Re: Cygwin now on Python 3? What about Mercurial?

2021-03-07 Thread Russell VT via Cygwin
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:39 AM Ken Brown via Cygwin 
wrote:

> On 3/4/2021 6:05 AM, marco atzeri via Cygwin wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:27 AM Russell VT via Cygwin  wrote:
> >> Cygwin Enthusiasts!
> >
> > It seems the current package maintainer for Mercurial is not available
> for
> > the upgrade from 2.7 to 3.8.
> > We need to decide how to proceed
>
> The Mercurial maintainer (Jari) doesn't always follow the mailing list.
> I've
> added him to the CC.
>

Thanks Ken!

In the meantime, I'll  take a look at the Package Contributors' Guide, as
was suggested by another... and maybe I can hell fill in some blocks with
some of my own resources.

Cheers!
Russell VT

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Re: Cygwin now on Python 3? What about Mercurial?

2021-03-07 Thread Marco Atzeri via Cygwin




On 07.03.2021 10:32, Russell VT via Cygwin wrote:

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:39 AM Ken Brown via Cygwin 
wrote:


On 3/4/2021 6:05 AM, marco atzeri via Cygwin wrote:

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:27 AM Russell VT via Cygwin  wrote:

Cygwin Enthusiasts!


It seems the current package maintainer for Mercurial is not available

for

the upgrade from 2.7 to 3.8.
We need to decide how to proceed


The Mercurial maintainer (Jari) doesn't always follow the mailing list.
I've
added him to the CC.



Thanks Ken!

In the meantime, I'll  take a look at the Package Contributors' Guide, as
was suggested by another... and maybe I can hell fill in some blocks with
some of my own resources.

Cheers!
Russell VT



Mercurial has been just updated to version 5.7
https://cygwin.com/packages/summary/mercurial.html

and it now depends on python3.8

Regards
Marco
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mingw.org may be dead, but is referenced in cygwin docs

2021-03-07 Thread Mike Gran via Cygwin
Hello Cygwin-
I was reading the webpage "Building and Using DLLs".
That page suggests looking at mingw.org for more information.
mingw.org is no more. I don't know when or if it will return.
Thanks,
Michael
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: python packages

2021-03-07 Thread Jon Turney

On 10/02/2021 08:19, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin wrote:

On 10.02.2021 03:29, Yaakov Selkowitz via Cygwin wrote:

On Tue, 2021-02-09 at 21:31 +, Jon Turney wrote:

On 22/01/2021 21:37, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-announce via Cygwin wrote:

Several python packages have been promoted from test to stable


[...]

python{36,37,38}-lxml-4.6.2-1


Marco,

I noticed something a bit odd, which I'm not sure is expected or not.


expected :-(
Not time in the past to work on it.
I was focusing on deploying python38-* as first priority



If I install 'python3-lxml', I get 'python36-lxml', which doesn't do me
much good with 'python3' installed (which gets me python3.8 currently).


When I changed the packaging scheme from pythonX-* to pythonXY-*, 3.6 
was the
"3" version at the time, and the python3-* created alongside 
python36-* were

only meant to be upgrade helpers from that point forward.



Ok.  I'm not sure 'python3-foo' just as an upgrade helper is ideal.

Let me explain my use case:

I have a CI job which runs 'setup -q -P python3,python3-lxml'.  It's 
nice if that gets me something where "python3 -c 'import lxml'" works, 
and doesn't require changing every time the default python version is 
updated.



there is a bit of cleaning to do on the python3-* tree and package pull,
but first we need to patch cygport to stop creating additional
python3-* packages if not requested.

I guess after the Perl 5.32 I could look on it
as spring project.

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help please

2021-03-07 Thread COOL BLACKS via Cygwin
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Re: help please

2021-03-07 Thread cygwinautoreply--- via Cygwin
> 1 [main] john 2960 find_fast_cwd: WARNING: Couldn't compute FAST_CWD
>pointer.  Please report this problem to
>the public mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com
>Warning: detected hash type "whirlpool", but the string is also recognized
>as "whirlpool0"
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>instead
>Warning: detected hash type "whirlpool", but the string is also recognized
>as "whirlpool1"
>Use the "--format=whirlpool1" option to force loading these as that type
>instead

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Re: mingw.org may be dead, but is referenced in cygwin docs

2021-03-07 Thread Hugh S. Myers via Cygwin
try; http://mingw-w64.org/ instead else see Sourceforge...

