Re: Problems with 14th Dec cygwin1.dll snapshot

[Arash Partow]

not helpful, in the future please be a bit more constructive
with your comments


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Is it me or is the cygwin1.dll becoming more unstable each passing day?

-marcus



Hi Chris,

I've test the lastest snapshot (14th Dec II) with the ThreadTest,
the new problems have been resolved, still the old ones remain.
thanx for the quick fix.
Regards

Arash Partow



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On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:14:32AM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:38:18PM +, Arash Partow wrote:
Latest changes in the cygwin1.dll (14th Dec), are causing even
more problems in the field of signal handling than previous versions.
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-12/msg00574.html There is a new snapshot 
up now which should fix the SEGV problem
that ThreadTest was experiencing after a CTRL-C.

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Bug: -o posix and "cd ."

[Miki Tebeka]

Hello,

---
[10:49] $cd .
[10:50] $set -o posix
[10:50] $cd .
bash: cd: .: No such file or directory
[10:56] $bash --version
GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i686-pc-cygwin)
Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
---

This causes problem in all "configure" scripts since they set "-o posix" if
bash is the shell.

Any more information I need to send?

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Win32::GUI Perl module available for Cygwin and MinGW

[zzapper]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:54:21 -0800, "Rafael Kitover"
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>I've added the Win32::GUI module to libwin32, which allows you to
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>
>Download it here:
>
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/libwin32-exp/

Will this be part of standard CYGWIN?

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enable argument permutation by default for getopt_long() and not getopt() [PATCH] (was Re: getopt() musings)

[David Fritz]

I have moved this discussion to cygwin-patches as it seemed appropriate. 
For reference, the original thread is here: 
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2003-11/msg00865.html

Max Bowsher wrote:


> It does require someone to put in a fair amount of time:
>
> 1) Resolving the uncertainties you mention.
I was hoping someone that has been on the GNU scene longer than I would 
chime in on my assumptions. But open source has its benefits:

I checked the glibc CVS repository. The initial revision of 
/libc/posix/getopt.c 
(http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/libc/posix/getopt.c?rev=1.1&content-type=text/plain&cvsroot=glibc) 
was checked in on 1992-05-12 (11+ years ago).

Argument permutation was enabled by default. The first copyright date in 
the file is 1987. I do not know where to get the older versions. 
Regardless, it would appear that argument permutation has been the 
default for a very long time, if not always.

It would not seem unreasonable to me to conclude that Cygwin's 
getopt_long() is non-standard, if one considers GNU precedent 
'standard'. And since, AFAIK, they invented it, I don't know of any 
other metric by which to judge compliance.

I also checked the NetBSD CVS repository. The initial revision of 
/src/lib/libc/stdlib/getopt_long.c 
(http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/lib/libc/stdlib/getopt_long.c?rev=1.1&content-type=text/plain) 
was checked in on 1999-07-23.

It appears that argument permutation was not supported in the initial 
revision. However, with revision 1.4 
(http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/lib/libc/stdlib/getopt_long.c?rev=1.4&content-type=text/plain) 
on 2000-04-02 the implementation was replaced with the initial version 
of what is now the current implementation. (Also the implementation from 
which Cygwin's is derived.) In this version argument permutation is 
implemented and enabled by default. This leaves an ~8 month time span 
where NetBSD's CVS repository included a version of getopt_long() that 
did not support argument permutation (and was incompatible with it's GNU 
template).

According to the page entitled "The History of the NetBSD Project" 
(http://www.netbsd.org/Misc/history.html), NetBSD 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 were 
released during this time period. I could not find any mention of 
getopt_long() in the change logs for those releases (nor in the logs for 
1.4 and 1.4.3). The change log for NetBSD 1.5 mentions the inclusion of 
the latter version of getopt_long().

libc: add getopt_long(3) from Dieter Baron and Thomas Klausner.
[christos 2402]
Just to be sure, I checked the source archives for 1.4, 1.4.1, 1.4.2 and 
1.4.3; they did not include an implementation of getopt_long(). So I 
don't think the incompatible version of getopt_long() was ever released 
as part of NetBSD.

> 2) Finding out what permutation broke in the first place.

After a review of the mailing list archives, it seems that of primary 
concern were programs that took a shell command as an argument. For example,

$ foo –x bar -y

Where it is intended to pass the option 'x' to foo and the option 'y' to 
bar (which is invoked by foo). With argument permutation, both 'x' and 
'y' would be passed to foo. As if it had been

$ foo –x –y bar

One program specifically mentioned as being broken by argument 
permutation was strace. (I'd link to the messages but many of the 
discussions took place on cygwin-developers and the web-based archives 
for that list are no longer publicly accessible.) It seems strace was 
the impetus for this change, but it was said that the worry was not 
specifically with strace but rather any program that might break because 
of the non-standard behavior. An expressed desire was not to "cause 
people problems or generate unnecessary cygwin email traffic."

I do understand the desire to conform to the relevant standards, even 
without forcing users to define POSIXLY_CORRECT. However, I would note 
that the change itself has caused problems 
(http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2002-06/msg01253.html) and 
generated traffic 
(http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2002-09/msg00165.html, 
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2003-01/msg01742.html).

strace is a program that comes with Cygwin. The current version of 
strace uses getopt_long() and does not explicitly disable argument 
permutation. I attribute this to the fact that strace was changed to use 
getopt_long() instead of getopt() after Cygwin's getopt_long() had been 
neutered. Otherwise this would invalidate my pervious assumption, but I 
do believe that this is an oversight in strace.

This would seem to introduce a new twist: programs that were developed 
with Cygwin's weird version of getopt_long() might break. I have looked 
through the programs in Cygwin's utils subdirectory and it seems that 
ssp is also affected. I have attached a patch for ssp and strace that 
disables argument permutation by specifying a '+' as the first character 
of the short optio

RE: Third-party products that include Cygwin

[Joaquin]

Hi.  In Outlook XP at least, I just select "Reply To All" and it gets
the cygwin list, and I also use the "Reply" to direct correspondence.
Seems to work ok.

As for the business requires Outlook.  Yeah I know.  I did consulting
for one shop, and I was terrified, especially with all the viruses at
the time.  The director there had so many spams.  I tried to get them to
use Mozilla, and they employees there loved it.  But the main IT HQ made
a big fuss about using "non-approved software", which includes
alternatives to M$ software.  Sometimes I think that certification also
means mindlessness...

> I guess I could also suffer from this as I currently work at
> a client that seems pretty intent on enforcing the use of
> Outlook (not sure why but
> whatever).  Since clients come and go, I wouldn't want to
> use'em for my access to this list anyway so I simply keep my
> home machine up all the
> time and ssh/VNC to it.  From this, I can use my work and/or
> personal email accounts and the tools that work for me best.
> Perhaps that's another option for you.  Otherwise, you're
> stuck at the mercy of Outlook and the charity of those on
> this list that might remember what your preferences are.
> I've done so this time.  Can't say that I'll remember to do
> so next time. :-(
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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: pcre-4.5-1

[Ronald Landheer-Cieslak]

New News:
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- version 4.5-1 -
Update to canonical 4.5

- version 4.4-2 -
Move the Cygwin-special README to the proper location

- version 4.4-1 -
Patches applied to 4.3-x were largely integrated into the canonical package.
The rest of the patches (of course) still apply

- version 4.3-4 -
Make doc package FHS compliant

- version 4.3-3 -
Recompile against Cygwin-1.5.0

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Added pcre-config script to pcre-devel package

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Re: I can't initializate the PostgreSQL v 7.4

[Brandon Saxe]

Doesn't the newest version of Postgres use IPC Daemon
2?

