Re: X on Mac
On 5/27/07, Finn Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2007, Joel Ewy wrote: > Hmm. As I recall, there is another layout (or was in XFree86 4.x) for > the Mac called something like "macintosh_old". I believe this was for > the older, small ADB keyboards that didn't have Function keys. It > sounds like you're using a full-sized keyboard, but it might tell us > something if you try out the other layout. I think macintosh_old is for old kernels (or newer kernels that have been configured to send ADB keycodes -- but I've never seen one, since powerpc and m68k switched to linux keycodes years ago). actually, no, we just switched. that is why when upgrading to 2.6 from 2.2 i had to run "loadkeys us" before which i got garbage characters at the console. it was exactly the situation where described in your reference. so we are switching now, because we (mac 68k) skipped 2.4 kernels, right ? but your reference is helpful. I think somehow something is still confused. I too saw the reference that macintosh_old [1] means prior to extendedII kb that had no function keys. that was the kb with the adb cord you plugged in on one side of the kb and the mouse on the other, that had a color apple on the top. the reference Finn gives could be updated and corrected for 68k mac and put in our port pages. if we get it straight. i tried loadkeys today with mac-usb-us, which is in usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty (just type loadkeys mac-usb-us). it appears to be the same as just "us" though. anyway my hunch is that the problem is in console keymap not in X. I will keep investigating. i think i might try building my kernel with the adb turned on. I think mainstreaming support is not right. the pc keyboards do not fit. if you want to see this with graphics try the xkeycap program. but that obviously has not been updated for macs since like 1998. ughh. some people were surprised that powerbooks as late as g4 titantium had adb keyboards. the things you learn in linux... whoops, looks you guys beat me to it. both finn's 20 and christians 21 have CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES=y so according to finn's reference i should try booting with kernel option keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 at least until i get a new kernel with adbkeycodes unset... (can't try it now just yet, ASAP though) More here http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/keycodes -f [1] it was actually std or standard. found in xkeycaps and also in /usr/share/keymaps/macintosh. note also that parts of mac-us keymap there are missing which seems to be an aborted attempt to give macs a matched keyboard not a warped pc map that has missing and extra keys. but I think that the map to use is mac-usb-[country_code]. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
working xorg.conf i promised
# xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # Then it was modified by hand merging with ppc xorg.conf that worked and # further editing to include framebuffer modes (output of fbset -x). # so far it only works on my q630 and FAILS on my q605 # also only tested with unstable/xorg7.2 (etch is 7.1) BCM 5/29/07 # # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/OTF" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/CID/" # FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "freetype" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "macintosh" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device""/dev/psaux" # Option "Protocol" "PS/2" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "FB" Option "ShadowFB" "true" Driver "fbdev" Option "UseFBDev" "true" VideoRam 600 EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "emachines" DisplaySize 35 22 UseModes"800x600" UseModes"640x480" HorizSync 28-70 VertRefresh 40-120 # Gamma 2.075 2.025 1.375 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Modes" Identifier "800x600" # # fbset 800x600-60 # !test this first : "fbi some_pic.jpg" Mode "800x600-60" # D: 40.000 MHz, H: 37.879 kHz, V: 60.317 Hz DotClock 40.001 HTimings 800 856 984 1056 VTimings 600 601 605 628 Flags"+HSync" "+VSync" EndMode EndSection # the 15 bit mode actually does not work right now. Section "Modes" Identifier "640x480" #fbset 640x480-72 Mode "640x480-66" # D: 29.999 MHz, H: 34.722 kHz, V: 66.136 Hz DotClock 30.000 HTimings 640 720 784 864 VTimings 480 483 486 525 Flags"-HSync" "-VSync" EndMode EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "FB" Monitor "emachines" DefaultDepth8 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Virtual 800 600 #Visual "GrayScale" Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 Virtual 640 480 EndSubSection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Configured Mouse" EndSection -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X on Mac
On Tue, 29 May 2007, Brian Morris wrote: > On 5/27/07, Finn Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 26 May 2007, Joel Ewy wrote: > > > > > Hmm. As I recall, there is another layout (or was in XFree86 4.x) > > > for the Mac called something like "macintosh_old". I believe this > > > was for the older, small ADB keyboards that didn't have Function > > > keys. It sounds like you're using a full-sized keyboard, but it > > > might tell us something if you try out the other layout. > > > > I think macintosh_old is for old kernels (or newer kernels that have > > been configured to send ADB keycodes -- but I've never seen one, since > > powerpc and m68k switched to linux keycodes years ago). > > actually, no, we just switched. Sure you just switched, but others have been running 2.6 on m68k macs for years. AFAIK, ADB keycodes were deprecated around 2.4 by those Debian packages that care about the console. And for ADB, naturally m68k follows in the powermac footsteps. > whoops, looks you guys beat me to it. both finn's 20 and christians 21 > have > > CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES=y That's because I used the debian config for that kernel. I build smaller kernels for myself, and I don't enable CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES. It doesn't do anything in 2.6.x. It should be removed from Kconfig. > i should try booting with kernel option keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 The 2.6.x kernel doesn't use that either (I don't know if userspace does anything with it). -f -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