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 8:42 AM Mike Gran via Cygwin 
wrote:

> Hello Cygwin-
> I was reading the webpage "Building and Using DLLs".
> That page suggests looking at mingw.org for more information.
> mingw.org is no more. I don't know when or if it will return.
> Thanks,
> Michael
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: python packages

2021-03-07 Thread Ken Brown via Cygwin

On 3/7/2021 10:37 AM, Jon Turney wrote:

On 10/02/2021 08:19, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin wrote:

On 10.02.2021 03:29, Yaakov Selkowitz via Cygwin wrote:

On Tue, 2021-02-09 at 21:31 +, Jon Turney wrote:

On 22/01/2021 21:37, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-announce via Cygwin wrote:

Several python packages have been promoted from test to stable


[...]

python{36,37,38}-lxml-4.6.2-1


Marco,

I noticed something a bit odd, which I'm not sure is expected or not.


expected :-(
Not time in the past to work on it.
I was focusing on deploying python38-* as first priority



If I install 'python3-lxml', I get 'python36-lxml', which doesn't do me
much good with 'python3' installed (which gets me python3.8 currently).


When I changed the packaging scheme from pythonX-* to pythonXY-*, 3.6 was the
"3" version at the time, and the python3-* created alongside python36-* were
only meant to be upgrade helpers from that point forward.



Ok.  I'm not sure 'python3-foo' just as an upgrade helper is ideal.

Let me explain my use case:

I have a CI job which runs 'setup -q -P python3,python3-lxml'.  It's nice if 
that gets me something where "python3 -c 'import lxml'" works, and doesn't 
require changing every time the default python version is updated.


Currently python3 is a meta-package whose main purpose is to require the default 
python version (currently python38).  Marco, couldn't you just make python3-foo 
a meta-package that requires the corresponding python*-foo (currently python38-foo)?


Ken
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Re: Cygwin Digest, Vol 13, Issue 22

2021-03-07 Thread Thomas Dickey
> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 15:05:55 + (UTC)
> From: Mike Gran 
> To: "cygwin@cygwin.com" 
> Subject: mingw.org may be dead, but is referenced in cygwin docs
> 
> Hello Cygwin-
> I was reading the webpage "Building and Using DLLs".
> That page suggests looking at mingw.org for more information.
> mingw.org is no more. I don't know when or if it will return.
> Thanks,
> Michael

https://osdn.net/projects/mingw/

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Re: mingw.org may be dead, but is referenced in cygwin docs

2021-03-07 Thread Brian Inglis

On 2021-03-07 08:58, Hugh S. Myers via Cygwin wrote:

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 8:42 AM Mike Gran wrote:

I was reading the webpage "Building and Using DLLs".
That page suggests looking at mingw.org for more information.
mingw.org is no more. I don't know when or if it will return.


> try; http://mingw-w64.org/ instead else see Sourceforge...

Good catch - patch submitted - fix on its way...

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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: zstd-1.4.9-1 and development headers / libraries

2021-03-07 Thread Achim Gratz


This release updates Zstandard to the latest upstream version, which is
a maintenance release with performance improvements and bugfixes.


Zstandard, or zstd as short version, is a fast lossless compression
algorithm, targeting real-time compression scenarios at zlib-level and
better compression ratios.

http://www.zstd.net/


Besides a standalone compression tool, development headers and a library
with comprehensive API are available both for Cygwin native applications
and cross-compilation toolchains in the following sub-packages:

libzstd-devel-1.4.9-1
libzstd1-1.4.9-1
mingw64-i686-zstd-1.4.9-1
mingw64-x86_64-zstd-1.4.9-1


Notes
-

This version is compiled with support for GZip, LZ4 and Xz compression.
Support for legacy formats from versions before 1.0 has been removed.

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: python packages

2021-03-07 Thread Marco Atzeri via Cygwin

On 07.03.2021 17:58, Ken Brown via Cygwin wrote:

I have a CI job which runs 'setup -q -P python3,python3-lxml'.  It's 
nice if that gets me something where "python3 -c 'import lxml'" works, 
and doesn't require changing every time the default python version is 
updated.


Currently python3 is a meta-package whose main purpose is to require the 
default python version (currently python38).  Marco, couldn't you just 
make python3-foo a meta-package that requires the corresponding 
python*-foo (currently python38-foo)?


