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Re: Re: disk encryption modes

2002-04-29 Thread JonathanW

Title: Re: Re: disk encryption modes

Here is a technique for encrypting a hard disk that should provide reasonable performance, good security, and be easy to render the entire disk unreadable in an emergency.

1. Start with a good (P)RNG. Seed it constantly with radioacitve decay noise, digitized samples of monkeys farting into your sound card, keystroke data, mouse squeaks, your favorite hardware RNG's, etc. Hash and whiten to your heart's content, just make sure it can output a few hundred KB/second of data cryptographically indistinguishable from "random" (an attacker having access to the entire of the output of this device since it started has no more than a .5 probability of determining any future bit of the output).

2. Each disk cluster is encrypted individually. (On my 100 GB NTFS drive the cluster size is 4096 bytes. Different drive sizes under different file systems may have different cluster sizes. For clarity's sake, I will stick with the 4K cluster size.) Encryption can be done with any cipher that can accept a 256 bit key, You can use a block cipher (in a suitable feedback mode) or a stream cipher. The first 128 bits of each block key is the master disk encryption key, (a hash of a passphrase ors ome such hereafter called the "permanent" key half) and the other 128 bits are the randomest bits you can obtain from the aforementioned (P)RNG whenever a cluster is written to (hereafter referred to as the "temporary" half. The temporary bits of the key are stored in a separate file which can be on a CDRW disc, compact flash card, etc. The format of this file is simple; the first 16 bytes of the file is the temporary 128 bits of the key for the first cluster of the disk the next 16 bytes are for the second cluster, and so on. Each time a disk cluster is written to, a new temporary half-key is pulled from the (P)RNG and used to encrypt the cluster data, and then is stored in the temporary key file. When a cluster is read, the appropriate temporary key half is read from the temporary key file, combined with the permanent key half, and then the data is decrypted.

Here are the advantages I see with this technique:

1. If you edit a sensitive file and save several versions of it, no 2 versions of the file, or even any 2 4K sections of the file will be encrypted with the same key, so an attacker will not have many instances of similar ciphertexts as obvious targest for attack.

2. If you need to destroy the encrypted data quickly, and have the temporary key file on separate media, (like a CDRW) the temporary key file can be destroyed quickly (microwave the CDRW until extra crispy) thereby rendering the encrypted data unrecoverable even if the main passphrase is rubberhosed out of someone. Imaginative encryption driver design could have several temporary key files; a real one and several dummies, so that an attacker could be confused as to which file was real until the real one had already been destroyed. The temporary key file could also be located in a remote location (preferably somewhere with no extradition treaty with your jurisdiction) if you can find a party there who would be trusted to cut off access to, and securely destroy the real temporary key file (They could continue to provide access to a bogus one) if a certain signal was received. "If I ever tell you to write value X to block Y of the key file, assume I have been arrested and burn the CD the real key file lives on..." If you wanted to get really fancy you could use secret splitting or RAID techniques where the temporary key file is split into X pieces, and Y number of pieces are needed to reconstitute the entire file. You can use whatever values of X and Y you need to satisfy operational reliability requirements and your paranoia level.

Comments, nits to pick?

Re: disk encryption modes

2002-04-29 Thread Bill Stewart

At 01:13 AM 04/29/2002 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  [each cluster has 128 bits permanent half-key, 128 bits nonce half-key...]
>  are for the second cluster, and so on. Each time a disk cluster is 
> written to, a new temporary half-key is pulled from the (P)RNG and used 
> to encrypt the cluster data, and then is stored in the temporary key 
> file. When a cluster is read, the appropriate temporary key half is read 
> from the temporary key file, combined with the permanent key half, and 
> then the data is decrypted.

