Re: [Debconf-discuss] soccer anyone?

2014-08-30 Thread Abhishek Bhattacharjee
I am in. Anytime anyplace for football (soccer in USA).
On Aug 29, 2014 11:50 PM, "Piotr Ożarowski"  wrote:

> time
> 
> Saturday 20:00 PDT
>
> place
> ~
> there's Community Recreation Field, we can ask if they allow futsal in
> Rec Center or there's park - we'll figure it out, like we always do
>
> meeting point
> ~
> outside 1977 SW 6th Avenue (place where you sleep)
>
> who can attend?
> ~~~
> everyone, you don't need proper shoes (right Zack?), you don't even have
> to know the rules, we'll teach you (not the way they teach how to play
> Mao, though ;)
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] soccer anyone?

2014-08-30 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 30/08/14 at 00:08 -0700, Abhishek Bhattacharjee wrote:
> I am in. Anytime anyplace for football (soccer in USA).

+1

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Summit discussion on Thursday, 11:00am (18:00 UTC)

2014-08-30 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Cate,

On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:08:21AM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
> On 27.08.2014 00:26, martin f krafft wrote:
> > as you may know, DC14 uses a new conference management system
> > ("summit") and we are rather happy with it. But there are obviously
> > aspects that need improvement.

> > We will meet on Thursday at 11 in room 338 to discuss the future of
> > Summit and DebConf.

> I've few comments.

> We have some problem on sso, people some are registering with both
> debian and alioth, which cause some confusion.
> Could we link debian and alioth accounts?
> Should we improve the login page?

I had a hallway discussion with Enrico Zini about this here; he's interested
in streamlining the SSO handling to address exactly this, normalizing so
that Debian developers would always log in via Debian SSO and alioth would
be used only for non-DDs.

Implementing this thing we all agree on is left as an exercise for the
relevant system maintainers.

> Maybe we should start again summit from upstream (and with some
> discussion with upstream), so to make think more generalized (for all
> debconf) and cleaner schema.

I disagree.  I think we should instead leverage django's top-notch schema
migration support, to continue forward from our currently working deployment
while normalizing for multiple DebConfs, and working with upstream to merge
our schema extensions.  This lets us carry forward our data intact in a
retrievable fashion.

> [ - On deployment a reference from attendee_id to user_id was lost

I'm not sure what you mean here.

>   - bursaries info are in different table need_food are never in the
> same table as need_accommodation

Yes; they're part of the same django class, which means that the table joins
are transparent if you're using the ORM.  Upstreaming our model extensions
would certainly let us make this simpler for those doing SQL queries.  (And
upstreaming our model extensions would also let us better tailor the code in
various places which I've avoided touching because they would require
extensive changes to cope with our current subclassing.)

> Roles are still confusing (and not so much used). We need to improve
> this, so to delegate more.

What other roles are you looking for here?

> And IMHO we disclose too much information in schedule.

Fix in progress :)

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] soccer anyone?

2014-08-30 Thread Julián Moreno Patiño
Hello,

2014-08-30 2:08 GMT-05:00 Abhishek Bhattacharjee
:
> I am in. Anytime anyplace for football (soccer in USA).

+1

Just tell me the time.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Lunch at Pok Pok tomorrow

2014-08-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Eric Dorland (e...@kuroneko.ca) wrote:
> I'm really interested in trying Pok Pok (a famous Portland Thai
> restaurant: http://www.pokpokpdx.com/) and given the empty morning
> schedule tomorrow I'm planning to go there for lunch and would love
> some company! Let me know if you'd like to join me.
> 
> It is apparently very popular so I was planning on getting there 30
> minutes before its opening (at 11:30), therefore leaving the broadway
> building at 10:30 and taking this route
> (https://goo.gl/maps/YpwPh). There may still be a bit of a wait so
> keep that in mind if you want to join in.
> 

If you'd like to come we'll be meeting in the ground floor lobby of
the Broadway dorms at 10:30 sharp.

