"drive j not mapped"

[Christopher Gardner]

just downloaded cygwin,
click on desktop icon, and ***drive j not mapped*** appears on screen,
click a button and hey presto, it closes down.
what is going on?

chris


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Tetex installation problem on cygwin

[Kim Youngbae]

Dear Cygwin:
Recently I set up cygwin on XPpro SP2 with setup.exe (version 2.457.2.2)
including tetex package. After installation, I started tetex but it has 
been stopped
with following message:
-

$tex a.tex
This is TeXk, Version 3.141592 (Web2C 7.5.3)
file:line:error style messages enabled.
%&-line parsing enabled.
kpathsea: Running mktexfmt tex.fmt
tcfmgr: no info for file `fmtutil.cnf' in map 
`/usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr.map'.
fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found. 
I can't find the format file `tex.fmt'! 
-

And the following is tcfmgr.map
-
# file  rel dir search path progname
config  dvipdfm/config  other text filesdvipdfm
config.ps   dvips/configdvips config-
modes.mfmetafont/misc   .mf -
pdftexconfig.textex/generic/config  .tex-
fmtutil.cnf web2c   web2c files -
mktex.cnf   web2c   web2c files -
updmap.cfg  web2c   web2c files -
XDvixdviother text filesxdvi
-
I assumed a path problem, and
I type the following in cygwin.bat file.
set TEXMFCNF='/usr/share/texmf/web2c'
But It does not works.
Is it a problem of configuration or installation of tetex?
I attached output of cygcheck -svr
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Tetex installation problem on cygwin

[Kim Youngbae]

Dear Cygwin:
Recently I set up cygwin on XPpro SP2 with setup.exe (version 2.457.2.2)
including tetex package. After installation, I started tetex but it has 
been stopped
with following message:
-

$tex a.tex
This is TeXk, Version 3.141592 (Web2C 7.5.3)
file:line:error style messages enabled.
%&-line parsing enabled.
kpathsea: Running mktexfmt tex.fmt
tcfmgr: no info for file `fmtutil.cnf' in map 
`/usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr.map'.
fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found. 
I can't find the format file `tex.fmt'! 
-

And the following is tcfmgr.map
-
# file  rel dir search path progname
config  dvipdfm/config  other text filesdvipdfm
config.ps   dvips/configdvips config-
modes.mfmetafont/misc   .mf -
pdftexconfig.textex/generic/config  .tex-
fmtutil.cnf web2c   web2c files -
mktex.cnf   web2c   web2c files -
updmap.cfg  web2c   web2c files -
XDvixdviother text filesxdvi
-
I assumed a path problem, and
I type the following in cygwin.bat file.
set TEXMFCNF='/usr/share/texmf/web2c'
But It does not works.
Is it a problem of configuration or installation of tetex?
I attached output of cygcheck -svr
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Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Sun Feb 13 21:23:15 2005
Windows XP Professional Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Path:   e:\bin\
e:\ybkim\bin\
C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
C:\cygwin\bin
C:\cygwin\bin
C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin
c:\Program Files\ESTsoft\ALZip\
c:\Program Files\ESTsoft\ALZip\
Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (nontsec)
UID: 1003(ybkim) GID: 513(¾øÀ½)
513(¾øÀ½)
Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (ntsec)
UID: 1003(ybkim)GID: 513(¾øÀ½)
0(root) 513(¾øÀ½)   544(Administrators) 545(Users)
SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\system32
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS
CYGWIN = `'nontsec tty''
HOME = `C:\cygwin\home\ybkim'
MAKE_MODE = `unix'
PWD = `/home/ybkim'
USER = `ybkim'
ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users'
APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\ybkim\Application Data'
CLIENTNAME = `Console'
COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files'
COMPUTERNAME = `BLUEDAWN'
COMSPEC = `C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe'
CVS_RSH = `/bin/ssh'
FP_NO_HOST_CHECK = `NO'
HOMEDRIVE = `C:'
HOMEPATH = `\Documents and Settings\ybkim'
HOSTNAME = `bluedawn'
INFOPATH = 
`/usr/local/info:/usr/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/autotool/devel/info:/usr/autotool/stable/info:'
LOGONSERVER = `\\BLUEDAWN'
MANPATH = `/usr/local/man:/usr/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/autotool/devel/man:'
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1'
OLDPWD = `/usr/bin'
OS = `Windows_NT'
PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH'
PRINTER = `'
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86'
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 15 Model 1 Stepping 2, GenuineIntel'
PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `15'
PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0102'
PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files'
PROMPT = `$P$G'
PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\]
$ '
SESSIONNAME = `Console'
SHLVL = `1'
SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:'
SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINDOWS'
TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\ybkim\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TERM = `cygwin'
TEXMFCNF = `/usr/share/texmf/web2c/'
TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\ybkim\LOCALS~1\Temp'
USERDOMAIN = `BLUEDAWN'
USERNAME = `ybkim'
USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\ybkim'
WINDIR = `C:\WINDOWS'
_ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck'
POSIXLY_CORRECT = `1'

