Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] DebConf videos on Youtube?

2011-04-06 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-=| Adnan Hodzic, Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 10:34:51PM +0200 |=-
> > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Ben Hutchings 
> >  wrote:
> > It might be possible to add them to YouTube as well, but I don't 
> > know
> > how much value that would add.
> 
> Well, with it being 3 most visited page in whole wide word I predict
> it wouldn't do any harm for Debian publicity and bringing it to the
> masses.

I just checked and youtube didn't seem playable with the free gnash 
player. You may see this as a way to promote Debian via youtube, but 
I see it as a way to promote the non-free flash player :/


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Re: [Debconf-team] Proposed dates for DebConf12

2011-04-06 Thread Leandro Gómez
2011/4/3 René Mayorga 

> On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 02:09:50AM -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
> > 2011/4/3 René Mayorga 
> >
> > > On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 12:43:25AM -0400, Richard Darst wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 08:10:02PM -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Given that does anyone have comments?
> > >
> > > It is a silly comment, but I think it is to early to take a side for
> DC12
> > > dates.
> > >
> > >
> > Well, we can postpone it, but then I'm not sure if we can get the venue.
> The
> > Crowne Plaza Convention Center is a really great location and it gets
> booked
> > pretty fast.
> >
>
> Great, that it is why I said it was a silly comment, I have not strong
> opinion
> about the dates, but if you have a rush to book the venue, go ahead, any
> dates
> for me will work :).
>
>
As Ana said, we don't need to announce the dates publically. If there's no
strong opposition from the global team, we would like to go with option A
and start negotiations with the venue and hotels as soon as possible.


>
> Cheers
>
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Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] DebConf videos on Youtube?

2011-04-06 Thread Adnan Hodzic
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Damyan Ivanov  wrote:
>
> I just checked and youtube didn't seem playable with the free gnash
> player. You may see this as a way to promote Debian via youtube, but
> I see it as a way to promote the non-free flash player :/

I don't use gnash nor do I use non-free flash player either, what I
use is Chromium browser and www.youtube.com/html5 ... works like a
charm.

Iceweasel/Firefox4 can do this as well now.


Adnan

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Damyan Ivanov  wrote:
> -=| Adnan Hodzic, Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 10:34:51PM +0200 |=-
>> > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Ben Hutchings
>> >  wrote:
>> > It might be possible to add them to YouTube as well, but I don't
>> > know
>> > how much value that would add.
>>
>> Well, with it being 3 most visited page in whole wide word I predict
>> it wouldn't do any harm for Debian publicity and bringing it to the
>> masses.
>
> I just checked and youtube didn't seem playable with the free gnash
> player. You may see this as a way to promote Debian via youtube, but
> I see it as a way to promote the non-free flash player :/
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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf GLOBAL team - Report

2011-04-06 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Adnan Hodzic dijo [Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 04:21:27PM +0200]:
> # Report on what's happening with PentaBarf
>
> Besides report on what's happening with it. I was also thinking of
> addition of two new fields in PentaBarf for this years DebConf.
> 
> - Parking
> If person that's coming needs a parking spot, because a lot of you
> will be coming here by car.

As far as I'm concerned, all changes (except for the ones mentioned
here) have been made... Not yet what you are mentioning in this
mail. I would advise, however, against adding 'parking' this
early. That should be done closer to the conference, when there is
more certainty on how people will travel, so we don't have to reserve
lots of empty spaces.

> - Sharing room with someone
> This years DebConf will all be about choice, people will be able to
> choose if they want to be in Single bedded room for couples, if they
> don't mind sharing that same bed with someone else, if they don't mind
> sharing the room with someone in separate beds and so on.
> 
> I have a feeling, a lot of processes need to be written down, so those
> who are modifying Penta know what to do and how to do it, where could
> I explain certain processes? For example how professional attendee
> would register?

Huh!? Well, then we have to get this ready. Right now, I am adding (as
I was told ;-) ) just 'Regular room' and 'I will arrange my own
accomodation'. So, before pushing anything, does this mean we need to
add:

- Regular room (single bed, sharing room)
- Regular room (am willing to share a double bed with someone)
- Regular room (double bed, am going with my couple)
- I will arrange my own

Is that OK?

Would there be any differences for professional and $foo? 

> Finishing Penta should be our number one priority.