And don't listen to Aigars, I'm sure Pok Pok will be the superior food
experience :)

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Lunch at Pok Pok tomorrow

2014-08-30 Thread Patty Langasek
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 06:44:34AM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
> * Eric Dorland (e...@kuroneko.ca) wrote:
> > I'm really interested in trying Pok Pok (a famous Portland Thai

> And don't listen to Aigars, I'm sure Pok Pok will be the superior food
> experience :)


Just to add to confusing. :)

Veritable Quandary near the waterfront has amazing brunch as does Byways
Cafe in the Pearl (MAX ride).

Byways will always have a line. Veritable Quandary rarely has much of a wait
and has FANTASTIC mimosas.  Hint.


[0] http://www.veritablequandary.com/
[1] http://www.bywayscafe.com/

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[Debconf-discuss] Ad-hoc sessions for Saturday, 30 Aug

2014-08-30 Thread Michael Banck
Hi,

Here's today's schedule of ad-hoc meetings:

TimeRoom 327 & 328  Room 329Room 338

10:00 - DebConf organizationTails BoF   (free)
10:45   working group
11:00 - Upstream Guide BoF  Crowdfunding and FOSS   (free)
11:45   Economics discussion
13:30 - UNAVAILABLE UNAVAILABLE UNAVAILABLE
14:15
14:30 - UNAVAILABLE UNAVAILABLE UNAVAILABLE
15:15
16:00 - UNAVAILABLE UNAVAILABLE UNAVAILABLE
16:45
19:00 - UNAVAILABLE UNAVAILABLE UNAVAILABLE
19:45
20:00 - Debian derivatives  DebConf (and DC14)  UNAVAILABLE
20:45   guidelines BoF  Bursaries Team BoF
21:00 - (free)  (free)  UNAVAILABLE
21:45

There are still two free spots for the morning session in room 338, and
for the final slots, just grab the spot on the wiki, after proposing the
session in summit:

https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/AdHocSessions


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] soccer anyone?

2014-08-30 Thread Zlatan Todoric
I`m in :)

On 8/30/14, Julián Moreno Patiño  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> 2014-08-30 2:08 GMT-05:00 Abhishek Bhattacharjee
> :
>> I am in. Anytime anyplace for football (soccer in USA).
>
> +1
>
> Just tell me the time.
>
> Kind regards,
>
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[Debconf-discuss] Regards and happy DebDoncf

2014-08-30 Thread jathan
Hi everyone, I hope you are enjoying this DebConf14 a lot ;)
and an apology for writing near the end. I am Jonathan from Mexico who
went to DebConf12 in Nicaragua to share this wonderful experiencie with
you and made some interviews for my thesis in Sociology. I only want to
say you hello and tell you that I am keep working in this research
regardless of some setbacks I've had over the years because of having to
work and finish University. I will do all the possible to save money
this year and go to the next DebConf in Heidelberg to present my work
finished or at least significant progress, besides to see again to my
great friends that I had the opportunity to know. Have a great time and
enjoy this final DebConf14 days. Regards and a hug!

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[Debconf-discuss] Regards and happy DebConf

2014-08-30 Thread jathan
Hi everyone, I hope you are enjoying this DebConf14 a lot ;)
and an apology for writing near the end. I am Jonathan from Mexico who
went to DebConf12 in Nicaragua to share this wonderful experiencie with
you and made some interviews for my thesis in Sociology. I only want to
say you hello and tell you that I am keep working in this research
regardless of some setbacks I've had over the years because of having to
work and finish University. I will do all the possible to save money
this year and go to the next DebConf in Heidelberg to present my work
finished or at least significant progress, besides to see again to my
great friends that I had the opportunity to know. Have a great time and
enjoy this final DebConf14 days. Regards and a hug!

Jonathan

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian derivatives & DebConf14?

2014-08-30 Thread intrigeri
Hi,

Paul Wise wrote (29 Aug 2014 22:41:20 GMT) :
> If folks want to come I'll register the patches thing for Sunday morning:
> https://summit.debconf.org/debconf14/meeting/131/debian-derivatives-patches-bof/

I'd love to attend, but I'm not available on Sunday morning.
Alternative proposal: tonight, 21:00-21:45.

