[Debconf-discuss] parking for the week of debconf
Hi All; I'm planning on driving down to Debconf from the east coast of Canada. I need somewhere to park the rental car for a week. I don't need access to the car during the week, but I would like it back at the end of debconf. I can pay something ($100 for the week?) for parking, but I don't really know where to start. Any ideas, hints, or kind offers are welcome. We'll probably be bit tired after driving 9 hours or so, so ideally it should not be too much of an ordeal to get from where we leave the car to Columbia (the university, not the country). David pgpfL0dGIn0Fg.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] possible smart card group buy?
Is there any interest in a gpg smartcard group buy? http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Debconf10/Unofficial/SmartCardBuy I think it doesn't make too much sense for me to order things to Canada from Germany, and then take them across the border to the US; for one thing, it is very last-minute, and just getting things to Canada could take a couple weeks. But for a small order I would be willing. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] possible smart card group buy?
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:34:12 -0400, micah anderson wrote: > If people are looking into getting the OpenPGP smartcard (v2), you might > want to also look at the Cryptostick[0] which is an opensource project > that has all the features of the OpenPGPv2 card and more. They do look nice (personally I already have a couple of readers, so I'm more interested in sticking with that form factor). Kernel-concepts lists them at 49EUR; I didn't see a volume discount, but maybe somebody with better German can suss that out. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] BoF best practices (Notmuch, Math Software)
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:37:05 -0400, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > That is quite simple to achieve. It just takes the BoF coordinator to prepare > some > [**working > questions**](http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20080712.235543.c0310e7e.en.html) > and/or *detailed* discussion topics, and advertise them as such. That way > potential participants can make up their minds, recall experiences that they > want to share, note down comments they want to bring into the discussion, > etc. After some consultation on IRC, I started an Unofficial/Talks hierarchy on the debconf wiki for just this purpose. For the BoF's I am coordinating on notmuch [1] and mathematical software [2], I encourage people to edit the pages and or/send me email/IRC comments ( da...@tethera.net / bremner on oftc). David [1]: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Debconf10/Unofficial/Talks/Notmuch [2]: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Debconf10/Unofficial/Talks/MathematicalSoftware ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] BoF best practices (Notmuch, Math Software)
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 17:37:10 -0400, Jameson Rollins wrote: > > Hey, David. I think the notmuch BoF is "official", right? It's > certainly on the schedule as such. And I thought I already saw a wiki > page for it, but maybe I was mistaken (since I can't find it at the > moment)... Err yes. The BoF is official, but the wiki page is not. Blame Ganneff. More seriously we didn't want to start creating hierarchies that interfered with the orga team's efforts. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] PhD student in parallel/distributed computing sought
Hi All;
I missed the job BoF at debconf, so I'm taking the liberty of forwarding
an ad for a student. I'm at Debconf10 in NYC so feel free to track me
down in the next couple days, or send me email.
--
Candidates are sought for a 3 year funded Ph.D. student position
(subject to availability of funds, 1 year with renewal subject to
satisfactory performance and further availability of funds). The
position is to start September 1 2010, or as soon as possible
afterwards.
The selected candidate will design, implement, and experimentally
evaluate an open source framework for /parallel tree search/. Tree
search applications such as /SAT/ and /integer programming/ are
characterized by their use of divide-and-conquer to find a solution,
and by the use of a shared knowledge pool to accelerate the search.
Candidates should have a Master's degree in Computer Science or
equivalent. We are particularly interested in candidates with
background in one or more of the following:
- High Performance Computing
- Parallel Programming, particularly distributed memory models.
- SAT solvers
- Discrete Optimization
- Linux/Unix Systems Programming
- Batch systems and cluster computing
Candidates are encouraged to contact
David Bremner
with a resumé and unofficial post-secondary transcripts.
