Re: [Debconf-discuss] Sauna, Pool, Gym and running

2008-08-05 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 06:28:04AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Margarita Manterola wrote:
> 
> > I was thinking of 8:00 or maybe 8:30, so that we could run for an hour,
> > have a shower and still make it to breakfast.  But I guess that it's better
> > to ask those interested.
> 
> Well, breakfast at 9:00.  This scratches the topic we discussed here
> at dinner:  I somehow used kind of a German schedule and even the Germans
> asked me to shift everything by one hour.  So please tell me honestly:
> Is starting at 9:00 with the keynote tasks fine or not?  I do not want
> to "Germanise" or to "Grandfatherise" the whole conference by my personal
> inner clock.  Just pronounce your opinion about when to start the first
> talk ...

I would have preferred to start a bit later (9h30 or 10h) but it might
be a bit late to change that now ? 

-Ralf.
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Sauna, Pool, Gym and running

2008-08-05 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 08:20:54AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Quoting Margarita Manterola ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > I was thinking of 8:00 or maybe 8:30, so that we could run for an hour,
> > have a shower and still make it to breakfast.  But I guess that it's better
> > to ask those interested.
> 
> 
> I'm among those interested people, for sure.

Me too! I'll bring a GPS device so that we'll have exact logs of our 
achievements :-)

> I tend to run at various times in the day. Generally, early morning is
> OK. 08:00 makes it faily late for people who don't want to miss the
> earlier talks so I'd suggest 07:30. However, from what I remember from
> earlier Debconfs and, except at the very beginning when half of the
> people are still jetlagged, that doesn't bring that many people..:-)
> 
> So, we might maybe schedule some late runs as well, at the end of the
> day or so.

Would it be possible to run in the late afternoon between the last talk
and dinner? Might be a good idea after sitting most of the day in a
conference room.

See you all soon in MDQ -Ralf.
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[Debconf-discuss] Laundry service?

2008-08-05 Thread Andrew Saunders
Heya all,

Was just wondering: does the hotel have a laundry service? (Just so I can
plan how many changes of clothes I need to bring).

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Laundry service?

2008-08-05 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:54:02PM +0100, Andrew Saunders wrote:
> Heya all,
> 
> Was just wondering: does the hotel have a laundry service? (Just so I can
> plan how many changes of clothes I need to bring).
>

Yes and there are laundries nearby, you will be given mroe info in the
orientation sheet when you arrive.

Ana
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[Debconf-discuss] start conference/talks later/10h [was: Re: Sauna, Pool, Gym and running]

2008-08-05 Thread Noel Köthe
Hello,

Andreas Tille schrieb:

>> I was thinking of 8:00 or maybe 8:30, so that we could run for an hour,
>> have a shower and still make it to breakfast.  But I guess that it's better
>> to ask those interested.
> 
> Well, breakfast at 9:00.  This scratches the topic we discussed here
> at dinner:  I somehow used kind of a German schedule and even the Germans
> asked me to shift everything by one hour.  So please tell me honestly:
> Is starting at 9:00 with the keynote tasks fine or not?  I do not want
> to "Germanise" or to "Grandfatherise" the whole conference by my personal
> inner clock.  Just pronounce your opinion about when to start the first
> talk ...

I would prefer to start talks/bofs/conference at 10h. Breakfast at 9h
collides always with the first talk an afaik dinner is late, too (21-23?) so
we could/should adapt our schedule with the meals.:)
Then people can sleep longer without missing anything. With the not very 
full
schedule there is imho no need to start early to get everthing done. I 
agree it
might be a bit late for this change but we are flexible and we will not 
loose
anything.
Regards

Noel
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf8 bus from EZE to MDQ

2008-08-05 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:14:33AM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:55:43 +0200, Luca Capello wrote:
> 
> > > I tried using the form on their website to request a reservation but it
> > > didn't work so I emailed their reservas email address and have yet to
> > > receive a response.
> > FWIW, I booked my seat last Monday and they confirmed it the very same
> > day.
> 
> Interesting, I still haven't received an answer although I sent two
> mails (20th and 27th July).
> 

I've just got this back today:

TIMADO NEIL:
LAMENTABLEMENTE YA NO DISPONEMOS DE ASIENTOS EN NUESTRO SERVICIO DE BUS
POSTERIOR A LA LLEGADA DE SU VUELO (21.30 HORAS DEL DIA 08 DE AGOSTO), TAMPOCO
EN LOS SUBSIGUIENTES DEL DIA 9.
SOLO PODEMOS OFRECERLE EFECTUAR UNA RESERVA EN LISTA DE ESPERA A LAS 21.30
HORAS.
QUEDAMOS AL AGUARDO DE SU RESPUESTA.
SALUDOS.
MAURO MARTIN CLAUSEN

Any idea what a) it means or b) I should do now? :)

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Sauna, Pool, Gym and running

2008-08-05 Thread Tim Retout
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 22:29 -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote:
> I was thinking of 8:00 or maybe 8:30, so that we could run for an hour,
> have a shower and still make it to breakfast.  But I guess that it's better
> to ask those interested.

