Re: cygwin on usb problems

2007-06-25 Thread nano thief

On 6/25/07, Brian Dessent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thorsten Kampe wrote:

> > The last solution I could think of was removing the umask 022 command from
> > the /etc/profile. This (I think) would have the effect of making all new
> > created files having 777 or 666 permissions. However, does this affect files
> > created from scripts or other programs? Or is there another solution to my
> > problem that I haven't thought of?
>
> Yeah, switch back to FAT. I had the same issue. NTFS without
> permissions is senseless.

It's not senseless.  Even without permissions, NTFS has a lot more going
for it than FAT, such as compression, hard links, non-insane timestamp
accuracy, largefile support, ...


Yes, I was using it for the file compression. With my install of
cygwin, it almost halved the installation size, which is very useful
when you have a ton of programs on your usb and only 4gb to play
with...



To the OP, I think you're looking for CYGWIN=nontsec.


Thanks that worked great! The only problem I had after that was that
existing NTFS permissions were still there, i.e opening a folder using
explorer would be refused when on a wrong computer. I fixed that by
moving all my files onto a fat partition, then back to my ntfs
partition.

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Xfig 3.2.5 under CygWin

2007-06-25 Thread Francky Leyn

Dear,

would it be possible to update Xfig under CygWin?
At the moment this is version 3.2.4. I hit a lot
of bugs/lacking functionality in that version. According
to the author these are solved in release 3.2.5,
togetherwith lots of other bugfixes. The release
3.2.4 is 5 years old.

Would it be possible to set version 3.2.5 ready for download?

Best regards,

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noweb under cygwin

2007-06-25 Thread Francky Leyn

Dear,

I'm a user of the literate programming tool noweb
(http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~nr/noweb/intro.html).
It's a pitty this program isn't included in the cygwin
distribution.

Could you please consider to take up the program
suite in the cygwin distribution?

Let me hear about it,

Best regards,

Francky Leyn


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aux as filename

2007-06-25 Thread Francky Leyn

Dear,

I have to restore a DVD with a copy of a UNIX filesystem on, on a
Windows NTFS system. I use for that a cygwin cp.

One of the problems is that there are  files on that filesystem with names
like aux.c, aux.h, and aux.gp. This is a problem because aux is a name
reserved by Windows, and because Windows makes no difference
between *aux* and aux.

Whatever cygwin command I issue on those aux.* files, it hangs.
cp, find, mv, ls, and so on, they all "hang" whenever they encounter
the first aux.* file. Perhaps this is because they use stat, and this
underlying stat aux.* hangs.

Why is this? Could cygwin stat not handle this exception,  so that
all these commands no longer hang? 


Why does it hang? After all, the aux.* file is on
an ISO 9660? file system, not on a NTFS file system.

Eric Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This is done in cygwin, using the notion of 'managed mounts'.


Can someone explain me or give me a pointer to documentation
how I can use this in my case?

How do we solve this? Due to this exception, I must copy everything
manually for the moment. Time consuming, error prone, prehistorically,
and not the UNIX blast I'm used to.

Best regards,

Francky Leyn


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Re: aux as filename

2007-06-25 Thread Eric Blake
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According to Francky Leyn on 6/25/2007 3:20 AM:
> 
> Whatever cygwin command I issue on those aux.* files, it hangs.
> cp, find, mv, ls, and so on, they all "hang" whenever they encounter
> the first aux.* file. Perhaps this is because they use stat, and this
> underlying stat aux.* hangs.

You're not the first to discover this.

> 
> Why is this? Could cygwin stat not handle this exception,  so that
> all these commands no longer hang?
> Why does it hang? After all, the aux.* file is on
> an ISO 9660? file system, not on a NTFS file system.

By default, unless you use a managed mount, cygwin defers to Windows
filename parsing.  If windows hangs on a special name (which it does on
aux), then so does cygwin, because deep down, cygwin is just a Windows
application.  The aux filename is special to Windows no matter where it is
encountered.

>> This is done in cygwin, using the notion of 'managed mounts'.
> 
> Can someone explain me or give me a pointer to documentation
> how I can use this in my case?

man mount

In short, if you want to expand a tarball that contains a file such as
aux.c, or that has both foo and FOO, or any other problematic combination,
the easiest solution is to:

mkdir managed
mount -o managed "`cygpath -am managed" managed
cd managed
tar xvf problematic.tar

> 
> How do we solve this? Due to this exception, I must copy everything
> manually for the moment. Time consuming, error prone, prehistorically,
> and not the UNIX blast I'm used to.

