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Re: "Forest Fire" responsible for a 2.5mi *mushroom cloud*?

[ken]

J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
The forest fire claim sounds more plausible in this
regard. An existing cloud could be used for masking, though.

Wait a minute: since when does a forest fire create explosions?  Or have
enough ground force to push up a mushroom cloud?
[...]
That of course brings us full circle: how many fuels can produce a blast
which results in a 2+ mile mushroom?  That's a *lot* of explosive force.
Doesn't have to work like that. The mushroom cloud is not "pushed 
up" by blast, it's carried up by hot air rising, which is replaced 
by cooler air rushing in below.

There was a visible mushroom cloud at Hamburg in 1943 - I'm not 
sure but I suspect that that may have been the event that put the 
phrase into the language.

FWIW the BBC is now saying that the NKs are claiming it was a 
civil engineering explosion connected with a hydro project.

As with other list members I assume that if the explosion was 
nuclear someone would have detected EM from it immediately & 
radioactive particles soon after.

And I also assume, perhaps with less justification, that at least 
some of those someones would have made the knowledge public - it 
must include at least military early warning organisation of 
China, Russia & the US, and very possibly Japan, SK, UK & maybe 
other countries as well, and also probably a number of space 
agencies and academic researchers.  Would they all conspire to 
suppress knowledge of NK nuclear explosion?

And if there was such a test, how long before China stomped all 
over them. Last thing they want is a looney dictator with nukes on 
their borders (If only to pre-empt Russia, US, or Japan 
intervening). Even if both the Chinese state capitalists and the 
North Korean absolute divine monarchy still use the locally 
redundant word "Communist" when describing themselves to us 
Western barbarians.

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Bill Stewart wrote:
At 03:15 PM 9/6/2004, Hadmut Danisch wrote:
On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 11:52:03AM -0600, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
>
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percent
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I have mentioned this problem more than a year ago in context of
my RMX draft (SPF, CallerID and SenderID are based on RMX).
Interestingly, nobody really cared about this major security problem.
All RMX-derivatives block forged messages (more or less).  But what
happens if the attacker doesn't forge? That's a hard problem.  And a
problem known from the very beginning of the sender verification 
discussion.

It's not a hard problem, just a different problem.
Whitelisting your friends and aggressively filtering strangers
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Re: "Forest Fire" responsible for a 2.5mi *mushroom cloud*?

[Tyler Durden]

"Ken Brown" wrote...

And if there was such a test, how long before China stomped all over them. 
Last thing they want is a looney dictator with nukes on their borders (If 
only to pre-empt Russia, US, or Japan intervening). Even if both the 
Chinese state capitalists and the North Korean absolute divine monarchy 
still use the locally redundant word "Communist" when describing themselves 
to us Western barbarians.

I think this pretty much nails it. Actually, I was imagining that there was 
still enough relationship left between PRC and NK for the Chinese to say, 
"Uh, a nuclear test would not be a good idea", meaning (in Chinese speak), 
"No way you're gonna do that". I'm sure the Chinese at this point regard 
their relationship with NK as baggage, though I know the Chinese do 
re-patriate NK refugees, so they're at least maintaining pretenses.

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Re: "Forest Fire" responsible for a 2.5mi *mushroom cloud*?

[Major Variola (ret)]

At 06:23 PM 9/12/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
>I had thought that one of the main tests was seismic...from what I
>understood, Seismic monitors in the US can detect nu-cu-lar tests
(above or
>below ground) and even guess where and the size of the blast.

Yes.  Seismic sensors see some foreshock activity before an earthquake
including the big ones.
A nuke starts instantly.  Standard S & P wave triangulation gives you
the location.   You can try to hide a blast (in sand; or in an excavated

void) but its tough.

At 06:50 AM 9/13/04 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>About 4.5 kT of 50:50 ammonium nitrate/ammonium sulfate mix. One of the

>largest, if not *the* largest nonnuclear explosions ever.

Ammonium sulphate would not have exploded.  Its the nitrate that is the
fun group.  It has an oxygen surplus, so anythign (like the rest of the
ship)
vaporized by the detonation would probaby burn.  Fuel oil is cheap;
aluminum dust is more energetic.

