Re: [Debconf-team] RFC: Opening Registration on Friday ?
On 01/05/13 00:08, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Hi Didier and team > > Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > >> Hi all, >> >> apparently most of us agrees that registration should be opened "soon" for >> some days now, but it needs someone to actually do it. This mail intends to >> list what "opening registration" actually means and tries to propose a way >> forward. Please rise your eventual concerns _now_ so that I [0] could take >> the >> needed steps no later than on Friday 3. May. >> >> [0] It needs to be done, so if one wants the steps to be taken by anyone >> else, >> I will happily step back and won't stand in the way… >> >> = Announcement mail and blogpost >> >> There's been quite some online and offline debate on whether a verbose and >> long announcement mail would be preferable to a short and concise one. Both >> would in any case point to the registration documentation (see below). >> >> Both versions are attached. Along with the majority of the crowd present in >> last week's face-to-face meeting, I'm in favour of the short version because >> I >> think the long one is less likely to be read in entirety, while we want >> people >> to read to the registration documentation anyway. Also the long version >> apparently has some subtle differences with the actual state of the >> documentation. But I don't care enough to fight for that view. >> >> I also intend to send a blogpost with exactly the same content (just HTML- >> formatted) of the announcement mail; this will give more exposure to the >> announcement. > I'm also slightly in favor of the shorter version. But especially if > people with previous experience with this suggest to send the longer > version I'm fine with that too. > > If we use the longer version I would prefer to use the text on > https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Registration instead. Otherwise > we should check for differences before sending out the announcment. > >> = Penta >> >> As far as I've understood from the (few) discussions on-list and the (lots >> of) >> discussion on IRC, most of the debatable points [1] of the Penta >> implementation are solved (but I might be mistaken). Please go on the penta >> page [2] to make sure it is Okay. Please send the (hopefully minor) >> remaining >> change requests to the list and list them on the changes wiki page. >> >> [1] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Orga/Registration >> [2] https://penta.debconf.org/penta/submission/dc13/person >> >> = Registration documentation >> >> Along with the majority of the crowd present in last week's face-to-face >> meeting, I also think it would be "better" to have the registration >> documentation pushed to the website (as /frozen/ HTML instead of as /world- >> editable/ wiki) but as this can be quite time-consuming, I don't intend to >> block registration on this. I intend to give it a try though. >> >> Please comment on the actual state of the Registration documentation [3] by >> answering on-list; that's what I would put as register.xhtml on the >> website. > I think the documentation is fine now. I just moved the first two > paragraphs (about how to register in penta) to the end and removed some > redundancy. There were two paragraphs labeled "Registration". I renamed > the one about penta to "How to register". The rational for this is to > encourage people to first read or at least skim over the wiki page > before jumping straight to penta. But if other think this is a bad idea, > please just revert my edit. > >> A secondary document of interest is the "Travel arrangements" documentation >> [4] which would also be better hosted on the website in a shorter and "team- >> blessed" fashion. > I also went over this page and made some corrections and additions. I > hope it's now easier to understand and see the relevant parts. But it > would certainly benefit from review by a native english speaker. I will have another look over everything later in the week to check for correct English I've also added some notes about customs on the travel page, it probably needs to be duplicated on both the travel and the visa pages, EU people wouldn't look at the existing visa page. This probably needs to be emphasized with one line in the official announcement, people visiting from other EU countries are regularly surprised by the fact that Switzerland still has customs controls. There should also be notes about other miscellaneous things: currency exchange, travel/health insurance, etc. People coming from countries with accessible health care are often taken by surprise if they visit a walk-in clinic in a city center and get charged 200% more than at a regular doctor. These things don't need to pollute the main announcement, but it is useful to have them all documented conveniently somewhere, maybe a page about "Switzerland travel advice" with the cheapest options available for currency exchange, doctor, grocery shopping and other things that are not directly related
[Debconf-team] Platinum Sponsors and press release