At least it's big enough to prevent searches through the space.
But it not only requires managing the extra key-file (which could be pretty 
large,
and needs to be kept somewhere, apparently not in the same file system),
it potentially requires two disk reads per block instead of just one,
which is a major performance hit unless you're good at predictive caching,
and more seriously it requires two writes that both succeed.
If you write the key first and don't write out the block,
you can't decrypt the old block that was there, while if you write the 
block first
and don't succeed in writing the key, you can't decrypt the new block.
This makes depending on caching writes much more difficult - it's already 
one of the
things that helps make systems fast and either reliable or unreliable,
and you've made it tougher as well as requiring two disk spins.
You can get some relief using non-volatile memory (the way the Legato 
Prestoserve
did for NFS acceleration - first cache the write in battery-backed RAM,
send your ACK, and then write the block out to disk), but that's hardwary.

It's cute, though...

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2002-04-29 Thread À¯¿£ºñ±ÝÀ¶ÄÁ¼³ÆÃ

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Re: Odp: Cypherpunks Europe

2002-04-29 Thread Steve Furlong

Jan Dobrucki wrote:

> World, this is the USA, USA, this is The World. Now that you know
> each other, start thinking in a more broad perspective, please.

Blow me.

/s/
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persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.  -- George Bernard Shaw

Re: Got carried away...

2002-04-29 Thread Graham Lally

Jan Dobrucki wrote:
> I do have an idea thou. I'm thinking how to implement PGP into car
> locks. And so far I got this: The driver has his PGP, and the door
> has it's own. 

Path of least resistance - *access* to the car is generally not the problem. 
Instead weaker attacks such as breaking the glass, or forcing the door work much 
better. Once inside, a different mechanism again would be needed to prevent the 
car from being hotwired. In short, the addition of PGP doesn't particularly 
enhance the security, especially if the protocol is still vulnerable to, say, 
identity theft (the encryption is useless if somebody just steals the PGP keys).
To steal an idea from the Mary Whitehouse Experience, iirc, car security will be 
complete when we can use imaging technology to disguise someone's latest XR3i as 
a clapped out Austin MiniMetro*.

Seems that it's just another case of trying to use a buzzword in an unnecessary 
solution, making it overly complicated from a user POV, and whilst ignoring the 
other fundamental aspects. As has been pointed out a multitude of times, 
encryption has its places and uses, most of which will never be the interest, 
imho, of the common populace. (Only perhaps on a need-to-use basis, such as SSL. 
I doubt pgp mail encrypting will become "natural", or indeed "sexy" to the 
sheeple.) And nor should it (have to) be. There are, however, still plenty of 
places where the techniques are, or would be, of great benefit.

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* Purely for demonstrative purposes only, obviously.

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RE: disk encryption modes

2002-04-29 Thread JonathanW

Title: RE: disk encryption modes

With a 4096 byte cluster size, 1 GB of drive space would require 4 MB temporary key file storage. At this ratio, a 128 MB compact flash card could hold a key file for 32 GB of hard drive space. The key file could be stored on the same physical drive if you wanted to do so, but putting it on separate, and easily microwaveable media gives you the "wipe all the data without touching the actual hard drive" capability. If you trust the reliability of the storage hardware, you could send the main drive the encrypted data and the temporary keyfile drive the temp key data concurrently and let the drive buffering do its magic without a major performance hit. Reliability would be a significant issue, since losing keyfile data would mean the loss of a proportionally larger amount of data on the main storage device. If operational reliability is really super-important, having 2 copies of the key file on separate CDRW's would up the warm-and-fuzzy factor, but require the destruction of both CD's or CF cards or whatever to securely destroy the data.

The main feature I was going for was the ability to give a semi-trusted third party out of the reach of your local men-with-guns the ability to irrevocably destroy your data in an emergency, without giving the third party any of your actual data. If the "I need you to destroy the keyfile NOW" signal was automatically sent to the third party after N failed login attempts by the encryption driver (by writing a pre-arranged random value to a pre-arranged random section of the key file) you wouldn't even have to be conscious. And your (semi) trusted third party could have a similar arrangement with you, to covertly warn you if he was compromised. This design is intended primarily for applications where complete loss of the data is less dire than disclosure of the data to the wrong parties. For these applications, security considerations would probably be more important than absolute cutting-edge performance. but since the keyfile data would be about 0.4% of the actual stored data, I think it could be done reasonably reliably without a noticeable performance hit.

