linux Bilby 2.6.26-1-486 #1 Thu Oct 9 14:22:52 UTC 2008 i686 unknown
lspci -knn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [KM400/A] 
Chipset Host Bridge [1106:3205]
lspci -knn: 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237/VX700 PCI 
Bridge [1106:b198]
lspci -knn: 00:10.0 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x 
UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:10.1 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x 
UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:10.2 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x 
UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:10.3 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 
[1106:3104] (rev 82)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: ehci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:11.0 ISA bridge [0601]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge 
[1106:3177]
lspci -knn: 00:11.1 IDE interface [0101]: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE [1106:0571] (rev 06)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: VIA_IDE
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: via82cxxx
lspci -knn: 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller [1106:3059] (rev 50)
lspci -knn: 00:12.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 
[Rhine-II] [1106:3065] (rev 74)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: via-rhine
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: via-rhine
lspci -knn: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
KM400/KN400/P4M800 [S3 UniChrome] [1106:7205] (rev 01)
lsmod: Module  Size  Used by
lsmod: ufs63620  0 
lsmod: qnx47684  0 
lsmod: ntfs  180416  0 
lsmod: dm_mod 45384  0 
lsmod: md_mod 65940  0 
lsmod: xfs   446836  0 
lsmod: reiserfs  187008  0 
lsmod: jfs   148060  0 
lsmod: ext3  103432  1 
lsmod: jbd35092  1 ext3
lsmod: vfat8832  0 
lsmod: fat39964  1 vfat
lsmod: ext2   52616  0 
lsmod: mbcache 6656  2 ext3,ext2
lsmod: via_rhine  18184  0 
lsmod: mii 4864  1 via_rhine
lsmod: nls_utf81664  2 
lsmod: isofs  27684  0 
lsmod: nls_base6528  6 ntfs,jfs,vfat,fat,nls_utf8,is