Re: X on Mac

2007-05-27 Thread Finn Thain


On Fri, 25 May 2007, Brian Morris wrote:

> yes key repeats of regular keys.
> 
> no success with xmodmap experiments with the cursor/page keys though. 
> still dead keys. tried pc104 layout instead of mac and that got rid of 
> xkbcomp errors but dead keys still dead.

Does xev indicate that the keys are not generating keypress events?

> AFAIK nothing wrong with my keyboard. however i have a non mac adb 
> keyboard i could try (adesso), i would rather not I need it elsewhere.

Out of curiosity, which keyboard? What's the model code M3501, M0487 ...? 
I may be able to test one eventually on my future etch box (waiting for 
RAM).

> 
> although i have more Xclients going now from debian menu, xemacs is 
> still crashing, producing some verbose error messages. I really do need 
> it, otherwise i can't really use X.
> 
> I see that it was build in march however the gcc of november and august 
> kernel. that is not too encouraging.
> 
> I tried your other window managers suggestions and although they do 
> work, (fluxbox and flwm) I feel openbox is better in general and here as 
> well.

Openbox is great! Fast, flexible, cheap to run, only one dep, and works 
nicely with fbpanel. Plus there's obconf for setting themes etc.

-f

> Brian
> 
> 
> 


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Re: X on Mac

2007-05-27 Thread Finn Thain


On Sat, 26 May 2007, Joel Ewy wrote:

> Hmm.  As I recall, there is another layout (or was in XFree86 4.x) for 
> the Mac called something like "macintosh_old".  I believe this was for 
> the older, small ADB keyboards that didn't have Function keys.  It 
> sounds like you're using a full-sized keyboard, but it might tell us 
> something if you try out the other layout.

I think macintosh_old is for old kernels (or newer kernels that have been 
configured to send ADB keycodes -- but I've never seen one, since powerpc 
and m68k switched to linux keycodes years ago).

More here http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/keycodes

-f


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Fwd: PS3/Gentoo Aranym builder needs help

2007-05-27 Thread Brian Morris

Can anybody here help this guy out ? I corresponded with him when he
had just got his ps3. now he is testing linux, beta of free version, and
he is an old atari programmer. In case you didn't hear the news, Sony
is looking to beat apple this year...

anyway if you could get a 3.5 ghz machine to run aranym for $600US ???
(last i tried even my 0.550ppc-Debian  wasn't)

[forwarded clipping follows]
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Building App with Gentoo / PS3 (PPC64) - 1 new
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Hi, I'm in charge of building ARAnyM <[link]> on PlayStation3. I have a few
difficulties. I use the experimental livecd with kboot from <[link]> The
French keyboard configuration (AZERTY) is not available, and the key - Sat,
May 26 2007 10:17 pm
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Re: Fwd: PS3/Gentoo Aranym builder needs help

2007-05-27 Thread Finn Thain


On Sun, 27 May 2007, Brian Morris wrote:

> Can anybody here help this guy out ? I corresponded with him when he had 
> just got his ps3. now he is testing linux, beta of free version, and he 
> is an old atari programmer. In case you didn't hear the news, Sony is 
> looking to beat apple this year...
> 
> anyway if you could get a 3.5 ghz machine to run aranym for $600US ???
> (last i tried even my 0.550ppc-Debian  wasn't)

Perhaps the 6 SPEs could parallelise a uniprocessor m68k using some kind 
of speculative emulation. Sounds like a lot of work though.

-f


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tests

2007-05-27 Thread Brian Morris

On 5/27/07, Finn Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Sun, 27 May 2007, Brian Morris wrote:

> Can anybody here help this guy out ? I corresponded with him when he had




Perhaps the 6 SPEs could parallelise a uniprocessor m68k using some kind
of speculative emulation. Sounds like a lot of work though.

-f



I think he is just trying to build aranym with a regular linux kernel.
so far. that is 3.5 ghz just in the core ...

he has 2.6.16 kernel and gcc4.1-1, he seems to be missing
some library, which it said it could do with out but apparently not.

my concern i did not reply to him, but I might have said "why
don't you try installing debian and booting it with your gentoo kernel"
except i know it seems presently that the aranym although built here
in debian it appeared to be broken on ppc. was that you who
confirmed it.

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(this below sort of belong with the other thread)

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xev:

keycode 204 keysym 0x0 nosymbol [q630/adesso]
keycode  104keysym 0xff54 down [pbg4/ironman]

this is from pressing the cursor down arrow key.

ok this means i need to hand input the keycodes ??

old mac keyboard (adb) is made in thailand, addesso in
taiwan, another looks the same mac extendedII kb i have
says made in china M2980 (e/o keys dead  in OSX.2.8)
I am still using the "pc104" layout rather than the "macintosh".
all these kbds look the same layout. only difference maybe
sometimes addesso is more / less sticky. I tried using my
best kb first, then the second alternative.

I will try some more tomorrow.  i have a backup now
I can try  on 605, or can try install ing just etch and
not sid (again, with more ram this time easier).

I think the problem with emacs is it just need to be
rebuild, too big gaps from the toolchain it was build with.
Now i have two i could try that.

Brian


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Re: tests

2007-05-27 Thread Finn Thain


On Sun, 27 May 2007, Brian Morris wrote:

> 
> keycode 204 keysym 0x0 nosymbol [q630/adesso]
> keycode  104keysym 0xff54 down [pbg4/ironman]
> 
> this is from pressing the cursor down arrow key.
> 
> ok this means i need to hand input the keycodes ??

Given the keycodes, xmodmap should be able to fix your cursor keys. There 
are how-tos around, and man pages of course.

> old mac keyboard (adb) is made in thailand, addesso in
> taiwan, another looks the same mac extendedII kb i have
> says made in china M2980 (e/o keys dead  in OSX.2.8)

I have a model M2680 and 3 or 4 other varieties. I don't know what 
keycodes they produce though. I'll do some tests when I have more RAM and 
etch installed.

-f


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