Try using the new ipc-daemon2.exe. I think I had a
similar problem myself when upgrading to 7.4

Brandon

--- Manuel Tejada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Yesterday I decided to made an upgrade to PostgreSQL
> 7.4.2.
> After upgrading from internet with the setup.exe I
> followed the normal
> procedure to inicializate the postgre. Observe that
> The initdb failed.
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
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> [1] 935405
> 
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> The files belonging to this database system will be
> owned by user "admin".
> This user must also own the server process.
> 
> The database cluster will be initialized with locale
> C.
> 
> creating directory /usr/share/postgresql/data... ok
> creating directory
> /usr/share/postgresql/data/base... ok
> creating directory
> /usr/share/postgresql/data/global... ok
> creating directory
> /usr/share/postgresql/data/pg_xlog... ok
> creating directory
> /usr/share/postgresql/data/pg_clog... ok
> selecting default max_connections... 10
> selecting default shared_buffers... 50
> creating configuration files... ok
> creating template1 database in
> /usr/share/postgresql/data/base/1... FATAL:
> could not create shared memory segment: Function not
> implemented
> DETAIL:  Failed system call was shmget(key=1,
> size=1081344, 03600).
> 
> initdb: failed
> initdb: removing data directory
> "/usr/share/postgresql/data"
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
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> initdb?
> b) How to fix this?
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> Note.- This is no the first upgrade I made. The
> upgrading from version 7.2
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Win32::GUI Perl module available for cygwin and MinGW

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:21:53AM +, zzapper wrote:
>On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:54:21 -0800, "Rafael Kitover"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I've added the Win32::GUI module to libwin32, which allows you to
>>do...Win32 GUI stuff in Perl.
>>
>>Download it here:
>>
>>http://sourceforge.net/projects/libwin32-exp/
>
>Will this be part of standard CYGWIN?

No.  The subject is misleading since it looks like an offical
announcement.

Unless someone formally submits this as a package, it will not
be in the standard cygwin release.

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Re: Problems with 14th Dec cygwin1.dll snapshot

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:24:13AM +, Arash Partow wrote:
>not helpful, in the future please be a bit more constructive
>with your comments

Don't you feel just a *tad* bit hypocritical here?

http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2003-12/msg00512.html

>On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 06:31:05AM +, Marcus Van Der Beek wrote:
>>Is it me or is the cygwin1.dll becoming more unstable each passing day?

To answer the question: It's you.  You obviously don't understand that
a snapshot is not a release and that things can become unstable during
standard development.

cgf

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Re: enable argument permutation by default for getopt_long() and not getopt() [PATCH] (was Re: getopt() musings)

[David Fritz]

David Fritz wrote:

I have moved this discussion to cygwin-patches as it seemed appropriate. 
Oops. I meant to anyway. Sorry.

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[OT] RE: Third-party products that include Cygwin

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote:

> > From: Larry Hall
> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:23 PM
>
> > At 05:24 PM 12/13/2003, Hannu E K Nevalainen you wrote:
> > >> From: Larry Hall
> > >> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 8:21 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >PLEASE NOTE:
> > >** on a mailing list; please keep replies on that particular list **
>
> > I'm a little confused by the intent of your "note" above.  If this is
> > directed at me, I replied to your message the way I always reply, with
> > "reply all".  That goes to the list.  It also goes to you directly, since
> > you don't set your reply-to header.  If you prefer to get just one copy
> > of any reply (i.e. the one that goes to the list), set your reply-to
> > header to point to the list.  My email client will obey your stated
> > preference automatically.  Of course, if you were directing this comment
> > at someone else, then you can ignore the above.
>
>  The problem is that I do not have the option to set the reply-to header.
> I'm lost in the wasteland of MS software; i.e. I'm running "Outlook 2000"
> and have no other viable options. Asking support personell on the matter
> gives nothing (they know less than I do), scouring the helpfiles and
> documents that I have available gives nothing.
> The above request is all I can do.

Hannu,

I feel your pain, but there seems to be a light at the end of the tunnel.
I have Outlook Express 5 installed on my machine (though I don't use it),
and I've poked around a bit.  Try going to the Tools->Accounts menu from
the main window, and adding a "Mail" account.  Once you add it, select it
and click on "Properties".  One of the options there is the "Reply
address" (which looks like what you want).  HTH anyone who is forced to
use Outaluck^H^H^H^H^Hlook (boy, am I glad I'm not).
Igor
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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Update: lftp 2.6.9-1

[Mark Blackburn]

I have updated the lftp package to 2.6.9-1.

A command line file transfer program. It supports ftp, ftps, http, https,
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histories and more.

Changes:  -Update to newer upstream version (2.6.9)  -Add fix to allow DOS
text files to be used as scripts

To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on the
http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Then,
run setup and answer all of the questions.

To install lftp for the first time, choose "lftp" from the packages list,
in the "Net" category. If you already have lftp installed, the update will
be pre-selected.

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Re: Bug: -o posix and "cd ."

[Larry Hall]

At 03:59 AM 12/15/2003, Miki Tebeka you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>---
>[10:49] $cd .
>[10:50] $set -o posix
>[10:50] $cd .
>bash: cd: .: No such file or directory
>[10:56] $bash --version
>GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i686-pc-cygwin)
>Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>---
>
>This causes problem in all "configure" scripts since they set "-o posix" if
>bash is the shell.


WFM


>Any more information I need to send?


Yep.  See "Problem reports:" below.


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error in distribution ?

[Vitaly Prapirny]

Hi !

Some (all ?) mirrors has bad gcc-mingw-20030911-4 package. 
release/gcc-mingw/md5.sum contains this:
c616cffee0f344c37fd4e045a7a87054  gcc-mingw-20030911-4-src.tar.bz2
c616cffee0f344c37fd4e045a7a87054  gcc-mingw-20030911-4.tar.bz2
Is this (same md5sum) possible ? Also 
release/XFree86/fontconfig/fontconfig-2.2.0-1.tar.bz2 has data integrity 
error.
Can anyone check the distribution please ?

Good luck !

