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2003-06-29 Thread Tim Meehan
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Pubdate: Sunday, June 29, 2003
Source: Ottawa Citizen (CN ON)
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ottawacitizen/
Author: Jake Rupert

Messy marijuana law tries courts, police

Right now, there is no law against possessing marijuana for personal use in
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lawyers and judges are asking what happens next.

Jake Rupert
The Ottawa Citizen

If you're confused about whether it is legal or illegal to possess marijuana
in Ontario, you're not alone. And you have some pretty good company.

It seems the answer to the simple question of whether possession of
marijuana is legal right now depends on who you ask.

Police and federal Crown attorneys will tell you that, in their opinion,
it's still illegal to possess marijuana. On the other hand, judges and
defence lawyers will tell you there is no law against having marijuana for
personal use.

The fact is that, right now, in law and in practice, there is no law against
possessing marijuana for personal use in the province, due to a couple of
recent court rulings.

The proof can be seen in our courts these days as judges in Ottawa and
across Ontario are simply dismissing the charges against people because the
charges have no legal merit.

Justice Bruce MacPhee, Eastern Ontario's regional senior Ontario Court
judge, said he quashed three of them in the week of June 16-20.

"In my view, the charge of simple possession of marijuana, less than 30
grams, is no longer capable of finding its way onto a proper information."

Barring a drastic move by the federal government -- which isn't going to
happen anytime soon -- there will be no law against possession at least
until the Ontario Court of Appeal rules on the case that nullified the law.

There is no date for that case to be heard at the province's highest court.
Brian McAllister, the Windsor lawyer who brought down the law, thinks the
hearing will happen in late July or early August. A ruling will follow
sometime after that. "As it stands, it looks like we were heading for a
summer of unregulated marijuana use in Ontario," said Mr. McAllister. "We're
actually in the middle of an interesting social experiment. It will be
interesting to see what happens. Will people use marijuana more? I don't
know.

"Maybe we should look at the results to see what direction we will take on
the issue in the future."

Things got to this point because of a federal law, coupled with a series of
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In the early to mid-1990s, social activists began clamouring for a law
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it helped ease their pain and suffering. At the same time, doctors began
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people for medicinal use. However, these people still had to obtain the drug
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violated the federal charter rights of Terry Parker, a man suffering from
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and possession of the drug.

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with marijuana medical-access regulations. Still, this program didn't
provide a legal supply of the drug to people with minister's exemptions.

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appeals court, and, therefore, according to the July 2000 appeal court
ruling, the law no longer existed. The judge agreed the law prohibiting
possession was legal no more and tossed out the charge. The Crown appealed.

Hard on the heels of this decision, after hearing a month of arguments last
fall, Ontario Superior Court Justice Sydney Lederman declared the
government's medicinal-marijuana program unconstitutional because it didn't
provide a legal source of marijuana for sick people. The Crown appealed.

In the spring, the Crown's appeal of Judge Phillips' ruling in the Windsor
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Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC

2003-06-29 Thread Bill Stewart
At 11:15 PM 06/28/2003 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Stewart writes:
>This looks like it has the ability to work around DNSSEC.
>Somebody trying to verify that they'd correctly reached yahoo.com
>would instead verify that they'd correctly reached
>yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com, which can provide all the signatures
>it needs to make this convincing.
>
>So if you're depending on DNSSEC to secure your IPSEC connection,
>do make sure your DNS server doesn't have a suffix of echelon.nsa.gov...
No, that's just not true of DNSsec.  DNSsec doesn't depend on the
integrity of the connection to your DNS server;
rather, the RRsets are digitally signed.
In other words, it works a lot like certificates,
with a trust chain going back to a magic root key.
I thought about that, and I think this is an exception,
because this attack tricks your machine into using the
trust chain yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com., which it controls,
instead of the trust chain yahoo.com., which DNSSEC protects adequately.
So you're getting a trustable answer to the wrong query.
I'm less sure of the implementation issues of the
"Connection-specific DNS suffix", and I've seen conflicting documentation.
If the resolver looks up "domain.suffix" before "domain",
then the attacker's DNS doesn't need to control the DNS access,
and only needs to provide the attacker's certificates,
but if the resolver looks up "domain" before "domain.suffix",
then the attacker also needs to make sure that the lookup of "domain" fails,
which is most easily done by telling the DHCP client to use
the attacker's DNS server along with telling it the suffix.
(That doesn't add any extra work to the attack, but does make it
a bit easier to trace the attacker after the fact;
if you're not replacing the attacker's DNS server entry,
then all you need is a legitimate-looking server for
"*.attackersdomain.com".  In either case, somebody who can
pull off this kind of an attack probably uses a compromised machine
to run the DNS server on anyway.)
I'm not saying that
there can't be problems with that model, but compromised DNS servers
(and poisoned DNS caches) are among the major threat models it was
designed to deal with.  If nothing else, the existence of caching DNS
servers, which are not authoritative for the information they hand out,
makes a transmission-based solution pretty useless.
DNSSEC seems to do a pretty thorough job of making sure that
if you look up the correct domain name, you'll get the correct answer,
in spite of attackers trying to prevent it.
But this attack tricks you into looking up the wrong domain name,
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which isn't the result you want.