Hi list, This is regarding the following commitment we have taken to our Platinum sponsors: The Matanel Foundation and Google. Please find below an extract from the sponsorship brochure: "Name and description of sponsor in all press re- leases relating to the conference." Shall we add a couple of lines regarding them in the registration email ? Cheers, Raphaël signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Platinum Sponsors and press release
Hi Raphaël, Le mercredi, 1 mai 2013 12.54:51, Raphaël Walther a écrit : > This is regarding the following commitment we have taken to our > Platinum sponsors: The Matanel Foundation and Google. Please find below > an extract from the sponsorship brochure: > > "Name and description of sponsor in all press re- > leases relating to the conference." Thanks for keeping an eye on these things ! > Shall we add a couple of lines regarding them in the registration email ? As I read it, the opening registration announcement is not formally a "Press release", but adding a mention of the platinum sponsors certainly doesn't hurt. What about the following snippet at the very end of the mail: "DebConf13 is happy to be sponsored by its two main sponsors: Google [0] (a corporation specializing in Internet-related services and products which include search, cloud computing, software and online advertising technologies) and the Matanel Foundation [1] (a non-profit foundation that encourages its fellows, progress, creativity, culture and religion). [0] https://google.com [1] http://www.matanel.org/"; Google's description is from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google and Matanel's from their http://www.matanel.org/content/matanel-foundation . Suggestions obviously welcome as I am not overly happy with this text, but it's a first draft. Cheers, OdyX ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Call for papers and talks team for DC13
Hi Disclaimer: I'm completely unfamiliar with how talks submission and selection worked in the past. My aim is just to start the process as soon as possible and to get rid of this as soon as possible ;-). So if this is the wrong way to do it or if others are already working on this. Just tell me to not bother anymore. As we are about to send out the announcment for the DC13 registration, we should probably also send out a "Call for papers" soon. There is a draft done by Cate[1]. There is some documentation in the DebConf wiki about the talks selection process[2]. The team wiki page [3] currently only lists Andreas Tille as a member of this team. On IRC it was mentioned that also Gunnar worked on that in the past. I guess we need some more volunteers on that team. Or are there already others I missed? I'd prefer if the talks team would draft the call for paper and send it. Who has time to work on this? Thanks, Gaudenz [1] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Orga/Registration#Call_for_Papers [2] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/TalkSelection [3] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Teams#Talks -- Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. ~ Samuel Beckett ~ ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Platinum Sponsors and press release
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > Hi Raphaël, > > Le mercredi, 1 mai 2013 12.54:51, Raphaël Walther a écrit : >> This is regarding the following commitment we have taken to our >> Platinum sponsors: The Matanel Foundation and Google. Please find below >> an extract from the sponsorship brochure: >> >> "Name and description of sponsor in all press re- >> leases relating to the conference." > > Thanks for keeping an eye on these things ! > >> Shall we add a couple of lines regarding them in the registration >> email ? How was this done in the past? I think we had the very same promise for platinum sponsors also in previous years. If this included the announcment mails, then I'd include it also for this year. Otherwise I'd not change it. > > As I read it, the opening registration announcement is not formally a "Press > release", but adding a mention of the platinum sponsors certainly doesn't > hurt. What about the following snippet at the very end of the mail: > > "DebConf13 is happy to be sponsored by its two main sponsors: Google [0] >(a corporation specializing in Internet-related services and products >which include search, cloud computing, software and online advertising >technologies) and the Matanel Foundation [1] (a non-profit foundation >that encourages its fellows, progress, creativity, culture and >religion). I'd leave out the descriptions altogehter. Especially the Google description sounds a bit weird and we don't know if they would be happy with it. What about: "DebConf13 thanks it's two platinum sponsors: Google (http://www.google.com/) and the Matanel Foundation (http://www.matanel.org). Gaudenz > >[0] https://google.com >[1] http://www.matanel.org/"; > > Google's description is from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google and > Matanel's from their http://www.matanel.org/content/matanel-foundation . > Suggestions obviously welcome as I am not overly happy with this text, but > it's a first draft. > > Cheers, > > OdyX > ___ > Debconf-team mailing list > Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. ~ Samuel Beckett ~ ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Platinum Sponsors and press release