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RE: [OT] RE: Third-party products that include Cygwin

[kevin.lawton]

Sincere commiserations from a fellow forced-to-use-Outlook sufferer. 
Yep; even hopeless-little-amateurish 'Outlook Express' allows you to set your 'reply 
to' addressing as you wish, while those of us tied-in to using the 'professional' 
Outlook are stuck with no choice. 
Even more tiresome is the way it insists on quoting the previous sender's e-mail 
address in the message text - to the delight of spam harvesters everywhere. 
Simply delightful - isn't it ? 
Micro$oft - what would you like to get pissed-off with today.   
   
| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
| Of Igor Pechtchanski
| Sent: 15 December 2003 16:39
| To: Hannu E K Nevalainen
| Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: [OT] RE: Third-party products that include Cygwin
|  
| On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote:
| 
| > > From: Larry Hall
| > > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:23 PM
| >
| > > At 05:24 PM 12/13/2003, Hannu E K Nevalainen you wrote:
| > > >> From: Larry Hall
| > > >> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 8:21 PM
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >PLEASE NOTE:
| > > >** on a mailing list; please keep replies on that 
| particular list **
| >
| > > I'm a little confused by the intent of your "note" above. 
|  If this is
| > > directed at me, I replied to your message the way I 
| always reply, with
| > > "reply all".  That goes to the list.  It also goes to you 
| directly, since
| > > you don't set your reply-to header.  If you prefer to get 
| just one copy
| > > of any reply (i.e. the one that goes to the list), set 
| your reply-to
| > > header to point to the list.  My email client will obey 
| your stated
| > > preference automatically.  Of course, if you were 
| directing this comment
| > > at someone else, then you can ignore the above.
| >
| >  The problem is that I do not have the option to set the 
| reply-to header.
| > I'm lost in the wasteland of MS software; i.e. I'm running 
| "Outlook 2000"
| > and have no other viable options. Asking support personnel 
| on the matter
| > gives nothing (they know less than I do), scouring the helpfiles and
| > documents that I have available gives nothing.
| > The above request is all I can do.
| 
| Hannu,
| 
| I feel your pain, but there seems to be a light at the end of 
| the tunnel.
| I have Outlook Express 5 installed on my machine (though I 
| don't use it),
| and I've poked around a bit.  Try going to the 
| Tools->Accounts menu from
| the main window, and adding a "Mail" account.  Once you add 
| it, select it
| and click on "Properties".  One of the options there is the "Reply
| address" (which looks like what you want).  HTH anyone who is 
| forced to
| use Outaluck^H^H^H^H^Hlook (boy, am I glad I'm not).
|   Igor
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RE: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

[SMore]

I installed the latest snapshot cygwin1-20031214.dll.bz2:

$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-5.0 test 1.5.6s(0.107/3/2) 20031214 23:18:27 i686 unknown unknown
Cygwin

I am still seeing a stackdump from rsync.

Does the output from this strace help identify the problem 

   65 4550309 [main] rsync 2176 reset_signal_arrived: reset signal_arrived
   64 4550373 [main] rsync 2176 set_signal_mask: old mask = 0, new mask =
8
   63 4550436 [main] rsync 2176 set_signal_mask: not calling
sig_dispatch_pending
   94 4550530 [main] rsync 2176 wait4: calling proc_subproc, pid -1, options
1
   63 4550593 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: args: 4, 1628381128
   62 4550655 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: wval->pid -1, wval->options 1
   64 4550719 [main] rsync 2176 checkstate: nchildren 0, nzombies 1
   63 4550782 [main] rsync 2176 stopped_or_terminated: considering pid 3088
   75 4550857 [main] rsync 2176 remove_zombie: removing 0, pid 3088,
nzombies 1
  109 4550966 [main] rsync 2176 checkstate: returning 1
   63 4551029 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: released waiting thread
   62 4551091 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: finished processing
terminated/stopped child
   63 4551154 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: returning 1
   66 4551220 [main] rsync 2176 wait4: 0 = WaitForSingleObject (...)
   65 4551285 [main] rsync 2176 wait4: intpid -1, status 0x22F934, w->status
0, options 1, res 3088
   66 4551351 [main] rsync 2176 wait4: calling proc_subproc, pid -1, options
1
   62 4551413 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: args: 4, 1628381128
   71 4551484 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: wval->pid -1, wval->options 1
   63 4551547 [main] rsync 2176 checkstate: nchildren 0, nzombies 0
   65 4551612 [main] rsync 2176 checkstate: checking alive children
   62 4551674 [main] rsync 2176 checkstate: returning 0
   61 4551735 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: waiting thread found no
children
   63 4551798 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: finished processing
terminated/stopped child
   63 4551861 [main] rsync 2176 proc_subproc: returning 1
   62 4551923 [main] rsync 2176 wait4: intpid -1, status 0x22F934, w->status
0, options 1, res -1
   66 4551989 [main] rsync 2176 wait4: *** errno = 10
   62 4552051 [main] rsync 2176 set_signal_mask: old mask = 8, new mask
= 0
   62 4552113 [main] rsync 2176 set_signal_mask: not calling
sig_dispatch_pending
  114 4552227 [main] rsync 2176 handle_exceptions: In cygwin_except_handler
exc 0xC005 at 0x610865E7 sp 0x22F950
   66 4552293 [main] rsync 2176 handle_exceptions: In cygwin_except_handler
sig = 11 at 0x610865E7
   66 4552359 [main] rsync 2176 handle_exceptions: In cygwin_except_handler
calling 0x0
   72 4552431 [main] rsync 2176 handle_exceptions: Exception:
STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION
 1197 4553628 [main] rsync 2176 try_to_debug: debugger_command ''
  598 4554226 [main] rsync 2176 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to
rsync.exe.stackdump


If not, what else can I do to help identify what the problem is ?

-Steve More

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Faylor
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2


On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 04:25:26PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Here is the output you requested.

Ok.  Nothing too interesting there.  Oh well.

I uploaded a new snapshot that fixed the core dump that *I* was seeing.
It might be interesting to try, just for yucks although I haven't done
anything to fix a non-CYGWIN=tty case, AFAIK.

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Re: [OT] RE: Third-party products that include cygwin

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:39:25AM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>I feel your pain, but there seems to be a light at the end of the tunnel.
>I have Outlook Express 5 installed on my machine (though I don't use it),
>and I've poked around a bit.  Try going to the Tools->Accounts menu from
>the main window, and adding a "Mail" account.  Once you add it, select it
>and click on "Properties".  One of the options there is the "Reply
>address" (which looks like what you want).  HTH anyone who is forced to
>use Outaluck^H^H^H^H^Hlook (boy, am I glad I'm not).

I was thinking about adding a cygwin-set-reply-to opt-in subscription list
for people (like me) who always want the reply-to set to the mailing list.
It would require a fair amount of rework of the spam blocking software but
it is doable.

Would that be a useful feature?

cgf

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Re: Fixing Home and Passwd

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Joaquin wrote:

> Hi,
>
> After figuring out why my WinXP Pro install blows up mysteriously, I was
> thinking of creating some scripts to patch the scenario when accounts
> have spaces in them.
>
> I was going to make fixpasswd and fixhome scripts, which essentially
> take the first character and munge it with the first 7 chars of the
> preceeding name, and lower case it all.  Thus, "Howard Johnson" would
> become "hjohnson".
>
> I am wondering though, what else needs to be fixed up?
>  - Joaquin

Why not simply replace all spaces in the username and the home directory
with underscores?  Beware that HOME may be set to "Documents and
Settings/User name"...
Igor
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Re: I can't initializate the PostgreSQL v 7.4

[Jason Tishler]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 06:31:37AM -0800, Brandon Saxe wrote:
> Doesn't the newest version of Postgres use IPC Daemon 2?