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Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC

2003-06-29 Thread Simon Josefsson
Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> At 11:15 PM 06/28/2003 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
>>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Stewart writes:
>> >This looks like it has the ability to work around DNSSEC.
>> >Somebody trying to verify that they'd correctly reached yahoo.com
>> >would instead verify that they'd correctly reached
>> >yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com, which can provide all the signatures
>> >it needs to make this convincing.
>> >
>> >So if you're depending on DNSSEC to secure your IPSEC connection,
>> >do make sure your DNS server doesn't have a suffix of echelon.nsa.gov...
>>
>>No, that's just not true of DNSsec.  DNSsec doesn't depend on the
>>integrity of the connection to your DNS server;
>>rather, the RRsets are digitally signed.
>>In other words, it works a lot like certificates,
>>with a trust chain going back to a magic root key.
>
> I thought about that, and I think this is an exception,
> because this attack tricks your machine into using the
> trust chain yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com., which it controls,
> instead of the trust chain yahoo.com., which DNSSEC protects adequately.
> So you're getting a trustable answer to the wrong query.

No, I believe only one of the following situations can occur:

* Your laptop see and uses the name "yahoo.com", and the DNS server
  translate them into yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com.  If your laptop
  knows the DNSSEC root key, the attacker cannot spoof yahoo.com since
  it doesn't know the yahoo.com key.  This attack is essentially a
  man-in-the-middle attack between you and your recursive DNS server.

* Your laptop see and uses the name "yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com".
  You may be able to verify this using your DNSSEC root key, if the
  attackersdomain.com people have set up DNSSEC for their spoofed
  entries, but unless you are using bad software or judgment, you will
  not confuse this for the real "yahoo.com".

Of course, everything fails if you ALSO get your DNSSEC root key from
the DHCP server, but in this case you shouldn't expect to be secure.
I wouldn't be surprised if some people suggest pushing the DNSSEC root
key via DHCP though, because alas, getting the right key into the
laptop in the first place is a difficult problem.



Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC

2003-06-29 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Simon Josefsson writes:

>
>Of course, everything fails if you ALSO get your DNSSEC root key from
>the DHCP server, but in this case you shouldn't expect to be secure.
>I wouldn't be surprised if some people suggest pushing the DNSSEC root
>key via DHCP though, because alas, getting the right key into the
>laptop in the first place is a difficult problem.
>

I can pretty much guarantee that the IETF will never standardize that, 
except possibly in conjunction with authenticated dhcp.

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2003-06-29 Thread R. A. Hettinga


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side effect is an epidemic of false alarms, like the ones that happen with
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Priceline sells -- why not? Maybe one day soon, that reservoir will indeed
be guarded by someone at a PC far away. 

But USHomeGuard isn't taking the
economic and technical logic of the Internet to its logical conclusions. As
Americans by the hundreds of thousands are learning, if a job can be done
at a keyboard and monitor, chances are good it can be done anywhere in the
world. 

