RE: Advocacy

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

[snip]

> I am sorry for suggesting that people should contact this company to
> talk about the disclaimer.  I thought that maybe if enough people contacted
> the proper authorities they might be able to help institute a change.
> I wasn't suggesting that anyone contact the original sender to complain
> since it is clear that they have no power over this.
>

If I may:

"
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 07:45:10AM -0800, Michael A Chase wrote:
[snip]
>> >PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential
>> >and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended
>> >recipient of this email you must not copy, distribute or take any
>> >further action in reliance on it and you should delete it and notify the
  ^^
>> >sender immediately. Email is not a secure method of communication and
^^
>
>Perhaps it would be better for us all to just follow the instructions
>and notify the sender since it wasn't sent to any of us specifically.
 ^

Good point!  Notify away.

cgf
"

Either one of us misunderstands the phrase "the sender", or YOWTWYWT.  Or you're
trying to backpedal.

> I've previously floated the idea of filtering out these disclaimers on
> the overseers at sources dot redhat.com mailing list and no one thought
> it was a very good idea.  So my threat to do so was just an idle one.

Idle threats and inciting people to harass contributors, great policy.

Really I'm just jealous though.  Man, it would be *sooo* sweet if the only thing
I had to worry about in my life was a few lines of boilerplate text on 0.0001%
of the emails I get daily!  That would indeed be the life.

Jesus Juvenile Christ.

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Re: cygwin snap 20030223 hangs with bleadperl

[H.Merijn Brand]

On Tue 04 Mar 2003 06:01, Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 03:20:02PM +0100, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
> >On Tue 25 Feb 2003 14:15, "H.Merijn Brand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> ../ext/IO/lib/IO/t/io_udp..ok
> >> ../ext/IO/lib/IO/t/io_unix.ok 1/5
> >> 
> >> 20030220 still OK
> >
> >20030225 also hangs
> >
> >(Note that I'm still not on the list)
> 
> Is it better now?
> 
> cgf

Yep.

CYGWIN_NT-5.0 PC09 1.3.21s(0.77/3/2) 20030302 23:00:55 i686 unknown unknown Cygwin

Completed the smoke. I was discussing a longstanding Cygwin issue yesterday
with some other smokers and we all agreed that there is still a glitch in
cygwin that /we/ think cygwin is to blame for.

Running the complete test from the prompt completes without error, but when
started from a script in the background, there are still messages that get a
 added and unexpectedly yield  instead of plain , causing
these tests to fail: Expected Foo, got Foo

$CYGWIN is "tty ntsec binary"

If you can fix this, you can add Cygwin to one of the systems where smokes on
bleadperl yield a full-O (all OK) report.

Enjoy, have FUN! H.Merijn

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Cygwin and other open source licenses

[Kasper Nielsen]

Hi,

I was just browsing Slashdot and came across this interview with 
Professor Eben Moglen. (see below)
I’m currently doing a project at my university that uses the cygwin.dll 
for windows compatibility.
My project is licensed under some special open source university license 
like most universities has.
However after having read the interview it seems to me that I’m 
violating the license by not using the GPL for my work but some other 
open source license with my university requires.
Am I right?

- Kasper

---
 2) Clarifying the GPL
by sterno
One issue that I know has come up for me is how the GPL applies in 
situations where I'm using GPL software but I'm not actually modifying 
it. For example, I write a Java application, and it is reliant on a JAR 
that is GPL'd. Do I then need to GPL my software? I haven't changed the 
JAR in anyway, I'm just redistributing it with my software. The end user 
could just as easily download the JAR themselves, it's just a 
convenience for me to offer it in my package.