Yes, as clearly indicated in the README:

http://www.tishler.net/jason/software/postgresql/postgresql-7.4.README

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Re: [OT] RE: Third-party products that include cygwin

[Ronald Landheer-Cieslak]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:22:47PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:39:25AM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> >I feel your pain, but there seems to be a light at the end of the tunnel.
> >I have Outlook Express 5 installed on my machine (though I don't use it),
> >and I've poked around a bit.  Try going to the Tools->Accounts menu from
> >the main window, and adding a "Mail" account.  Once you add it, select it
> >and click on "Properties".  One of the options there is the "Reply
> >address" (which looks like what you want).  HTH anyone who is forced to
> >use Outaluck^H^H^H^H^Hlook (boy, am I glad I'm not).
> 
> I was thinking about adding a cygwin-set-reply-to opt-in subscription list
> for people (like me) who always want the reply-to set to the mailing list.
> It would require a fair amount of rework of the spam blocking software but
> it is doable.
> 
> Would that be a useful feature?
YES, that would definitely by a useful feature :)

rlc

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Re: error in distribution ?

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:16:21PM +0200, Vitaly Prapirny wrote:
>Some (all ?) mirrors has bad gcc-mingw-20030911-4 package. 
>release/gcc-mingw/md5.sum contains this:
>c616cffee0f344c37fd4e045a7a87054  gcc-mingw-20030911-4-src.tar.bz2
>c616cffee0f344c37fd4e045a7a87054  gcc-mingw-20030911-4.tar.bz2

Did you look at the files?  This is fine.

>Is this (same md5sum) possible ? Also 
>release/XFree86/fontconfig/fontconfig-2.2.0-1.tar.bz2 has data integrity 
>error.

This file is fine on the master sourceware.org site.

cgf

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Re: Third-party products that include cygwin

[Steven Elliot Harris]

Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I think this is how the BitKeeper folks do it, too, FWIW.

For the record, I'm pretty sure they've recently decided to stop doing
this, per this message¹ from Larry McVoy. Note the third paragraph
regarding "future directions." It sounds like they'll play nice
alongside Cygwin, but not be built on top of it.

The last time I tried to install BitKeeper (around October 2003), it
trashed my Cygwin mounts even though I told the installer not to touch
my Cygwin setup, and even then BitKeeper wouldn't run without
crashing. Apparently it wasn't (re)built to handle Cygwin
1.5.x. Sadly, as a result, I've been without BitKeeper on my new
computer.


Footnotes: 
¹ http://www.bitmover.com/pipermail/bitkeeper-users/2003-October/001025.html

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RE: [OT] RE: Third-party products that include cygwin

[Al Slater]

> 
> I was thinking about adding a cygwin-set-reply-to opt-in 
> subscription list for people (like me) who always want the 
> reply-to set to the mailing list. It would require a fair 
> amount of rework of the spam blocking software but it is doable.
> 
> Would that be a useful feature?

This is yes vote.

Al


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Re: Update: lftp 2.6.9-1

[Marc Bejarano]

At 12:45 12/15/2003, Mark Blackburn wrote:
>I have updated the lftp package to 2.6.9-1.
bad timing :(  2.6.10 was just released upstream which has an important 
security fix.

http://www.slackware.com/security/viewer.php?l=slackware-security&y=2003&m=slackware-security.364571

marc

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Re: rxvt and bold directory entries

[Thorsten Kampe]

* Brandon Saxe (2003-12-12 16:59 +0100)
> I'm using rxvt and do directory listings with the
> --color=auto option.

> Certain files are not only colored, but are bold as
> well. How do I turn off the bolding of certain
> listings? I only want colors. The bold makes certain
> entries difficult to read.

man rxvt


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Re: error in distribution ?

[Vitaly Prapirny]

>>Some (all ?) mirrors has bad gcc-mingw-20030911-4 package.
>>release/gcc-mingw/md5.sum contains this:
>>c616cffee0f344c37fd4e045a7a87054  gcc-mingw-20030911-4-src.tar.bz2
>>c616cffee0f344c37fd4e045a7a87054  gcc-mingw-20030911-4.tar.bz2
>Did you look at the files?  This is fine.
Yes but this files contains nothing so i was confused.

>>Is this (same md5sum) possible ? Also
>>release/XFree86/fontconfig/fontconfig-2.2.0-1.tar.bz2 has data integrity
>>error.
>This file is fine on the master sourceware.org site.
Sure, my error, sorry.

Thank you for immediate response !

Good luck !

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Symbolic Links

[Dan Adams]

Hi, I have been using the symbolic links feature of cygwin to link from one
folder to another in my system. I know that is not a big beneficial use of
cygwin, but it is one that adds to the benefit of cygwin. I also use cygwin
for other stuff.

I was wondering, does anyone know is something specific is needed to be able
to link from one folder to another, for example I am linking from C:\My
Documents to D:\Finance in a link file called other. Honestly this works in
the file manager part of windows explorer, one desire I have ot this would
be to be able to use this in Microsoft Excel by clicking on the "My
Documents" link on the left side and then by opening the folder called
"other" in the file list. The only problem with this is that by using the
command "ln -s "D:\Finance" other" does not actually let the folder show up
in excel. Is this possible, or is this maybe a future feature that will be
implemented? If it is in the feature, I know I would appreciate the ability.

Dan Adams - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.infochi.com




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CreateFileMapping, create global objects, and multiple users

[Benn Schreiber]

I'm running Win2003 server and found an interesting anomaly with the 'create
global objects' right workaround. I have it enabled for administrator
(obviously), and my account. When I am logged into both admin and my
account, and both create rxvt windows, the first one created gets hung, and
doing anything to it results in the window disappearing.

Is there a naming conflict or something, such that there can only be one
Cygwin user on a Win2003 server?

Thanks

Benn


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Re: Symbolic Links

[Dan Adams]

Part of the reason I am interested in this, I guess I forgot to say is to be
able to have both Windows and Cygwin recognize the links. If I use the
windows shortcut creation, cygwin doesn't recognize it. If I use the cygwin
thing below, excel doesn't recognize it, but windows does.