On 05/01/2013 03:15 PM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > > I'd leave out the descriptions altogehter. Especially the Google > description sounds a bit weird and we don't know if they would be happy > with it. What about: > > "DebConf13 thanks it's two platinum sponsors: Google > (http://www.google.com/) and the Matanel Foundation > (http://www.matanel.org). I think the shot one is better, but I would add "and the other sponsors". In far past there was such thanks, but not in recent period. Anyway I would add the thank you. ciao cate ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Platinum Sponsors and press release
Le mercredi, 1 mai 2013 15.15:46, Gaudenz Steinlin a écrit : > >> Shall we add a couple of lines regarding them in the registration > >> email ? > > How was this done in the past? I think we had the very same promise for > platinum sponsors also in previous years. If this included the > announcment mails, then I'd include it also for this year. Otherwise I'd > not change it. Indeed, DebConf12's announcement didn't include platinum sponsors: http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120412 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/04/msg2.html But it was apparently some days before the first platinum sponsor was added to the website [0]. DebConf11 and DebConf10 hadn't any sponsor mention either: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/04/msg5.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/02/msg0.html As I researched these mails: 2010 was "long", 2011 was "very short", 2012 was "long", but both 2010 and 2012 were still way shorter than the planned "long" version for 2013. In the light of this, I'm still in favour of our "short" version, but we have more data for discussion. > > What about the following snippet at the very end of the mail: > > "DebConf13 is happy to be sponsored by its two main sponsors: Google [0] > > (a corporation specializing in Internet-related services and products > > which include search, cloud computing, software and online advertising > > technologies) and the Matanel Foundation [1] (a non-profit foundation > > that encourages its fellows, progress, creativity, culture and > > religion). > > I'd leave out the descriptions altogehter. Especially the Google > description sounds a bit weird and we don't know if they would be happy > with it. What about: > > "DebConf13 thanks it's two platinum sponsors: Google > (http://www.google.com/) and the Matanel Foundation > (http://www.matanel.org). I had not included the meaningless "platinum" steel mention in favour of a more neutral formulation, but "main" isn't much better. All-in-all your formulation sounds better and I certainly don't insist for the descriptions. Cheers, OdyX [0] http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debconf-data?view=revision&revision=3255 ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Call for papers and talks team for DC13
Hi, > Disclaimer: I'm completely unfamiliar with how talks submission and > selection worked in the past. My aim is just to start the process as > soon as possible and to get rid of this as soon as possible ;-). So if > this is the wrong way to do it or if others are already working on this. > Just tell me to not bother anymore. Right, we should really get this going. And by "this" I mean "everything we are not yet doing" ;-) > As we are about to send out the announcment for the DC13 registration, > we should probably also send out a "Call for papers" soon. There is a > draft done by Cate[1]. > > There is some documentation in the DebConf wiki about the talks > selection process[2]. Ok, I'll work a bit on it today. I would still prefer somebody else to give a proper polish to it afterwards (i.e. Native Englishness and such) > The team wiki page [3] currently only lists Andreas Tille as a member of > this team. On IRC it was mentioned that also Gunnar worked on that in > the past. I guess we need some more volunteers on that team. Or are > there already others I missed? For DebConf11 we were (from debconf-data/reports/dc11/credits.tex): Talk selection team: Micah Anderson, Luciano Bello, Blars Blarson, Biella Coleman, Jörg Jaspert, Daniel Kahn Gillmor, Andreas Tille, Gunnar Wolf Talk scheduling team: Tássia Camões, Daniel Kahn Gillmor, Gunnar Wolf, Velimir Iveljić (DebianDay) And for DebConf12 (corresponding file): Talks selection: Gunnar Wolf, Daniel Kahn Gillmor, Joerg Jaspert, Blars Blarson, Andreas Tille, Luciano Bello, Micah Anderson, Tássia Camões, Giacomo Catenazzi DebianDay Talks selection: Aura Lila Gutierrez Tejada, Leandro Gómez, Norman García Talks scheduling: Gunnar Wolf, Tássia Camões, Giacomo Catenazzi So, I'd suggest , as we have done on other teams, to invite people that were on the team in the past to repeat. FWIW, I intend to repeat. > I'd prefer if the talks team would draft the call for paper and send it. > Who has time to work on this? I'll go look at Giacomo's draft right away. But I'm not (yet) sending it. And, of course, it should IMO absolutely not be sent before the registration is open, as people will be scratching their heads as to how to submit a talk (but also, it should be sent right next to it). signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Platinum Sponsors and press release
