Re: ls -t changes the cygwin-access time of a file

2017-04-11 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 11 07:15, Ronald Fischer wrote:
> I'm running on Windows 7 64bit, the disk has NTFS, and I have Windows
> enabled to track the correct file access time.
> 
> With Cygwin, I see the following oddity:
> 
> -0-1- ~/gitwrk/vp5  > ls -lu c:/tmp/x*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 FISRONA Domain Users 10 Apr 11 06:59 c:/tmp/xx
> (waiting a couple of minutes)
> -0-1- ~/gitwrk/vp5  > ls -lut c:/tmp/x*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 FISRONA Domain Users 10 Apr 11 07:01 c:/tmp/xx
> 
> I didn't touch the file in between, but the reported access time
> changed. Further experimentation shows, that the reported access time
> changes as soon as I use the -t option with ls. As long as I just do ls
> -lu, the access time does not change.

No, it changes every time you do an ls -l.  Yes, this is a bug, but it's
a bug in Windows, as old as Windows NT itself.

To fetch stat(2)-like meta information on a file, the caller has to open
the file (NtOpenFile), read the meta data (NtQueryInformationFile /
NtQuerySecurityObject) and close the file again (NtClose).

The problem is this: Even if you open the file explicitely with only
metadata access rights (READ_CONTROL | FILE_READ_ATTRIBUTES |
FILE_READ_EA), the access will count as data access and the file access
timestamp will be bumped.

Sticking to `fsutil behavior set disablelastaccess 1' works better.


Corinna

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missing config.rpath

2017-04-11 Thread Michael Hoenig

Aloha,

I am attempting to use cygport to compile LAME under cygwin-64.  I have 
the files from here:

https://sourceforge.net/p/cygwin-ports/lame/

But I keep getting this error:
cp: cannot stat '/usr/share/gettext/config.rpath': No such file or directory

In fact, I don't even have a /usr/share/gettext/ directory which is 
odd.  gettext 0.19.8.1-2 has been installed.  All other packages are up 
to date.  This is a fresh install.


Would be grateful for any pointers, thanks in advance!
Michael

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Re: missing config.rpath

2017-04-11 Thread Marco Atzeri

On 11/04/2017 12:29, Michael Hoenig wrote:

Aloha,

I am attempting to use cygport to compile LAME under cygwin-64.  I have
the files from here:
https://sourceforge.net/p/cygwin-ports/lame/

But I keep getting this error:
cp: cannot stat '/usr/share/gettext/config.rpath': No such file or
directory

In fact, I don't even have a /usr/share/gettext/ directory which is
odd.  gettext 0.19.8.1-2 has been installed.  All other packages are up
to date.  This is a fresh install.

Would be grateful for any pointers, thanks in advance!
Michael



Install gettext-devel-0.19.8.1-2

Regards
Marco


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Re: Use a default path in exec*p*() if PATH is unset?

2017-04-11 Thread Christian Franke

Thomas Wolff wrote:

Am 10.04.2017 um 22:29 schrieb Christian Franke:

A few years after https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-09/msg00204.html
I found another use case of an unset PATH variable:

The configure script from mandoc (http://mdocml.bsd.lv/) uses this 
interesting approach to query default CC command from make:


CC=`printf "all:\\n\\t@echo \\\$(CC)\\n" | env -i make -sf -`

Why does it `env -i` at all?


I guess because make result should not depend on environment. I agree 
that 'env -i' is probably to much, 'env -u CC' would be enough.




(And why does it prepend a \ to the output?)


It doesn't. The extra \\ is required because `...` is used instead of 
$(...):


$ printf "all:\\n\\t@echo \\\$(CC)\\n"
all:
@echo \$(CC)

$ CC=$(printf "all:\\n\\t@echo \\\$(CC)\\n" > /dev/tty)
all:
@echo \$(CC)

$ CC=`printf "all:\\n\\t@echo \\\$(CC)\\n" > /dev/tty`
all:
@echo $(CC)


It seems this scriptlet has an issue, rather than adapting core 
behaviour for it.


Of course Cygwin shouldn't be adapted solely for this single case.
But it possibly Cygwin should be adapted to the existing practice of 
various other open source *ix systems.


Interestingly the approach in newlib/libc/posix/execvp.c differs from 
Cygwin and others:
execvp() with PATH unset calls execv(). This has the same effect as 
execvp() with PATH set to current directory only.