One real-world application that comes to mind for this idea is encryption for a corporate laptop computer. The laptop has an encrypted partition containing the sensitive corporate data, and the keyfile for that partition is stored at corporate HQ. In order for the encrypted partition to be accessed, the laptop has to have a live connection to corporate HQ. Even if this connection was a 33.6 kilobit dialup, you could still encrypt and decrypt at over 800 kilobytes per second, which is fast enough to open up most files in a reasonable amount of time. (The laptop/HQ connection would need to be end-to-end encrypted and authenticated to prevent an attacker from gradually acquiring the keyfile.) If the laptop is stolen, the thief gets none of the encrypted data, and runs the risk of having the computer tattle on his location via caller ID, GPS, or other means when it phones home. You could also use this concept for pay-per-view digital content, but of course it doesn't address the unsolvable issue of once the consumer has decrypted the content, how to make them play nice with it and not redistribute it.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: disk encryption modes

At 01:13 AM 04/29/2002 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  [each cluster has 128 bits permanent half-key, 128 bits nonce half-key...]
>  are for the second cluster, and so on. Each time a disk cluster is 
> written to, a new temporary half-key is pulled from the (P)RNG and used 
> to encrypt the cluster data, and then is stored in the temporary key 
> file. When a cluster is read, the appropriate temporary key half is read 
> from the temporary key file, combined with the permanent key half, and 
> then the data is decrypted.

At least it's big enough to prevent searches through the space.
But it not only requires managing the extra key-file (which could be pretty 
large,
and needs to be kept somewhere, apparently not in the same file system),
it potentially requires two disk reads per block instead of just one,
which is a major performance hit unless you're good at predictive caching,
and more seriously it requires two writes that both succeed.
If you write the key first and don't write out the block,
you can't decrypt the old block that was there, while if you write the 
block first
and don't succeed in writing the key, you can't decrypt the new block.
This makes depending on caching writes much more difficult - it's already 
one of the
things that helps make systems fast and either reliable or unreliable,
and you've made it tougher as well as requiring two disk spins.
You can get some relief using non-volatile memory (the way the Legato 
Prestoserve
did for NFS acceleration - first cache the writ

Re: Odp: Cypherpunks Europe

2002-04-29 Thread Eugen Leitl


On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Steve Furlong wrote:
 
> Blow me.

Troll, and ye shalt be heard. 

Seriously, while the relationship between furriners and merkins has been 
notoriously strained, might there not be need for a cpunx-europe@? For 
regional announcements, and such. English to be preferrable mode of 
communication, but occasional multilingual excursions could be perhaps 
tolerated (yes, even frogspeak).

The rationale is to mutually decouple regionally and politically local
babble. Who feels compelled to keep track of everything, can always
subscribe to a yet another list.

What say ye, Eurotrash?

Re: p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)

2002-04-29 Thread Sampo Syreeni

On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>So if your P2P application is IPv6 compatible, you can get a semi
>permanent IPv6 IP automatically from a server, and thereafter do peer to
>peer, just as if you were full, no kidding, on the internet.

This nicely solves the problem with NATs, true. However, most firewalls I
know are there for security reasons. Those will likely be adapted to work
for 6to4 as well. The transition period will likely see some cracks where
p2p can work, but I suspect those will be closed in due course.

Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], tel:+358-50-5756111
student/math+cs/helsinki university, http://www.iki.fi/~decoy/front
openpgp: 050985C2/025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

Re: Cypherpunks Europe

2002-04-29 Thread Ken Brown

Tim May wrote:

> > Not sure about the rest of europe - but we have a targetted crypto list
> > in the UK (UKCrypto, sensibly enough) so already have a forum for
> > uk-specific issues.
> > Thats not to say some of it wouldn't be better here - but I am sure our
> > problems with ..
> 
> [name elide to prevent His search engines from finding text with His
> name in it and then threatening legal action.]

