[Debconf-team] Sponsorship brochure modification
Hello, Regarding the sponsorship brochure: http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debconf-data/dc14/sponsorship-brochure/brochure.en.pdf I have a few comments which are mostly details. 1) page 3 DebConf and Debian The Bigger Picture There is an issue with DebConf6 which is separated on two line and has an hyphen: This is the kind of peer-to-peer networking that makes open source conferences like De- bConf6 worthwhile. 2) I am concerned about these details at the end: "DebConf has evolved from humble beginnings in Bordeaux, France in 2000 with 30 attendees and virtually no budget, to recent years where we accommodate an average of 250 attendees, with a budget of around $230,000 USD." My question is where this 250 come from ? Is it the average of attendance of last few years ? My second question is where this USD 230'000 come from ? I have just check it was also in the brochure of DC13. For me these number are incorrect. 3) The brochure size is 1.5 Mo. Would it be possible to make it lighter ? Last year we had a 0.7 Mo brochure. What do you think ? Cheers, Raphaël signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] [tmanc...@debian.org: Re: Sponsorship brochure modification]
(resend with the correct debconf-team address) Hi Raphael, Responses in-lined below. On 11/03/2013 03:05 AM, Raphaël Walther wrote: > Hi, > > I added debconf-team in CC. > > Thanks for writing and for the good work! I have read the sponsorship > brochure again. > > I have a few comments which are mostly details. > > 1) page 3 > DebConf and Debian > The Bigger Picture > > There is an issue with DebConf6 which is separated on two line and has an > hyphen: > This is the kind of peer-to-peer networking that makes open source > conferences like De- > bConf6 worthwhile. Thank you for noticing this. I have fixed the overzealous break and several others - for example, there's no need for LaTeX to ever hyphenate "Debian." In addition, there was a spelling error that Steve caught, and then another that I found that are corrected in the next version. I updated the exact attendance numbers and budget for DebConf13 that appears on page 2 as we discussed in private email. The "Debian Annual Conference" subsection on page 2 contains an explicit reference to DebConf13 attendance. The previous text there was: DebConf13 had proximately 300 attendees from more than 50 different countries. And is now: DebConf13 accommodated 320 attendees from more than 50 different countries, with a budget of about $265,000 USD. The subsection you originally suggested a modification to is "The Need for Sponsorship" (on page 6), which I understand as referring to average attendance and expenditure and is specific to DebConf13. [That is, see below.] > 2) I am concerned about these details at the end: > > "DebConf has evolved from humble beginnings in Bordeaux, > France in 2000 with 30 attendees and virtually no budget, to recent years > where we accommodate > an average of 250 attendees, with a budget of around $230,000 USD." > > My question is where this 250 come from ? Is it the average of attendance of > last few years ? > > My second question is where this USD 230'000 come from ? > > I have just check it was also in the brochure of DC13. For me these number are > wrong and difficult to understand. I didn't make up the numbers; as you said, they were in the DC13 brochure. My assumption is that they are averages over "recent years." If someone can provide me information about provenance, I'll update the comments in the document source. If someone has another set of numbers, please provide them, but be aware that fund-raising team is expecting this document to be ready, so time is of the essence. Otherwise, I think we should assume that they are not wildly inaccurate or mis-representative, and use them. > 3) The brochure size is 1.5 Mo. Would it be possible to make it lighter ? Last > year we had a 0.7 Mo brochure. > > What do you think ? My initial attempts with qpdf, pdftk, and the usual ghostscript transformations resulted in either the same size or larger files. The DC13_Group_Picture is by far the heaviest component, so I have reduced the resolution to a point where it still looks okay, and the resulting PDF is now about 600kB. I don't really see the point in spending a lot of time to decrease the size of the brochure further unless there is a technical problem. One more change in this version - I made the name of the magazine more generic as Brian Gupta had suggested on Oct 29. Old text: Logo in full-page ``Thank you!'' advertisement in Linux Magazine, worldwide New text: Logo in full-page ``Thank you!'' advertisement in a well-known Linux periodical Thank you, tony Updated version: http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debconf-data/dc14/sponsorship-brochure/brochure.en.pdf?view=log - End forwarded message - ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [tmanc...@debian.org: Re: Sponsorship brochure modification]