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
 (default) = `/cygdrive'
 cygdrive flags = 0x0022
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/
 (default) = `C:\cygwin'
 flags = 0x000a
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/c
 (default) = `c:'
 flags = 0x000a
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/d
 (default) = `d:'
 flags = 0x000a
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/e
 (default) = `e:'
 flags = 0x000a
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mount

RE: Tetex installation problem on cygwin

[Dave Korn]

> -Original Message-
> From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Kim Youngbae
> Sent: 15 February 2005 13:11

> Recently I set up cygwin on XPpro SP2 with setup.exe (version 
> 2.457.2.2)
> including tetex package. After installation, I started tetex 
> but it has been stopped with following message:

> kpathsea: Running mktexfmt tex.fmt
> tcfmgr: no info for file `fmtutil.cnf' in map 
> `/usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr.map'.
> fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found. 
> I can't find the format file `tex.fmt'! 

> Is it a problem of configuration or installation of tetex?

  Possibly a perms problem on the web2c files.  See if this helps:

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-03/msg00454.html

cheers, 
  DaveK
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RE: mkfs.jffs2 for Windows

[Dave Korn]

> -Original Message-
> From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Brandon S Johnson
> Sent: 14 February 2005 21:31

> I have been searching the mailing lists and the web for a version of 
> mkfs.jffs2 that will run on Windows.  I do not believe one is available

  Correct.  Cygwin relies entirely on the underlying 'doze OS for file-system
support, device drivers, and so on.  Since there is no 'doze support for jffs2,
there is no way to format and mount such a filesystem under cygwin.

  http://cygwin.com/acronyms#PTC, of course ;-)

> as the version available at 
> http://cygwin.mirrors.pair.com/jffs2/mkfs.jffs2  appears to 
> be a Linux executable.  

  That's because ttere are several projects mirrored there.  If you look at the
top level directory listing at http://www.cygwin.mirrors.pair.com/, you'll see
that it has a copy of the entire sourceware.org directory tree.  Only stuff
under the cygwin subdirectory is cygwin related; the stuff under jffs2 is indeed
Linux-targeted.


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RE: insensitive case problem in latest cygwin

[Dave Korn]

> -Original Message-
> From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski
> Sent: 14 February 2005 21:37

> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Mark Paulus wrote:
> 

> > My understanding of Windows implementation of Filesystems
> > is that they MIGHT preserve case, but they are not Case
> > sensitive.  Which is apparently what lead to the whole thing
> > about creating managed filesystems, which not only preserve
> > case, but are also Case Sensitive (as opposed to case
> > sensitive).  I would be really shocked if your mv AAA aaa worked
> > on an unmanaged filesystem, and if it did, could you verify what
> > kind of filesystem you are working on?
> 
> I hope you're asking the original poster, as I've never 
> claimed that "mv
> AAA aaa" worked for me (quite the opposite, in fact).
>   Igor


  Rather than get into purely theoretical arguments, I prefer to get empirical:


C:\Documents and Settings\dk\test>dir
 Volume in drive C has no label.
 Volume Serial Number is 942E-907E

 Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\dk\test

15/02/2005  10:28  .
15/02/2005  10:28  ..
15/02/2005  10:28 0 aaa
   1 File(s)  0 bytes
   2 Dir(s)  71,941,922,816 bytes free

C:\Documents and Settings\dk\test>ren aaa AAA

C:\Documents and Settings\dk\test>dir
 Volume in drive C has no label.
 Volume Serial Number is 942E-907E

 Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\dk\test

15/02/2005  10:28  .
15/02/2005  10:28  ..
15/02/2005  10:28 0 AAA
   1 File(s)  0 bytes
   2 Dir(s)  71,941,922,816 bytes free