Eben:

The language or programming paradigm in use doesn't determine the rules 
of compliance, nor does whether the GPL'd code has been modified. The 
situation is no different than the one where your code depends on static 
or dynamic linking of a GPL'd library, say GNU readline. Your code, in 
order to operate, must be combined with the GPL'd code, forming a new 
combined work, which under GPL section 2(b) must be distributed under 
the terms of the GPL and only the GPL. If the author of the other code 
had chosen to release his JAR under the Lesser GPL, your contribution to 
the combined work could be released under any license of your choosing, 
but by releasing under GPL he or she chose to invoke the principle of 
"share and share alike."

the rest of the interview can be found on
http://interviews.slashdot.org/interviews/03/02/20/1544245.shtml?tid=117&tid=123
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Re: Testsuite as a package (was: Re: Was that the sound of a snapshotgoing off?)

[Ronald Landheer-Cieslak]

On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> > > Please try the latest cygwin snapshot and report any problems or successes
> > > here.  The latest snapshot may be close to cygwin 1.3.21.
> > I would *love* to do that, but I have a WIBGI (Wouldn't It Be Great If
> > ...)
> >
> > WIBGI the testsuite for Cygwin (the one in the winsup subdirectory) would
> > be available as a separate package via Setup (under the experimental
> > packages, of course) That would make it a lot easier for us folks willing
> > to help to .. help! :)
> >
> > Any time you launch a "Please try the snapshot - it might become the next
> > version" I would be more than willing to run the testsuite against the
> > snapshot and report any regressions (and investigate them if need be).
> >
> > My problem is that I don't have (and can't get) a copyright assignment, so
> > I am restricted to trivial contributions - which is why I haven't made any
> > so far.
> >
> > To limit trafic to the mailing list, if you like this idea, I would
> > propose to add a list called cygwin-regressions at cygwin dot com for the
> > output of the testsuite - so this list doesn't get flooded with reports.
> >
> > Good idea? Bad idea?
> > rlc
> 
> Ronald,
> 
> A few points (in original message order):
> 2) The absense of copyright assignment does not prevent you from checking
>out the winsup/tests directory (or, in fact, any cygwin cvs repository)
>anonymously ().  There is no need for a
>separate package...
There is no *need* for a separate package - but it would make life easier 
for those who want to help regression testing.

> 3) I believe (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that the testsuite is
>run after most commits, and regressions are noticed right away, so your
>proposal would be kind of redundant.  Besides, the testsuite doesn't
>catch everything, and most reports on the list were not related to the
>testsuite, but to real world applications.
The testsuite can't possibly be run after every commit on all target 
platforms. Red Hat may have a lot of resources, but I don't believe for a 
moment that it they can run the testsuite on a couple of thousand machines 
after every commit.

I never said it was a necessity - or even implied it. I said "wouldn't it
be great if" (or WIBGI for short). I think it would be a good idea to have
a separate testsuite that I can just install & run whenever a new snapshot
gets launched. I think it will be of help to signal regressions and I want
to be of help if I can. I *know* not having a license disclaimer does not
deprive me of CVS access - I also know that I don't want to have to
compile Cygwin every time I want to run the test suite - and the test
suite as is just happens to depend on new-cygwin1.dll (to test a
just-compiled Cygwin DLL).

> Mean enough? ;-)
I ain't crying yet, so no ;)

rlc



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Re: Testsuite as a package (was: Re: Was that the sound of a snapshotgoing off?)

[Ronald Landheer-Cieslak]

On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:
[snipped Igor's reply - already replied]

> A few extra observations: You can't just run the testsuite on the
> installed version of cygwin.  It is meant to be run against
> winsup/new-cygwin1.dll.  So how do you work around that?  Extract the
> source into some directory, create a build directory, configure it, and
> then
>   cd i686-pc-cygwin/winsup
>   cp /bin/cygwin1.dll cygwin/new-cygwin1.dll
>   cp -p /lib/libcygwin.a cygwin/new-libcygwin.a
>   cp -p /lib/libcygwin.a cygwin/libcygwin.a
>   cd testsuite
>   make check
OK, I'll admit I've never tried that (I haven't had the time and/or will 
to look into it further than just "darn, doesn't work - oh well..".