Dan

"Dan Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi, I have been using the symbolic links feature of cygwin to link from
one
> folder to another in my system. I know that is not a big beneficial use of
> cygwin, but it is one that adds to the benefit of cygwin. I also use
cygwin
> for other stuff.
>
> I was wondering, does anyone know is something specific is needed to be
able
> to link from one folder to another, for example I am linking from C:\My
> Documents to D:\Finance in a link file called other. Honestly this works
in
> the file manager part of windows explorer, one desire I have ot this would
> be to be able to use this in Microsoft Excel by clicking on the "My
> Documents" link on the left side and then by opening the folder called
> "other" in the file list. The only problem with this is that by using the
> command "ln -s "D:\Finance" other" does not actually let the folder show
up
> in excel. Is this possible, or is this maybe a future feature that will be
> implemented? If it is in the feature, I know I would appreciate the
ability.
>
> Dan Adams - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.infochi.com
>
>
>
>




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RE: Symbolic Links

[Paul Kraus]

I have not tested this but per the docs on cygwin site the new version
does follow windows shortcut link files.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Adams
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Symbolic Links
> 
> 
> Part of the reason I am interested in this, I guess I forgot 
> to say is to be able to have both Windows and Cygwin 
> recognize the links. If I use the windows shortcut creation, 
> cygwin doesn't recognize it. If I use the cygwin thing below, 
> excel doesn't recognize it, but windows does.
> 
> Dan
> 
> "Dan Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Hi, I have been using the symbolic links feature of cygwin to link 
> > from
> one
> > folder to another in my system. I know that is not a big beneficial 
> > use of cygwin, but it is one that adds to the benefit of cygwin. I 
> > also use
> cygwin
> > for other stuff.
> >
> > I was wondering, does anyone know is something specific is 
> needed to 
> > be
> able
> > to link from one folder to another, for example I am linking from 
> > C:\My Documents to D:\Finance in a link file called other. Honestly 
> > this works
> in
> > the file manager part of windows explorer, one desire I 
> have ot this 
> > would be to be able to use this in Microsoft Excel by 
> clicking on the 
> > "My Documents" link on the left side and then by opening the folder 
> > called "other" in the file list. The only problem with this 
> is that by 
> > using the command "ln -s "D:\Finance" other" does not 
> actually let the 
> > folder show
> up
> > in excel. Is this possible, or is this maybe a future feature that 
> > will be implemented? If it is in the feature, I know I would 
> > appreciate the
> ability.
> >
> > Dan Adams - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.infochi.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Slightly OT] Re: Cygwin crashed by emacs???

[Shankar Unni]

Steven J. Zeil wrote:

I've tried to modify the function in files.el to expand the list of
illegal characters. Unfortunately, files.el is one of the
"pre-compiled" Lisp files - the only way to change it is, AFAIK, to
recompile emacs.
Not true. There are several ways you can deal with this:

* Load your modified file explicitly in your .emacs. This will override 
the built-in copy.  You can even byte-compile the modified copy and load 
*that* instead.
* You can even just redefine "file-truecopy()" in your .emacs to 
override the built-in definition of that one function (this is a giant 
hairball of a function, though, so this may not be good in the long run).

If you're doing the fix, instead of just hacking the list of illegal 
characters embedded in the body of the function, it would be nice to 
break out the list regular expression into a defvar outside the body, so 
that it can be setq'ed by anyone wanting to twiddle the chars. Better 
still, make it a configurable variable using defcustom..

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Re: Mozilla Firebird & cygwin

[Shankar Unni]

Doug Jenkinson wrote:

I saw this in a comment about the latest build of Mozilla, 1.6 beta that 
is, and tried on Firebird.  If you open up a window/tab/whatever and 
goto "about:buildconfig", cygwin is mentioned!
Yeah, but the actual compiler is Visual C++ 6.x. (cl 12.00.8804). The 
cygwin wrapper is only because they use cygwin *tools* for their build 
environment..

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Re: Symbolic Links

[Dan Adams]

When I try to use a windows shortcut file in cygwin it doesn't seem to work.
In the example that I tried, misc.lnk is the name of the shortcut from
windows.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/Finance>ls
Auto.xlsCopy of Daniel Adams.mny  Financial Plan.doc  Insurance
Inventory.doc  Stock Stats.xls  stock.xls
Bills.xls   Daniel Adams.mny  Fraud Hotline 1800.doc  Misc.lnk
other
Checks.xls  Distribution.xls  History.xls Paychecks.xls
personal.mdb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/Finance>cd Misc.lnk
Misc.lnk: Not a directory.

That is the attempt I did, with the output. Do I need to do something
specific to get this to work?

Dan

"Paul Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I have not tested this but per the docs on cygwin site the new version
> does follow windows shortcut link files.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Adams
> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:39 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Symbolic Links
> >
> >
> > Part of the reason I am interested in this, I guess I forgot
> > to say is to be able to have both Windows and Cygwin
> > recognize the links. If I use the windows shortcut creation,
> > cygwin doesn't recognize it. If I use the cygwin thing below,
> > excel doesn't recognize it, but windows does.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > "Dan Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Hi, I have been using the symbolic links feature of cygwin to link
> > > from
> > one
> > > folder to another in my system. I know that is not a big beneficial
> > > use of cygwin, but it is one that adds to the benefit of cygwin. I
> > > also use
> > cygwin
> > > for other stuff.
> > >
> > > I was wondering, does anyone know is something specific is
> > needed to
> > > be
> > able
> > > to link from one folder to another, for example I am linking from
> > > C:\My Documents to D:\Finance in a link file called other. Honestly
> > > this works
> > in
> > > the file manager part of windows explorer, one desire I
> > have ot this
> > > would be to be able to use this in Microsoft Excel by
> > clicking on the
> > > "My Documents" link on the left side and then by opening the folder
> > > called "other" in the file list. The only problem with this
> > is that by
> > > using the command "ln -s "D:\Finance" other" does not
> > actually let the
> > > folder show
> > up
> > > in excel. Is this possible, or is this maybe a future feature that
> > > will be implemented? If it is in the feature, I know I would
> > > appreciate the
> > ability.
> > >
> > > Dan Adams - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.infochi.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: Symbolic Links

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:16:16PM -0700, Dan Adams wrote:
>When I try to use a windows shortcut file in cygwin it doesn't seem to work.

Correct.  It is not supposed to work.  Cygwin understands cygwin shortcuts.
Windows understand windows and cygwin shortcuts.
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Man to PDF

[Paul Kraus]

How can I convert a man page to pdf or postscript?
How can I redirect from cygwin bash shell to a windows printer. Say an
epson ink jet or a brother laser jet?

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Re: vtable with snapshot >=20031123

[Christopher Faylor]

On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 06:53:54PM -0600, Axel Naumann wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I ran into a problem with gcc 3.3.1, cygwin snapshots>=20031123 (at 
>least, probably also earlier versions).

Like 1.5.5, for instance.  This isn't specifically a cygwin snapshot
issue.

>This did not happen with earlier versions of cygwin (1.4*); as far as I 
>can remember even gcc 3.3.1 with cygwin 1.4* worked. This is why I 
>believe it's a cygwin problem, not a gcc problem - but I'm really just 
>guessing.

1) There was no cygwin 1.4*.  2) gcc 3.3.1 was released after cygwin 1.5.x.
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RE: Man to PDF

[Paul Kraus]

Figured it out.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Kraus
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Man to PDF
> 
> 
> How can I convert a man page to pdf or postscript?
> How can I redirect from cygwin bash shell to a windows 
> printer. Say an epson ink jet or a brother laser jet?
> 
> Paul
> 
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Re: snapshot cygwin1-20031212.dll.bz2

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:19:04PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I installed the latest snapshot cygwin1-20031214.dll.bz2:
>
>$ uname -a
>CYGWIN_NT-5.0 test 1.5.6s(0.107/3/2) 20031214 23:18:27 i686 unknown unknown
>Cygwin
>
>I am still seeing a stackdump from rsync.
>
>Does the output from this strace help identify the problem 

Unfortunately, no it doesn't.