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:19:46 -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > On Sun, 01 Aug 2010, Safir Secerovic wrote: > > Those seems needing some TLC to look proper at many places -- many urls > stick out, do we really need it in the format assuming people printing > them or making them nice for online viewing (no empty pages, smaller > margins), etc. Are sources available anywhere? The sources are in the debconf-data svn. I could make a collab-maint repo (git would be easiest because I have already a git-svn copy) if that seemed a good idea. David ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:43:01 -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > tth [is dead] > so what should be used? tex4ht is big, bewildering and slow, but generates nice output. > > also, if we go with PDF without .ps/.dvi/... then why not to use > pdflatex, then there would be no problem/necessity to convert images > thus avoiding out of the box error if you just do 'make': No idea about that Makefile, but I only tested pdflatex on that document, so it should be fine. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:00:34 -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > how was abstracts.tex generated? I just wonder if there is an easy way > to complement it with those urls pointing to penta? > Originally it was generated via python ./process-abstracts.py dc10-talk-abstracts.csv | \ perl ./tex-escape.pl Jeers about using two scripts cheerfuly forwarded to http://thanks.debian.net :). I don't know if it was edited after that. Perhaps diff can tell the tale. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 00:55:57 -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > could you please look at > http://www.onerussian.com/tmp/proceedings.pdf > and state either it is an improvement (then I push) or got only worse > (then I guess should not ) ;-) Push! d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] Visiting Sarajevo, Day trip or pre/post conference visit to Sarajevo?
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:34:20 +0200, vedran wrote: > Right now i assume that 30 people would enough to organize such a trip. > Price for transport and food would be 15€ for each person. > Detail plan of visit will be on wiki. > Also, there is option to make smaller group with 15 or 17 people. But i > didn't investigate price. I (and Cheryl) would like to visit Sarajevo for a few days after debconf. We won't be there before, and I'd like to have a more relaxed time there than a daytrip would permit. I don't know how many others are in a similar situation (perhaps none!) but perhaps that option could be coordinated/discussed in the same place on the wiki. d pgpjp9T8IcOna.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] ZAG-BNX buses & taxis
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:10:16 +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > > I looked around some more for minibuses; by way of example, I asked > for transfer of 8 people (corresponding to ZAG arrivals on 24 from > 13:05 to 14:05); I'm still waiting for some quotes, but I already got > one for 275,- EUR (total, for 8 people). That's 35,- EUR per person. Cheryl (13:05) and I (13:45) are interested; EUR35 per person would be better, but EUR46 is OK too. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Travel to Sarajevo on Sunday
Hi; I have reason to believe that several people are travelling to Sarajevo after debconf, but so far on the wiki I see Guido on Saturday and Cheryl and I on Sunday. I'd be happy to (a) know when the buses leave (autoprevoz.org defeated my first attempt), and (b) coordinate the trip down and (maybe) some sight-seeing activities. I'm on IRC as bremner or in real life as, well, me. David ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Your biggest achievement during past DebConfs (aka new DebConf promoting campaign)
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:38:26 +0100, Francesca Ciceri wrote: > > > We'd like to have a quote from all Debian Developers and contributors > > > naming their most important technical and/or social achievement reached > > > during past DebConfs. After talking about the conversion for several years on mail and IRC, with a little bit of preparation the Debian Perl team managed to convert almost 2000 packages from a monolithic subversion repository into individual git repositories. Being together in Banja Luka made it possible to fix the few wrinkles that arose, and to develop some new tools to keep the team working smoothly. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] OpenPGP SmartCard group buy.
Luca Capello has kindly agreed to put in a group order to kernel concepts for smartcards and readers, and to bring the loot to debconf in Managua. I started a table on https://wiki.debian.org/Smartcards/OpenPGP/Buying of who want's what. You can find links to the prices on that page The smart cards are EUR15-20 and the readers are EUR20 -> 60. I have a couple SCR-335 (EUR35) that I have no complaints about. Other possibilities include the GPF crypto stick in place of card+reader. d pgpN9RcwSuc0E.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] the library is open
There is now a box labelled "Biblioteca" underneath the coffee mugs in Hacklab 1. I put an English mystery novel in it that I won't carry home. Feel free to add / remove books. Also feel free to add the accent I feel must be somewhere in "Biblioteca". The box might move if that turns out to be an annoying place for it. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Visit ancient footprints of Acahualinca
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:17:47 +0200, Jana Pirat wrote: > if u would like to join and share taxi u are welcome. > > the start time will be tomorow 10 am from hotel > alternative time could be at 1pm from uca (if u want to attend talks in > the morning) > Hi Jana Cheryl Petreman, my wife is sitting right beside me and would like to go with you. She says you can pick the time, and let her (cpetre...@gmail.com) or me know. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Visiting CERN