C:\Documents and Settings\dk\test>move AAA aaa

C:\Documents and Settings\dk\test>dir
 Volume in drive C has no label.
 Volume Serial Number is 942E-907E

 Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\dk\test

15/02/2005  10:28  .
15/02/2005  10:28  ..
15/02/2005  10:28 0 aaa
   1 File(s)  0 bytes
   2 Dir(s)  71,941,922,816 bytes free

C:\Documents and Settings\dk\test>
C:\Documents and Settings\dk\test>bash
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /win/c/Documents and Settings/dk/test> ls
aaa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /win/c/Documents and Settings/dk/test> mv aaa AAA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /win/c/Documents and Settings/dk/test> ls
AAA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /win/c/Documents and Settings/dk/test> mv AAA aaa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /win/c/Documents and Settings/dk/test> ls
aaa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /win/c/Documents and Settings/dk/test> uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-5.1 mace 1.5.13(0.116/4/2) 2004-12-01 10:15 i686 unknown unknown
Cygwin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /win/c/Documents and Settings/dk/test>


  That's NTFS, BTW, but it seems fine under both cygwin and DOS to me.  The only
thing I couldn't get to work was "copy AAA aaa" or "cp AAA aaa"; that didn't
work under either.

cheers, 
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Re: "drive j not mapped"

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:54:10AM -, Christopher Gardner wrote:
>just downloaded cygwin, click on desktop icon, and ***drive j not
>mapped*** appears on screen, click a button and hey presto, it closes
>down.  what is going on?

That's just the drive that we use for thought process monitoring as part
of cygwin's continued efforts to provide feedback for homeland security.
Don't worry you'll be forgetting that this error ever existed as soon as
you download the next version of cygwin.

cgf

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cygwin telnet/ftp?

[Mike]

>From bash typing 'telnet' I get windows' telnet.
Is there a telnet specifically for cygwin?

Mike

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RE: cygwin telnet/ftp?

[Dave Korn]

> -Original Message-
> From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: 15 February 2005 16:47

> From bash typing 'telnet' I get windows' telnet.
> Is there a telnet specifically for cygwin?

Yes.


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Re: cygwin telnet/ftp?

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Mike wrote:

> From bash typing 'telnet' I get windows' telnet.
> Is there a telnet specifically for cygwin?

.
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RE: cygwin telnet/ftp?

[Reid Thompson]

Dave Korn wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Mike
>> Sent: 15 February 2005 16:47
> 
>> From bash typing 'telnet' I get windows' telnet.
>> Is there a telnet specifically for cygwin?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> 
> cheers,
>   DaveK
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Re: cygwin telnet/ftp?

[Mike]

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Igor Pechtchanski might have said:

> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Mike wrote:
> 
> > From bash typing 'telnet' I get windows' telnet.
> > Is there a telnet specifically for cygwin?
> 
> .
>   Igor

Thanks, that helped.
Now, currently the users have a telnet client called
'Reflections' that supports 'dynamic' fonts controlled
from the home-grown, internal application. On some screens
the fonts are large because there is not much data displayed.
On other screens the fonts are small due to lots of data
displayed.

Is there some application already within cygwin that would
support this dynamic font thing?

Mike

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Re: cygwin telnet/ftp?

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:01:29AM -0600, Mike wrote:
>On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Igor Pechtchanski might have said:
>
>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Mike wrote:
>> 
>> > From bash typing 'telnet' I get windows' telnet.
>> > Is there a telnet specifically for cygwin?
>> 
>> .
>>  Igor
>
>Thanks, that helped.
>Now, currently the users have a telnet client called
>'Reflections' that supports 'dynamic' fonts controlled
>from the home-grown, internal application. On some screens
>the fonts are large because there is not much data displayed.
>On other screens the fonts are small due to lots of data
>displayed.
>
>Is there some application already within cygwin that would
>support this dynamic font thing?

Maybe.

cgf

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RE: cygwin telnet/ftp?

