Re: [Debconf-discuss] remote participation in DebConf

2014-09-19 Thread Philip Hands
Richard Hartmann  writes:

> Could the video volunteer peek into a dedicated question channel during the
> qa part?

This video volunteer couldn't -- dyslexia means that if I'm IRCing then
I'm not doing anything else (so not directing the video or mixing the
sound or whatever my job was supposed to be as a video volunteer).

I've seen people that think they can multi-task doing a pretty mediocre
job when their attention's elsewhere, and any one of the video jobs can
require all of one's attention at times, particularly in the Q&A sections.

This sounds like a job for a new volunteer, unless people think that
i.e. the talk-meister should have enough spare time at that point in a
talk, but then it needs to be made very clear to the volunteers that that
is part of the role.

Cheers, Phil.
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] remote participation in DebConf

2014-09-19 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Philip Hands  wrote:
> This sounds like a job for a new volunteer, unless people think that
> i.e. the talk-meister should have enough spare time at that point in a
> talk, but then it needs to be made very clear to the volunteers that that
> is part of the role.

The talk-meister may be chasing the next speaker, an adapter, or
whatever for the next talk during the run-out of the current talk.

Other ideas:
* A good seat in the front with a sign "if you sit here, you're the
IRC volunteer"
* The talk-meister designates an IRC volunteer for each talk.
* The talk-meister/video team reminds everyone to look into IRC when
the QA starts.


Richard
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] remote participation in DebConf

2014-09-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Freitag, 19. September 2014, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> Other ideas:
> * A good seat in the front with a sign "if you sit here, you're the
> IRC volunteer"
> * The talk-meister designates an IRC volunteer for each talk.

those two.


cheers,
Holger


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] remote participation in DebConf

2014-09-19 Thread Nicolas Dandrimont
* Holger Levsen  [2014-09-19 11:09:24 +0200]:

> Hi,
> 
> On Freitag, 19. September 2014, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> > Other ideas:
> > * A good seat in the front with a sign "if you sit here, you're the
> > IRC volunteer"
> > * The talk-meister designates an IRC volunteer for each talk.
> 
> those two.

For a few years (3-4?) CCC has had the "signal angel" role which is exactly
this: sit in front, close to a microphone, read IRC, and relay questions.

AFAICT it works pretty well, and it's not a hard job (although it makes it hard
to really follow the talk).

Cheers,
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Nicolas Dandrimont

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wonder if He has a full newsfeed?"
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] remote participation in DebConf

2014-09-19 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nicolas Dandrimont  [2014-09-19 16:05 +0200]:
> For a few years (3-4?) CCC has had the "signal angel" role which
> is exactly this: sit in front, close to a microphone, read IRC,
> and relay questions.

At LISA, sponsored attendees had to sign up and submit summaries for
2 or 3 of the sessions, so we ended up taking notes and writing them
up.

While this is probably not really necessary for DebConf given video
coverage, it does suggest: we could expect our sponsored attendees
to do one or two of these, right?

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[Debconf-discuss] Requiring work in exchange of sponsoring? (was: remote participation in DebConf)

2014-09-19 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud


On 19 septembre 2014 17:17:45 UTC+02:00, martin f krafft  
wrote:
> we could expect our sponsored attendees
> to do one or two of these, right?

I'm increasingly worried by suggestions that sponsoring grants should be 
somehow "paid back" by those getting them, and I think we thould discuss this.

I think it's Okay to _suggest_ available tasks to sponsored attendees (as well 
as to all attendees IMHO), but I don't think it is Okay to _require_ their 
accomplishment.

As I continue to understand it, travel sponsoring exists to enable Debian 
contributors' participation to DebConf's because it enhances Debian through 
their DebConf experience (sense of community, team meetings, etc, etc). 
Sponsoring is not a salary for a work and shouldn't be: it is supposed to 
enable attendance of contributors otherwise unable to attend.
I think sponsoring should bring more "DebConf _attendees_" because of what 
their participation brings to the project, not in return to some mandatory task.

My first DebConf was a tsunami of discoveries and I couldn't have talkmastered, 
helped with video or served at FrontDesk: the conference itself brought more 
than enough to cope with: imposing specific conference tasks would have hurt my 
DebConf experience.

Cheers, OdyX

(Disclaimer: my travels have been partially sponsored in past DebConfs, but 
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] remote participation in DebConf

2014-09-19 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:29:46AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> Richard Hartmann  writes:
> > Could the video volunteer peek into a dedicated question channel during the
> > qa part?
> 
> This video volunteer couldn't -- dyslexia means that if I'm IRCing then
> I'm not doing anything else (so not directing the video or mixing the
> sound or whatever my job was supposed to be as a video volunteer).
> 
> I've seen people that think they can multi-task doing a pretty mediocre
> job when their attention's elsewhere, and any one of the video jobs can
> require all of one's attention at times, particularly in the Q&A sections.
> 
> This sounds like a job for a new volunteer, unless people think that
> i.e. the talk-meister should have enough spare time at that point in a
> talk, but then it needs to be made very clear to the volunteers that that
> is part of the role.

A dedicated irc proxy volunteer is probably what would be wanted. It is
not really a video team task. The talkmeister ought to be watching the
clock and passing the microphone, not looking at irc. (incidentally,
there's no really strong reason the talkmeister has to be a video team
person, either.)

-edrz
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Requiring work in exchange of sponsoring? (was: remote participation in DebConf)

2014-09-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 3:49 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:

> I think it's Okay to _suggest_ available tasks to sponsored attendees (as
> well as to all attendees IMHO), but I don't think it is Okay to _require_
> their accomplishment.

Agreed, thanks for bringing this up.

I also think that volunteering should be suggested (perhaps via a
sign-up board/sheet at front-desk and a mention in the welcome
mail/wiki page) but it should be suggested to *all* attendees,
including those who pay extra to help DebConf financially, definitely
not just to sponsored attendees.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Requiring work in exchange of sponsoring? (was: remote participation in DebConf)

2014-09-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Samstag, 20. September 2014, Paul Wise wrote:
> I also think that volunteering should be suggested (perhaps via a
> sign-up board/sheet at front-desk and a mention in the welcome
> mail/wiki page) but it should be suggested to *all* attendees,
> including those who pay extra to help DebConf financially, definitely
> not just to sponsored attendees.

Agreed, thanks for bringing this up.

;-)


cheers,
Holger



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