Can you post the stack dump file you received when running the most
recent snapshot?  Please also include the uname -a output from the
snapshot.

cgf

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Re: Symbolic Links

[Dan Adams]

My question was, is there any way to use the cygwin links, not the windows
ones, to also be able to work in the open dialog box in MS Office products
like excel for example. As I said, it is working in windows explorer. The
only reason why I was mentioning about the windows links is because they
were working in excel and I figured it would be a good example.

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> On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:16:16PM -0700, Dan Adams wrote:
> >When I try to use a windows shortcut file in cygwin it doesn't seem to
work.
>
> Correct.  It is not supposed to work.  Cygwin understands cygwin
shortcuts.
> Windows understand windows and cygwin shortcuts.
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Re: CreateFileMapping, create global objects, and multiple users

[Pierre A. Humblet]

At 11:33 AM 12/15/2003 -0800, Benn Schreiber wrote:
>I'm running Win2003 server and found an interesting anomaly with the 'create
>global objects' right workaround. I have it enabled for administrator
>(obviously), and my account. When I am logged into both admin and my
>account, and both create rxvt windows, the first one created gets hung,

When? Does it depend of the order? Are you in the administrators group?
Do you both login over terminal services or is one of you at the console?
 
> and doing anything to it results in the window disappearing.

So it's not really hung... What do you mean exactly?
 
>Is there a naming conflict or something, such that there can only be one
>Cygwin user on a Win2003 server?

Obviously there is "something", but it shouldn't be there.
There have been lots of changes to that part of Cygwin.
Could you try with a recent snapshot and report again?

Pierre

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RE: CreateFileMapping, create global objects, and multiple users

[Benn Schreiber]

Pierre,

Thanks for the feedback. One of the users is the administrator. The
other is not in the admin group, but has the 'create global object'
right per a note I saw from Corinna.

The snapshot I installed is from 12/1, should this be recent enough?

It does not appear to depend on the order. Both the root (administrator)
and user login are via terminal services. I just tried it with
administrator logged in locally, as well as through TS, and it still
occurs. I also noticed (one time only) that tcsh (my default shell) goes
compute bound. I tried it with bash, and the rxvt window seems to
more-or-less self-destruct on its own (ie I don't even get the
opportunity to close it...it just goes away as soon as I touch it).

The times when the window is hung, I cannot type anything into the
window. The only thing I can do is close it.

Thanks for your thoughts...any additional ideas would be appreciated.

Benn

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From: Pierre A. Humblet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:15 PM
To: Benn Schreiber; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CreateFileMapping, create global objects, and multiple
users

At 11:33 AM 12/15/2003 -0800, Benn Schreiber wrote:
>I'm running Win2003 server and found an interesting anomaly with the
'create
>global objects' right workaround. I have it enabled for administrator
>(obviously), and my account. When I am logged into both admin and my
>account, and both create rxvt windows, the first one created gets hung,

When? Does it depend of the order? Are you in the administrators group?
Do you both login over terminal services or is one of you at the
console?
 
> and doing anything to it results in the window disappearing.

So it's not really hung... What do you mean exactly?
 
>Is there a naming conflict or something, such that there can only be
one
>Cygwin user on a Win2003 server?

Obviously there is "something", but it shouldn't be there.
There have been lots of changes to that part of Cygwin.
Could you try with a recent snapshot and report again?

Pierre

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RE: CreateFileMapping, create global objects, and multiple users

[Pierre A. Humblet]

At 04:39 PM 12/15/2003 -0800, Benn Schreiber wrote:
>Pierre,
>
>Thanks for the feedback. One of the users is the administrator. The
>other is not in the admin group, but has the 'create global object'
>right per a note I saw from Corinna.
>
>The snapshot I installed is from 12/1, should this be recent enough?

Benn,

There has been another significant change on 12/2. Could you try the
latest snapshot? It's stable enough.

>It does not appear to depend on the order. Both the root (administrator)
>and user login are via terminal services. I just tried it with
>administrator logged in locally, as well as through TS, and it still
>occurs. I also noticed (one time only) that tcsh (my default shell) goes
>compute bound. I tried it with bash, and the rxvt window seems to
>more-or-less self-destruct on its own (ie I don't even get the
>opportunity to close it...it just goes away as soon as I touch it).

So at the time the second login takes place, the first one freezes,
even when both are the administrator? 

>The times when the window is hung, I cannot type anything into the
>window. The only thing I can do is close it.
>
>Thanks for your thoughts...any additional ideas would be appreciated.
>

Assuming it keeps occuring with the snapshot, try starting under strace
(from the Terminal Services console) the rxvt that goes away:

strace -o trace.txt rxvt -d :0 -e bash
and send me trace.txt as an attachment.
Do as little as possible in bash (no --login) to keep the trace
size reasonable. Is there a stack dump in the current directory?
Thanks.

Pierre


>Benn
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Pierre A. Humblet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:15 PM
>To: Benn Schreiber; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: CreateFileMapping, create global objects, and multiple
>users
>
>At 11:33 AM 12/15/2003 -0800, Benn Schreiber wrote:
>>I'm running Win2003 server and found an interesting anomaly with the
>'create
>>global objects' right workaround. I have it enabled for administrator
>>(obviously), and my account. When I am logged into both admin and my
>>account, and both create rxvt windows, the first one created gets hung,
>
>When? Does it depend of the order? Are you in the administrators group?
>Do you both login over terminal services or is one of you at the
>console?
> 
>> and doing anything to it results in the window disappearing.
>
>So it's not really hung... What do you mean exactly?
> 
>>Is there a naming conflict or something, such that there can only be
>one
>>Cygwin user on a Win2003 server?
>
>Obviously there is "something", but it shouldn't be there.
>There have been lots of changes to that part of Cygwin.
>Could you try with a recent snapshot and report again?
>
>Pierre
>

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[ADMINISTRIVIA] New mailing list feature to force Reply-To

[Christopher Faylor]

I've made good my threat and implemented a new feature exclusively for
the cygwin mailing list.

If you send email to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", then
the mailing list software should set the reply-to to the same value
as your from address whenever you send email to the cygwin mailing list.

I've also added an X-IsSubscribed field to the header of any message
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the list.

All of this is pretty experimental.  I'll be monitoring the mailing
lists closely to make sure that I haven't screwed anything up.

FYI,
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Re: [ADMINISTRIVIA] New mailing list feature to force Reply-To

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> I've made good my threat and implemented a new feature exclusively for
> the cygwin mailing list.
> [snip]
> I've also added an X-IsSubscribed field to the header of any message
> that comes from an address that is recognized as being subscribed.  You
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> the list.