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[Debconf-discuss] currency exchange

2014-08-30 Thread David Bremner

I have some japanese yen, canadian dollars, and US dollars that I'd be
happy to exchange for euros at some fair rate. Ping me on IRC if you're
interested.  I guess I'd also exchange canadian dollars and/or japanese
yen for US dollars, if it helped somebody out.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] currency exchange

2014-08-30 Thread Zlatan Todoric
Same here - I have dollars to exchange for euros.


On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:30 PM, David Bremner  wrote:

>
> I have some japanese yen, canadian dollars, and US dollars that I'd be
> happy to exchange for euros at some fair rate. Ping me on IRC if you're
> interested.  I guess I'd also exchange canadian dollars and/or japanese
> yen for US dollars, if it helped somebody out.
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[Debconf-discuss] Coffee tomorrow

2014-08-30 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi,

Last Sunday, the Ola Latte cart was open by special arrangement, and
it was good. Is it going to be open tomorrow, does anyone know?

Regards,

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian derivatives & DebConf14?

2014-08-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 11:16 AM, intrigeri wrote:

> I'd love to attend, but I'm not available on Sunday morning.
> Alternative proposal: tonight, 21:00-21:45.

There have been some last-minute changes to the schedule for
derivatives related things:

The general discussion has been moved to one hour later, when the
guidelines BoF was proposed.

I propose that at the end of the general BoF we decide if we want to
go over the guidelines or talk about the patches stuff.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Coffee tomorrow

2014-08-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 01:27:00PM -0700, Matthew Vernon wrote:
> Last Sunday, the Ola Latte cart was open by special arrangement, and
> it was good. Is it going to be open tomorrow, does anyone know?

Yes, it is.  The hours I've been told they'll be open are 9am to 1:30pm.

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[Debconf-discuss] dorm mugs available as free souvenirs

2014-08-30 Thread Allison Randal
We've had a few requests about where to buy mugs like the ones in the
dorm. The dorm management says the mugs in your room are intended for
you to take home, no charge, as a memento of your visit to Portland.

Enjoy!
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[Debconf-discuss] DebConf14 Assassins: last hours

2014-08-30 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
Hello DC14 Assassins players, and attendees,

With less than 6 hours left until the deadline, we still have 24
people playing, and 2 people are tied in the first place with
three ghostifications, so there's still time to become the leader
and win this year's game.

At this point, we won't be accepting new subscriptions, sorry.


DebConf14 Assassins Game Rules:
  https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/Assassins


Remember, if you leave the conference before the end of the game
today, Saturday, August 30th 20h00m local time (PDT), please, tell
assass...@debconf.org so we can re-allocate the targets, that way,
players don't waste time looking for someone that is not here.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf14: Last call for keys for keysigning in Portland, Oregon, USA

2014-08-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 08:58:14AM +1000, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
> > https://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc14/ksp-dc14.txt

> > After downloading the files, check the signatures and then the sha256
> > hashes.

> > The webpage at [0] explains how to do that.

> > [0] https://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc14/ksp-dc14.html

> The encoding for the .txt files is ISO-8859-1.

> Next year it will be UTF-8.

How was this file produced?

caff (from signing-party) has support for reading an annotated
gpgparticipants file as input for ease of signing.  But the file that was
provided for this KSP does not match the format expected by caff (nor the
format generated by current versions of gpgparticipants).

It's a real shame that year over year we aren't getting any better at using
the tools available for running key signing parties efficiently and instead
continue to rely on lots of annoying manual verification and transcription
of checksums on the part of party participants.

It's also a shame that you are publishing supplementary files as part of the
ksp prep that have no relevance to the cryptographic protocol in effect
(such as the condensed file, which is insufficiently condensed for
reasonable printing because it contains information that's superfluous for
note taking, and useless for the actual verification protocol because it
lacks crucial information *and* is not the file we exchange checksums on).

Publishing these supplemental files can only mislead participants into using
them in ways that they should not.