Or better yet, don't create such problematic names in the first place when
creating your DVD.  And why aren't managed mounts the default?  Because
they slow down processing (which is already slow, since cygwin is an
emulation layer), and they reduce the already short maximum file name
limitations imposed by Windows.

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Re: noweb under cygwin

2007-06-25 Thread Francky Leyn

Eric Blake wrote:

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According to Francky Leyn on 6/25/2007 2:27 AM:
  

Dear,

I'm a user of the literate programming tool noweb
(http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~nr/noweb/intro.html).
It's a pitty this program isn't included in the cygwin
distribution.

Could you please consider to take up the program
suite in the cygwin distribution?



Since you want it so much, why don't you volunteer to become the cygwin
maintainer?  http://cygwin.com/setup.html
  

You are omnipresent in all many newsgroups?

I think other people have far better skills and competence than I do  to
1) tackle the problem in the first place
2) do it in a clean way, according to the high GNU standards.

I want to note that noweb uses a plethora of scripting languages and
porting is thus probably only reserved for the happy few. I know by start
it will be to difficult for me.

noweb would be a VERY nice addition to the cygwin suite. In the literate
programming world, it is the tool of first or second choice. If you are 
willing

to freak and want ultimate control you use Knuths tool. If you just want a
straightforward tool, you use noweb. noweb has a very nice extendable and
concept.

Regards,

Francky


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Re: noweb under cygwin

2007-06-25 Thread Eric Blake
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According to Francky Leyn on 6/25/2007 2:27 AM:
> Dear,
> 
> I'm a user of the literate programming tool noweb
> (http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~nr/noweb/intro.html).
> It's a pitty this program isn't included in the cygwin
> distribution.
> 
> Could you please consider to take up the program
> suite in the cygwin distribution?

Since you want it so much, why don't you volunteer to become the cygwin
maintainer?  http://cygwin.com/setup.html

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Re: noweb under cygwin

2007-06-25 Thread Eric Blake
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According to Francky Leyn on 6/25/2007 6:16 AM:
>> You are omnipresent in all many newsgroups?

This is a mailing list, not a newsgroup.  And I'm not on every mailing
list, just the ones relative to my current volunteer capacities (although
you are correct that it means I happen to track both coreutils and cygwin
issues).

> 
>> I think other people have far better skills and competence than I do  to
>> 1) tackle the problem in the first place
>> 2) do it in a clean way, according to the high GNU standards.

Cygwin isn't the GNU project - and we are willing to help people out who
are willing to put forth an effort to volunteer.  I became a package
maintainer several years ago when I noticed that diffstat wasn't provided
on cygwin, and it has all grown from there.

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Re: aux as filename

2007-06-25 Thread Eric Blake
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According to Eric Blake on 6/25/2007 6:14 AM:
> In short, if you want to expand a tarball that contains a file such as
> aux.c, or that has both foo and FOO, or any other problematic combination,
> the easiest solution is to:
> 
> mkdir managed
> mount -o managed "`cygpath -am managed" managed

well, fix the typo first...
mount -o managed "`cygpath -am managed`" managed

> cd managed
> tar xvf problematic.tar
> 
>> How do we solve this? Due to this exception, I must copy everything
>> manually for the moment. Time consuming, error prone, prehistorically,
>> and not the UNIX blast I'm used to.
> 
> Or better yet, don't create such problematic names in the first place when
> creating your DVD.  And why aren't managed mounts the default?  Because
> they slow down processing (which is already slow, since cygwin is an
> emulation layer), and they reduce the already short maximum file name
> limitations imposed by Windows.
> 

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rsync windows hang

2007-06-25 Thread Jerome Haltom
Trying to get rsync running on Windows. It seems to "hang" when
transferring a certain excel spreadsheet. As far as I can tell the
spreadsheet is not open by anybody and is copyable using `dd`. Hence,
cygwin can read it just fine. Any idea why this might be hanging in
rsync?

rsync on Windows is using no CPU when it hits this file and it does not
proceed.

