Re: [Debconf-discuss] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (hectic announcement)

2009-07-16 Thread Martín Ferrari
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 20:38, Christian Perrier wrote:

> Of course, that will, as usual, require participation by attendees,
> particularly the French gang, to bring enough material for it.

The not-french-but-living-in-france gang would be delighted to
contribute, but they probably would need help choosing cheese :)

(It's been three months here, eating cheese almost everyday, and I
still don't know more than a tiny fraction of the cheeses here)

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[Debconf-discuss] utf8? (was: Re: keysig ning in Cáceres: list and keyring files were re leased)

2009-07-16 Thread Joost van Baal
Hi,

Op Thu 16 Jul 2009 om 01:46:39 +1000 schreef Aníbal Monsalve Salazar:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 08:47:13PM +1000, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
> >The kesignings in Cáceres during DebConf9 will be done as
> >suggested by Don Armstrong in his mail message available at:
> >
> >  http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20090623.174353.1b5c91ec.en.html
> >
> >There is an extension to the deadline. The new deadline is 23:59 UTC on
> >Wednesday 15th of July, 2009.
> 
> Both list and keyring files were uploaded to
> http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc9/

Is it just me, or is the 5th uid of Damyan Ivanov garbled due to encoding
errors in the file?  I'd like to have a copy of the file in utf8 encoding.
Aníbal: could you upload such a file?

Thanks, Bye,

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (hectic announcement)

2009-07-16 Thread César Gómez Martín
Not all the good cheeses and wines are made in France ;)

In Extremadura there are probably better cheeses and wines than in
France (touché), so you can also go to a shop here and buy good stuff
for the party :P

Best regards,
César.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Christian Perrier wrote:
> No Debconf without Cheese and Wine party, that's at least true
> since Debconf 5 in Helsinki.
>
> So, DC9 will not be an exception and we will again have a C&W party.
>
> The event is, from what I see in Penta, officially scheduled for
> Saturday July 25th, 21:30 local time.
>
> Of course, that will, as usual, require participation by attendees,
> particularly the French gang, to bring enough material for it.
>
> The principle is easy: attendees do their best to bring *good* cheese
> and|or *good* wine or liquors from their own place and we all share
> this in the best suitable place we can find for this.
>
> If you can't bring anythingyou're still highly welcome. We need
> many people to come and be sure that nothing is left at the end.
>
> Don't expect something very organized: everybody is free to come and
> join. Don't feel like you *have* to bring something to participate: we
> all know this is not always easy when travelling, sometimes for a long
> time. Cheese is still considered as dangerous material in many places
> and as a military weapon in some others..:-)
>
> The main rationale should be, as usual in Debian: focus on quality. If
> something from your place|country|region seems worth being discovered
> by Debconf attendees, you can certainly bring it and share. The last
> C&W have already proven that Debconf attendees enjoy good food and
> drinks.
>
> Cheese should be the main topic of the even, along with wine, of
> course. This is the spirit of the event and it should remain as is.
>
> Spain is a very cheese-friendly country...so let's take advantage of this..:-)
>
> One should also remember that "cheese party" generally means "cheese
> AND WINE party", which generally extends to "cheese and wine and
> anything containing ethanol as long as this is good stuff" party.
>
> All this information is meant to be turned into a wiki pageif I
> manage to find time for this, preferrably not at the last minute..:-)
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] keysigning in Cáceres: list and keyring files were released

2009-07-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:46:39PM +1000, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
>On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 08:47:13PM +1000, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
>>The kesignings in Cáceres during DebConf9 will be done as
>>suggested by Don Armstrong in his mail message available at:
>>
>>  http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20090623.174353.1b5c91ec.en.html
>>
>>There is an extension to the deadline. The new deadline is 23:59 UTC on
>>Wednesday 15th of July, 2009.
>
>Both list and keyring files were uploaded to
>http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc9/


Photo UIDs are missing.

Those of us providing a photo id embedded in our key would probably all 
appreciate them being signed.