At 10:40 PM 9/12/04 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
>No FO, just AN all by itself.  NH4NO3 turns into N2 + 2H2O + O,

Slow decomposition yields nitrous oxide, ie the fun oxide.
19th century chemistry.  (And anesthesiology!)

>The first earthquake-like event I experienced was when a
>chemical plant across the river from where I lived blew up;
>I think it was a fertilizer plant of some sort.
>(I was in Delaware; the plant was in New Jersey, and it was ~1968.)

The DuPont black powder & nitro plants in Delaware have three strong
walls, the weak side faces the river.  When they blow up, its much
safer.  Unless you're on
the river, of course.

The N Korean blast could have been their missiles blowing up due to
screw ups.  There's a lot of energy in the fuels.  Or it could have been

a test of their nuke-testing systems.

The media uses the phrase "October surprise", if NK detonates just
before the elections.  Of course, others are working on their own
October gift to W.

When the WTC towers fell, it was something like a 3 on the Richter
scale.
Lots of gravitational energy.

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[Major Variola (ret)]

Currently BGP is "secured" by
1. accepting BGP info only from known router IPs
2. ISPs not propogating BGP from the edge inwards

Its a serious vulnerability (as in, take down the net),
equivalent to the ability to confuse the post office
machinery that sorts postcards.  All you need to
do is subvert some trusted routers.


At 10:54 PM 9/10/04 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
>Also, the author's document discusses protecting BGP to prevent
>some of the recent denial-of-service attacks,
>and asks for confirmation about the assertion in a message
>on the IPSEC mailing list suggesting
>"E.g., it is not feasible for BGP routers to be configured with the

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peers".
>Routers typically use BGP to peer with a small number of partners,
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connections
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[ISN] Mitnick movie comes to the US

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By Kevin Poulsen,
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9th September 2004

Nearly six years after it was filmed, Hollywood's trouble-plagued
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fugitive hacker's arrest.

Early versions of the screenplay for the movie adaptation of Takedown
cast Mitnick - played by Scream star Skeet Ulrich - as violent and
potentially homicidal. In July, 1998, supporters of the
then-imprisoned cyberpunk rallied against the film outside Miramax's
New York City offices. Writers later revised the script, and shooting
wrapped on the project in December, 1998.

The film then languished without a US release date amid rumors of poor
test screenings and a re-shot ending. Perhaps hoping to recoup some of
their losses, Miramax finally released the movie to French theatres in
March, 2000, as Cybertraque. It was generally panned by critics: a
reviewer for the newspaper Le Monde noted the film's problems in
translating a virtual manhunt to the action-adventure genre. "Can the
repeated image of faces sweating over keyboards renew the principles
of the Hollywood thriller?," the paper asked. "It's easy to say that
the filmmaker hardly reaches that point, regardless of his saturation
of the soundtrack with rock music to defeat the boredom of the
viewer."

Cybertraque was later released in Europe on DVD with French subtitles,
and enjoyed some underground circulation on peer-to-peer networks,
often misidentified as the sequel to the 1995 film Hackers.

The real-life Mitnick cracked computers at cellphone companies,
universities and ISPs. He pleaded guilty in March, 1999, to seven
felonies, and was released from prison on 21 January, 2000, after
nearly five years in custody.

Now a security consultant and author, the ex-hacker says he's not
happy to see the movie come to America. "I didn't expect the film
would ever be released to the US, so this is kind of shock to me," he
says. "I'm kind of disappointed because the film depicts me doing
things that are not real."

The fictionalized plot of Track Down centers around Shimomura's
efforts to capture Mitnick before the hacker can access a terrifying
computer program capable of causing blackouts, disabling hospital
equipment and scrambling air traffic control systems. Hollywood's
Mitnick character is portrayed somewhat sympathetically, but is prone
to random outbursts of rage, and suffers a creepy penchant for
electronic eavesdropping and a lurking hatred of women.

"You wouldn't believe the amount of emails I get from all around the
world saying, 'I saw this movie about you, it's great, you're my hero,
it was a fantastic movie,'" says Mitnick. "I'm thinking, these guys
are a little bit off... It's not an interesting film. I think it was
done pretty poorly."



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