Re: X on Mac [Was: Re: linux-2.6.21 images for m68k libc?]

2007-05-26 Thread L Moore
On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 10:14:44PM -0700, Brian Morris wrote:
> 
> appears that Xserver needs ssh running to work.
> 
> (besides you may need for error recovery).
> 

> Tried ping ?
> 

ping 192.168.0.102
PING 192.168.0.102 (192.168.0.102) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.0.102: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=10.1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.102: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=1.21 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.102: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=1.25 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.102: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=1.24 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.102: icmp_seq=5 ttl=255 time=1.25 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.102: icmp_seq=6 ttl=255 time=1.26 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.102: icmp_seq=7 ttl=255 time=1.23 ms

--- 192.168.0.102 ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 6001ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.213/2.510/10.111/3.103 ms


> tried ssh yourself from debian68k ?

Not yet. I'm trying to understand how to sshd on this
computer from ssh on the same machine. Is there a ssh howto file?
My first step is to make a /home/ljmoore/.ssh directory.

drwxr-xr-x 2 ljmoore users4096 May 26 07:06 .ssh

cd .ssh
ssh-keygen
 Generating public/private rsa key pair

While that is working, I'll ask - on the G4 and MacSSH, after I
"Export public key ..." the sheet says to 'send the resulting file
to the admin.'  What am I as the admin supposed to do with it?
 
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Re: X on Mac

2007-05-26 Thread Joel Ewy
Brian Morris wrote:
> On 5/22/07, Joel Ewy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> >>
>> >> So I'm curious to know whether the same problem shows up in
>> X.org.  You
>> >> mention that the cursor keys don't work -- are you sure the keys
>> don't
>> >> work at all, or do they just not repeat like you would expect?  In
>> XF86
>> >
>> > no nothing at all happens. however, there are error messages
>> > from the new xorg stuff I need to check out.
>> How about key repeat?  If you hold down a (non-cursor) key, does it
>> repeat as expected, or do you just get a single keystroke no matter how
>> long you hold the key?  I'm really curious as to whether this is an X
>> issue or a kernel ADB driver issue, or what.
>> >
>>
>
> yes key repeats of regular keys.
>
Ah ha! 
So, to summarize what I think I know about the problem:
Potato: XFree86 3.?  [Don't remember key repeat problem]
Woody:  XFree86 4.?  No key repeat
Sarge:  XFree 86 4.? No key repeat
Etch-m68k: X.org Key repeat works

This may just be a problem with XFree 4.  Anyone know if I can install
XF86 3.x or x.org on Sarge?  It would be interesting to see if that
solves the problem.  Failing that, would a dist-upgrade be the best way
to experiment with etch-m68k and x.org, or will I have to do a fresh
install?
> no success with xmodmap experiments with the cursor/page keys though.
> still dead keys. tried pc104 layout instead of mac and that got rid
> of xkbcomp errors but dead keys still dead.
>
> AFAIK nothing wrong with my keyboard. however i have a non mac
> adb keyboard i could try (adesso), i would rather not I need it
> elsewhere.
>
Hmm.  As I recall, there is another layout (or was in XFree86 4.x) for
the Mac called something like "macintosh_old".  I believe this was for
the older, small ADB keyboards that didn't have Function keys.  It
sounds like you're using a full-sized keyboard, but it might tell us
something if you try out the other layout.
> although i have more Xclients going now from debian menu, xemacs
> is still crashing, producing some verbose error messages. I really do
> need it, otherwise i can't really use X.
>
> I see that it was build in march however the gcc of november and august
> kernel. that is not too encouraging.
>
I hope you get it working.  I just use a vi clone in a terminal or or
whatever GUI editor is available in X.  But I know from experience that
those text editor keystrokes get burned into the synapses, and if you're
stuck with something you're not used to, it can be a painful experience.
> I tried your other window managers suggestions and although they
> do work, (fluxbox and flwm) I feel openbox is better in general and
> here as well.
>
Maybe I'll check out openbox sometime.

JCE
> Brian
>
>


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Re: X on Mac [Was: Re: linux-2.6.21 images for m68k libc?]

2007-05-26 Thread David D. Kilzer
L Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not yet. I'm trying to understand how to sshd on this
> computer from ssh on the same machine. Is there a ssh howto file?

http://www.google.com/search?q=ssh+howto

> My first step is to make a /home/ljmoore/.ssh directory.
> 
> drwxr-xr-x 2 ljmoore users4096 May 26 07:06 .ssh
> 
> cd .ssh
> ssh-keygen
>  Generating public/private rsa key pair
> 
> While that is working, I'll ask - on the G4 and MacSSH, after I
> "Export public key ..." the sheet says to 'send the resulting file
> to the admin.'  What am I as the admin supposed to do with it?

If you add the public key to your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file, that will
authorize you to log in to that account using the corresponding private key. 
I'm not sure what the corresponding authorized_keys file would be when using
MacSSH.

I recommend using a program called "keychain" to manage your ssh keys while
you're logged in.  There should be a Debian package for it.

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/

Dave



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