[Dave Korn]

> -Original Message-
> From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: 15 February 2005 17:13

> On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:01:29AM -0600, Mike wrote:
> >On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Igor Pechtchanski might have said:
> >
> >> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Mike wrote:
> >> 
> >> > From bash typing 'telnet' I get windows' telnet.
> >> > Is there a telnet specifically for cygwin?
> >> 
> >> .
> >>Igor
> >
> >Thanks, that helped.
> >Now, currently the users have a telnet client called
> >'Reflections' that supports 'dynamic' fonts controlled
> >from the home-grown, internal application. On some screens
> >the fonts are large because there is not much data displayed.
> >On other screens the fonts are small due to lots of data
> >displayed.
> >
> >Is there some application already within cygwin that would
> >support this dynamic font thing?
> 
> Maybe.
> 
> cgf
 

But then again, maybe not.

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kerberos

[Kevin Van Workum]

There is a site that I need to access via kerberos. Has anyone built the 
kerberos clients on cygwin? I have a windows version of kinit, which lets 
me get a ticket. I can then use putty's ssh to login. I'd like to use the 
cygwin OpenSSH to do this. If I try, I get:

debug1: Authentications that can continue: external-keyx,gssapi-with-mic
debug1: No more authentication methods to try.
Permission denied (external-keyx,gssapi-with-mic).
Maybe there are some environment stuff that OpenSSH needs to use my token? 
I'm new to kerberos, so I don't know what external-keyx and 
gssapi-with-mic are. Am I stuck using Putty?

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Re: "drive j not mapped"

[Larry Hall]

At 10:07 AM 2/15/2005, you wrote:
>On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:54:10AM -, Christopher Gardner wrote:
>>just downloaded cygwin, click on desktop icon, and ***drive j not
>>mapped*** appears on screen, click a button and hey presto, it closes
>>down.  what is going on?
>
>That's just the drive that we use for thought process monitoring as part
>of cygwin's continued efforts to provide feedback for homeland security.
>Don't worry you'll be forgetting that this error ever existed as soon as
>you download the next version of cygwin.


If you haven't already forgotten about this error, you might want to consider 
reading the problem reporting guidelines:


>Problem reports:   http://cygwin.com/problems.html
 



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problem with 20050211 snapshot and keychain

[David Rothenberger]

8.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/10 1:33
  156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/24 22:29
  175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/8 22:03
  216k 2004/10/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses-8.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygncurses-8.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/10 1:25
  226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/24 22:17
  202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/8 22:03
  224k 2003/08/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses7.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygncurses7.dll" v0.0 ts=2003/8/9 2:24
   49k 2004/08/02 C:\cygwin\bin\cygogrove-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygogrove-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/8/2 8:41
 1706k 2004/08/02 C:\cygwin\bin\cygosp-4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygosp-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/8/2 7:51
  326k 2004/08/02 C:\cygwin\bin\cygospgrove-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygospgrove-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/8/2 9:07
 1922k 2004/08/02 C:\cygwin\bin\cygostyle-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygostyle-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/8/2 9:07
   13k 2004/10/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel-8.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygpanel-8.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/10 1:32
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1.0-1 ping problem (nt, 2000, xp and server 2003

[Jason FU]

Hi there,

I'm noticing this summer, that whenever I try to ping cygwin, 

$ ping www^M
PING www.hgcbroadband.com (210.0.255.160): 56 data bytes^M
sendto: Operation not permitted^M
ping: wrote www.hgcbroadband.com 64 chars, ret=-1^M
ping: recvfrom: Invalid argument^M
ping: recvfrom: Invalid argument^M
ping: recvfrom: Invalid argument^M
ping: recvfrom: Invalid argument^M
ping: recvfrom: Invalid argument^M
ping: recvfrom: Invalid argument^M
ping: recvfrom: Invalid argument^M
ping: recvfrom: Invalid argument^M
ping: recvfrom: Invalid argument^M
ping: recvfrom: Invalid argument^M
ping: recvfrom: Invalid argument^M
ping: recvfrom: Invalid argument^M
ping: recvfrom: Invalid argument^M


Could this be a problem with 1.0-1 ping utility?"


Regards,

Jason FU



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setup package format v. rpm, reasoning?

[Linda W]

I can imagine during the early development of cygwin, the rpm
package types were rather "unsupportable" -- especially on a
"first install", since no unix shell or coreutils are available.
However, after the basic support is installed, what was the reasoning
for keeping packages in YAPM (YetAnotherPackageManager).
It seems even a bit more surprising considering Cygwin's early
roots coming from a RedHat...
Why is the current setup.exe "format" still the preferred format?
Would it be beneficial to start having the packages moved toward
rpm format?  It would be useful, at times, to do the equivalent
of an "rpm -qf ", or "rpm -qi" for info, etc...Yes,
one can continue to reinvent the wheel by writing utils that parse
file lists in /etc/setup, but it seems that would be 'reinventing'
the wheel for no great purpose...
So I guess I'm curious why Cygwin uses YAPM since RPM has been
ported?  I'm not looking for any religious debates -- just
technical/engineering reasons why a different package.  I'm not
"sold" on the rpm package manager, just wondering why the need
for creating another format? 

