Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 3 release

2021-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Kenneth Schack Banner wrote:
> The torrent mirror seems to have a bug, i was not able to download the
> unofficial release using a bittorrent clinet, but i was able to download it
> with http/ftp

This is completely out of our area :)

I don't know who would be best to contact, but probably
debian-...@lists.debian.org
will know.

> Under the installation I used high contrast mode and am wondering if its
> possible to use "automatically login" due to my next bug?

Mmm, I don't think there is something like that implemented already, but
I'll not as a TODO.

> After the installation and a reboot i meet a login window, where im not able
> to use the magnifier (super + mouse wheel) and either invert colors (super +
> m/n)

Indeed, now submitted upstream

https://github.com/canonical/lightdm/issues/206
https://github.com/canonical/lightdm/issues/207

Note that you have the F1 and F2 shortcuts which provide limited visual
tricks.

> The other bug i experienced is if i use F2 + alt (run program)
> And i type terminal and hit enter i get an error, there is 1 choice
> "mate-terminal".

Well, yes. I don't think they will consider it as a bug, because
apparently the text field is supposed to be the command name, not just
an approximation of the name, even if the list below provides hints as
what an approximation could be.

> In high contrast there is maby more icons there is not in high contast, one
> i found was Firefox.

Indeed.

For firefox that's because we have firefox-esr. I have reported it as
https://bugs.debian.org/992982

For the others it's just missing icons, I have reported it as
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-themes/issues/293

Thanks for your reports,
Samuel



Re: java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*

2021-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

I could reproduce your issue.

Halim Sahin, le lun. 14 juin 2021 11:08:08 +0200, a ecrit:
> when a running desktop crashs or a user does
> sudo systemctl lightdm restart
> 
> a11y including orca etc works as expected.
> Only java apps which use atk-wrapper is completely inaccessible.
> 
> Then removing all files in /run/user/1000/* works or a full reboot.
> 
> My Question is: which files are needed by java-atk-wrapper?
> 
> It could be an issue of atk-wrapper if it can't determine some
> interfaces and use obsolete sockets etc.

Well, it's quite involved. Apparently when running lightdm restart or
the session crashes, the dbus session bus does not actually terminate.
And thus the at-spi bus does not terminate either... But the only way
that jaw uses to determine whether an at-spi bus is running is the
venerable AT_SPI_BUS X property, which went away with the X session.
C applications go through the at-spi bus which they happen to find
through the session bus.

It's removing /run/user/1000/bus (the session bus) that "fixes" jaw by
making dbus recreate a new session bus, and thus at-spi create a new
at-spi bus, and set its address in the AT_SPI_BUS X property, and then
jaw can find it.

So as usual with bugs there are actually two issues:

- Bad dbus cleanup on lightdm restart or session crash. That is a bit
  surprising, I though all the systemd etc. stuff was precisely meant to
  keep that kind of thing sane...
- jaw still relying on the AT_SPI_BUS X property (but possibly some
  other toolkits do that as well, but on wayland it'll have to go
  through a session bus anyway).

Samuel



Re: java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*

2021-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 26 août 2021 01:09:46 +0200, a ecrit:
> - Bad dbus cleanup on lightdm restart or session crash. That is a bit
>   surprising, I though all the systemd etc. stuff was precisely meant to
>   keep that kind of thing sane...

I have submitted https://bugs.debian.org/992990

> - jaw still relying on the AT_SPI_BUS X property (but possibly some
>   other toolkits do that as well, but on wayland it'll have to go
>   through a session bus anyway).

I have fixed it in version 0.38.0-4 of jaw.

Samuel