Christian


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Re: missing config.rpath

2017-04-11 Thread Michael Hoenig

On 11/04/2017 00:44, Marco Atzeri wrote:

On 11/04/2017 12:29, Michael Hoenig wrote:

Aloha,

I am attempting to use cygport to compile LAME under cygwin-64.  I have
the files from here:
https://sourceforge.net/p/cygwin-ports/lame/

But I keep getting this error:
cp: cannot stat '/usr/share/gettext/config.rpath': No such file or
directory

In fact, I don't even have a /usr/share/gettext/ directory which is
odd.  gettext 0.19.8.1-2 has been installed.  All other packages are up
to date.  This is a fresh install.

Would be grateful for any pointers, thanks in advance!
Michael


Install gettext-devel-0.19.8.1-2

Regards
Marco


That worked.  Thanks for the quick help Marco!

Aloha, Michael

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warning message

2017-04-11 Thread Randy Stokes

  2 [main] rsync 6252 find_fast_cwd: WARNING: Couldn't compute FAST_CWD 
pointer. Please report this problem to the public mailing list 
cygwin@cygwin.com sending incremental file list

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Re: warning message

2017-04-11 Thread Marco Atzeri

On 11/04/2017 13:20, Randy Stokes wrote:


  2 [main] rsync 6252 find_fast_cwd: WARNING: Couldn't compute FAST_CWD 
pointer. Please report this problem to the public mailing list 
cygwin@cygwin.com sending incremental file list



Randy,
it is an ancient problem. Solved age ago

Ask whoever provided you with a very old copy
of cygwin1.dll to update to latest version.

Regards
Marco





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Re: Use a default path in exec*p*() if PATH is unset?

2017-04-11 Thread cyg Simple
On 4/11/2017 7:10 AM, Christian Franke wrote:
> Thomas Wolff wrote:
>> Am 10.04.2017 um 22:29 schrieb Christian Franke:
>>> A few years after https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-09/msg00204.html
>>> I found another use case of an unset PATH variable:
>>>
>>> The configure script from mandoc (http://mdocml.bsd.lv/) uses this
>>> interesting approach to query default CC command from make:
>>>
>>> CC=`printf "all:\\n\\t@echo \\\$(CC)\\n" | env -i make -sf -`
>> Why does it `env -i` at all?
> 
> I guess because make result should not depend on environment. I agree
> that 'env -i' is probably to much, 'env -u CC' would be enough.
> 

  -i, --ignore-environment  start with an empty environment

A relative use of the executable will not be found if the environment is
empty.

> 
>> (And why does it prepend a \ to the output?)
> 
> It doesn't. The extra \\ is required because `...` is used instead of
> $(...):
> 
> $ printf "all:\\n\\t@echo \\\$(CC)\\n"
> all:
> @echo \$(CC)
> 
> $ CC=$(printf "all:\\n\\t@echo \\\$(CC)\\n" > /dev/tty)
> all:
> @echo \$(CC)
> 
> $ CC=`printf "all:\\n\\t@echo \\\$(CC)\\n" > /dev/tty`
> all:
> @echo $(CC)
> 
> 
>> It seems this scriptlet has an issue, rather than adapting core
>> behaviour for it.
> 
> Of course Cygwin shouldn't be adapted solely for this single case.
> But it possibly Cygwin should be adapted to the existing practice of
> various other open source *ix systems.
> 

No, the other open source systems should adapt practices to defined
POSIX representation and not impose such "defaults" to their methods.
Using default behavior should never condoned as a default behavior,
unless defined explicitly can always be different elsewhere or even
change on the same system.

> Interestingly the approach in newlib/libc/posix/execvp.c differs from
> Cygwin and others:
> execvp() with PATH unset calls execv(). This has the same effect as
> execvp() with PATH set to current directory only.
> 

Why do you assume that this is an issue with execvp?  The user should
not expect that an undefined behavior behaves the same way on other
systems.  You might be able to get away with "env -i `which make` -sf -"
but this is broken based on POSIX.

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Re: Cygwin - Install Liquidsoap for Shoutcast or Icecast

2017-04-11 Thread Wayne Barron
I get a warning, that I totally looked over yesterday.
I went into the Repository, and installed all items with the name of OCAML
However, that did not seem to do anything, as all these items are
still missing and need to be installed.