Could you perhaps include those UIDs with the SHA1sum of their contents 
to the sheet, for those that care to do the extra work of verifying both 
checksums and visual ressemblance?



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Re: [Debconf-discuss] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (hectic announcement)

2009-07-16 Thread Christian Perrier
César Gómez Martín a écrit :
> Not all the good cheeses and wines are made in France ;)
> 
> In Extremadura there are probably better cheeses and wines than in
> France (touché), so you can also go to a shop here and buy good stuff
> for the party :P

*That* is the duty of the local participants (and I confirm that
Extremadura cheese is, imho, among the best in Spainthough I do not
confirm César's science fiction...:-)

Martin, where do you live in France? I can then give you hints about
what regional cheese you can bring (hint: to get the best, go to a local
street market and spot local producers).

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (hectic announcement)

2009-07-16 Thread César Gómez Martín
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Christian Perrier wrote:
> César Gómez Martín a écrit :
>> Not all the good cheeses and wines are made in France ;)
>>
>> In Extremadura there are probably better cheeses and wines than in
>> France (touché), so you can also go to a shop here and buy good stuff
>> for the party :P
>
> *That* is the duty of the local participants (and I confirm that
> Extremadura cheese is, imho, among the best in Spainthough I do not
> confirm César's science fiction...:-)

Let's see on the C&W :P
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[Debconf-discuss] Condensed keylist to print out

2009-07-16 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

as last year, I’m consensing the list that I print out considerably: It
gets this format:

SHA256 Checksum: 314F 1126 E119 F139 871E 356F FCFB 7310
 B818 6959 6A57 4224 24A2 114C CB4B 4CA3  [ ]
#1   Adam D. Barratt (rank: 70 123) Key [ ] Id [ ]
345E3A85: In [] Out ()
C542CD59: In [] Out (  )
#2   Aigars Mahinovs (rank: 26 93) Key [ ] Id [ ]
67209BDE: In [SS  ] Out (S S S   )
1D227AFB: In [] Out (  )
[..]

which should be all that’s needing during the (long-running) keysigning
event. The list fits on two A4 page. The script to generate it
(including the call to enscrpit) is on 
http://people.debian.org/~nomeata/debconf9-signing-party/condense-keysign-list.tar.gz
You need to adjust the key-ids in generate.sh, and if you want the
"In []"-parts to align even when empty, you need to adjust that
in the code.

I also tried to generate a graph of the current signatures as on 
http://people.debian.org/~nomeata/debconf8-signing-party/debconf8-before.png
but it seems it’s too large this time:

$ cat gen-before.sh 
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (hectic announcement)

2009-07-16 Thread Martín Ferrari
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:39, Christian Perrier wrote:

> Martin, where do you live in France? I can then give you hints about
> what regional cheese you can bring (hint: to get the best, go to a local
> street market and spot local producers).

In Côte d'Azur, near Nice. I haven't got the opportunity to go to a
street market, but I can try...

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[Debconf-discuss] Arriving late at night

2009-07-16 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

my train will arrive on Monday at 1:51am at the Caceres train station.
Two quick questions about that:

Is it safe to walk to the venue at that time of day and will the
reception be open? If it is not open, what should I do to get to my
room?

Thanks,
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Arriving late at night

2009-07-16 Thread Anto Recio
ok, dont worry, the resident is open all night, ask in the recepción for 
your room, the best is  in taxi ,walk is safeli, but all is dark at night ;)

best
Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> my train will arrive on Monday at 1:51am at the Caceres train station.
> Two quick questions about that:
>
> Is it safe to walk to the venue at that time of day and will the
> reception be open? If it is not open, what should I do to get to my
> room?
>
> Thanks,
> Joachim
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[Debconf-discuss] Are you happy with pentabarf?

2009-07-16 Thread Ana Guerrero

... because i am not.

Please, pretty please, let's stop using pentabarf for next debconf.
The system is aimed to control so many stuff that does not do anything right.