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 03:15:46PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > How was this done in the past? I think we had the very same promise for > platinum sponsors also in previous years. If this included the > announcment mails, then I'd include it also for this year. Otherwise I'd > not change it. I have checked last year brochure and the wording is the same. As far as I remember cate told me we didn't add it last year. > "DebConf13 thanks it's two platinum sponsors: Google > (http://www.google.com/) and the Matanel Foundation > (http://www.matanel.org). +1 for the short text. I understand that we don't talk directly to the media but I am wondering now: what would be a press release ? Cheers, Raphaël signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Platinum Sponsors and press release
Gaudenz Steinlin dijo [Wed, May 01, 2013 at 03:15:46PM +0200]: > >> "Name and description of sponsor in all press re- > >> leases relating to the conference." > > > > Thanks for keeping an eye on these things ! Thanks indeed! > >> Shall we add a couple of lines regarding them in the registration > >> email ? > > How was this done in the past? I think we had the very same promise for > platinum sponsors also in previous years. If this included the > announcment mails, then I'd include it also for this year. Otherwise I'd > not change it. We have not done so, but I think it was an oversight. I think we should include it in official mailings. > > As I read it, the opening registration announcement is not formally a > > "Press > > release", but adding a mention of the platinum sponsors certainly doesn't > > hurt. What about the following snippet at the very end of the mail: > > > > "DebConf13 is happy to be sponsored by its two main sponsors: Google [0] > > (a corporation specializing in Internet-related services and products > > which include search, cloud computing, software and online advertising > > technologies) and the Matanel Foundation [1] (a non-profit foundation > > that encourages its fellows, progress, creativity, culture and > > religion). > > I'd leave out the descriptions altogehter. Especially the Google > description sounds a bit weird and we don't know if they would be happy > with it. What about: > > "DebConf13 thanks it's two platinum sponsors: Google > (http://www.google.com/) and the Matanel Foundation > (http://www.matanel.org). I think the short version is better. And, as others suggested, I'd add "as well as our other sponsors (http://debconf13.debconf.org/sponsors.xhtml)" ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] RFC: Opening Registration on Friday ?
Hi all, Le mardi, 30 avril 2013 18.57:36, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit : > = Registration documentation > > Along with the majority of the crowd present in last week's face-to-face > meeting, I also think it would be "better" to have the registration > documentation pushed to the website (as /frozen/ HTML instead of as /world- > editable/ wiki) but as this can be quite time-consuming, I don't intend to > block registration on this. I intend to give it a try though. > > Please comment on the actual state of the Registration documentation [3] by > answering on-list; that's what I would put as register.xhtml on the > website. > (…) > [3] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Registration That has now been pushed to the website (should be there in a minute), with a warning: * http://debconf13.debconf.org/register.xhtml The wiki page has also been updated to point to the website, in order to avoid information duplication. Comments and patches are of course welcome. Cheers, OdyX signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Call for papers and talks team for DC13
On 05/01/2013 09:50 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > So, I'd suggest , as we have done on other teams, to invite people > that were on the team in the past to repeat. FWIW, I intend to > repeat. I'm not going to be able to attend DC13, sadly. I'm willing to try to help review talks, but i can't make a large time commitment at the moment, and i certainly won't be able to drive the process or help with the last-minute/on-site scheduling. I will commit to helping to read and review the proposals as they come in, though. --dkg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Platinum Sponsors and press release
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 09:17:03AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > "DebConf13 thanks it's two platinum sponsors: Google > > (http://www.google.com/) and the Matanel Foundation > > (http://www.matanel.org). > I think the short version is better. And, as others suggested, I'd add > "as well as our other sponsors > (http://debconf13.debconf.org/sponsors.xhtml)" Agreed: Grammarfied: DebConf13 thanks its two platinum sponsors, Google (http://www.google.com/) and the Matanel Foundation (http://www.matanel.org), as well all other sponsors (http://debconf13.debconf.org/sponsors.xhtml). Could we also add a "fluff" sentence to that? Such as, "Your generous support is very appreciated." ? -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