"Giacomo A. Catenazzi" writes: > Hello, > > I'm thinking to organize a private (non-official) visit to CERN. But I'm late > on organizing stuffs. > In next few days there will be the deadline to book the group visit during > DebConf period. > So to organize the standard visit I need at minimum 8-10 other interested > people. It looks like you will have your 10 people according the current state of the wiki. Any idea about how long the trip to CERN is by public transport? Or put in different terms, how early a departure are we talking about? cheers, d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Notmuch BoF session at Debconf 14, portland
After some *cough* confusion, the notmuch BoF will be at 1530 on Monday August 25 in SMSU Room 238 of Portland State University. I haven't thought about a long agenda, but I could go quickly through my standard 15ish minute talk (which many of you might have seen on video from last year), and then open the floor to questions / demos / hacking. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] currency exchange
I have some japanese yen, canadian dollars, and US dollars that I'd be happy to exchange for euros at some fair rate. Ping me on IRC if you're interested. I guess I'd also exchange canadian dollars and/or japanese yen for US dollars, if it helped somebody out. d pgpTKhwvy9vmu.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Waiting for sponsorship decision
Amey Abhyankar writes: > I am waiting for outcome of 'travel sponsorship' decision by bursaries team. > :-) > Debconf15 web-site says Decision is expected in month of May & June > month has begun. ^_^ > Flight tickets are going up that's why I am worried. :-/ Bursaries sent you mail on May 18. Check your spam folder. If you can't find it, contact bursar...@debconf.org for more information. d signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] DebConf15 Schedule Published and Additional Featured Speakers Announced
Sullaiman Musah Lampo writes: > Hello, > Good morning I still did not received any information my the > invitation letter I need for the visa to be able to attend the > program,what is going on I still did not get any one to tell me what > the issue is about that. Please write to v...@debconf.org if you have not already. It may help things go smoother if you explain in your email to v...@debconf.org your involvment with Free Software in general and with Debian in particular. cheers, d signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] local restaurants, services in Heidelberg?
Daniel Pocock writes: > Can anybody comment on where to find any of the following: > > - interesting restaurants, particularly those accessible on the same bus > route as the DebConf venue? > > - any nearby shopping mall or shopping district that is accessible > without a car? > > - any reasonably priced barber shop/hairdresser? The old city (altstadt) is about 20 minutes away on the 31 bus; I got off at Marstallstraße. No transfers are necessary, and it seems to run every 10 minutes. There are many restaurants, and some shopping within an easy walk. I can recommend in particular walking up to the Schloss. The view at night is pretty nice, both of the city and of the (lit) Schloss itself. There seemed to be no problem with people hanging out on the schloss "balconies" at 11PM. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] DebConf15 Emacs packaging sprint.
We have booked the Athen room from 10-12 for the debian emacs addons packaging sprint. Depending on the morning talks I'll be there for an hour or so out of this time. If you're interested in the state of emacs addons in Debian, or in some particular package, feel free to drop by. David ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Reimbursements for DebConf 15
Daniel Pocock writes: > What is the procedure for people who are not here or not available at > either the time for submitting forms (Tuesday) or collecting cash > (Thursday)? > > Must people in either of those situations use the SPI procedure? You'll have to use some post-DebConf procedure, either SPI or some option to be decided later. d signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Reimbursements for DebConf 15
Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:11:40PM +0200, David Bremner wrote: >> • A Debconf 15 reimbursement form *filled out beforehand*. You can >> pick up the forms at the front desk. > What is a Reference #? If pepole are claiming a single invoice, then that invoice number. Otherwise leave it blank, or write in your summit Id (from your badge) > >> • Original receipts. If you need to keep a copy for some reason, it's >> up to you make copies. > What to provide in a case of a e-ticket bought online? Ticket (which > includes the transaction summary) or a reference from the online banking? Ideally both. > As the ticket in a currency which is not Euro, do I need to provide a > calculation showing how much is that in Euro? What conversion rate should > I user, todays one or one at the purchase date (it makes quite a > difference)? Yes, attach some calculation. If you can document the rate at purchase, that is OK. >> • In the case where the original receipt is electronic, a printout >> with a handwritten certification that you have are only claiming >> reimbursement from DebConf for this expense. > Should that certification be on a separate paper? > No, writing directly on the printout is preferable. >> • In the special case that your reimbursement relates to accomodation >> at the hostel, we'll cross off the night in question and return the >> original to you. > Should I fill separate forms for travel and for Aug 14 accomodation? No, one form is preferable. Just highlight the aug 14 item so in case that causes your total to go over the awarded amount. d signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf15 Emacs packaging sprint.