- Some people register believing they set some options and it says others. It
  is not their browsers problems, it is penta interface.
- Code stuff can only be changed for a few people, and they are not always
  available.
- Send patches is not easy, you have to put all the RoR stuff, then the needed
  modules, then install penta. It is a pain.
- Using the administrative interface it is frustrating. I have lost so far more
  time dealing with penta and its problems to add the schedule than creating the
  schedule.

I prefer to deal with 2-3 simle CRUD system to different data even if data are 
not shared between them, but dealing with the data correctly. Penta is supposed 
to shared the data and tell you about conflicts, etc, but it is not do it in a
intuitive and clear way, so in the end you do not get data shared and the 
system 
create you news problems.

This is so crappy as the renfe website, with the difference we deal with the
system problems.

Ana
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Second room draft - Please check!

2009-07-16 Thread Torsten Werner
Hi Jonathan,

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> http://the.earth.li/~noodles/dc9-rooms-draft-2

I am getting an error 404. Is there a new room allocation somewhere?

Cheers,
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Second room draft - Please check!

2009-07-16 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi!


Torsten Werner schrieb:

>> http://the.earth.li/~noodles/dc9-rooms-draft-2
> I am getting an error 404. Is there a new room allocation somewhere?

Moved to http://the.earth.li/~noodles/dc9-rooms-final-2

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party: Wiki page

2009-07-16 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:38:00 +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:

> C&W9 now has its wiki page:
> http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf9/CheeseWineBoF

The first cheeses are already in the fridge behind the reception :)

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (hectic announcement)

2009-07-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Martín Ferrari (martin.ferr...@gmail.com):
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:39, Christian Perrier wrote:
> 
> > Martin, where do you live in France? I can then give you hints about
> > what regional cheese you can bring (hint: to get the best, go to a local
> > street market and spot local producers).
> 
> In Côte d'Azur, near Nice. I haven't got the opportunity to go to a
> street market, but I can try...

You might want to seek for goat cheese on a street market in
Nice. Even though I'm not very familiar with the local markets, this
is what I would be seeking for in that neighbourhood.

There is no specific name to seek for as there is no (TTBOMK)
"Appellation d'origine contrôlée"
(http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appellation_d'origine_contrôlée) brand
in Nice and surrounding area for cheese...but I bet you can find very
good locally produced goat cheese.



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Re: [Debconf-discuss] (Mobile) IP Connectivity in Spain

2009-07-16 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 04:09:42PM +0200, Hector Oron wrote:
> * SIMYO
>   --
> https://www.simyo.es/simyo/portal/store/select-data-priceplan
>

You need to buy this one by internet and have an address in Spain for the
delivery. It takes at least one week, so this one is not a possibility.


Ana

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] utf8? (was: Re: keysig ning in Cáceres: list and keyring files were re leased)

2009-07-16 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-=| Joost van Baal, Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 09:52:48AM +0200 |=-
> > Both list and keyring files were uploaded to
> > http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc9/
> 
> Is it just me, or is the 5th uid of Damyan Ivanov garbled due to encoding
> errors in the file?  I'd like to have a copy of the file in utf8 encoding.
> Aníbal: could you upload such a file?

This is some caveat of gpg maybe? Anyway, the text should read "Дамян 
Иванов". This is my name written in Cyrillics.

Changing this in your local copy will change che checksum, so it 
better be done in the master copy.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] keysigning in Cáceres: list and keyring files were released

2009-07-16 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-=| Aníbal Monsalve Salazar, Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:46:39PM +1000 |=-
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 08:47:13PM +1000, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
> >The kesignings in Cáceres during DebConf9 will be done as
> >suggested by Don Armstrong in his mail message available at:
> >
> >  http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20090623.174353.1b5c91ec.en.html
> >
> >There is an extension to the deadline. The new deadline is 23:59 UTC on
> >Wednesday 15th of July, 2009.
> 
> Both list and keyring files were uploaded to
> http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc9/

This file is one big list. No groups are noted. This seems to 
contradict with the top of the quote above.