It's weird -- I tried installing an RPM, and among files that
were listed as 'missing' were /bin/rm, /bin/sh, /usr/bin/perl
and libc -- I can see RPM not knowing about the libc package
name, but the filenames?  I know they're installed, so what's
the scoop?
Thanks,
-linda
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Re: setup package format v. rpm, reasoning?

[Larry Hall]

At 07:36 PM 2/15/2005, you wrote:
>I can imagine during the early development of cygwin, the rpm
>package types were rather "unsupportable" -- especially on a
>"first install", since no unix shell or coreutils are available.
>
>However, after the basic support is installed, what was the reasoning
>for keeping packages in YAPM (YetAnotherPackageManager).
>
>It seems even a bit more surprising considering Cygwin's early
>roots coming from a RedHat...
>
>Why is the current setup.exe "format" still the preferred format?
>Would it be beneficial to start having the packages moved toward
>rpm format?  It would be useful, at times, to do the equivalent
>of an "rpm -qf ", or "rpm -qi" for info, etc...Yes,
>one can continue to reinvent the wheel by writing utils that parse
>file lists in /etc/setup, but it seems that would be 'reinventing'
>the wheel for no great purpose...
>
>So I guess I'm curious why Cygwin uses YAPM since RPM has been
>ported?  I'm not looking for any religious debates -- just
>technical/engineering reasons why a different package.  I'm not
>"sold" on the rpm package manager, just wondering why the need
>for creating another format? 
>It's weird -- I tried installing an RPM, and among files that
>were listed as 'missing' were /bin/rm, /bin/sh, /usr/bin/perl
>and libc -- I can see RPM not knowing about the libc package
>name, but the filenames?  I know they're installed, so what's
>the scoop?


There's been plenty of discussion of this so if you're interested in the
details, see the email archives.  In particular, take a look at a recent
thread (within the last couple of months) on the cygwin-apps list 
discussing setup alternatives and RPM.  I think that thread in particular
provides many of the answers you're looking for.


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Re: setup package format v. rpm, reasoning?

[Peter Rehley]

On Feb 15, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Linda W wrote:
I can imagine during the early development of cygwin, the rpm
package types were rather "unsupportable" -- especially on a
"first install", since no unix shell or coreutils are available.
However, after the basic support is installed, what was the reasoning
for keeping packages in YAPM (YetAnotherPackageManager).
It seems even a bit more surprising considering Cygwin's early
roots coming from a RedHat...
Why is the current setup.exe "format" still the preferred format?
Would it be beneficial to start having the packages moved toward
rpm format?  It would be useful, at times, to do the equivalent
of an "rpm -qf ", or "rpm -qi" for info, etc...Yes,
one can continue to reinvent the wheel by writing utils that parse
file lists in /etc/setup, but it seems that would be 'reinventing'
the wheel for no great purpose...
So I guess I'm curious why Cygwin uses YAPM since RPM has been
ported?  I'm not looking for any religious debates -- just
technical/engineering reasons why a different package.  I'm not
"sold" on the rpm package manager, just wondering why the need
for creating another format?
It would require a new setup.exe.  The current setup program is a pure 
windows program.  This is needed because it doesn't require using any 
cygwin program or package.  If it used, say for example the 
cygwin1.dll, that dll couldn't be updated because windows won't allow 
files to be changed while they are in use.

So, the new setup would need  create a temporary cygwin environment 
that is totally separate from any already installed cygwin environment. 
 The environment could have rpm and do updates pointing to the cygwin 
environment being updated.

 Or setup would need non-cygwin programs that know how to use rpm.  
Both of these would require rewriting setup from scratch.  Do a search 
for discussions about why setup.exe hasn't been changed.