David Bremner writes: > We have booked the Athen room from 10-12 for the debian emacs addons > packaging sprint. Depending on the morning talks I'll be there for an > hour or so out of this time. If you're interested in the state of emacs > addons in Debian, or in some particular package, feel free to drop by. > On Thursday we will meet in Madrid room at 11AM d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Reimbursements for DebConf 15
Sven Bartscher writes: > Some questions about fields on the form: > - What's supposed to go into "Contact"? The form already contains my >e-mail and name. mailing address. > - Is there something supposed to go in the "reason" field besides >something like "travel sponsorship"? that's fine. Other people have more complicated reasons. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Reimbursements for DebConf 15
Sandeep Sukhani writes: > Hi, > > Can you please let me know whether GSoC students who have got sponsorship, > have to follow same procedure for reimbursement? Yes, but please hurry, we're only at the front desk for 30 minutes longer. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] last session of emacs addon packaging sprint.
We'll meet in Madrid room at 16:00 to try and get down in a wiki all the of the main points we discussed this week, and discuss next steps. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] last session of emacs addon packaging sprint.
Thomas Koch writes: > On Friday 21 August 2015 12:00:50 David Bremner wrote: >> We'll meet in Madrid room at 16:00 to try and get down in a wiki all the >> of the main points we discussed this week, and discuss next steps. > > I assume David might have liked to use the word "tomorrow" or "saturday" > somehwere in this short message :-) Sorry, yes. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Late Registeration
"Ebrahim A. Senejani" writes: > My name is Ebrahim A. Senejani from Iran and working with Linux from 2002 > and active in Iran Community (Arak Lug, SchooLinux and Tehran Lug) and > educate Linux based on Ubuntu and Debian to many students and their > teachers and some of my colleagues and had so many seminars about Linux and > Open Source. > I have heard late about the DebConf, how can I register for this event and > is it possible to get sponsorship? You can register at https://debconf16.debconf.org I'm afraid you've missed the deadline for application for a travel bursary; the travel rankings are complete and the money is allocated. d signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] [David Bremner] Re: debian emacs stroll
hint, don't reply to debconf-disc...@debian.org, like I did. --- Begin Message --- David Bremner writes: > Sean suggested having some kind of emacs virtual sprint involving those > at DebCamp and those not. I've created a skeletal page at > > https://wiki.debian.org/Sprints/2016/DebianEmacs2016 > We are not overwhelmed with participants, but at least Sean and I will "meet" Thursday and Friday from 14:00 to 15:30 SAST. I'll be around in one of the hacklabs in Fuller if you want to talk about add-on packages for Emacs. signature.asc Description: PGP signature --- End Message --- ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Travel Reimbursement Instructions
Yaa Dufie writes: > Hi, > Been a month and haven't received anything concerning reimbursement and > time is due to pay back loan taken. > SPI (and FFIS for those who submitted there) have confirmed receipt of the reimbursement requests and they are working on them. That's about all I can tell you at this point. d FYI: Both your last message and this one are public. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Arriving at RVC
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > Hi! > > I will be arriving at YUL at 18:50 this evening, I’m currently waiting for my > next flight in Iceland. > > Since frontdesk will be closing at 18:00, should I go to RVC directly? >Will someone be there to hand out the room keys? RVC reception is open 24 hours, and all they need was my last name. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG Keysigning "BoF"
Gunnar Wolf writes: > Chris Boot dijo [Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 11:57:18AM -0400]: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm pondering scheduling a "BoF" for doing some key signing, as it's >> sometimes hard to randomly approach people and ask for signatures—at >> least I find it difficult. > > So, I'd say (as an opinionated person, not as keyring-maint), do it, > but make sure to chat a bit. Don't just focus on getting many > signatures. Due to a scheduling clash, such a session would be helpful for verifying the hash of the ksp*.txt file. d ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] MiniDebConf in April/May 2018 in Hamburg
Holger Levsen writes: > > As for dates, my prefered venue has four options, please comment on their > suitability and other clashing events: > > - April 4th-8th 2018 > - April 18th-22nd 2018 > - May 2nd-6th 2018 > - or May 16th-20th 2018 > For what it's worth (and probably not too much since I don't know how likely I am to attend anyway), the May dates are better for me. I was curious about the potential for combining (yay!) or conflicting with (boo!) Debian Sun Camp. I CC'd Tincho in case he knows something about DSC 2018. cheers, d signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