> However, as was pointed out, I, and others are already running the test
> suite. I want to get real world testing since the test suite doesn't
> test everything.
And, as I pointed out, you don't have any of my machines. Of course the 
testsuite does not test everything, but I would be surprised if it doesn't 
test anything at all.

But hey, if you don't think it'll be useful, I won't insist :)

rlc

BTW: I will run the testsuite against the latest snapshot and see if I get 
any regressions, of course - I'll let you know :p



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RE: Control the cygwin terminal with escape sequences

[Philippe Verdret]

Hi Igor,

After updating cygwin on my pc, i try again:

% perl -e 'system("stty raw -echo") ; print "\e[H\e[J"'

which doesn't clear the screen. 
I use the ActiveState Perl, 5.8.0, bash 2.05b.0(8) and cygwin-1.3.20-1.
Can you send me a command line which work? I will try it.

Many thanks,
Philippe


-Message d'origine-
De : Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoye : lundi 3 mars 2003 16:52
A : Philippe Verdret
Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: Control the cygwin terminal with escape sequences


Redirecting to the correct list.  Please remove  from replies.

On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Philippe Verdret wrote:

> Hi,
>
> i want to control the cygwin terminal with escape sequences generated
> by a Perl program.
>
> I can clear the screen with the echo command:
> % echo -e "\033[H\033[J"
>
> but if i write a small inline perl program, i can't:
>
> % perl -e 'print "\033[H\033[J"'
>
> This doesn't work even if i put the screen in 'raw mode' without echo
> (with system('stty -echo raw') in the perl program).
>
> Can you help me?
>
> Philippe

And answering:

Philippe,

Works for me (using cygwin-1.3.20, bash-2.05b-8 and perl-5.6.1)...  You
might want to report your problem properly, as described in
.  Also, check that your perl one-liner
outputs exactly the right sequence (by piping it to "od -c", for example).
Igor
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Re: Cygwin and other open source licenses

[Marcel Telka]

> Hi,
> 
> I was just browsing Slashdot and came across this interview with 
> Professor Eben Moglen. (see below)
> I'm currently doing a project at my university that uses the
> cygwin.dll 
> for windows compatibility.
> My project is licensed under some special open source university
> license 
> like most universities has.
> However after having read the interview it seems to me that I'm 
> violating the license by not using the GPL for my work but some other 
> open source license with my university requires.
> Am I right?

If you want to distribute your software in source code form only and
sources for cygwin1.dll are not a part of the distribution, then you are
free to chose any license you want (including proprietary) for your
software.

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Re: compiling setup.exe (was Re: Distributing .ISO files.)

[Ronald Landheer-Cieslak]

Ehm.. do you really think we're interested in the output of upx --help 
here? I mean: "UPX - Ultimate Packer for eXecutables; see 
 for details" would have been more than 
enough, don't you think?

rlc

On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Randall R Schulz wrote:

> Robert,
> 
> Upx.
> 
> 
> 
> -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
> % upx --help
>  Ultimate Packer for eXecutables
>  Copyright (C) 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002
> UPX 1.24wMarkus F.X.J. Oberhumer & Laszlo Molnar Nov 7th 2002
> 
> Usage: upx [-123456789dlthVL] [-qvfk] [-o file] file..
> 
> Commands:
>   -1 compress faster   -9compress better
>   --best compress best (can be very slow for big files)
>   -d decompress-llist compressed file
>   -t test compressed file  -Vdisplay version number
>   -h give this help-Ldisplay software license
> 
> Options:
>   -q be quiet  -vbe verbose
>   -oFILE write output to `FILE'
>   -f force compression of suspicious files
>   --no-color, --mono, --color, --no-progress   change look
> 
> Backup options:
>   -k, --backupkeep backup files
>   --no-backup no backup files [default]
> 
> Overlay options:
>   --overlay=copy  copy any extra data attached to the file [default]
>   --overlay=strip strip any extra data attached to the file [dangerous]
>   --overlay=skip  don't compress a file with an overlay
> 
> Options for dos/exe:
>   --8086  make compressed exe work on any 8086
>   --no-reloc  put no relocations in to the exe header
> 
> Options for dos/com:
>   --8086  make compressed com work on any 8086
> 
> Options for dos/sys:
>   --8086  make compressed sys work on any 8086
> 
> Options for djgpp2/coff:
>   --coff  produce COFF output [default: EXE]
> 
> Options for watcom/le:
>   --leproduce LE output [default: EXE]
> 
> Options for win32/pe & rtm32/pe:
>   --compress-exports=0do not compress the export section
>   --compress-exports=1compress the export section [default]
>   --compress-icons=0  do not compress any icons
>   --compress-icons=1  compress all but the first icon
>   --compress-icons=2  compress all but the first icon directory [default]
>   --compress-resources=0  do not compress any resources at all
>   --strip-relocs=0do not strip relocations
>   --strip-relocs=1strip relocations [default]
> 
>   file.. executables to (de)compress
> 
> This version supports: dos/exe, dos/com, dos/sys, djgpp2/coff, watcom/le,
>win32/pe, rtm32/pe, tmt/adam, atari/tos, linux/386
> 
> UPX comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `upx -L'.
> -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
> 
> Randall Schulz
> 
> 
> At 17:01 2003-03-03, Robert Citek wrote:
> 
> >At 07:27 PM 3/3/2003 -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> >>> I'm still getting my feet wet with the Cygwin sources, CVS, patch, etc.
> >>> For example, I downloaded the setup module and compiled it.  Instead of a
> >>> ~100 K file, mine was ~10 MB.  It seems to work, but obviously, I did
> >>> something wrong.  Or is being off by 2 orders of magnitude "close enough?"
> >>
> >>"man strip".  
> >
> >Will do.
> >
> >>FYI, the stripped mingw-compiled setup.exe is just over 700k.
> >
> >Hmmm.  The one I downloaded from the web to do the Cygwin install was only
> >about 170k.  How do I create that one?
> >
> >Regards,
> >- Robert
> 
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Re: Malloc array size limit

[Ronald Landheer-Cieslak]

See if this helps
http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/setup-maxmem.html

rlc

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Fabrizio Impagnatiello wrote:

> I experienced run-time array memory allocation failure using cygwin1.dll
> versions 1.3.14, 1.3.17, 1.3.18, 1.3.19, 1.3.20.
> This trouble does not reveals using 1.3.12.
> 
> In particular the largest allocable array (from both gcc and g77) size is
> limited to about 128 MBytes.
> 
> Christopher Faylor states that "Doug Lea malloc "was introduced in version
> 1.3.13 for all malloc operations (see what's new). Is this new malloc
> appropriate ??
> 
> Fabrizio Impagnatiello
> Alenia Spazio
> Rome - Italy
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RE: Creating an ssh key with ssh-keygen

[Vince Hoffman]

man ssh-keygen  -t is explained on the first page.

> -Original Message-
> From: Joshua S. Abbott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 March 2003 01:42
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Fw: Creating an ssh key with ssh-keygen
> Importance: High
> 
> 
> Anyone know how to use the -t switch with ssh-keygen??
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Joshua S. Abbott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:19 PM
> Subject: Creating an ssh key with ssh-keygen
> 
> 
> > hello someone please tell me how to create an ssh key in 
> cygwin (windows)
> > keytype being ssh2 i think
> > the full command please. thanks
> > 
> > 
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Re: sudo and runas

[Jon Ewing]

>> > Jon,
>> >
>> > How about describing the symptoms?
>>
>> I gotta remember the verbage of that one. Short, sweet and to the
point.
>> It never ceases to amaze me how many times people ask for help
stating
>> that what they tried didn't work but totally lacking of any of the
>> details of the problem (like what exactly they tried, error messages,
>> example output, what they expected and what they got, etc). I usually
>> use the semi smart assed question of: What was your first indication
>> that it failed? But yours is shorter, more to the point and perhaps a
>> little less smart assed. It still gets me though how prevelent it is
for
>> people to say they have a problem but neglects to give any details.
>>
>> (I must be getting mean :-)
>
>Hmm, DTFS, eh?
>
>Sorry, sorry, no more gratuitous acronyms...  Bad brain, bad! ;-)
>   Igor


Thankyou for your comments everyone...

