RE: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully
>I'd say that Phill is summing up the facts rather nicely. To all those >celebrating the "victory" of the largest Borg known to man (the USG) over >Microsoft: if they can outlaw Windows, they can outlaw Linux. Anyway, at its I found this http://www.2ndlawlib.org/journals/okslip.html today concerning "slippery slopes" and rights. We're on our way. >The racketeers in DC really will need to be dealt with sooner or later, That's Tim's line. -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ** If the courts started interpreting the Second Amendment the way they interpret the First, we'd have a right to bear nuclear arms by now.--Ann Coulter
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Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It's pie-in-the-sky, but were I in the oval office, I'd declare martial > law, kill all the bureaucratic agencies that aren't authorized by the > constitution, burn the federal register, and put the states on notice - > follow suit or else. Just another damn socialist... imposing his will on everybody else. This is not freedom; freedom can't be accomplished by imposing YOUR will, unless you're God. > Then end martial law, and let the grand experiment begin anew. > Ahem. And the rest of the people will just have to trust you. "Read my lips: the martial law will last for a very short time." Mark
Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I believe it was either Stalin or Goering who, when told the Catholic > Church disapproved of their latest genocide, replied "So how many > divisions does the Pope have?" Stalin. The Pope won. Mark
Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully
Choate wrote: >On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Tim May wrote: > >> At 3:28 AM -0400 4/5/00, Tom Vogt wrote: >> >Lucky Green wrote: >> >> >> >> I'd say that Phill is summing up the facts rather nicely. To all those >> >> celebrating the "victory" of the largest Borg known to man >>(the USG) over >> >> Microsoft: if they can outlaw Windows, they can outlaw Linux. >> > >> >sorry if I missed anything, but who exactly wants to outlaw windows? >> >from the news we get over here, it seems more like the business practice >> >of forcing it on everyone is in question, not the product. >> >> >> It isn't forced on everyone. I don't have or use Windows. (At least >> not since the execrable 1.0). >> >> Get your facts straight. > >No Tim, get your facts straight. Pot kettle black. > >Microsoft for years has done everything they can do eliminate or delay >competition. The sole intent is to reduce the actual number of options >available to the consumer. This will in fact drive the MS product line The only relevant question is whether they used force--in this case the force of government to do this. In this case the answer is "sometimes". The fact that they frequently used the power of the courts--in some cases just the *threat* of taking a small company to court--ALMOST makes the judgement palatable. Almost. It's still a case of government getting involved where they have no mandate and cannot help things. >onto your desktop because of two facts. The first will be the simple >elimination of the alternative product line. You have a Mac, How popular >is Mac? Fairly. Especially in some areas. >Do they have a significant share of the market? Yes. >Has Mac been >growing or floundering? etc. Lately growing. >In addition, one of the primary complaints with Linux, even today, is the >lack of apps. Mostly by people who don't know what they are talking about. Other than niche market applications, and "games", linux has at least one viable entry in every category (except Visio). There are several word processors (Lyx, Star Office, WordPerfect etc. Siag) Several spreadsheets (Wingz was one, Star Office, Siag) Presentation software (Siag, IIRC, Star Office etc.). What people mean when they say "It doesn't have any Applications" is that "It doesn't run MS Office" and "I can't find enough games for it". -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ** If the courts started interpreting the Second Amendment the way they interpret the First, we'd have a right to bear nuclear arms by now.--Ann Coulter
Re:Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully
>Hardly. More along the lines of sheeple liking a pretty GUI, and >right now there >are no alternatives in their eyes. Show most users a *NIX box and >they're gonna >ask you why you're still using DOS... (True, I know a few that >actually said that...) So launch Xdm, and they never see the command line. >Truth is, *NIX is too powerful - they fear the command prompt. The >reason Apple's MacOS has >failed is that they price their hardware out of the range of most >buyers (and its a closed "failed" Apple is shipping more units than ever, and is more profitable than ever. I'd hardly call that a "failure". >platform - where have all the 3rd party mobos gone?).. Rhapsody has >failed for the same "Rhapsody failed"? How? OS X server (a.k.a. Openstep 5, a.k.a. Rhapsody) is still available and selling despite almost no advertising from Apple, and OS X, which is OS X server with a different GUI, and some library changes should be hitting beta in the next 2 months, and shipping by the end of the Summer. -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ** If the courts started interpreting the Second Amendment the way they interpret the First, we'd have a right to bear nuclear arms by now.--Ann Coulter
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>> >Based on Moore's Law, this means it will be secure on computers roughly >> >10,000 times more powerful than today's systems. How likely is that? > >>Its not hard to imagine, if all we're talking about is brute force attacks. > >Those are essentially the numbers I came up with as well. However (and I >admit to being fairly new to this), how many current schemes can be broken >solely through brute force? Are any of them vulnerable to more elegant When you say "broken soley through brute force" do you have some kind of time limit in mind? Because if you don't, they *all* (except one time pads) can be broken *in time* through brute force. It's just that with sufficiently high key sizes, that *in time* goes past the end of the universe. -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ** If the courts started interpreting the Second Amendment the way they interpret the First, we'd have a right to bear nuclear arms by now.--Ann Coulter
Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully
Burnes wrote: >BTW: For 100 points name the three types of monopolies that can exist? >Why can only one of them exist without govenment support? Why can >only one of them exist temporarily? Well, let's see if I can get this right, keeping in mind that even though I'm a college graduate, I've never had an "Economics" class--I guess if you are getting a degree in Fine Art, it's not something you really want to know. Given that I've never had the classes, what I call these monopolies may not be the "real" name, so I'll describe them: The "Natural" Monopoly exists where the market is too small to need or support many players. I can't think of a good example off the top of my head, but it would be a case where a *small* number of specialized widgets, or a small number of complex and highly specialized machines are necessary. This type of monopoly isn't usually a concern to the average joe, or the politicians--it falls below their radar--This is the one that can exist without government support. The "Utility" Monopoly--this is for Utilities like Electrical, Telephone, water, and gas. There used to be the thinking that this was a "natural" monopoly, but times and the market have shown different. It was thought, or at least argued that because the cost of the infrastructure was so high, that it was necessary to grant monopoly status to the organizations (AT&T, Electric Companies etc) in order to get them widely deployed. This may in fact be the case--that to get AT&T to serve rural Wyoming, you have to grant them the right to overcharge elsewhere. The "Emerging Market" Monopoly--this is a monopoly that exists when a company or individual first creates a market with a new product. For example where I to create a "teleporter", and start selling the devices, or start providing a service based on these devices, for a certain length of time I would have a monopoly, and assuming that the goverment didn't intervene, my monopoly would only last until someone else figured out how to do it, and started competeing with me. Do I at least get partial credit? -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ** If the courts started interpreting the Second Amendment the way they interpret the First, we'd have a right to bear nuclear arms by now.--Ann Coulter
Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate
>But if you know of a better government to live under, might I humbly >inquire as to why you CHOSE to live here? If I knew of a government >which was more to my tastes, I'd make myself a citizen of it. If they'd let you. -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ** If the courts started interpreting the Second Amendment the way they interpret the First, we'd have a right to bear nuclear arms by now.--Ann Coulter
Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As Corporate Bully
Reeses Peices: >Try saying something good about Reagan, I wanna see if you can. He had good hair for a man his age. -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ** If the courts started interpreting the Second Amendment the way they interpret the First, we'd have a right to bear nuclear arms by now.--Ann Coulter
Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As
>> > Or should we debate the meaning of "is" also? >> >> how about the meaning of "socialist"? at the moment, your definition of >> it seems to be "everything outside of my personal opinion". > >I would define it as, to secure for the workers by hand or brain the full >fruits of their labour by means of common ownership of the means of >production distribution and exchange. As always you left out one bit "...owership of the means...exchange, buy forcing--through violence, or the threat of violence--the current owners of the means to give them to the *state* in trust of the people". Socialism is *inherently* the ownership of the "means of production" by the government, supposedly "in trust" for the people. As owners, they also *control* the means of production. Facism is the *control* of the means of production allegedly in the interests of "the people", while the ownership is still held in private hands. Of course, how you can truly be said to own something you cannot exercise control over is a little lost to me. Most government are at *least* a little facistic, or socialistic. Currently the US is midly facistic and moving more and more towards socialistic. England seems to be heading the other way--from socialism to facism. Both are abominations. Both assume *implicitly* that the market *needs* to be "controled", and **CAN** be controled at a central point. Both assumptions are blatantly wrong. -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ** If the courts started interpreting the Second Amendment the way they interpret the First, we'd have a right to bear nuclear arms by now.--Ann Coulter
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Re: Microsoft: A Day Of Satisfaction As
Sunder wrote: >Sounds a lot like communism to me. Hell, if the "workers" commonly own >something, it's communism. They don't work for themselves individually, No, it's called "Employee Stock Purchase Plans" aka "Stock Options". >monarchy, socialism, fascism, communism, dictatorship - yes Phill, these >are political systems that are contrary to the political interests of the >elite classes of the USA. Indeed, they're also contrary to those of the >super elite classes, as well as the middle classess and the lower classes, >and even the homless and "baby factory" classes. What? Shocked? -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ** If the courts started interpreting the Second Amendment the way they interpret the First, we'd have a right to bear nuclear arms by now.--Ann Coulter