>>> Preparing working source directory
*** Warning: Some build dependencies are not installed.
*** Warning: This package may end up missing features, or not build at all.
*** Warning: Consider installing these packages first before continuing:
*** Warning: ocaml(ao) ocaml(camlimages) ocaml(camomile)
ocaml(cry) ocaml(dtools) ocaml(duppy) ocaml(faad) ocaml(flac)
ocaml(gavl) ocaml(gd) ocaml(gstreamer) ocaml(ladspa) ocaml(lame)
ocaml(lastfm) ocaml(lo) ocaml(mad) ocaml(magic) ocaml(mm) ocaml(ogg)
ocaml(opus) ocaml(pcre) ocaml(portaudio) ocaml(pulseaudio)
ocaml(samplerate) ocaml(schroedinger) ocaml(sdl) ocaml(shine)
ocaml(soundtouch) ocaml(speex) ocaml(taglib) ocaml(theora)
ocaml(voaacenc) ocaml(vorbis) ocaml(xmlplaylist) ocaml(yojson)

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GNU Tools Cauldron 2017, Prague, September 8-10

2017-04-11 Thread Jan Hubicka
Hi,
we are very pleased to invite you all the GNU Tools Cauldron on 8-10 September
2017.  This year we will meet again in Prague, at Charles University.  Details
are here:

  https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/cauldron2017

As usual, please register (capacity is limited), send abstracts and ask
administrivia questions to tools-cauldron-ad...@googlegroups.com.

I plan to contact GCC, GDB, binutils, CGEN, DejaGnu, newlib and glibc mailing
lists. Please feel free to share with any other groups that are appropriate.

Looking forward to see you in Prague,
Honza Hubicka


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Can not get XWindows to Work in Cygwin/X .... I LOVE CYGWIN, USE IT EVERY DAY

2017-04-11 Thread mrushton
Dear Cygwin, 

I am trying to get the X Windows to work, I must be doing something wrong.  I 
read the FAQ and manual but no go.  I have Cygwin/X installed on a Windows 7 
Desktop.  

I type Startxwin or xwin and just get a xterm to the server ?   I got some 
directions I am gonna try tonight.  


I would like to take this chance to say thanks for the software  I LOVE 
CYGWIN, USE IT EVERY DAY.
I have shell scripting that runs my EDI programs ... it was on the korn shell 
on MKS toolkit  the one person i worked with wanted to save money and 
(unknow to me) never paid the Software Maint. fees to mks  and when I went 
to renew ... they wanted a huge sum of money and gave me a destuction date for 
the software  i explained that I needed to run 2 environments and could not 
destroy the software.   

They would not deal with me, help me or for that matter, return my calls or 
email. 


It took a little work ... but I ported my scripting to bash under Cygwin. 

Next time the arrogant sales rep called me asking what I wanted to do ... I 
said I moved to the free, Open Source Cygwin and simply have no further need of 
your overpriced software.  

OPEN SOURCE RULES !!!   


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RE: Can not get XWindows to Work in Cygwin/X .... I LOVE CYGWIN, USE IT EVERY DAY

2017-04-11 Thread Chase, Brian E.
Suggest reinstalling Cygwin with additional options as follows:
-  xwin-xdg-menu
-  xwinclip
-  xwininfo
-  cygrunsrv (if you're going to run an sshd server)
-  curl (if you test network connections of various protocols, useful 
when ping is blocked)
-  geany (lightweight IDE or programmer's editor)
-  mate-terminal ( or other Xwindow terminal programs (I like MATE 
terminal, but Xterm works also)
-  dia (Visio like vector based drawing program with some pretty good 
built in stencils)

There, that should get you started.  No need to remove anything you've already 
got installed, just run latest installer setup.exe or setup-x86.exe and pick 
the new programs.  When it finishes, you should have a new application in your 
Cygwin/X menu item in Windows called "XWin Server", run that.  You should then 
see two new icons pop up in the task bar, one is the X server and is only there 
to tell you that Xserver is active, the other looks like the bash launch icon, 
right click on that and voila, there is your new XDG desktop menu where all 
your graphical Cygwin programs will show up.

Let me know if this was helpful.

-Original Message-
From: cygwin-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of 
mrushton
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 1:55 PM
To: cygwin
Subject: Can not get XWindows to Work in Cygwin/X  I LOVE CYGWIN, USE IT 
EVERY DAY

Dear Cygwin, 

I am trying to get the X Windows to work, I must be doing something wrong.  I 
read the FAQ and manual but no go.  I have Cygwin/X installed on a Windows 7 
Desktop.  

I type Startxwin or xwin and just get a xterm to the server ?   I got some 
directions I am gonna try tonight.  