It is basically done. The problem is... Understanding the many hidden
knobs in the beast :( The modifications are _really_ simple.
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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf GLOBAL team - Report

2011-04-06 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Adnan Hodzic dijo [Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 07:34:39PM +0200]:
> > There is already a field in Penta about "Room Preference".  I think
> > that we can tell people needing parking to enter it in this field.  I
> > don't think it requires a brand new field.
> 
> Good enough if you ask me.

That's mixing concepts and prone to cause bytes lost in the
process. Adding a field is cheap. If/when needed, of course.
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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf GLOBAL team - Report

2011-04-06 Thread Adnan Hodzic
>> - Parking
>> If person that's coming needs a parking spot, because a lot of you
>> will be coming here by car.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, all changes (except for the ones mentioned
> here) have been made... Not yet what you are mentioning in this
> mail. I would advise, however, against adding 'parking' this
> early. That should be done closer to the conference, when there is
> more certainty on how people will travel, so we don't have to reserve
> lots of empty spaces.

I 100% agree on this one.

> - Regular room (single bed, sharing room)
> - Regular room (am willing to share a double bed with someone)
> - Regular room (double bed, am going with my couple)
> - I will arrange my own

Actually this sounds really good to me.

> - Regular room (single bed, sharing room)

This would be I prefer to be alone by myself :)

>> Finishing Penta should be our number one priority.
>
> It is basically done. The problem is... Understanding the many hidden
> knobs in the beast :( The modifications are _really_ simple.

Do you think we could have it open for "testing" purposes?


Adnan

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Gunnar Wolf  wrote:
> Adnan Hodzic dijo [Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 04:21:27PM +0200]:
>> # Report on what's happening with PentaBarf
>>
>> Besides report on what's happening with it. I was also thinking of
>> addition of two new fields in PentaBarf for this years DebConf.
>>
>> - Parking
>> If person that's coming needs a parking spot, because a lot of you
>> will be coming here by car.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, all changes (except for the ones mentioned
> here) have been made... Not yet what you are mentioning in this
> mail. I would advise, however, against adding 'parking' this
> early. That should be done closer to the conference, when there is
> more certainty on how people will travel, so we don't have to reserve
> lots of empty spaces.
>
>> - Sharing room with someone
>> This years DebConf will all be about choice, people will be able to
>> choose if they want to be in Single bedded room for couples, if they
>> don't mind sharing that same bed with someone else, if they don't mind
>> sharing the room with someone in separate beds and so on.
>>
>> I have a feeling, a lot of processes need to be written down, so those
>> who are modifying Penta know what to do and how to do it, where could
>> I explain certain processes? For example how professional attendee
>> would register?
>
> Huh!? Well, then we have to get this ready. Right now, I am adding (as
> I was told ;-) ) just 'Regular room' and 'I will arrange my own
> accomodation'. So, before pushing anything, does this mean we need to
> add:
>
> - Regular room (single bed, sharing room)
> - Regular room (am willing to share a double bed with someone)
> - Regular room (double bed, am going with my couple)
> - I will arrange my own
>
> Is that OK?
>
> Would there be any differences for professional and $foo?
>
>> Finishing Penta should be our number one priority.
>
> It is basically done. The problem is... Understanding the many hidden
> knobs in the beast :( The modifications are _really_ simple.
>
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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf GLOBAL team - Report

2011-04-06 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Adnan Hodzic dijo [Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 08:13:30PM +0200]:
> > - Regular room (single bed, sharing room)
> > - Regular room (am willing to share a double bed with someone)
> > - Regular room (double bed, am going with my couple)
> > - I will arrange my own
> 
> Actually this sounds really good to me.
> 
> > - Regular room (single bed, sharing room)
> 
> This would be I prefer to be alone by myself :)

Umh, this leads to misunderstandings then. A "single" bed is a
"single-person-width" bed. A "double" bed is a "wide" bed. English
natives, how would this best resolve?

> >> Finishing Penta should be our number one priority.
> >
> > It is basically done. The problem is... Understanding the many hidden
> > knobs in the beast :( The modifications are _really_ simple.
> 
> Do you think we could have it open for "testing" purposes?