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[Debconf-discuss] Madrid 17/07/2009: 3 DDs looking for lodgement

2009-07-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Heya,
  we (me, Luca Capello, and Roland Mas) are traveling to DebConf9 by
motorbike. We plan to spend tomorrow night (i.e., the night between
July 17th and July 18th) in Madrid.

In case someone is still around in the city and has not left yet for
DebConf9, we offer to pay cerveza(s[s]) y tapa(s[s]) in exchange of
couch-surfing for 3 (maybe smelly, given the local temperatures)
people.

In case you are "interested", please send an SMS to one of our mobile
phones, we'll call you back :-)

  Gismo +41 79 321 7613
  Lo-Lan-Do +33 6 2249 9591
  Zack  +39 392 5140154

Of course, even if you can't offer lodgement, we'll be happy to spend
the evening with whoever of you is around, even if we'll be a bit sad
about having less money to invest in beer.

Thanks!

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[Debconf-discuss] food at Chamartin station

2009-07-16 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all,

For those of you with a while at Chamartin station waiting for a train
to Caceres and are very hungry, faw and I found a 9€ all-you-can-eat
place. Very friendly to vegetarians, lots of salads, pizza, pasta,
soup, deserts (inc ice cream). Outside across the road filled with
taxis, look for the green restaurant to the right side of the sunlit
plaza. I helpfully forgot the name, sorry :(

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Condensed keylist to print out

2009-07-16 Thread Sami Liedes
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:58:58AM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> I also tried to generate a graph of the current signatures as on 
> http://people.debian.org/~nomeata/debconf8-signing-party/debconf8-before.png
> but it seems it’s too large this time:
> 
> $ cat gen-before.sh 
> gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring ./debconf9-before.gpg --list-sigs 
> $( $ ./gen-before.sh
> [..]
> fdp: failure to create cairo surface: out of memory
> ./gen-before.sh: line 1:  6924 Donegpg 
> --no-default-keyring --keyring ./debconf9-before.gpg --list-sigs $(   6925   | sig2dot -a
>   6927 Speicherzugriffsfehler  | fdp -Tpng -o debconf9-before.png

I managed to generate such a graph with -Tsvg, and inkscape opens it
quite nicely (doesn't even seem very slow to me). If you for some
reason wanted to export a huge png from it, I guess that might be
possible too.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] keysigning in Cáceres: list and keyring files were released

2009-07-16 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:09:19AM +0300, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
>-=| Aníbal Monsalve Salazar, Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:46:39PM +1000 |=-
>>On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 08:47:13PM +1000, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
>>>The kesignings in Cáceres during DebConf9 will be done as
>>>suggested by Don Armstrong in his mail message available at:
>>>
>>>  http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20090623.174353.1b5c91ec.en.html
>>>
>>>There is an extension to the deadline. The new deadline is 23:59 UTC on
>>>Wednesday 15th of July, 2009.
>>
>>Both list and keyring files were uploaded to
>>http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc9/
>
>This file is one big list. No groups are noted. This seems to 
>contradict with the top of the quote above.

I'll fix that today by updating the webpage.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] keysigning in Cáceres: list and keyring files were released

2009-07-16 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:24:43AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>Hash: SHA512
>
>On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:46:39PM +1000, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
>>On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 08:47:13PM +1000, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
>>>The kesignings in Cáceres during DebConf9 will be done as
>>>suggested by Don Armstrong in his mail message available at:
>>>
>>>  http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20090623.174353.1b5c91ec.en.html
>>>
>>>There is an extension to the deadline. The new deadline is 23:59 UTC on
>>>Wednesday 15th of July, 2009.
>>
>>Both list and keyring files were uploaded to
>>http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc9/
>
>Photo UIDs are missing.

Sorry but I didn't have the time to make the changes to include the
photo UIDs. I'll introduce them next time around.

>Those of us providing a photo id embedded in our key would probably all 
>appreciate them being signed.
>
>Could you perhaps include those UIDs with the SHA1sum of their contents 
>to the sheet, for those that care to do the extra work of verifying both 
>checksums and visual ressemblance?

I'll try to include them in the names webpage and put them in an extra
text file.
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