RE: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal
Sorry if this is off-topic, but I can't help asking if that "15381 March 1977"
was on purpose or just from some wonky email client: 15380 days after March 1st
1977 happens to be April 10th 2019, so...
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> Subject: Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal
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> Hi,
>
> On 2019-04-24 12:34, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > On 15381 March 1977, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
^^^ HERE
> >
> > > > > It would be nice to have a bit more than 2 weeks to do all of that.
> > > > Ok. How much? Is 6 or 8 weeks better? I don't think, given how
> > > > long this is on the table already, it doesn't make much difference if
> > > > its 2
> or 8.
> > > > Just something thats clear defined and not some random, non-clear
> > > > "sometime in the future" point.
> > > The hurd-i386 architecture has been moved to to debian-ports yesterday.
> > > I hope it shows the willingness to do that. Please give us at least
> > > 4 more weeks to do the remaining kfreebsd-*. That will provide some
> > > margin to account for the non-infinite free time to work on that
> > > (especially in the freeze period) and possibly to get more disk
> > > space for the debian-ports machine.
> >
> > Thats ok, end of May is a nice point to take.
> >
> > Thanks for the work and the timeframe for the rest!
>
> kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 have now been moved to debian-ports.
> As
> hurd-i386 has been moved earlier, it means that all the 3 architectures have
> now been moved.
>
> Aurelien
>
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