For myself, I went running at 8:30 this morning, but I could happily
have managed earlier.  I've no idea whether I'm cut out for running with
other people, though. :)

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Cheese and Wine party

2008-08-05 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 02:18 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> After the experience of Gustavo Noronha Silva I wonder whether some
> wrappings might be equipped with RFID.  How else did custom find out

Nah, the cheese I brought was actually bought in a public market, and
the wrappings were ad-hoc at best. They found it because of its format
is my guess. Actually, if the cheese was wrapped in some kind of highly
technological wrapping which also had sanitary information, it seemed to
me like they would have allowed it in, since they did allow some candies
I brough.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf8 bus from EZE to MDQ

2008-08-05 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 13:22 +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
> TIMADO NEIL:

Dear Neil,

> LAMENTABLEMENTE YA NO DISPONEMOS DE ASIENTOS EN NUESTRO SERVICIO DE BUS
> POSTERIOR A LA LLEGADA DE SU VUELO (21.30 HORAS DEL DIA 08 DE AGOSTO), TAMPOCO
> EN LOS SUBSIGUIENTES DEL DIA 9.

Unfortunately we no longer have seats available in our bus service after
your flight arrives (21:30, August 8th), nor in the buses of the 9th of
August.

> SOLO PODEMOS OFRECERLE EFECTUAR UNA RESERVA EN LISTA DE ESPERA A LAS 21.30
> HORAS.

We can only offer you to provide a reservation in the waiting list for
the 21:30 time.

> QUEDAMOS AL AGUARDO DE SU RESPUESTA.

We await your answer.

> Any idea what a) it means or b) I should do now? :)

a) my own translation should be good enough, hehe b) you'll want to get
a cab to the Retiro bus station in Buenos Aires, and buy a bus ticket
there to Mar del Plata. See Amaya's email for more information on this!
=)

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Cheese and Wine party

2008-08-05 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:39:44 -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:

> > After the experience of Gustavo Noronha Silva I wonder whether some
> > wrappings might be equipped with RFID.  How else did custom find out
> Nah, the cheese I brought was actually bought in a public market, and
> the wrappings were ad-hoc at best.

FWIW: Nobody at EZE airport detected and/or cared about the cheese in
my luggage (not "sealed", not hidden, nothing special).

Cheers,
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Cheese and Wine party

2008-08-05 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:02:18PM -0300, gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:39:44 -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> > > After the experience of Gustavo Noronha Silva I wonder whether some
> > > wrappings might be equipped with RFID.  How else did custom find out
> > Nah, the cheese I brought was actually bought in a public market, and
> > the wrappings were ad-hoc at best.
> FWIW: Nobody at EZE airport detected and/or cared about the cheese in
> my luggage (not "sealed", not hidden, nothing special).

Joachim, Frank and I didn't have our luggage checked at all at customs
of EZE.  We were able to just walk besides and thru all checks.

I don't know if they screen it in Argentina before they put it onto the
transport belt, but I would also expect my luggage to be scanned at
the departure airport.

Now on the other hand nobody of us tried to bring cheese...  */me hides*

Kind regards,
Philipp Kern


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[Debconf-discuss] Clarification of my "situation" at DebConf

2008-08-05 Thread gacq
I'm one of the people who Orga Team has punished because of the hotel
registration issue.

First of all is important for you to understand that I did not check-in
with neither my own name nor another person's name because I did not
check-in at all when I arrived. We arrived approximately at 13hs after
driving 400 Km from Buenos Aires city and I went directly to park the
car and after that, to have lunch. I have no idea what happened at the
hotel reception, I did no participate in the check-in process. That
means that the only one fact that Orga Team have against me is not true!!

I'm not stupid, I already know that my hotel reservation starts from
Saturday 9th and I planned to contact Orga team during that day to make
the arrangements to stay one night to help on the debconf setup, I have
experience organizing these kinds of events and I know that's common to
change dates on-the-fly when you receive people from all parts of the world.

Unfortunately Orga Team judged me within the 3 hours from my arrival and
before I had the chance to give any sort of explanation, they sentenced
for me, having no right to defend myself, or explain whatsoever.