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RE: rsync windows hang

2007-06-25 Thread Dave Korn
On 25 June 2007 16:58, Jerome Haltom wrote:

> Trying to get rsync running on Windows. It seems to "hang" when
> transferring a certain excel spreadsheet. As far as I can tell the
> spreadsheet is not open by anybody and is copyable using `dd`. Hence,
> cygwin can read it just fine. Any idea why this might be hanging in
> rsync?
> 
> rsync on Windows is using no CPU when it hits this file and it does not
> proceed.

  It's far from obvious.  Is your anti-virus conceivably interfering?  Is the
file unusually massive?  Can rsync transfer a copy of the file made with dd?
Can rsync transfer a copy of the file renamed?

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Re: rsync windows hang

2007-06-25 Thread Steven Hartland
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From: "Dave Korn"



Trying to get rsync running on Windows. It seems to "hang" when
transferring a certain excel spreadsheet. As far as I can tell the
spreadsheet is not open by anybody and is copyable using `dd`. Hence,
cygwin can read it just fine. Any idea why this might be hanging in
rsync?

rsync on Windows is using no CPU when it hits this file and it does not
proceed.


 It's far from obvious.  Is your anti-virus conceivably interfering?  Is the
file unusually massive?  Can rsync transfer a copy of the file made with dd?
Can rsync transfer a copy of the file renamed?


All though this may not be the case here but rsync over ssh is simply
unusable under cygwin for the most part. I've tried for years to get
it working reliably and its simply not possible I'm afraid.

It seems related to the very slow ssh transfer issue and I suspect
some low level thing to due with buffering and the way sockets
are dealt with in the cygwin core is at fault.

There are two options we've used in the past. rsync in daemon mode
which doesn't use ssh and also doesn't seem to be as unstable or
use SFU version rsync which doesn't seem to have the same issues
and also has very good throughput under ssh as well.

P.S. This is NOT a dig at cygwin as this is not some simple
problem that can be fixed easily its a nasty timing issue thing
by all investigation. Yes it would be nice to see it fixed but
its one part of a very valuable system which work faultlessly
for the most part.


   Regards
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RE: rsync windows hang

2007-06-25 Thread Dave Korn
On 25 June 2007 17:47, Steven Hartland wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave Korn"
> 
>>> Trying to get rsync running on Windows. It seems to "hang" when
>>> transferring a certain excel spreadsheet. As far as I can tell the
>>> spreadsheet is not open by anybody and is copyable using `dd`. Hence,
>>> cygwin can read it just fine. Any idea why this might be hanging in rsync?
>>> 
>>> rsync on Windows is using no CPU when it hits this file and it does not
>>> proceed.
>> 
>>  It's far from obvious.  Is your anti-virus conceivably interfering?  Is
>> the file unusually massive?  Can rsync transfer a copy of the file made
>> with dd? Can rsync transfer a copy of the file renamed?
> 
> All though this may not be the case here but rsync over ssh is simply
> unusable under cygwin for the most part. I've tried for years to get
> it working reliably and its simply not possible I'm afraid.

  Off the top of my head, I thought these sorts of problems usually cropped up
only when transferring huge amounts of data or large file sets?

  OTOH that does suggest another question to the OP:  does it make a
difference whether you use rsync to pull this file or push it?


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Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
I GOT IT WORKING!

The clues that got me thinking were the login problems with cron-config
and the manual timer setup problems with TSReader.  Both complained about
not being able to complete, because of login problems.

So, I set up the system in classic login mode and sure enough, I couldn't
log in.  Somehow, someway, I got set with no password.  Once I set it,
cron-config worked and cron started my job and the program didn't hang.

It had to be installed running as me, not privledged user.

After all this, it would be real helpful to others to update the User Doc
so that there is a section on how to start services like cron and ssh,
to name a couple.  Even the FAQ should have entries about it.  Right now
neither contain anything at all on how to start these things and they
definately do not start like they would under Unix/Linux.

Thanks for the hints.

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Re: rsync windows hang

2007-06-25 Thread Steven Hartland
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From: "Dave Korn"

 Off the top of my head, I thought these sorts of problems usually cropped up
only when transferring huge amounts of data or large file sets?