Great, thanks!  Will it also be set for cygwin-allow subscribers?
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Re: [ADMINISTRIVIA] New mailing list feature to force Reply-To

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:11:15PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>I've made good my threat and implemented a new feature exclusively for
>the cygwin mailing list.
>
>If you send email to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", then
>the mailing list software should set the reply-to to the same value
>as your from address whenever you send email to the cygwin mailing list.
>
>I've also added an X-IsSubscribed field to the header of any message
>that comes from an address that is recognized as being subscribed.  You
>can use this to determine whether to cc someone or just send email to
>the list.
>
>All of this is pretty experimental.  I'll be monitoring the mailing
>lists closely to make sure that I haven't screwed anything up.

Oh well.  I obviously screwed up.  The spam is coming in and the subscribe
option doesn't work.  I sent the email above prematurely.

Hang on.

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RE: Third-party products that include Cygwin

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

> On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 08:26:34PM +0100, Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote:
> > > Well, no one knows everything. :-)
> >
> >  I've also noted: The more you learn, the more you know that you don't know.
> > (Is that correct/good English? Feels bad to me in some way).
>
> I think that's fine English, though I think the more popular way to say it is
> "The more you learn, the less you know!" Your way actually might be more
> technically correct.
>

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Re: Symbolic Links

[Brian Dessent]

Dan Adams wrote:
> 
> My question was, is there any way to use the cygwin links, not the windows
> ones, to also be able to work in the open dialog box in MS Office products
> like excel for example. As I said, it is working in windows explorer. The
> only reason why I was mentioning about the windows links is because they
> were working in excel and I figured it would be a good example.

If your filesystem is NTFS (and $deity hope it is, as FAT32 hurts like
something awful) then you can try fooling around with its built in
symbolic links, which are called junctions in the parlance.  There are
no built-in tools to do this but the venerable Mark Russinovich again
comes to the rescue with his freeware: 

from :

Junction

Win2K's version of NTFS supports directory symbolic links, where a
directory serves as a symbolic link to another directory on the
computer. For example, if the directory D:\SYMLINK specified
C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32 as its target, then an application accessing
D:\SYMLINK\DRIVERS would in reality be accessing
C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS. Directory symbolic links are known as NTFS
junctions in Win2K. Unfortunately, Win2K comes with no tools for
creating junctions - you have to purchase the Win2K Resource Kit, which
comes the linkd program for creating junctions. I therefore decided to
write my own junction-creating tool: Junction. Junction not only allows
you to create NTFS junctions, it allows you to see if files or
directories are actually reparse points. Reparse points are the
mechanism on which NTFS junctions are based, and they are used by
Win2K's Remote Storage Service (RSS), as well as volume mount points. 

If you want to view reparse information, the usage for Junction is the
following: 

Usage: junction [-s]  

-s  Recurse subdirectories. 

If you want to create or delete a junction, use Junction like this: 

Usage: junction [-d]  [] 

To delete a junction specify the -d switch and the junction name. 

Download Junction (16KB) 

Download Junction Source (22 KB) 
>>

I have not tried this but it sounds like it might be helpful for you.  I
have no idea how Cygwin would interact with one of these, but since it's
layered on top of Windows' kernel NTFS driver I would expect that it
would treat them just as any other app would, i.e. do the right thing.

Brian

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Re: [ADMINISTRIVIA] New mailing list feature to force Reply-To

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:25:31PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:11:15PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>I've made good my threat and implemented a new feature exclusively for
>>the cygwin mailing list.
>>
>>If you send email to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", then
>>the mailing list software should set the reply-to to the same value
>>as your from address whenever you send email to the cygwin mailing list.
>>
>>I've also added an X-IsSubscribed field to the header of any message
>>that comes from an address that is recognized as being subscribed.  You
>>can use this to determine whether to cc someone or just send email to
>>the list.
>>
>>All of this is pretty experimental.  I'll be monitoring the mailing
>>lists closely to make sure that I haven't screwed anything up.
>
>Oh well.  I obviously screwed up.  The spam is coming in and the subscribe
>option doesn't work.  I sent the email above prematurely.
>
>Hang on.

Ok.  New plan.

I had to actually set this up as a mini-mailing list to allow ezmlm to
handle the "replyto" subscribe requests.

The new mailing list name is "cygwin-replyto".

If you send email to cygwin-replyto-subscribe-*ATSIGN*-cygwin-PERIOD-com
you will go through the standard subscribe process.  The mailing list
manager will ask you for confirmation, you will send email back and then
you will be subscribed to the cygwin-replyto "list".  Some of the
responses you get may be a little confusing since this is not really a
real mailing list and you can't send email to it (although, hmm, a
mailing list named cygwin-replyto which always added the reply-to is an
interesting idea).

You can also, as always send email to
cygwin-replyto-subscribe-you=yourdomain.com*ATSIGN*-cygwin-PERIOD-com

to subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Once you're "subscribed" the mailing list manager (actually my mailing
list manager, all singing, all dancing, spam blocker, etc.) will add
a Reply-To to any message that [EMAIL PROTECTED] sends to the list.

I'm taking my life in my hands right now by sending this email without
my usual explicit reply-to set just to test that this works.

I apologize for the flood of spam that accompanied my aborted effort to
get this working the first time.  I made the mistake of checking to see
if my new method worked without verifying that the spam blocking also
still worked.  I'm sure that all of the users of the sources.redhat.com
lists are very happy with the increased spam they received.

If this email makes it to the list without a reply-to, I will continue
to tweak things.  Please don't take that as an indication that I want
to enter into a personal dialog about cygwin or reply-tos.

cgf

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Re: [ADMINISTRIVIA] New mailing list feature to force Reply-To

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:10:01PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>If this email makes it to the list without a reply-to, I will continue
>to tweak things.  Please don't take that as an indication that I want
>to enter into a personal dialog about cygwin or reply-tos.

>X-IsSubscribed: yes

And, of course, it didn't have a Reply-To set.  It did have the above header
set, so I guess that's a small victory.

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[META] Other mailing list ideas

[Christopher Faylor]

I'm toying with the idea of having the mailing list software munge
certain types of mailing list addresses in the body of a message
as it comes in, before it is archived or sent out.

The patterns I'd look for are something like:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
munged to
  aaaspam writes:

  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
munged to
   aaaspam writes:

  Albert A. Aspam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
munged to
  Albert A. Aspam writes:

  >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
munged to
  >.*aaaspam


  From: Albert A. Spam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
munged to
  From: Albert A. Spam

  From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
munged to
  From: aaaspam

etc.

Any objections to this?  This should leave email addresses in signatures
and in ChangeLogs alone while catching the majority of the abuses, I think.

We'd also talked a while ago about adding something like a --EOF-- flag
which could be put in a message to cause the mailing list software to
ignore everything after that point.  This would allow the opt-in removal
of those multi-line disclaimers that everyone loves.

cgf

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Re: Symbolic Links

[Elliott Wilcoxon]

NTFS also supports hard links, and there's a program that comes with 
Windows that lets you make them (searching WinXP Pro's Help and Support 
Center for 'hardlink' gives the relevant entries).  The result would 
then be that it would work in both Cygwin and Windows (all programs), 
although it can be confusing if you're not used to thinking of file 
system-y stuff.