Once I understand the bits needed to safely push it, we can open it
for production. Believe me, the modifications are trivial, but the
processes are not. And right now, with Ganneff away, I can only step
vey carefuly trying to understand things and not break any. Right
now, I'm trying to set the instance on pentatest - It's almost done,
but I don't dare push a thing to cletus before making sure it's
fine. I'm trying to understand why a table does not like its own
structure :-P
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[Debconf-team] Poster session

2011-04-06 Thread Richard Darst
Hi,

Continuing on the "poster session" idea, here is a way we could
implement/track it.
  http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/PosterSession

Suppose we created a "Poster Session" track in penta, which isn't an
actual talk, but just a way to register an intent to give a poster.
That way we can plan space/time depending on interest.

Thoughts?  If we can agree+do this Real Soon, then it can be included
in the call for papers to let people know and build interest.

- Richard

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Re: [Debconf-team] Poster session

2011-04-06 Thread Richard Darst
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 05:20:41PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Continuing on the "poster session" idea, here is a way we could
> implement/track it.
>   http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/PosterSession

Here is an initial draft for DC11 attendee instructions (also pasted
inline after this message).

http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/PosterSession 

As it says, it is not decided to do this yet.  This is just a draft to
discuss implementation.

- Richard


===

DebConf11 invites sponsors and participants to present posters during
the DebConf poster session.

'''This is a draft, and it has not yet been decided to implement this
idea.'''

== Submitting a poster ==

Please follow the instructions under the Call for Papers (LINK) to
submit an intent to present a poster.  Submit your event as type
''Poster''.

The format of the poster session is still to be decided.  We will
decide on the format based on the submissions received, but will
probably involved a place to have posters visible throughout the week,
and a session for poster owners to stand by their posters for people
to come by and chat.

== Why? ==

Having written matter posted will allow a greater number of people to
know of your work than a single talk can provide.  It can provide an
introduction to your talk, an opportunity for follow-up, or 

Some ideas include:
* Slides from talks.
* Schematics and descriptions of utilities or infrastructure - get
more users
* Information on teams and their working - help recruit members
* Future plans - to get feedback.
* Independent research performed by attendees

== Poster formats ==

A poster can be either individual or from a team.

A typical academic poster is a large printout on A0 (80x110cm) paper
conveying information about research. For examples, search "computer
science poster". This can require significant layout work, significant
printing cost (> 50 USD), and hassle in transportation.  ''This level
of detail is not required.''

You may use the "slides format", where one prints out a series of A4
sheets of paper with their ideas and posts them. This makes it easy to
turn any presentation into a poster.  This can be easily carried,
cheap to print, and can be done on-site.  Even just having slides from
your talk posted will help promote discussion about your talk and
learn what they have missed.

Creative people or teams could do a twist on the traditional format by
having attendees write feedback directly on the poster.  Very creative
teams could provide a mostly blank poster, and see if people work
together to flesh out ideas like a real-life wiki.


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[Debconf-team] Registration/CFP text + deadlines (please review)

2011-04-06 Thread Richard Darst
Hi,

I think the last things we need to do before registration is make sure
that the announcements and page texts look good.  Gunnar has penta
mostly working.


My ideas for deadlines:

Sponsored registration: May 1
Paper deadline: May 15 or June 1

I'm not highly attached to these, it's just a random thoughts as of
now.


These things need to be checked for accuracy and completeness:

Registration website text:
  http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Registration#Registration_page_text
This should have complete information everyone may need to know.

Registration announcement:
  http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Registration#Registration_announcement
This is shorter this year and mainly links to the web page.

CFP announcement + page text:
  http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/CallForPapers


Also, I made a "standard blurb" to add to the bottom of all
email releases:
  http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/PastAnnouncements#Standard_blurb



Please comment on all of these things and we can get them pushed out
in the next 24-48 hours.

Thanks,

- Richard

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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf GLOBAL team - Report

2011-04-06 Thread Adnan Hodzic
@Gunnar,

Basically they are all double beds, the only beds that are "one person" size
are those in dorms.

@Team,

Regardless, I'm planing to go to Banja Luka this Thursday, is there anything
else that needs to be taken care of and are we on clear with hotel
reservations as I was planing to do have that finished.