From our experience the larger the number of files and the larger

the transfer the higher the chance of it stalling yes but it really
doesn't take much difference I had a 200Kb exe in a diff the other
day which just wouldn't transfer. It stalled every time on startup.
Some times enabling verbose and progress helps as well but not always.

I ended up spending the 2 hours to get SFU installed on the host in
the end it was pissing me off that much.


 OTOH that does suggest another question to the OP:  does it make a
difference whether you use rsync to pull this file or push it?


This definitely makes a difference with SCP but tbh I haven't tried
with rsync we always syncing from an cygwin box.

   Regards
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Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

Vidiot wrote:

I GOT IT WORKING!

The clues that got me thinking were the login problems with cron-config
and the manual timer setup problems with TSReader.  Both complained about
not being able to complete, because of login problems.

So, I set up the system in classic login mode and sure enough, I couldn't
log in.  Somehow, someway, I got set with no password.  Once I set it,
cron-config worked and cron started my job and the program didn't hang.

It had to be installed running as me, not privledged user.

After all this, it would be real helpful to others to update the User Doc
so that there is a section on how to start services like cron and ssh,
to name a couple.  Even the FAQ should have entries about it.  Right now
neither contain anything at all on how to start these things and they
definately do not start like they would under Unix/Linux.


Both 'cron' and 'ssh' have config scripts that handle installing and
starting the service for you, if you let them.  They are documented in
their README files in '/usr/share/doc/Cygwin'.  'cygrunsrv --help' gives
you an overview of the command and it's available options.


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Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
Larry responded:

>Both 'cron' and 'ssh' have config scripts that handle installing and
>starting the service for you, if you let them.  They are documented in
>their README files in '/usr/share/doc/Cygwin'.  'cygrunsrv --help' gives
>you an overview of the command and it's available options.

That is all fine and dandy if you know where to look.  A new user isn't
going to have a clue and I hadn't dealt with configuring cygwin in over a year,
so I promptly forgot.

So, new users are going to rely on the on-line documentation.  In this
case there is nothing.  Would be be that difficult to document the
configuration of programs like this on line?  The web page did say that the
user doc is comprehensive and it isn't.  And, the FAQ is meant for queries
like this and it too has nothing.

I think it is a suggest well worth looking into.

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RE: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Dave Korn
On 25 June 2007 19:02, Vidiot wrote:

> Larry responded:
> 
>> Both 'cron' and 'ssh' have config scripts that handle installing and
>> starting the service for you, if you let them.  They are documented in
>> their README files in '/usr/share/doc/Cygwin'.  'cygrunsrv --help' gives
>> you an overview of the command and it's available options.
> 
> That is all fine and dandy if you know where to look.  A new user isn't
> going to have a clue and I hadn't dealt with configuring cygwin in over a
> year, so I promptly forgot.
> 
> So, new users are going to rely on the on-line documentation.  In this
> case there is nothing.  Would be be that difficult to document the
> configuration of programs like this on line?  The web page did say that the
> user doc is comprehensive and it isn't.  And, the FAQ is meant for queries
> like this and it too has nothing.
> 
> I think it is a suggest well worth looking into.

  No, it's a really bad idea.

  Your suggestion amounts to "People might look in the wrong place for the
documentation, so put all the documentation in every single place they might
look".

  Of course, anyone who bothers to read the FAQ will see the entry entitled
"Where's the documentation", and know where to look for it, and anyone who
doesn't bother to read the FAQ isn't going to see the information about how to
set up servers even if we did pointlessly duplicate it there, so your idea
would help precisely zero people.

  Do you work for the Department of Redundancy Department, by any chance?


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Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
I just thought of something else.

Why not have the setup program have a section where it asks if the user wants
to start services like cron and ssh, where there would be the selection box
and at the bottom of the GUI it would tell the user to reference the readme
files in the doc directory as well as running cygrunsrv --help to start
services not selected during setup.

I'm actually surprised that cron isn't started by default, since it has been
with every Unix/Linux install I've done.  The ssh daemon has been optional
and must be set up later.

In any event, asking during the install would be nice, even if it is a
reinstall.

Food for thought.

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Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

Vidiot wrote:

I just thought of something else.

Why not have the setup program have a section where it asks if the user wants
to start services like cron and ssh, where there would be the selection box
and at the bottom of the GUI it would tell the user to reference the readme
files in the doc directory as well as running cygrunsrv --help to start
services not selected during setup.