After Orga team communicated us the decision, we tried to talk about
this, but we always got the same answer, "the decision was taken and
cannot be changed"... at the end of that horrible day, and without our
complete sponsorship, we decide to return to Buenos Aires. You can
figure out why I said "horrible day" and why we had to back home reading
this post [1].

There is no justification to give this treatment to a volunteer who is
tying to help debconf set up, you should review this irrational
situation, and understand the big mistake the Orga Team has made, before
something like this happens again.

[1] http://mltplanet.livejournal.com/582.html

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf8 bus from EZE to MDQ

2008-08-05 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
El martes,  5 de agosto de 2008 a las 13:22:06 +0100, Neil McGovern escribía:

> I've just got this back today:
> LAMENTABLEMENTE YA NO DISPONEMOS DE ASIENTOS EN NUESTRO SERVICIO DE BUS
> POSTERIOR A LA LLEGADA DE SU VUELO (21.30 HORAS DEL DIA 08 DE AGOSTO),
> TAMPOCO EN LOS SUBSIGUIENTES DEL DIA 9. SOLO PODEMOS OFRECERLE EFECTUAR
> UNA RESERVA EN LISTA DE ESPERA A LAS 21.30 HORAS. QUEDAMOS AL AGUARDO DE
> SU RESPUESTA.
> Any idea what a) it means or b) I should do now? :)

 It means that they don't have any seats remaining for the August 8th, 21:30
bus, and neither for any bus on August 9th. They can only put you on the
waiting list for the 21:30 bus, and they await your response.

 On debconf-announce, I think, Marga published a message with several
alternatives.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Sauna, Pool, Gym and running

2008-08-05 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Tuesday 05 August 2008 01:28, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Is starting at 9:00 with the keynote tasks fine or not? 

I think 10:00 is better. Maybe we should discuss and decide this here as part 
of a RL meeting?


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Sauna, Pool, Gym and running

2008-08-05 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.08.05.1635 -0300]:
> I think 10:00 is better. Maybe we should discuss and decide this
> here as part of a RL meeting?

What's there to discuss? Just put your foot down! :)

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf8 bus from EZE to MDQ

2008-08-05 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Just for completeness sake, and for its entertainment value...

Neil McGovern dijo [Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:22:06PM +0100]:
> I've just got this back today:
> 
> TIMADO NEIL:

This would mean, "ripped-off Neil". I would expect this mail to start
with "Estimado Neil", in any case.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Sauna, Pool, Gym and running

2008-08-05 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Andreas Tille dijo [Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 06:28:04AM +0200]:
> Well, breakfast at 9:00.  This scratches the topic we discussed here
> at dinner:  I somehow used kind of a German schedule and even the Germans
> asked me to shift everything by one hour.  So please tell me honestly:
> Is starting at 9:00 with the keynote tasks fine or not?  I do not want
> to "Germanise" or to "Grandfatherise" the whole conference by my personal
> inner clock.  Just pronounce your opinion about when to start the first
> talk ...

If you are still in the position to change them, I'd prefer the day to
start a bit earlier - and not because I sleep late, but because I
appreciate less haste after excercise. And because many people do
sleep late.

> Back to running one other question:  What is the surface quality of the
> trail you want to run: It is concrete or some other hard surface or
> a park trail with kind of soft surface?
> 
> Keen on pulling on my running shoes

So far, I've only seen concrete surface (unless you want to run on
sand, but that's completely out of question for me). The weather is
quite pleasant for excercise, even if I would consider it too cold for
mostly anything else (but I love it after all :) )

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[Debconf-discuss] Debian Perl Group meeting at DebCamp - 2008-08-06

2008-08-05 Thread gregor herrmann
Hi,

now that a couple of members of the Debian Perl Group have arrived at
Mar del Plata, we [0] propose to have a meeting for discussing some
points in real life.

When: Wednesday, 2008-08-06, 11:00 (UTC-3)
Where: Salón de Mar ("larger talk room", 7th floor)

A list of potential discussion points can be found at
http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianPerlGroup/OpenTasks -- feel free
to add anything that comes to your mind!

We will try to arrange a simultaneous video transmission (i.e. act as
guinea pigs for the video team :)) - but we cannot promise it yet.
(Please drop by on IRC - #debian-perl or #debconf - for details.)

See you tomorrow,
gregor


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[Debconf-discuss] Panoramic photography DebCamp 04/08

2008-08-05 Thread Valessio S Brito
http://valessiobrito.info/fts/dc8/extras/DebCamp04082008.jpg

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