In the publicity material for USHomeGuard, the citizen spotters
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But there's no reason to pay citizen spotters even $10 an hour when the
work can be done for a tenth or twentieth of that overseas. And I mean
seriously overseas: the polite English-speaking programmers and help desk
attendants of Bangalore, India, are vastly overqualified for this kind of
work. You don't need English skills, or many skills at all, to know whether
a truck is, or is not, in a TV picture. And they are no more or less
handicapped at recognizing Al, the maintenance guy. Also, the safeguards
used to prevent snoozing spotters in the U.S. would work equally well
abroad. 

The real value of Mr. Walker's proposal is in the way it reminds
us about the easy exportability of labor in the 21st century, if not for
USHomeGuard, t

Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC

2003-06-29 Thread Bill Stewart
At 11:49 PM 06/29/2003 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote:
No, I believe only one of the following situations can occur:

* Your laptop see and uses the name "yahoo.com", and the DNS server
  translate them into yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com.  If your laptop
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That doesn't happen.  (Well, it could, but as you point out,
it's not a successful attack methodology, because DNSSEC was designed
to correctly take care of this.)
* Your laptop see and uses the name "yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com".
  You may be able to verify this using your DNSSEC root key, if the
  attackersdomain.com people have set up DNSSEC for their spoofed
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The DNS suffix business is designed so that your laptop tries
to use "yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com", either before "yahoo.com"
or after unsuccessfully trying "yahoo.com", depending on implementation.
It may be bad judgement, but it's designed to support intranet sites
for domains that want their web browsers and email to let you
refer to "marketing" as opposed to "marketing.webservers.example.com",
and Netscape-derived browsers support it as well as IE.
Of course, everything fails if you ALSO get your DNSSEC root key from
the DHCP server, but in this case you shouldn't expect to be secure.
I wouldn't be surprised if some people suggest pushing the DNSSEC root
key via DHCP though, because alas, getting the right key into the
laptop in the first place is a difficult problem.
I agree with you and Steve that this would be a Really Bad Idea.
The only way to make it secure is to use an authenticated DHCP,
which means you have to put authentication keys in somehow,
plus you need a reasonable response for handling authentication failures,
which means you need a user interface as well.
It's also the wrong scope, since the DNSSEC is global information,
not connection-oriented information, so it's not really DHCP's job.


Re: Attacking networks using DHCP, DNS - probably kills DNSSEC NOT

2003-06-29 Thread Simon Josefsson
Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>* Your laptop see and uses the name "yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com".
>>   You may be able to verify this using your DNSSEC root key, if the
>>   attackersdomain.com people have set up DNSSEC for their spoofed
>>   entries, but unless you are using bad software or judgment, you will
>>   not confuse this for the real "yahoo.com".
>
> The DNS suffix business is designed so that your laptop tries
> to use "yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com", either before "yahoo.com"
> or after unsuccessfully trying "yahoo.com", depending on implementation.
> It may be bad judgement, but it's designed to support intranet sites
> for domains that want their web browsers and email to let you
> refer to "marketing" as opposed to "marketing.webservers.example.com",
> and Netscape-derived browsers support it as well as IE.

It can be a useful feature, but it does not circumvent DNSSEC in any
way, that I can see.  DNSSEC see yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com and can
verify that the IP addresses for that host are the one that the owner
of the y.c.a.c domain publishes, and that is what DNSSEC delivers.
The bad judgement I referred to was if your software, after DNSSEC
verification, confuses yahoo.com with yahoo.com.attackersdomain.com.

>>Of course, everything fails if you ALSO get your DNSSEC root key from
>>the DHCP server, but in this case you shouldn't expect to be secure.
>>I wouldn't be surprised if some people suggest pushing the DNSSEC root
>>key via DHCP though, because alas, getting the right key into the
>>laptop in the first place is a difficult problem.
>
> I agree with you and Steve that this would be a Really Bad Idea.
> The only way to make it secure is to use an authenticated DHCP,
> which means you have to put authentication keys in somehow,
> plus you need a reasonable response for handling authentication failures,
> which means you need a user interface as well.
> It's also the wrong scope, since the DNSSEC is global information,
> not connection-oriented information, so it's not really DHCP's job.

I think it is simpler to have the DNSSEC root key installed with the
DNSSEC software.  If someone can replace the root key in that
distribution channel, they could also modify your DNSSEC software, so
you are no worse off.



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