On my home PC (WinXP, latest cygwin), runas immediately exits - there's
no password prompt and no processes are started:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (~) % runas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (~) %

On my work PC (Win2k, latest cygwin) I get the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (~) % runas /user:Administrator 'notepad.exe'
Enter password for Administrator:RUNAS ERROR: Unable to change echo mode
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (~) %

Any other useful information that I could supply?

And DTFS? 

Thanks again,

Jon.


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Re: Testsuite as a package (was: Re: Was that the sound of a snapshotgoing off?)

[Max Bowsher]

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote:
> There is no *need* for a separate package - but it would make life easier
> for those who want to help regression testing.

And it would be extra work for Chris. I don't think performing a CVS
checkout is that hard.

> I never said it was a necessity - or even implied it. I said "wouldn't it
> be great if" (or WIBGI for short). I think it would be a good idea to have
> a separate testsuite that I can just install & run whenever a new snapshot
> gets launched. I think it will be of help to signal regressions and I want
> to be of help if I can. I *know* not having a license disclaimer does not
> deprive me of CVS access - I also know that I don't want to have to
> compile Cygwin every time I want to run the test suite - and the test
> suite as is just happens to depend on new-cygwin1.dll (to test a
> just-compiled Cygwin DLL).

Why *don't* you want to compile Cygwin when you run the testsuite?
"../src/configure && make", wait a while, all done.

Max.


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tetex installation wierdness.

[Janus Nicolay Christensen]

Hello,

I am experiencing a problem installing the tetex LaTeX distribution
on one machine (called dkms1301) but not the other (called test).
When running the Cygwin setup program I select the following
packages:
* tetex
* tetex-base
* tetex-extra
* ghostscript

On test the installation works, but on dkms1301 some bits seem to be
missing, including the 'latex' symlink in /usr/bin. I have attached
the installation logs from test and dkms1301, and as is evident the
same packages are installed on both machines, so it is not a case
(as far as I can tell) of a missing package (I would have liked to
attach cygcheck outputs also, but I cannot. access the dkms1301
today, and cygcheck output from only one machine offers little in
way of comparing the two installations.)

Has anybody experienced this and if so, what can I do to solve it?

By the way: what are those "compress_bz::error called" messages in
the log files?

Regards,
Janus Christensen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - +45 33 77 30 28 ---
Systemudvikler- Dansk Industri
System Developer  - The Confederation of Danish Industries
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Re: Testsuite as a package (was: Re: Was that the sound of a snapshotgoing off?)

[Ronald Landheer-Cieslak]

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Max Bowsher wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote:
> > There is no *need* for a separate package - but it would make life
> > easier for those who want to help regression testing.
> And it would be extra work for Chris. I don't think performing a CVS
> checkout is that hard.
I'll write a script that does what's needed to apply the testsuite to the 
currently-installed Cygwin DLL - it's not that hard either.

> > I never said it was a necessity - or even implied it. I said "wouldn't
> > it be great if" (or WIBGI for short). I think it would be a good idea
> > to have a separate testsuite that I can just install & run whenever a
> > new snapshot gets launched. I think it will be of help to signal
> > regressions and I want to be of help if I can. I *know* not having a
> > license disclaimer does not deprive me of CVS access - I also know
> > that I don't want to have to compile Cygwin every time I want to run
> > the test suite - and the test suite as is just happens to depend on
> > new-cygwin1.dll (to test a just-compiled Cygwin DLL).
> Why *don't* you want to compile Cygwin when you run the testsuite?
> "../src/configure && make", wait a while, all done.
Because I want to test the snapshot Chris wanted to have tested - not some 
random build after the snapshot was made.