For next year, please correct this.  Publish only the keyring file and the
gpgparticipants output - no superfluous detached signatures, checksum files,
or extra "condensed" text files - and ensure that they work with the
signing-party suite, so that we're able to leverage the work done on
producing small and auditable tools for KSP protocols instead of relying on
excessive and unacceptable amounts of manual and error-prone work on the
part of KSP participants.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Regards and happy DebConf

2014-08-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach jathan  [2014-08-30 05:36 -0700]:
> I will do all the possible to save money this year and go to the
> next DebConf in Heidelberg to present my work finished or at least
> significant progress,

If it's Debian-related, you could also apply for sponsorship!

Thanks for writing in. We hope you can make it next year.

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[Debconf-discuss] Ideas BoF

2014-08-30 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all,

Got brain overload due to DebConf!? Dump your ideas at the BoF
tomorrow 11am in the 2nd floor hacklab. Crazy ideas, hard ideas, easy
ideas, impossible ideas, forgotten ideas, we want them all. Bring your
creativity! No discussion though, just ideas.

https://summit.debconf.org/debconf14/meeting/159/ideas/
https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/AdHocSessions#Sunday.2C_2014-08-31

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[Debconf-discuss] Slides for lightning talks

2014-08-30 Thread martin f krafft
If you want to present slides during your lightning talk tomorrow,
send them to me, so that we can use just one laptop and avoid losing
time.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Lost sweater

2014-08-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2014-08-29 at 08:33 -0700, Gerald Turner wrote:
> Ben Hutchings  writes:
> > I left my white-ish sweater at Puppet Labs after the Cheese & Wine
> > party.  Did anyone pick it up?
> 
> I asked Briana at Puppet Labs on Tuesday, they said they sweeped the
> place (while looking for Holger's backpack) and did not find your
> sweater or anything else :(

Thank you for checking.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] @DebConf on Twitter

2014-08-30 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi,

On 25/08/14 at 11:48 -0700, John Sullivan wrote:
> martin f krafft  writes:
> 
> > So I control the Twitter @DebConf handle. If you have experience
> > with managing such a handle and/or would be willing to engage in
> > retweeting, or have other ideas to increase visibilty of DebConf,
> > please come and talk to me.
> 
> Is there a handle on the pump.io or StatusNet network as well? 
> 
> (I use pumpa in Debian for posting to pump.io.)

What's the status of pump.io support in Debian nowadays? 
I'm assuming that pump.io is the only server-side software, but isn't
packaged yet (ITP #726486)? Or are there alternatives?

Are there people running Debian-friendly nodes? Would it make sense to
have a debian.net or debian.org one? What would it take?

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] @DebConf on Twitter

2014-08-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:

> What's the status of pump.io support in Debian nowadays?

The client support is quite good, as well as the web interface we have
desktop UIs (for eg Dianara) and libraries (for eg python-pypump).

> I'm assuming that pump.io is the only server-side software, but isn't
> packaged yet (ITP #726486)? Or are there alternatives?

Still quite a few deps aren't in Debian yet:

https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs/Tasks/Pump.io

> Are there people running Debian-friendly nodes? Would it make sense to
> have a debian.net or debian.org one? What would it take?

Looks like most people just use identi.ca accounts:

https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Publicity/Identica

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] @DebConf on Twitter

2014-08-30 Thread Alex Jordan
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Paul Wise  wrote:

> Looks like most people just use identi.ca accounts:

Note, however, that identi.ca no longer accepts registration, in order
to preserve the federated properties of the network.
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[Debconf-discuss] check-out hints

2014-08-30 Thread Steve Langasek
As DebConf comes to a close and the masses prepare to depart, some brief
notes about leaving.

 * Check-out time from the PSU dorms is 10am on your scheduled day of
   departure.  If you need to check out after this time, you will need to
   make arrangements with the PSU front desk in Broadway 210.

 * On your check-out day, if you are a sponsored attendee, breakfast and
   lunch are both included in the meal plan; dinner is not.  (If you are
   checking out tomorrow - Sunday - brunch is included.)

 * If you are going back to the airport, note that the first MAX of the
   morning arrives at 4:45am; if you need to be at the airport earlier than
   this, please make appropriate alternate plans.  And the goodbye page in
   the wiki with transit details is the same as the welcome page:
   https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/Welcome#More_details

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