It's weird -- I tried installing an RPM, and among files that
were listed as 'missing' were /bin/rm, /bin/sh, /usr/bin/perl
and libc -- I can see RPM not knowing about the libc package
name, but the filenames?  I know they're installed, so what's
the scoop?
rpm uses it's database to determine what is there or not.  While 
/bin/sh, etc, may be on the system, they aren't in the rpm database, 
and hence the error.
Thanks,
-linda
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Enjoy,
Peter
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Re: setup package format v. rpm, reasoning?

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 04:36:29PM -0800, Linda W wrote:
>I can imagine during the early development of cygwin, the rpm
>package types were rather "unsupportable" -- especially on a
>"first install", since no unix shell or coreutils are available.
>
>However, after the basic support is installed, what was the reasoning
>for keeping packages in YAPM (YetAnotherPackageManager).
>
>It seems even a bit more surprising considering Cygwin's early
>roots coming from a RedHat...

Cygwin's early roots did not come from Red Hat.  They came from
Cygnus.  That's what the "Cyg" stands for.

cgf

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Re: problem with 20050211 snapshot and keychain

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 02:02:23PM -0800, David Rothenberger wrote:
>I'm having a problem with the 20050211 snapshot (well, really with CVS
>head built today, but that's just the snapshot plus a few whitespace
>changes). When I run
>
>% keychain ~/.ssh/id_dsa
>
>I get
>
>KeyChain 2.0.3; http://www.gentoo.org/projects/keychain
>  Copyright 2002 Gentoo Technologies, Inc.; Distributed under the GPL
>  * Found existing ssh-agent at PID 3644
>  * 1 more keys to add...
>Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
>  * Problem adding key...
>  * 1 more keys to add...
>Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
>  * Problem adding key...
>  * 1 more keys to add...
>Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
>  * Problem adding key...
>
>This is working fine with the 20050131 snapshot.

I could duplicate this.  It is fixed in the latest snapshot.

Thanks,
cgf

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Re: "drive j not mapped"

[Warren Young]

Christopher Faylor wrote:
Don't worry you'll be forgetting that this error ever existed as soon as
you download the next version of cygwin.
Oh, man, I thought the cognitive rewriting patch was in the current 
version already.  The boys in the black helicopters^W^WHomeland Security 
office are gonna be pissed.

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Re: "drive j not mapped"

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:18:49PM -0700, Warren Young wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>Don't worry you'll be forgetting that this error ever existed as soon
>>as you download the next version of cygwin.
>
>Oh, man, I thought the cognitive rewriting patch was in the current
>version already.  The boys in the black helicopters^W^WHomeland
>Security office are gonna be pissed.

Actually, not to worry.  I already sent them an advance copy of cygwin
1.5.13.  They don't seem to be all that worried about this problem now.

Btw, I urge everyone to try the latest cygwin snapshot!

cgf

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RE: mkfs.jffs2 for Windows

[Robb, Sam]

> > I have been searching the mailing lists and the web for a 
> version of 
> > mkfs.jffs2 that will run on Windows.  I do not believe one 
> is available
> 
>   Correct.  Cygwin relies entirely on the underlying 'doze OS 
> for file-system
> support, device drivers, and so on.  Since there is no 'doze 
> support for jffs2,
> there is no way to format and mount such a filesystem under cygwin.

For the record: mkfs.jffs2 takes as input a directory and an
option device table file, and turns that directly into a file
containing a jffs2 filesystem.  So, OS support really isn't
required.

Getting mkfs.jffs2 to build & run under Cygwin is not all that
difficult.  I've done it before, and gotten permission from my
employer to package it for Cygwin - what I lack at the moment
is time :-/  Until then, if anyone is interested in helping
push this through as a proper Cygwin package, I'd be happy to
talk to them about it.

-Samrobb

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RE: setup package format v. rpm, reasoning?

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 7:36 PM
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: setup package format v. rpm, reasoning?
> 
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 04:36:29PM -0800, Linda W wrote:
> >I can imagine during the early development of cygwin, the 
> rpm package 
> >types were rather "unsupportable" -- especially on a "first 
> install", 
> >since no unix shell or coreutils are available.
> >
> >However, after the basic support is installed, what was the 
> reasoning 
> >for keeping packages in YAPM (YetAnotherPackageManager).
> >
> >It seems even a bit more surprising considering Cygwin's early roots 
> >coming from a RedHat...
> 
> Cygwin's early roots did not come from Red Hat.  They came 
> from Cygnus.  That's what the "Cyg" stands for.

And here all along I thought it had something to do with cigarettes.

;-)

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