Hi Tony, On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 11:11:00AM -0800, tony mancill wrote: > (resend with the correct debconf-team address) Sorry, my mistake. > On 11/03/2013 03:05 AM, Raphaël Walther wrote: [...] > > 2) I am concerned about these details at the end: > > > > "DebConf has evolved from humble beginnings in Bordeaux, > > France in 2000 with 30 attendees and virtually no budget, to recent years > > where we accommodate > > an average of 250 attendees, with a budget of around $230,000 USD." > > > > My question is where this 250 come from ? Is it the average of attendance > > of last few years ? > > > > My second question is where this USD 230'000 come from ? > > > > I have just check it was also in the brochure of DC13. For me these number > > are > > wrong and difficult to understand. > > I didn't make up the numbers; as you said, they were in the DC13 > brochure. My assumption is that they are averages over "recent years." > If someone can provide me information about provenance, I'll update the > comments in the document source. If someone has another set of numbers, > please provide them, but be aware that fund-raising team is expecting > this document to be ready, so time is of the essence. Otherwise, I > think we should assume that they are not wildly inaccurate or > mis-representative, and use them. I guess, they give a good idea of what the conference is in term of size in general. > > 3) The brochure size is 1.5 Mo. Would it be possible to make it lighter ? > > Last > > year we had a 0.7 Mo brochure. > > > > What do you think ? > > My initial attempts with qpdf, pdftk, and the usual ghostscript > transformations resulted in either the same size or larger files. The > DC13_Group_Picture is by far the heaviest component, so I have reduced > the resolution to a point where it still looks okay, and the resulting > PDF is now about 600kB. I don't really see the point in spending a lot > of time to decrease the size of the brochure further unless there is a > technical problem. > > One more change in this version - I made the name of the magazine more > generic as Brian Gupta had suggested on Oct 29. > > Old text: > > Logo in full-page ``Thank you!'' advertisement in Linux Magazine, > worldwide > > New text: > > Logo in full-page ``Thank you!'' advertisement in a well-known Linux > periodical > > Thank you, > tony > > Updated version: > > http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debconf-data/dc14/sponsorship-brochure/brochure.en.pdf?view=log Unless someone has other comments on the brochure I plan to send it to our DC13 sponsors probably on Tuesday. Any other comment on the brochure before we start sending it ? Cheers, Raphaël signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Why do we have two lists for debconf-team ?
Hello, I don't think it is good for us to have two lists serving the same purpose. I don't remember exactly what was the idea behind creating a separate list but I'd suggest to drop one of them. Any thoughts ? Cheers, Raphaël signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Why do we have two lists for debconf-team ?
Hi, On Sun Nov 03, 2013 at 21:45:58 +0100, Raphaël Walther wrote: > Hello, > > I don't think it is good for us to have two lists serving the same purpose. I > don't remember exactly what was the idea behind creating a separate list but > I'd suggest to drop one of them. debconf14-team is the local team list, that was created at a time where there debconf-team was still used for planing and organizing DebConf13 (read as in month before DebConf13 took place). I find it quite usefull to have that team list on a seperate list to not confuse organizers (eg. talking about a daytrip for DC14 will certainly confuse you on the normal team list when the DC13 organizers are still talking about the DC13 daytrip...) Hope that helps for explaination. Cheers, Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer Debian Listmaster http://about.me/zobel Debian Webmaster GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] getting started on the DebConf14 website
On 10/28/2013 10:37 AM, Patty Langasek wrote: http://www.lohutok.net/gallery/debconf14/sky_swirl_style_tile.png Looks good! Print it! The full site launched Thursday night. http://debconf14.debconf.org I'd appreciate any eyes to check out the pages, verify dates and details, especially sponsorship levels (which I pulled from the brochure-in-progress), or look for bad links. A couple of things I'd like to add: - I think the "debian rosebud" from the full logo would look great in the big dark-blue-box-banner on the main page. (Filling the same slot as the bird in the dc12 pages.) I could use a copy of the original Inkscape doc, so I can extract the rosebud from the logo cleanly. - I'd like to add a square "Become a Sponsor" banner into the sponsors sidebar, to fill the space, and encourage sponsors to join. Allison ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Why do we have two lists for debconf-team ?
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 09:45:58PM +0100, Raphaël Walther wrote: > I don't think it is good for us to have two lists serving the same > purpose. I don't remember exactly what was the idea behind creating a > separate list but I'd suggest to drop one of them. > Any thoughts ? The original motivation was to have a mailing list where we could begin discussing DC14 planning while DC13 was still under way. I think this is a good idea in general. Now that DC13 is over, the focus on both lists will be DC14, so it may make sense to have everyone on a single debconf-team list. However, I have no idea if everyone who's subscribed to debconf14-team has also subscribed to debconf-team. Furthermore, as we're going through DC14 organization, I'm finding that there are disjoint sets of topics that I want to send to either the debconf-team list, or the local Debian social mailing list; this suggests to me that it may actually be valuable to have separate lists, to let people follow along with the parts that are relevant to them. I would not like to drop the debconf14-team list in favor of the existing debconf-team list, however, given the abysmal state of archiving for that list. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