Well, he's not quite as bad as Sr A&&&c used to be.

> Do you mean _Him_? 

He indeed means  Dr. L G* a long-time reader of, and spasmodic
contributor to, the UKcrypto & Cyber-rights-UK mailing lists. Has
recently been the main troll in sidelining a thread on something I've
forgotten about into a rehash of censorship/anti-censorship arguments. 

> I once followed-up to a post mentioning Him and
> received many threatening e-mails demanding that I cancel my post and
> inform Google that it was to be removed forthwith or both Google and
> myself and my ISP would face massive legal attack.

He makes anti-Choatian category errors -  sort of "I understand physics
therefore I understand ethics|law|politics|society - delete as
appropriate". The main one being that he really seems to think that if
something is against the law then it shouldn't happen, and that it can
be prevented. Ah, I remember - the thread was about Deutsche Bahn suing
ISPs who allowed links to websites purporting to contain instructions
for disabling German railways.

> I was tempted to tell him, and his lawyers (er, barristers) to fuck off.

"Lawyers" will do. "Barristers" are professional advocates, lawyers who
plead in court. Very unlikely to be writing cease-and-desist letters. In
England retail lawyers are "solicitors". 

> Either than or to hire a freelance IRA guy to blow him up.

I don't think you get freelance IRA guys. Not with both kneecaps,
anyway.

L** G*** is a nice man. He wrote that the Cult of the Dead Cow
were a "bunch of barely literate mindless American teenage delinquents".
If they lived in England they could possibly sue him for that :-)

Ken

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Re: Topics and Toposes (Re: "news" is irrelevant -- write code not laws)

2002-04-29 Thread KPJ


It appears as if Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
|On Sunday, April 28, 2002, at 10:02  AM, Adam Back wrote:
|
|> There are perhaps 20-30 news items worthy of comment per year and
|> discussion usually happens here so using traditional media news won't
|> achieve anything apart from wasting your time consuming typically
|> heavily biased, technically confused journalists produce cute sound
|> bites and generally mindlessly regurgitating the party line.

Argumentational analysis:

  You only want to comment on ~ 20-30 news items per year.
  People on this list usually discuss those items.
  You feel you waste your time with traditional media.
  You believe the news media people bias the news a lot.
  You believe the journalists do not understand technology.
  You notice they produce sound bites.
  You view them as mindless minions of ``the party line''.
  You don't like the message they deliver.

OK, so you don't like traditional media.  Others might like them, however.

|Agreed. News is dominated by the theme du jour. This week it's the 
|"news" that a lot of priests are homosexual pedophiles...yawn. Or it's 
|the "news" that Arabs and Jews are still killing each other (not fast 
|enough, IMO).

Argumentational analysis:

  You don't like the traditional news media, either.
  You notice that news media choose to not broadcast everything.
  You note that this week they report on homosexual pedophile priests issue.
  You don't care about that issue.
  You note that they also report on Arabs and Jews killing each other.
  You don't care about that issue, either.
  You don't like neither Arabs nor Jews, anyway.

OK. People using a broadcast medium cannot send everything due to economics
in a market oriented capitalistic setting. If you don't interest yourself
for the issues, then I suggest you simply ignore the media. Your decision to
dislike these media appears irrational. Others might well find their reporting
relevant for _their_ interests.

|Sometimes some genuinely interesting news comes out, such as the news 
|about the quark stars. But don't count on t.v. to cover it ("Tonight at 
|11, those weird things the telescope guys have found!").

Most people don't care about QSR's. You do. You form a minority. As one, you
will find less mention of your interests in a market oriented economy. Stands
to reason.