AdnanAdnan

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On Apr 4, 2011 8:18 PM, "Gunnar Wolf"  wrote:
> Adnan Hodzic dijo [Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 08:13:30PM +0200]:
>> > - Regular room (single bed, sharing room)
>> > - Regular room (am willing to share a double bed with someone)
>> > - Regular room (double bed, am going with my couple)
>> > - I will arrange my own
>>
>> Actually this sounds really good to me.
>>
>> > - Regular room (single bed, sharing room)
>>
>> This would be I prefer to be alone by myself :)
>
> Umh, this leads to misunderstandings then. A "single" bed is a
> "single-person-width" bed. A "double" bed is a "wide" bed. English
> natives, how would this best resolve?
>
>> >> Finishing Penta should be our number one priority.
>> >
>> > It is basically done. The problem is... Understanding the many hidden
>> > knobs in the beast :( The modifications are _really_ simple.
>>
>> Do you think we could have it open for "testing" purposes?
>
> Once I understand the bits needed to safely push it, we can open it
> for production. Believe me, the modifications are trivial, but the
> processes are not. And right now, with Ganneff away, I can only step
> vey carefuly trying to understand things and not break any. Right
> now, I'm trying to set the instance on pentatest - It's almost done,
> but I don't dare push a thing to cletus before making sure it's
> fine. I'm trying to understand why a table does not like its own
> structure :-P
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[Debconf-team] Reserving hotels

2011-04-06 Thread Richard Darst
Hi,

I remember today being a deadline for reserving hotels.  Are there any
local updates on this?

Can we reserve Bosna now, and add others as we think we'll need them?
Any idea on their cancellation/change policies?  I could provide an
estimate for number of rooms to reserve to start, and then we can add
from there (though of course it is a bit late to be talking about
that).

Thanks,

- Richard

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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf GLOBAL team - Report

2011-04-06 Thread Adnan Hodzic
I'm sending this for second time, as some of you said that they never
even got the first email.

-

@Gunnar,

Basically they are all double beds, the only beds that are "one
person" size are those in dorms.

@Team,

Regardless, I'm planing to go to Banja Luka this Thursday, is there
anything else that needs to be taken care of and are we on clear with
hotel reservations as I was planing to do have that finished.

Adnan

Sent using Android (Nexus S)

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Adnan Hodzic  wrote:
> @Gunnar,
>
> Basically they are all double beds, the only beds that are "one person" size
> are those in dorms.
>
> @Team,
>
> Regardless, I'm planing to go to Banja Luka this Thursday, is there anything
> else that needs to be taken care of and are we on clear with hotel
> reservations as I was planing to do have that finished.
>
> AdnanAdnan
>
> Sent using Android (Nexus S)
>
> On Apr 4, 2011 8:18 PM, "Gunnar Wolf"  wrote:
>> Adnan Hodzic dijo [Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 08:13:30PM +0200]:
>>> > - Regular room (single bed, sharing room)
>>> > - Regular room (am willing to share a double bed with someone)
>>> > - Regular room (double bed, am going with my couple)
>>> > - I will arrange my own
>>>
>>> Actually this sounds really good to me.
>>>
>>> > - Regular room (single bed, sharing room)
>>>
>>> This would be I prefer to be alone by myself :)
>>
>> Umh, this leads to misunderstandings then. A "single" bed is a
>> "single-person-width" bed. A "double" bed is a "wide" bed. English
>> natives, how would this best resolve?
>>
>>> >> Finishing Penta should be our number one priority.
>>> >
>>> > It is basically done. The problem is... Understanding the many hidden
>>> > knobs in the beast :( The modifications are _really_ simple.
>>>
>>> Do you think we could have it open for "testing" purposes?
>>
>> Once I understand the bits needed to safely push it, we can open it
>> for production. Believe me, the modifications are trivial, but the
>> processes are not. And right now, with Ganneff away, I can only step
>> vey carefuly trying to understand things and not break any. Right
>> now, I'm trying to set the instance on pentatest - It's almost done,
>> but I don't dare push a thing to cletus before making sure it's
>> fine. I'm trying to understand why a table does not like its own
>> structure :-P
>
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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf GLOBAL team - Report

2011-04-06 Thread Velimir Iveljic
UPDATE from Adnan
(he has sent this email twice already, but it hasn't arrived to the
list apparently)

@Gunnar,

Basically they are all double beds, the only beds that are "one
person" size are those in dorms.