Elliott Wilcoxon

Brian Dessent wrote:

Dan Adams wrote:

My question was, is there any way to use the cygwin links, not the windows
ones, to also be able to work in the open dialog box in MS Office products
like excel for example. As I said, it is working in windows explorer. The
only reason why I was mentioning about the windows links is because they
were working in excel and I figured it would be a good example.


If your filesystem is NTFS (and $deity hope it is, as FAT32 hurts like
something awful) then you can try fooling around with its built in
symbolic links, which are called junctions in the parlance.  There are
no built-in tools to do this but the venerable Mark Russinovich again
comes to the rescue with his freeware: 

from :

Junction

Win2K's version of NTFS supports directory symbolic links, where a
directory serves as a symbolic link to another directory on the
computer. For example, if the directory D:\SYMLINK specified
C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32 as its target, then an application accessing
D:\SYMLINK\DRIVERS would in reality be accessing
C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS. Directory symbolic links are known as NTFS
junctions in Win2K. Unfortunately, Win2K comes with no tools for
creating junctions - you have to purchase the Win2K Resource Kit, which
comes the linkd program for creating junctions. I therefore decided to
write my own junction-creating tool: Junction. Junction not only allows
you to create NTFS junctions, it allows you to see if files or
directories are actually reparse points. Reparse points are the
mechanism on which NTFS junctions are based, and they are used by
Win2K's Remote Storage Service (RSS), as well as volume mount points. 

If you want to view reparse information, the usage for Junction is the
following: 

Usage: junction [-s]  

-s	Recurse subdirectories. 

If you want to create or delete a junction, use Junction like this: 

Usage: junction [-d]  [] 

To delete a junction specify the -d switch and the junction name. 

Download Junction (16KB) 

Download Junction Source (22 KB) 

I have not tried this but it sounds like it might be helpful for you.  I
have no idea how Cygwin would interact with one of these, but since it's
layered on top of Windows' kernel NTFS driver I would expect that it
would treat them just as any other app would, i.e. do the right thing.
Brian

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RE: [META] Other mailing list ideas

[Bobby McNulty Junior]

Sounds good to me, Chris.
I've been here since 1999.
Glad you did this.
Bobby

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Christopher Faylor
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [META] Other mailing list ideas


I'm toying with the idea of having the mailing list software munge
certain types of mailing list addresses in the body of a message
as it comes in, before it is archived or sent out.

The patterns I'd look for are something like:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
munged to
  aaaspam writes:

  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
munged to
   aaaspam writes:

  Albert A. Aspam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
munged to
  Albert A. Aspam writes:

  >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
munged to
  >.*aaaspam


  From: Albert A. Spam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
munged to
  From: Albert A. Spam

  From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
munged to
  From: aaaspam

etc.

Any objections to this?  This should leave email addresses in signatures
and in ChangeLogs alone while catching the majority of the abuses, I think.

We'd also talked a while ago about adding something like a --EOF-- flag
which could be put in a message to cause the mailing list software to
ignore everything after that point.  This would allow the opt-in removal
of those multi-line disclaimers that everyone loves.

cgf

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Re: [META] Other mailing list ideas

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:07:42PM -0600, Bobby McNulty Junior wrote:
>Sounds good to me, Chris.  I've been here since 1999.  Glad you did
>this.

Just FYI, you (Bobby) subscribed to the new replyto mechanism but your
subscribe line had a dot at the end of your domain name, i.e.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ^

Unless you send email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] you shouldn't be using it
in the subscribe request.

I'm mentioning this here in case anyone else somehow misinterprets my
original message and tries to do the same thing.
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RE: [META] Other mailing list ideas

[Bobby McNulty Junior]

OK.I'll try again.
Bobby

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Christopher Faylor
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [META] Other mailing list ideas


On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:07:42PM -0600, Bobby McNulty Junior wrote:
>Sounds good to me, Chris.  I've been here since 1999.  Glad you did
>this.

Just FYI, you (Bobby) subscribed to the new replyto mechanism but your
subscribe line had a dot at the end of your domain name, i.e.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ^

Unless you send email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] you shouldn't be using it
in the subscribe request.

I'm mentioning this here in case anyone else somehow misinterprets my
original message and tries to do the same thing.
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Re: [META] Other mailing list ideas

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:16:37PM -0600, Bobby McNulty Junior wrote:
>OK.I'll try again.

No need.  I already subscribed you.

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RE: [META] Other mailing list ideas

[Bobby McNulty Junior]

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Christopher Faylor
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [META] Other mailing list ideas


On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:16:37PM -0600, Bobby McNulty Junior wrote:
>OK.I'll try again.

No need.  I already subscribed you.

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Re: [META] Other mailing list ideas

[Larry Hall]

At 10:52 PM 12/15/2003, Christopher Faylor you wrote:
>I'm toying with the idea of having the mailing list software munge
>certain types of mailing list addresses in the body of a message
>as it comes in, before it is archived or sent out.
>
>The patterns I'd look for are something like:
>
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>munged to
>  aaaspam writes:
>
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>munged to
>   aaaspam writes:
>
>  Albert A. Aspam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>munged to
>  Albert A. Aspam writes:
>
>  >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>munged to
>  >.*aaaspam
>
>
>  From: Albert A. Spam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>munged to
>  From: Albert A. Spam
>
>  From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>munged to
>  From: aaaspam
>
>etc.
>
>Any objections to this?  This should leave email addresses in signatures
>and in ChangeLogs alone while catching the majority of the abuses, I think.
>
>We'd also talked a while ago about adding something like a --EOF-- flag
>which could be put in a message to cause the mailing list software to
>ignore everything after that point.  This would allow the opt-in removal
>of those multi-line disclaimers that everyone loves.


I'd LOVE this!



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RE: [META] Other mailing list ideas

[carlo]

This is a great idea!  Although I am only a simple subscriber
to this mailing list, I would gladly celebrate with the proposition.
 The EOF stuff would save a considerable amount of space in the
archives.

Thanks!

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--- Original Message ---
Christopher Faylor
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:52:55 -0500
 -- 
I'm toying with the idea of having the mailing list software
munge
certain types of mailing list addresses in the body of a message
as it comes in, before it is archived or sent out.

The patterns I'd look for are something like:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
munged to
  aaaspam writes:

  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
munged to
   aaaspam writes:

  Albert A. Aspam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
munged to
  Albert A. Aspam writes:

  >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
munged to
  >.*aaaspam


  From: Albert A. Spam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
munged to
  From: Albert A. Spam

  From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
munged to
  From: aaaspam

etc.

Any objections to this?  This should leave email addresses in
signatures
and in ChangeLogs alone while catching the majority of the abuses,
I think.

We'd also talked a while ago about adding something like a --EOF--
flag
which could be put in a message to cause the mailing list software
to
ignore everything after that point.  This would allow the opt-in
removal
of those multi-line disclaimers that everyone loves.

cgf

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