I would suggest that people with minority views or interests simply put up
a web page with their interests, form web rings with other people sharings
their view or interests. Make the pages relevant for those who interest
themselves in these matters, and they will start to create a community.

Of course, that just might leave a lot of information about yourself on the
web, something some people like to avoid.  I would suggest they create a few
'nyms, split the interest between the 'nyms, and put up the interesting pages
on different servers.  Divide and conquer. 

[...lots of your varying interests snipped...]

|Of the "crypto-related news" that _does_ get reported, most of it is a 
|distraction from the real goals.

So, WHO distracts WHOM from WHOSE ``real goals''?

+ Ironically, the lack of new repressive 
|crypto legislation is one of the several reasons crypto has become 
|"tired," to used the "Wired" lingo. With Phil Z. not facing jail, with 
|crypto exporters not facing espionage charges, with Bernstein relatively 
|free to teach, and, most importantly, with Clipper and Mykotronx and all 
|that rot no longer in the news, things have cooled down considerably. No 
|wonder crypto companies are doing so poorly...Verisign down by 50% on 
|Friday as just one example. 

Quite possibly true.  Western venture capitalists wants a fast buck.

+With crypto being relegated to page D-42 of 
|the newspaper, below the tennis scores, public and corporate "awareness" 
|of crypto is almost gone completely. Crypto is not "sexy" the way it was 
|in 1994, when using PGP was both a statement of solidarity with Phil and 
|was a stick poked in the eye of Big Brother.

Why would people interested in crypto care about what Joe Sixpak thinks
about crypto?  Do _you_ feel less interest in crypto when the media does not
paint you as a ``heroic'' fighter against U.S. government?

|(And today, post 911, we have ostensible libertarians arguing for Big 
|Brother controls on thought and writing. Using PGP is now seen by many 
|as unpatriotic. "What have you got to hide?")

Correction: *Previous* libertarians.
They have apparently changed their minds.

|My problem with the "cypherpunks write code" mantra has long been that 
|it is used indiscriminately, often by people who haven't themselves 
|written anything of note. (Doesn't apply to Adam, obviously.)
|
|The flavor of the sentiment is lost when people think it means "don't 
|think about where to go, just start hacking Perl!"

The ``cypherpunks write code'' definition apparently defines a hard core.
The rest

Re: Odp: Cypherpunks Europe

2002-04-29 Thread Ben Laurie


Eugen Leitl wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Steve Furlong wrote:
> 
> > Blow me.
> 
> Troll, and ye shalt be heard.
> 
> Seriously, while the relationship between furriners and merkins has been
> notoriously strained, might there not be need for a cpunx-europe@? For
> regional announcements, and such. English to be preferrable mode of
> communication, but occasional multilingual excursions could be perhaps
> tolerated (yes, even frogspeak).
> 
> The rationale is to mutually decouple regionally and politically local
> babble. Who feels compelled to keep track of everything, can always
> subscribe to a yet another list.
> 
> What say ye, Eurotrash?

Wouldn't get me anywhere, since I'd be on both lists...

Cheers,

Ben.

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Re: Cypherpunks Europe

2002-04-29 Thread David Howe


> I don't think you get freelance IRA guys. Not with both
> kneecaps, anyway.
might be surprised - donations from the states have apparently tailled off
(having been the subject of a terrorist attack themselves they seem less
willing to fund them) and they could do with the revenue - but you are
probably better off talking with the dodgier firms in london - the prices
will be better and they will do a more professional/painful job. The price
improvement is because reusable sledgehammers are cheaper than having to
dispose of a gun ;)

> L** G*** is a nice man. He wrote that the Cult of the Dead Cow
> were a "bunch of barely literate mindless American teenage delinquents".
> If they lived in England they could possibly sue him for that :-)
Maybe they could anyhow - juristiction shopping isn't exclusive to LG. In
fact, I am sure half the list will chip in a tenner or so each to help out
the legal fees ;)

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(Resend) UK's biggest e-pedo bust ever! .. Yet

2002-04-29 Thread Anonymous User


70 more e-pedophiles busted in War To Protect A Single Child.