@Team,

I'm not going to Banja Luka (unless there is any other issue needed to
be solved) since i have my midterms this week, but i will send someone
from DIVA to take care of the hotels reservation.
We need this done ASAP!

I also won't be attending the next Sponsorship meeting because of the
same reason (midterms).
If however my presence is essential i will try and find some time for it!

Adnan
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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf GLOBAL team - Report

2011-04-06 Thread Adnan Hodzic
> I also won't be attending the next Sponsorship meeting because of the
> same reason (midterms).
> If however my presence is essential i will try and find some time for it!

Velimir misunderstood me, I'll be there for a meeting. I just don't
want to be in Banja Luka and coming back home and follow the meeting
through IRC on my phone that's what I meant.


Adnan

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Velimir Iveljic
 wrote:
> UPDATE from Adnan
> (he has sent this email twice already, but it hasn't arrived to the
> list apparently)
>
> @Gunnar,
>
> Basically they are all double beds, the only beds that are "one
> person" size are those in dorms.
>
> @Team,
>
> I'm not going to Banja Luka (unless there is any other issue needed to
> be solved) since i have my midterms this week, but i will send someone
> from DIVA to take care of the hotels reservation.
> We need this done ASAP!
>
> I also won't be attending the next Sponsorship meeting because of the
> same reason (midterms).
> If however my presence is essential i will try and find some time for it!
>
> Adnan
>
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Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] DebConf videos on Youtube?

2011-04-06 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-=| Ben Armstrong, Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 06:37:59AM -0300 |=-
> On 04/04/11 06:11 AM, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
> > I just checked and youtube didn't seem playable with the free gnash 
> > player. You may see this as a way to promote Debian via youtube, but 
> > I see it as a way to promote the non-free flash player :/
> 
> Don't forget Chromium plays fine on YouTube when you opt into the HTML5
> trial.

Well, html5 is supposed to work with iceweasel 4 too. Unfortunately 
switching to that requires at least JavaScript -- something I don't 
enable lightly, probably never on that particular site.

Anyway, thanks all responses.


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Re: [Debconf-team] Registration/CFP text + deadlines (please review)

2011-04-06 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 08:29:30PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I think the last things we need to do before registration is make sure
> that the announcements and page texts look good.  Gunnar has penta
> mostly working.
> 
> 
> My ideas for deadlines:
> 
> Sponsored registration: May 1
> Paper deadline: May 15 or June 1
>

Could we put all the deadlines the same day? it might be easier to remember :)
For example, 15 May?

In some European countries there are some holidays in the last 2 weeks of 
April (it changes a lot in every country) and some people may forget to
register or being unable to do so, due to the holidays.


Ana
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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf GLOBAL team - Report

2011-04-06 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Adnan Hodzic dijo [Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 10:22:26AM +0200]:
> @Gunnar,
> 
> Basically they are all double beds, the only beds that are "one person" size
> are those in dorms.

Ok, but... Where will people have to state they are willing to share a
bed with $nextguy, in the hotel registration itself? I don't expect
this option to be very popular :(

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Re: [Debconf-team] Poster session

2011-04-06 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Richard Darst dijo [Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 05:20:41PM -0400]:
> Hi,
> 
> Continuing on the "poster session" idea, here is a way we could
> implement/track it.
>   http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/PosterSession
> 
> Suppose we created a "Poster Session" track in penta, which isn't an
> actual talk, but just a way to register an intent to give a poster.
> That way we can plan space/time depending on interest.
> 
> Thoughts?  If we can agree+do this Real Soon, then it can be included
> in the call for papers to let people know and build interest.

Hummm... I think that'd be a bit overbending for Penta, although it
could work. The thing is, the poster sessions will be held during a
single "event" (that is, during an alloted timespan - 2hr
perhaps?). The accepted "talks" for the poster sessions will not be
scheduled by themselves, only listed as part of the (single)
session. And although it could be managed as a track... Well, it does
not have to have thematic coherency (which is our definition for
tracks). I see you are trying with this to group a bit too much based
on some coincidences.

I'd rather suggest the poster coordinator set up a separate paper
submission system, and then register a single (long) session in Penta,
including the different files.

(oh, that sounded quite like the whine of a system implementor when
required to do something that breaks logic... Does anybody want to
hack subsessions into Penta? :-} )
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