I'm actually surprised that cron isn't started by default, since it has been
with every Unix/Linux install I've done.  The ssh daemon has been optional
and must be set up later.

In any event, asking during the install would be nice, even if it is a
reinstall.

Food for thought.



You may be surprised to find out that these ideas are not new.  What's been
missing in the past has been patches that do something like what you suggest
in a compelling way.  If you're interested, you may be able to remedy that.


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Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
Larry:

>You may be surprised to find out that these ideas are not new.  What's been
>missing in the past has been patches that do something like what you suggest
>in a compelling way.  If you're interested, you may be able to remedy that.

I'm happy to read that the idea isn't new.

As much as I'd like to update the setup program, I know zero about Windoze
programming, and really prefer to keep it that way.  I'm a Unix programmer,
born an bred.  If you were talking Sun package install, then it would be
right up my alley.

And since I suspect the setup program requires Windoze programming knowledge,
I would not be any help in adding that feature.

It must not be easy, or it would have been done by now?

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Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
DaveK responded:

>  No, it's a really bad idea.

Interesting.

>  Your suggestion amounts to "People might look in the wrong place for the
>documentation, so put all the documentation in every single place they might
>look".

Yes and no.  As I pointed out, the on line web page says that the user
doc, in HTML and PDF format, is a COMPREHENSIVE user manual.  Last time I
looked, comprehensive didn't mean that important items were left out of
the documentation.  Starting services like cron and ssh are important.

You're saying that the user doc (HTML or PDF versions) is NOT a good place for
users to find instructions?  Strange, that is what I thought comprehensive
user docs were for.  So, for a user to click on User Docs and then search
those pages for cron configuration is wrong?  It is the front line document
on the web site and should contain said information. 

I'm sorry but that is just plain opposite of what on-line documentation is
supposed to provide.

>  Of course, anyone who bothers to read the FAQ will see the entry entitled
>"Where's the documentation", and know where to look for it, and anyone who
>doesn't bother to read the FAQ isn't going to see the information about how to
>set up servers even if we did pointlessly duplicate it there, so your idea
>would help precisely zero people.

The FAQ is huge.  I did a search of the FAQ for "cron" (browser text edit
search) and came up blank.

Gee, that is what FAQs are for, asking questions that are supposidly elsewhere
in the documentation (one hopes) and getting pointers as to where to go, if
it can be done.  So a simple FAQ entry like:

Q: How do I start services like cron, ssh and others?
A; See the README file pertaining to the particular service in
   /usr/share/doc/CYGWIN or run "cygrunsrv --help"

I think I got the path right, it is from memory, but you get the point.
It is simple entries like that that are user friendly.

Why are you so antiuser?

>  Do you work for the Department of Redundancy Department, by any chance?

Finding info in more than one place is not bad.  Cross referencing in
documentation is a good thing.

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suggestion for FAQ update

2007-06-25 Thread DePriest, Jason R.

http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.using.html#faq.using.firewall

26. What firewall should I use with Cygwin?
We have had good reports about Kerio Personal Firewall, ZoneLabs
Integrity Desktop, and the built-in firewall in Windows XP. Other
well-known products including ZoneAlarm and Norton Internet Security
have caused problems for some users but work fine for others. At last
report, Agnitum Outpost did not work with Cygwin. If you are having
strange connection-related problems, disabling the firewall is a good
troubleshooting step (as is closing or disabling all other running
applications, especially resource-intensive processes such as indexed
search).

Kerio Personal Firewall is now owned by Sunbelt Software.  It has been
discussed on this list that it no longer plays well with Cygwin.

Also, I use Comodo Personal Firewall and I have no issues at all with
Cygwin except for the 'x is trying to do y' pop-ups that go away after
I tell it to allow it.

So my suggestions is to no longer say Kerio is a good choice and to
add Comodo as a good choice if others concur.