Ken



the issue is that Cygport creates the "obsolete" python3-foo
that is replaced by python36-foo automatically.

we should change cygport to use python38 instead
---
$ cat python3-lxml/python3-lxml-4.6.2-1.hint
category: _obsolete
requires: python36-lxml
sdesc: "Obsoleted by python36-lxml"
ldesc: "The python3-lxml package is obsolete.  Selecting this package for
installation will cause the python36-lxml package, which replaces this
one, to be installed instead."
external-source: python-lxml
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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: weechat-3.1-1

2021-03-07 Thread Sébastien Helleu
Version 3.1-1 of "weechat" has been uploaded.

ChangeLog:

https://weechat.org/files/changelog/ChangeLog-3.1.html

DESCRIPTION
WeeChat is a fast, light and extensible chat client. It runs on many platforms
like Linux, Unix, BSD, GNU Hurd, Mac OS X and Windows (bash/ubuntu and
cygwin).

HOMEPAGE
https://weechat.org/

Sébastien Helleu.
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: python packages

2021-03-07 Thread Ken Brown via Cygwin

On 3/7/2021 2:34 PM, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin wrote:

On 07.03.2021 17:58, Ken Brown via Cygwin wrote:

I have a CI job which runs 'setup -q -P python3,python3-lxml'.  It's 
nice if that gets me something where "python3 -c 'import lxml'" 
works, and doesn't require changing every time the default python 
version is updated.


Currently python3 is a meta-package whose main purpose is to require 
the default python version (currently python38).  Marco, couldn't you 
just make python3-foo a meta-package that requires the corresponding 
python*-foo (currently python38-foo)?


Ken



the issue is that Cygport creates the "obsolete" python3-foo
that is replaced by python36-foo automatically.

we should change cygport to use python38 instead
---
$ cat python3-lxml/python3-lxml-4.6.2-1.hint
category: _obsolete
requires: python36-lxml
sdesc: "Obsoleted by python36-lxml"
ldesc: "The python3-lxml package is obsolete.  Selecting this package for
installation will cause the python36-lxml package, which replaces this
one, to be installed instead."
external-source: python-lxml
---


As long as you have to patch cygport anyway, maybe it would be better to 
have cygport create an empty (but not obsolete) package.  I think users 
might find it confusing that they have to install an obsolete package to 
get what they want.  Also, obsolete packages are normally hidden in the 
setup UI.


Ken
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: python packages

2021-03-07 Thread Brian Inglis

On 2021-03-07 13:44, Ken Brown via Cygwin wrote:

On 3/7/2021 2:34 PM, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin wrote:

On 07.03.2021 17:58, Ken Brown via Cygwin wrote:
I have a CI job which runs 'setup -q -P python3,python3-lxml'.  It's nice if 
that gets me something where "python3 -c 'import lxml'" works, and doesn't 
require changing every time the default python version is updated.


Currently python3 is a meta-package whose main purpose is to require the 
default python version (currently python38).  Marco, couldn't you just make 
python3-foo a meta-package that requires the corresponding python*-foo 
(currently python38-foo)?



the issue is that Cygport creates the "obsolete" python3-foo
that is replaced by python36-foo automatically.

we should change cygport to use python38 instead
---
$ cat python3-lxml/python3-lxml-4.6.2-1.hint
category: _obsolete
requires: python36-lxml
sdesc: "Obsoleted by python36-lxml"
ldesc: "The python3-lxml package is obsolete.  Selecting this package for
installation will cause the python36-lxml package, which replaces this
one, to be installed instead."
external-source: python-lxml


As long as you have to patch cygport anyway, maybe it would be better to have 
cygport create an empty (but not obsolete) package.  I think users might find it 
confusing that they have to install an obsolete package to get what they want.  
Also, obsolete packages are normally hidden in the setup UI.


Hidden generic/virtual package selections in Debian apt/-get and other package 
managers are annoying as users (I!) don't know how to do anything when they find 
out about them e.g.


$ apt show exim
Package: exim
State: not a real package (virtual)
N: Can't select candidate version from package exim as it has no 
candidate
N: Can't select versions from package 'exim' as it is purely virtual
N: No packages found

Suggest adding a category like ~Generic or ~Virtual to sort out of the way but 
be selectable if you search for Python, Perl, Ruby, etc.


I have been unable to find any definitive category list where that might be 
checked, except in cygwin-apps/calm/genini, and I believe that is not being used 
any more, as it is missing Debug but includes obsolete Mingw.


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