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> Vote for some one who promises freedom,democracy and > development. Is that so hard? Freedom means what to you? Getting to vote once every four or five years on what direction your country is going to take? What if freedom means an anarchive un-state? Being forced to subjugate your views to those of others on the basis of your geographical locality, while being prevented from gathering with others who may share your political views in sufficient numbers such as to be able to succesfully secede is not freedom. What is development? Market liberalisation? Socialism? Statism or the removal of the state aparatus? In statist, capitalist democracy, reduce or increase taxes? Remove or increase social welfare and support? Permit or restrict immigration? If you are sold on blanket, unqualified terms such as 'freedom', 'development' and 'democracy', and are willing to accept the empty rhetoric espoused by most politicians without critical analysis, then you'd probably make a good subject of the current system. Or am I wrong? -- Andrew G. Thomas
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I am Andrew Sowho, We have not had the pleasure of each others acquaintance but I hope this will be remedied soon. I am in search of an Investment Manager who can invest and manage the sum of Sixteen Million United States Dollars into a viable endeavour, capable of yielding reasonable annual return as profit on principal amount invested. Given the antecedent of the ownership of the fuuds.I need someone who can clear the funds into his/her account , carry out the actual business and remit profit to my account without trouble.For avoidance of doubt, I require someone to be my eyes,ears and hands , someone who is reliable and trustworthy and above all cautious. should you be interested and capable please contact me via email for further details. I will not contact anyother person until I hear from you.
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I am Andrew Sowho, We have not had the pleasure of each others acquaintance but I hope this will be remedied soon. I am in search of an Investment Manager who can invest and manage the sum of Sixteen Million United States Dollars into a viable endeavour, capable of yielding reasonable annual return as profit on principal amount invested. Given the antecedent of the ownership of the fuuds.I need someone who can clear the funds into his/her account , carry out the actual business and remit profit to my account without trouble.For avoidance of doubt, I require someone to be my eyes,ears and hands , someone who is reliable and trustworthy and above all cautious. should you be interested and capable please contact me via email for further details. I will not contact anyother person until I hear from you.
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I am Andrew Sowho, We have not had the pleasure of each others acquaintance but I hope this will be remedied soon. I am in search of an Investment Manager who can invest and manage the sum of Sixteen Million United States Dollars into a viable endeavour, capable of yielding reasonable annual return as profit on principal amount invested. Given the antecedent of the ownership of the fuuds.I need someone who can clear the funds into his/her account , carry out the actual business and remit profit to my account without trouble.For avoidance of doubt, I require someone to be my eyes,ears and hands , someone who is reliable and trustworthy and above all cautious. should you be interested and capable please contact me via email for further details. I will not contact anyother person until I hear from you.
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Re: SHA-1 broken?
All this chatter and everyone pointing to the same page ... but no paper, no proof ... just mindless chatter. Anyone know where this ghost paper is? pgpufblUQzI8b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SHA-1 broken? (~Real Info)
A brief(!) summary by the authors of the SHA-1 Collisions found: http://theory.csail.mit.edu/~yiqun/shanote.pdf Not much is said, but its definately more to talk about. On 0, "Andrew S. Morrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All this chatter and everyone pointing to the same page ... but no paper, > no proof ... just mindless chatter. > > Anyone know where this ghost paper is? pgpsTAq5fzkAC.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Where's Osama? (Re: OPPOSE THE WAR! We are going to ruin Iraq to get the oil. Who's next)
> Is there any overwhelming reason to believe that going back to >Iraq would be any different? Short answer: yes. Long answer: I'm no expert, but a friend of mine in the military suggested that invading Iraq now would be a lot different than the Gulf War. He said that urban combat, which will be necessary to depose Hussein, is the most difficult and dangerous type of combat there is. The Gulf War was fought on a flat plane with no obstructions or terrain differences (the desert) where superior fire power has a great advantage. Other reasons to think that invading Iraq this time will be much more difficult and likely cause many more U.S. causalities include: 1. The troops the U.S. fought against in the Gulf War were mainly recent conscripts with little training or motivation. Taking Baghdad will require fighting veteran republican guard troops. 2. There is no clear objective to this invasion of Iraq besides deposing Hussein. Ignoring the long-term consequences of this invasion (which is the usual practice), the short-term prospects aren't good. There is no readily available alternate government to install in Hussein's place. The resulting destabilization in the region will likely result in a U.S. military presense in the country for a much longer time than in the Gulf War. -Andy
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Mr.Andrew Davis, Manager, Lloyds TSB Bank, 33-33a, King's road,Chelsea, SW3 4LX Private e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sir First, I must solicit your confidence in this transaction, this is by virtue of its nature as being utterly confidential and top secret. Though I know that a transaction of this magnitude will make any one apprehensive and worried. But I am assuring you that all will be well at the end of the day. W e have decided to contact you due to the urgency of this transaction. Let me start by introducing myself properly to you. I am Andrew Davis, Manager, Lloyds TSB, Chelsea, London, I came to know you through the internet and I want to count on your reliability to handle this confidential transaction, which involves the transfer of a huge sum of money to a foreign account requiring maximum confidence. THE PROPOSITION A foreigner, a French Citizen, Late Engr. John Pierre (Snr) an oil merchant with the British Government until his death last two years in the terrorist attack on World Trade Centre in New York USA on the Sept. 11/2001, banked with us Lloyds TSB Chelsea branch and had closing balance as at the end of end, 20 01 worth US$7,800,000.00(Seven Million eight hundred United States Dollars), the bank now expects a next of kin as beneficiary. Valuable efforts are being made by Lloyds TSB Chelsea branch to get in touch with any of Pierres Family or relatives but to n o avail. It is because of the perceived possibility of not being able to locate any of Late Engr. John Pierres next of kin (he had no wife or children that is known to us). A close friend of Mr. Pierre said he was Gay or homosexual. The Management, under my influence as the manager, and Members of the Board of Directors has made arrangements for the fund to be declared "Unclaimed" and subsequently be donated to the trust fu nd for CHARITY HOMES in europe general. In order to avert this negative development, some of my trusted colleagues and I, now seek your permission to have you stand as next of kin to Late John Pierre (Snr)so that the fund US$7.8 Million will be released and paid into your account as the benefi ciary or next of kin. All documents and proofs to enable you get this fund will be carefully worked out. We have secured from the probate an Order of Mandamus to locate any of the deceased beneficiaries, and more, so we are assuring you that this business is 100% risk fr ee. Your share stays while the rest will be for myself and my colleagues for investment purpose according to agreement within both parties. As soon as we receive an acknowledgement of your acceptance of our mutual business proposal, we would furnish you with the necessary disbursement ratio to suite both parties without any conflict. If this proposal is acceptable by you, do not take undue advantage of the trust we have bestowed on you, get in touch with me immediately. Best regards, Andrew Davis, Manager, Lloyds TSB Chelsea,London. __ Get Paid... With Your Free Email at http://www.zwallet.com/index.html?user=andrew_davis
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