-Jason

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Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Igor Peshansky
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Vidiot wrote:

> Larry responded:
>
> >Both 'cron' and 'ssh' have config scripts that handle installing and
> >starting the service for you, if you let them.  They are documented in
> >their README files in '/usr/share/doc/Cygwin'.  'cygrunsrv --help' gives
> >you an overview of the command and it's available options.
>
> That is all fine and dandy if you know where to look.  A new user isn't
> going to have a clue and I hadn't dealt with configuring cygwin in over
> a year, so I promptly forgot.
>
> So, new users are going to rely on the on-line documentation.  In this
> case there is nothing.  Would be be that difficult to document the
> configuration of programs like this on line?  The web page did say that
> the user doc is comprehensive and it isn't.  And, the FAQ is meant for
> queries like this and it too has nothing.

What do you mean, nothing?  What about this:
?
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Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
Igor posted:

>What do you mean, nothing?  What about this:
>?

As I indicated in a previous posting, I text searched the large FAQ for
cron and came up with nothing.

Your reference has the following:

There is a comprehensive Cygwin User's Guide at
http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/cygwin-ug-net.html and an API Reference at
http://cygwin.com/cygwin-api/cygwin-api.html.


As mentioned in previous postings, notice the word comprehensive.  The manual
is not so comprehensive if it doesn't describe how to set up services like
cron (especially since cron is such a common Unix/Linux service).

It would have been nice if I had read that.  Dumb thing is that I looked
right at that as well.  It was I that I was mentally focused on finding
references to cron.

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Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

Vidiot wrote:

Larry:


You may be surprised to find out that these ideas are not new.  What's been
missing in the past has been patches that do something like what you suggest
in a compelling way.  If you're interested, you may be able to remedy that.


I'm happy to read that the idea isn't new.

As much as I'd like to update the setup program, I know zero about Windoze
programming, and really prefer to keep it that way.  I'm a Unix programmer,
born an bred.  If you were talking Sun package install, then it would be
right up my alley.

And since I suspect the setup program requires Windoze programming knowledge,
I would not be any help in adding that feature.

It must not be easy, or it would have been done by now?



The 'setup.exe' code is in a "challenged" state which can make adding
features "challenging".  Perhaps you'd like to provide a Sun installer
and then port it to Cygwin. ;-)


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Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
Larry responded:

>The 'setup.exe' code is in a "challenged" state which can make adding
>features "challenging".  Perhaps you'd like to provide a Sun installer
>and then port it to Cygwin. ;-)

Now we are just being funny. :-)  I said that I could use the Sun package
facility for doing installs and uninstalls, not that I could write such
a facility, especially for Windoze.

Sorry to read that setup is challenged.

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Re: rsync windows hang

2007-06-25 Thread Lewis Hyatt



All though this may not be the case here but rsync over ssh is simply
unusable under cygwin for the most part. I've tried for years to get
it working reliably and its simply not possible I'm afraid.

It seems related to the very slow ssh transfer issue and I suspect
some low level thing to due with buffering and the way sockets
are dealt with in the cygwin core is at fault.

There are two options we've used in the past. rsync in daemon mode
which doesn't use ssh and also doesn't seem to be as unstable or
use SFU version rsync which doesn't seem to have the same issues
and also has very good throughput under ssh as well.

P.S. This is NOT a dig at cygwin as this is not some simple
problem that can be fixed easily its a nasty timing issue thing
by all investigation. Yes it would be nice to see it fixed but
its one part of a very valuable system which work faultlessly
for the most part.


I use rsync + ssh every day on files of all sizes and it works fine for 
me...


As for the original post: what command line are you typing?

-lewis


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Build instructions for OpenSSH 3.8.1 on Cygwin platform

2007-06-25 Thread Siva
I would like to obtain complete instructions for building (recreating) 
the net binary distro of Cygwin OpenSSH 3.8.1 from its sources.


Can you point me to a URL which describes this procedure, or, where can 
I get this information.


Thank you.

Siva


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Re: Build instructions for OpenSSH 3.8.1 on Cygwin platform

2007-06-25 Thread Brian Dessent
Siva wrote:

> I would like to obtain complete instructions for building (recreating)
> the net binary distro of Cygwin OpenSSH 3.8.1 from its sources.
> 
> Can you point me to a URL which describes this procedure, or, where can
> I get this information.

That version is more than three years old.  I doubt you're going to find
anything version specific, and especially not that ancient.

The steps used to build the package are listed at the end of the
openssh.README, and I doubt it's changed much over the years.  Besides,
the package builds OOTB without patches so it's not like we're talking
about anything conceptually far removed from "./configure && make".

Brian

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