Re: Can we have jigdo (cd templates)
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 04:13:00PM +1000, Finn Thain wrote: > > > On Fri, 20 Apr 2007, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 11:27:44AM +1000, Finn Thain wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Brian Morris wrote: > > > > > > > ps. thanks for NOT posting here where we can get this etch-m68k. > > > > > > Are you being sarcastic? There is no etch-m68k yet AFAIK. > > > > There really is an etch-m68k. It's a distribution, sitting next to etch, > > lenny, and sid on your favorite mirrors > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/>. It's not stable (it's etch-m68k) > > and it's not (yet?) security supported, but it seems to run nicely. > > I knew about that from reading this list, but I didn't know that we had > caught up with the whole archive that was released as "etch" (inasmuch as > it applies to us)... We haven't. I don't think we've even started building yet, though we should make work of that pretty soon. But the quality of etch as a whole is such that etch-m68k is usable already. -- Shaw's Principle: Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: mac status, was Re: time setting on 950
On 4/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 10:56:31PM -0700, Brian Morris wrote: > _ > > one more comment on RAM > > i think 32MB is that OK ? i found that sarge could boot with > 20 but it was not happy. to run emacs (xemacs = better) say. > > i think i need at least 64 for etch, bare minimum. > > brian with 24 meg and adequate swap on a Q610, etch-m68k runs in terminal mode but I'm having challenges getting xorg to run. You probably are ok using 2.6.18-4-mac with etch with 32Meg Well i kinda doubt it. Actually i am not sure I was ok with Sarge with 32MB even though it worked better than with 20. its not swapping, rather more like the opposite. its haveing sufficient free RAM for caching. as a general thing. also in emacs it tells you it is garbage collecting (that means it is short on memory and spending more time managing it). Are you setting up something like a thin client, only Xserver and running xclients from an server ? Anyway you might try running it in black and white if you can (1-bit). I think if you set it to that in macos before penguin then it will initialize the framebuffer as 1-bit. I had set up xorg upgrading from xfree on 3 powermac and it never worked straight away i always tell people you have to fiddle with the xorg.conf (may help comparing to old XF86config) But if you had a little more RAM you could at least eliminate it as a possible source of difficulty. What kind of machine do you have ? does it have more than one RAM slot ? I might have some spares if not now then in the near future (it sounds like if you have 24 in it now you must have two slots ??) Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: mac status, was Re: time setting on 950
On 4/29/07, Finn Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 29 Apr 2007, Brian Morris wrote: > hi, > There was an old version of one of my IRQ patches that would hang the NuBus when a slot driver (e.g. SONIC) was closed. Since the IDE interrupt is also on a NuBus slot, this would lock up the shutdown process. It won't affect SCSI machines in the same way. ?? Unless it had the SONIC ethernet card ? the add-on card i was thinking of buying, some others may have them (works in "lcIII" slots). > > so if sonic driver is ok now, would that be a better / faster one than > the Asante or Farollon chips. have one asante card now, between two > machines. could buy a sonic. costs a little bit more. Either one should work fine, but I would expect the SONIC driver to be marginally faster since it uses a zero-copy algorithm. q630 also has a comm slot. there may be a card which works in here, but I am not sure if the quadra is typeII or what the requirement is. still it would be nice to get "full speed" that is 10Mbps rather than 800kbps. > > _ > > one more comment on RAM > > i think 32MB is that OK ? i found that sarge could boot with 20 but it > was not happy. to run emacs (xemacs = better) say. > > i think i need at least 64 for etch, bare minimum. Did you try it with 32 MB? I haven't installed etch yet... i have the kernel with 32 and i had tried compiling some textbook examples c++ codes that was quite a bit slower than seemed reasonable. it was just as slow with 2.2/3.3 though, as 2.6/4.1. i had been upgrading from/to testing but i have not done it thorough upgrades. that is only what i had to to install application - dependencies. like i tried to explain here before my home internet is very very slow. i need cd images to do a dist-upgrade. Unless I feel like jumping through some hoops to build a local partial mirror. I could maybe do that. I was hoping someone knew how to make just the template for jigdo, because that uses the ordinary mirrors and is supposed to replace images anyway. on the other hand, there is currently it seems no way to make custom cd, so maybe the local mirror is best. I had also copy my old disk onto a free partition on my laptop for aranym use but it would not go and I heard aranym was busted on ppc. so that is still sitting there. I don't mind too much waiting a few months to upgrade, there are still in my areas anyway bugs/regressions (including the one I just mentioned) which might clear up in a security update. Although may it would help to have some more testing of etch for 68k, to show it is OK it could then be reinstated officially (ha, ha) ?? -f > > brian > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
