[ANNOUNCEMENT] [Updated] Perl distributions

2017-08-25 Thread Achim Gratz

The following Perl distributions have been added to Cygwin or updated to
their latest version on CPAN, respectively:

x86/x86_64
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perl-DateTime-1.44-1
perl-PerlIO-utf8_strict-0.007-1
perl-Sub-Name-0.21-1
perl-Sort-Key-1.33-1

noarch
--
perl-Class-Factory-Util-1.7-1
perl-DateTime-Calendar-Julian-0.04-1
perl-DateTime-Format-Builder-0.81-1
perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.74-1
perl-Package-DeprecationManager-0.17-1

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Re: Either trim quoted text or STOP BOTTOM POSTING

2017-08-25 Thread cyg Simple
On 8/24/2017 8:36 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
> If you can't trim your quoted text, then please stop burying the
> new stuff on the bottom.
> 

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed.  I see from a google
search that you've had problems with style in the past even on this list.

> 
> I've noticed it is most often bottom-poster who include all
> previous quotes -- and that's the worst -- having to WADE
> through EVERYTHING that came before, when EVERYONE on the
> list has already received it.  That's the rub: if you

List etiquette frowns on both bottom and top posting and warrants to
interleaving the replies.

> want to bottom-post, then trim what you are quoting to that
> which is necessary (and that's fine w/me).
> But if you are not good about trimming, then put the *IMPORTANT*
> stuff first (your NEW text).  That's write -- the most important
s/write/right
> thing in your email is what YOU are writing.  It should come
> first.  If you feel a need to quote large parts of the previous
> conversation, put it in an appendix -- because most people will
> have already received and read it.  Including it again is
> "superfluous", but that's why there are appendices.

What I'm replying to follows what I'm quoting to give context to the
reply.  My reply should never be more important that the reason for the
response.  Without the context of what I'm responding to there is no
reason to reply but I should create a new subject and thread.

> 
> I DO pay attention to the subject BTW.

Well all and good but you hijacked a thread to bring home a point which
is in itself just wrong.

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette

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Aliases - I learned something new

2017-08-25 Thread cyg Simple
In the research for my responses to the alias issue I learned something
I didn't know. Not a big deal but I thought I would share.

If the value of an alias ends in a space the word following the issuance
of the alias command is also checked for alias expansion.  Example:

$ alias t1='echo abc'
$ alias t2='dev'
$ t1 t2
abc t2

$ alias t1='echo abc '
$ t1 t2
abc def

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that I don't know everything. ;p

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Re: Aliases - I learned something new

2017-08-25 Thread Eric Blake
On 08/25/2017 10:00 AM, cyg Simple wrote:
> If the value of an alias ends in a space the word following the issuance
> of the alias command is also checked for alias expansion.

In fact, this behavior is POSIX-mandated, so that you can do things like:

alias exec='exec '

and get alias expansion on 'foo' when you do 'exec foo'

>  Example:
> 
> $ alias t1='echo abc'
> $ alias t2='dev'
> $ t1 t2
> abc t2
> 
> $ alias t1='echo abc '
> $ t1 t2
> abc def

Doesn't quite match what you typed above (dev vs. def), but illustrates
the point.

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Re: Either trim quoted text or STOP BOTTOM POSTING

2017-08-25 Thread Dan Kegel
I hadn't heard the name 'interleaved' style, I think that used to be
called top-posting plus appropriate trimming.

I sympathize with folks who are frustrated with whippersnappers not
knowing email conventions.
(It's almost as bad as not knowing how to use a manual gearshift :-)
- Dan

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Re: Re: Strange errors with gcc and top, even after rebaseall

2017-08-25 Thread nobodyO
Hi,

ok, then i need at work two 32bit versions, one for building software A and one 
for software B, and a 64bit version for working with Cygwin, e. g. locate, 
backups etc..
For switching between the versions i use moving (renaming) the directories of 
the other versions and replacing them with junction points to the active 
version.
Is there a better way for switching?

Rolf Freitag
 

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. August 2017 um 13:16 Uhr
Von: "Eliot Moss" 
An: cygwin@cygwin.com
Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Strange errors with gcc and top, even after rebaseall
On 8/24/2017 3:16 AM, nobo...@web.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the 64bit version, with all packages installed, has no problem.
> But i also want a 32bit version.

You can have the 32 bit version installed, but not all the packages.
Cygwin's approach to making fork work as closely as possible to the
way it works on Posix requires each Cygwin DLL to be put in its own
reserved place in the address space. The sum total of the DLLs
exceeds the available 32 bit address space.

Eliot Moss

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Re: Strange errors with gcc and top, even after rebaseall

2017-08-25 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, nobo...@web.de!

> ok, then i need at work two 32bit versions, one for building software A and
> one for software B,

Why can't you build both under one?…

> and a 64bit version for working with Cygwin, e. g. locate, backups etc..

> For switching between the versions i use moving (renaming) the directories
> of the other versions and replacing them with junction points to the active 
> version.
> Is there a better way for switching?

Why ever "switching" ?
Default Cygwin usage pattern allows for two arch versions to live
independently.


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Re: convenient trimming of quoted text to make points

2017-08-25 Thread L A Walsh

cyg Simple wrote:

On 8/24/2017 8:36 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
  

If you can't trim your quoted text, then please stop burying the
new stuff on the bottom.



Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed.  I see from a google
search that you've had problems with style in the past even on this list.
  

Maybe I'm one of the few who has RSI and gets irritated by having
to go through extra steps to skip large walls of text.

List etiquette frowns on both bottom and top posting and warrants to
interleaving the replies.
  

---
   I know of no list where that is commonly practiced.

Well all and good but you hijacked a thread to bring home a point which
is in itself just wrong.
  

To selectively quote things in your reply to make your point is the
problem here, since I replied to the original subject, extensively.
It was you who deleted the "on-topic" part of the message to make
your point.


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