I would like to take this chance to say thanks for the software  I LOVE 
CYGWIN, USE IT EVERY DAY.
I have shell scripting that runs my EDI programs ... it was on the korn shell 
on MKS toolkit  the one person i worked with wanted to save money and 
(unknow to me) never paid the Software Maint. fees to mks  and when I went 
to renew ... they wanted a huge sum of money and gave me a destuction date for 
the software  i explained that I needed to run 2 environments and could not 
destroy the software.   

They would not deal with me, help me or for that matter, return my calls or 
email. 


It took a little work ... but I ported my scripting to bash under Cygwin. 

Next time the arrogant sales rep called me asking what I wanted to do ... I 
said I moved to the free, Open Source Cygwin and simply have no further need of 
your overpriced software.  

OPEN SOURCE RULES !!!   


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Re: Can not get XWindows to Work in Cygwin/X .... I LOVE CYGWIN, USE IT EVERY DAY

2017-04-11 Thread Achim Gratz
mrushton writes:
> I type Startxwin or xwin and just get a xterm to the server?

Well, then X works as it's supposed to be.  The standard setup is to use
a rootless server and have Windows manage the application windows (like
that xterm you're seeing).  There should be two new icons in the try in
Windows' taskbar.  Make them permanently visible, you can start some
applications via the context menu from there.

If you insist on using a root window and run a separate window manager
on it (which I would only recommend if you dedicate a separate monitor
to it), then WindowMaker is lightweight and doesn't pull in as many
dependecies as some of the other choices.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: Use a default path in exec*p*() if PATH is unset?

2017-04-11 Thread Christian Franke

cyg Simple wrote:


   -i, --ignore-environment  start with an empty environment

A relative use of the executable will not be found if the environment is
empty.


Not necessarily (see Linux, *BSD, ...). POSIX says this is 
"implementation-defined" - under the assumption that 'env' uses execvp() 
which is the case for the GNU coreutils version.




Interestingly the approach in newlib/libc/posix/execvp.c differs from
Cygwin and others:
execvp() with PATH unset calls execv(). This has the same effect as
execvp() with PATH set to current directory only.


Why do you assume that this is an issue with execvp?


I never did (otherwise this would be a thread on cygwin-patches list).

The above only means that it is IMO interesting that the Cygwin source 
package contains two implementations of execvp() which handle the unset 
PATH situation differently.




The user should
not expect that an undefined behavior behaves the same way on other
systems.


Of course. But even then it is a reasonable question which possible 
alternative should be implemented by Cygwin. Cygwin homepage says "Get 
that Linux feeling, ...". So "implementation-defined" behavior should 
possibly be close to Linux :-)


Christian


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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: gl2ps-1.4.0.-1

2017-04-11 Thread Marco Atzeri

Version 1.4.0-1 of
   gl2ps (source only)
   libgl2ps1,
   libgl2ps-devel
have been uploaded for cygwin.

GL2PS is a C library providing high quality vector output for any OpenGL
application. The main difference between GL2PS and other similar libraries
is the use of sorting algorithms capable of handling intersecting and
stretched polygons, as well as non manifold objects. GL2PS provides
advanced smooth shading and text rendering, culling of invisible
primitives, mixed vector/bitmap output, and much more...

CHANGES
This is a new mainstream release.
http://www.geuz.org/pipermail/gl2ps-announce/2017/23.html

WEBSITE
http://www.geuz.org/gl2ps/
http://gitlab.onelab.info/gl2ps/gl2ps

Regards
Marco Atzeri

If you have questions or comments, please send them to the
cygwin mailing list at: cygwin (at) cygwin (dot) com .

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Warning: Consider installing these packages ocaml(ao) ocaml(camlimages)

2017-04-11 Thread Wayne Barron
Hello All;

So, I am getting really close to having LiquidSoap installed.
I have run into an issue.


