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re - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/3415525.stm All elements are there. Pretty much like situation when segregation in US collapsed. A nonsensical "security" ritual. Legal framework where few words can set one up for 15 years in prison. Obvious idiocy of it all. And the government's authority is hinged on it. The massive "I have a bomb" declarations at airport "security" checks is probably the only thing that can bring down US government today. They can't arrest us all.
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1st amend, compelled speech in US
...public health officials are considering legal action to force AOL and certain websites to warn members about... http://wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,62005,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2 Compelled speech is prohibited, suggesting it is treason, no matter the reason.
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http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/22/infiltration_of_files_seen_as_extensive/ WASHINGTON -- Republican staff members of the US Senate Judiciary Commitee infiltrated opposition computer files for a year, monitoring secret strategy memos and periodically passing on copies to the media, Senate officials told The Globe ... "There appears to have been no hacking, no stealing, and no violation of any Senate rule," Miranda said. "Stealing assumes a property right and there is no property right to a government document. . . . These documents are not covered under the Senate disclosure rule because they are not official business and, to the extent they were disclosed, they were disclosed inadvertently by negligent [Democratic] staff." Whether the memos are ultimately deemed to be official business will be a central issue in any criminal case that could result. Unauthorized access of such material could be punishable by up to a year in prison -- or, at the least, sanction under a Senate non-disclosure rule. The computer glitch dates to 2001, when Democrats took control of the Senate after the defection from the GOP of Senator Jim Jeffords, Independent of Vermont. A technician hired by the new judiciary chairman, Patrick Leahy, Democrat of Vermont, apparently made a mistake that allowed anyone to access newly created accounts on a Judiciary Committee server shared by both parties -- even though the accounts were supposed to restrict access only to those with the right password. - An RPG a day keeps the invaders away
RE: spying on congress, by congress
Major Variola (ret.)wrote: >http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/22/infiltration_of_files _seen_as_extensive/ >WASHINGTON -- Republican staff members of the US Senate Judiciary >Commitee infiltrated opposition computer files for a year, monitoring >secret strategy memos and periodically passing on copies to the media, >Senate officials told The Globe [...] I showed this to a friend of mine this morning after it appeared in the Boston Globe (it's the lead story). Here is his response: "Republicans breaking in and stealing the files from the Democrats while the country is embroiled in a controversial military action... H, It's just too preposterous to be true ;)" Peter
Re: 1st amend, compelled speech in US
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 09:47:07AM -0800, Major Variola (ret.) wrote: > ...public health officials are considering legal action to force AOL and > certain websites to warn members about... > > http://wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,62005,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2 > > Compelled speech is prohibited, suggesting it is treason, no matter the > reason. > So is it prohibited that drug companies are compelled to disclose known side effects of their medications in order to sell them, and treason on the part of FDA employees who enforce that?
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Re: 1st amend, compelled speech in US
At 09:47 AM 1/22/04 -0800, Major Variola (ret.) wrote: ..public health officials are considering legal action to force AOL and certain websites to warn members about... http://wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,62005,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2 Yep. Because if watching a whole generation of terrifying death rates among gay men doesn't convince you to take some precautions to avoid getting AIDS, a banner ad on AOL is probably going to do the trick. Compelled speech is prohibited, suggesting it is treason, no matter the reason. Not treason. Not even unconstitutional if they're planning to sue to try to force AOL to put up some condom ads, though I can't see how they'd win in court. Just really stupid policy. --John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