Big bust of those who trade in verboten pixels on Tuesday.  Computers
towed away to be impounded and none or more children relocated to
safer accomodation.  Link between pornography and action becomes
clearer, movie at 11.

The only interesting part was the company/product touted as the new
tool to pierce chatroom user's illusions of anonymity.  Surfcontrol
even got to whore their product on the wall behind the interviewees. 
This tool allows the authorities to trace a user back to their ISP,
who then turns over their True Name.

The video distributed by the authorities (same images on rotation on
all news progroms) shows newsgroups entitled alt.sex.children and
alt.sex.paedophilla, like that isn't a stupid name for a group.  Can
anyone please verify if these groups actually exist? (or have ever)  I
can't, Big Brother Is Watching Me.  It's safer if you do it for me,
honest.

Channel 5's sensationalistic news coverage was the worst.

First Kirsty Young introduced the article as "A World-Wide-Weapon
Against Our Children?"  Then Matthew Wright, host of daytime talk show
"The Wright Stuff" (You know its Wright [wing!]) just about declares,
"When I hear about child pornography, there ain't a civil libertarian
bone in my body!  There can be no excess in the pursuit of
e-paedophillia!"

He then goes on to say we will never be fully rid of child pornography
since the most determined will always find a way, but just like
we can't solve every murder, there is no reason to give up and
legalise murder.  The problem with the internet is that it allows the
curious to find thoughtcrime rather than just the already committed.

No shit Sherlock!  How long did it take you to figure that out?

And then the conversation gradually drifted round to putting more(?)
pressure on PC retailers to ship NannyWare by default.  How installing
blocking software on my childrens' boxen is going to stop e-pedos
exchanging verboten pixels I don't know.  Do I detect the subtle
fragrance of "Agenda(TM) pour Hominid"?

Remember this is the Channel that brought us the hourly headlines, as in,
"Media Break(TM) You give us two minutes: we'll give you the world."

I guess whatever scares the punters sells more tabloids
^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h responsible news media^h^h^h^h^h^h message.

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BBC2 to recreate Stanford Prison Experiment

2002-04-29 Thread Generic Poster


..from an ad in circulation on BBC2 (UK) if I recall inaccurately.

"If they shaved your head, would you lose your individuality?

If they took away your name, would they take your identity?

[..]

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Coming soon to BBC2..."

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2002-04-29 Thread matthew X


At Fox News, the Colonel Who Wasn't
Article about the service record of Joseph Cafasso, until recently a 
military consultant for Fox News in the US
( NY Times )
Links from http://www.hullocentral.demon.co.uk/site/anfin.htm
Also,was shrub a deserter from the national gaurd in his cokedaze.
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American navy 'helped Venezuelan coup'
Article covering further allegations of US involvement in the abortive coup 
earlier this month ( Guardian )
See also this article on the role of broadcast media owners in the coup, 
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Re: (Resend) UK's biggest e-pedo bust ever! .. Yet

2002-04-29 Thread Steve Furlong

Anonymous User wrote:

> The video distributed by the authorities (same images on rotation on
> all news progroms) shows newsgroups entitled alt.sex.children and
> alt.sex.paedophilla, like that isn't a stupid name for a group.  Can
> anyone please verify if these groups actually exist? (or have ever)  I
> can't, Big Brother Is Watching Me.  It's safer if you do it for me,
> honest.

They're not on my ISP's list. The only group with a salacious name
matching "*.children*" is alt.binaries.pictures.children, which I'm
carefully not examining. "*paedo*" and "*pedo*" don't appear at all.

> Remember this is the Channel that brought us the hourly headlines, as in,
> "Media Break(TM) You give us two minutes: we'll give you the world."

If that's based on RoboCop, I think it was "Give us three minutes...".

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