>>> Preparing working source directory
*** Warning: Some build dependencies are not installed.
*** Warning: This package may end up missing features, or not build at all.
*** Warning: Consider installing these packages first before continuing:
*** Warning: ocaml(ao) ocaml(camlimages) ocaml(camomile)
ocaml(cry) ocaml(dtools) ocaml(duppy) ocaml(faad) ocaml(flac)
ocaml(gavl) ocaml(gd) ocaml(gstreamer) ocaml(ladspa) ocaml(lame)
ocaml(lastfm) ocaml(lo) ocaml(mad) ocaml(magic) ocaml(mm) ocaml(ogg)
ocaml(opus) ocaml(pcre) ocaml(portaudio) ocaml(pulseaudio)
ocaml(samplerate) ocaml(schroedinger) ocaml(sdl) ocaml(shine)
ocaml(soundtouch) ocaml(speex) ocaml(taglib) ocaml(theora)
ocaml(voaacenc) ocaml(vorbis) ocaml(xmlplaylist) ocaml(yojson)


I rent into the Repository and isntalled everything that was OCAML
However, that did not resolve the above issue.

Could someone please provide the code to get them items installed?

And I am hoping, that having them installed, will resolve the issue below.

>checking build system type... Invalid configuration `Users': machine `Users' 
>not recognized
>configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub Users failed
>make[1]: Entering directory 
>'/home/carrzstudio/liquidsoap/liquidsoap-1.2.1-1.x86_64/build/ocaml-cry-0.4.1'
>make[1]: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
>make[1]: Leaving directory 
>'/home/carrzstudio/liquidsoap/liquidsoap-1.2.1-1.x86_64/build/ocaml-cry-0.4.1'
>make: *** [Makefile:11: all] Error 1
>*** ERROR: make failed


Thanks, All;
Wayne

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Re: Warning: Consider installing these packages ocaml(ao) ocaml(camlimages)

2017-04-11 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2017-04-11 17:40, Wayne Barron wrote:
> ocaml(ao) ocaml(camlimages) ocaml(camomile) ocaml(cry) ocaml(dtools)
> ocaml(duppy) ocaml(faad) ocaml(flac) ocaml(gavl) ocaml(gd)
> ocaml(gstreamer) ocaml(ladspa) ocaml(lame) ocaml(lastfm) ocaml(lo)
> ocaml(mad) ocaml(magic) ocaml(mm) ocaml(ogg) ocaml(opus) ocaml(pcre)
> ocaml(portaudio) ocaml(pulseaudio) ocaml(samplerate)
> ocaml(schroedinger) ocaml(sdl) ocaml(shine) ocaml(soundtouch)
> ocaml(speex) ocaml(taglib) ocaml(theora) ocaml(voaacenc)
> ocaml(vorbis) ocaml(xmlplaylist) ocaml(yojson)

Ignore the ocaml, prefix the names with lib, and for Cygwin add 
*-devel to get the names of the packages to install; if using cygport, 
consider adding the following to DEPEND="...":

libao-devel libgd-devel libgstreamer1.0-devel libmad-devel libogg-devel 
libopus-devel libpcre{,2}-devel libportaudio-devel libportaudiocpp-devel 
libsamplerate-devel libschroedinger1.0-devel libtheora-devel 
libvorbis-devel

install those Cygwin packages, possibly curl, pkg-config, and 
gstreamer1.0-plugins-{base,doc}, and check the ocaml and gstreamer docs 
for additional plugins you may need to install, and edit ocaml PACKAGES
to disable unavailable optional libraries.

You might want to work thru the install alternatives on:
http://liquidsoap.fm/download.html
to see which approach is easiest for you to get something installed and 
running. You may want to start by copying PACKAGES.minimal to PACKAGES 
as recommended and decide what you really need.

HTH and good luck.

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man page of CYGPORT(1) has an old content. should be updated.

2017-04-11 Thread dodo .
Hello,

I report one thing about manpage for cygport.

Man page CYGPORT(1) seems to show old content about 'all' COMMAND.
According to manpage CYGPORT(1),  'all' COMMMAND means 'run all of the
above, excluding finish.'
However 'download' COMMAND is excepted on actual performing.
Thus, source patching with $(PATCH_URI} does not perform.

Latest README of cygport describes correct information.
https://github.com/cygwinports/cygport/blob/master/README
According to it, fetch(download) COMMAND is not included in 'all'.

I think manpage CYGPORT(1) should be updated.

Currently I am using Cygwin as follows.

$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-6.1-WOW turtle0 2.8.0(0.309/5/3) 2017-04-01 20:42 i686 Cygwin

$ cygport --version
cygport 0.24.0
...

Regard.

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Re: Warning: Consider installing these packages ocaml(ao) ocaml(camlimages)

2017-04-11 Thread Wayne Barron
Hey, Brian.
Are you referring too.
>You might want to work through the install alternatives on:
As in maybe using the recommended solution, of which is the top suggestion.
http://opam.ocaml.org

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