But, I guess the conclusion of this thread is that it wouldn't be great if 
...

OK, I can live with that :)

rlc


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Re: Problem compiling Perl Tk800.024

[Dr. Volker Zell]

> "jon" == jon ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

jon> Hi Gerrit,

jon> Sorry for the delay in replying...

>> Hmmm, I tried Tk800.23 without X, there were only minor 
>> problems, does it compile without X?

Yes, See below 

jon> No.

jon> Firstly I removed the duplicated methods from stubs.c. Then when
jon> 'make'ing, I first got:

jon> ...
jon> ...
jon> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jon/src/perlModules/Tk800.024/pTk'
jon> gcc -c -I..  -I. -Ibitmaps  -DPERL_USE_SAFE_PUTENV -fno-strict-aliasing
jon> -I/usr/local/include -DUSEIMPORTLIB -O2   -DVERSION=\"800.024\"
jon> -DXS_VERSION=\"800.024\"  -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/cygwin-multi/CORE
jon> -D__WIN32__ -Wall -Wno-implicit-int -Wno-comment -Wno-unused
jon> -D__USE_FIXED_PROTOTYPES__ stubs.c
jon> cc1: warning: changing search order for system directory
jon> "/usr/local/include"
jon> cc1: warning:   as it has already been specified as a non-system
jon> directory
jon> In file included from /usr/include/w32api/windows.h:87,
jon>  from Lang.h:194,
jon>  from tkPort.h:24,
jon>  from tk.h:71,
jon>  from tkInt.h:21,
jon>  from stubs.c:7:
jon> /usr/include/w32api/winspool.h:239: unnamed fields of type other than
jon> struct or union are not allowed
jon> /usr/include/w32api/winspool.h:254: unnamed fields of type other than
jon> struct or union are not allowed
jon> /usr/include/w32api/winspool.h:275: unnamed fields of type other than
jon> struct or union are not allowed
jon> /usr/include/w32api/winspool.h:300: unnamed fields of type other than
jon> struct or union are not allowed
jon> /usr/include/w32api/winspool.h:446: unnamed fields of type other than
jon> struct or union are not allowed
jon> /usr/include/w32api/winspool.h:469: unnamed fields of type other than
jon> struct or union are not allowed
jon> make[1]: *** [stubs.o] Error 1
jon> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jon/src/perlModules/Tk800.024/pTk'
jon> make: *** [pTk/libpTk.a] Error 2



jon> I figured the stuff from winspool.h probably wasn't used, so edited
jon> windows.h and commented out that line. The compilation then got further,
jon> but stopped with:

jon> ...
jon> ...
jon> gcc -c -I..  -I. -Ibitmaps  -DPERL_USE_SAFE_PUTENV -fno-strict-aliasing
jon> -I/usr/local/include -DUSEIMPORTLIB -O2   -DVERSION=\"800.024\"
jon> -DXS_VERSION=\"800.024\"  -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/cygwin-multi/CORE
jon> -D__WIN32__ -Wall -Wno-implicit-int -Wno-comment -Wno-unused
jon> -D__USE_FIXED_PROTOTYPES__ tixUnixDraw.c
jon> cc1: warning: changing search order for system directory
jon> "/usr/local/include"
jon> cc1: warning:   as it has already been specified as a non-system
jon> directory
jon> tixUnixDraw.c: In function `TixpStartSubRegionDraw':
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:152: structure has no member named `rectUsed'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:153: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:154: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:155: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:156: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:158: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:161: structure has no member named `rectUsed'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c: In function `TixpEndSubRegionDraw':
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:178: structure has no member named `rectUsed'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:179: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:180: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:181: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:182: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:183: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c: In function `TixpSubRegDrawImage':
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:268: structure has no member named `rectUsed'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:269: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:270: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:271: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:272: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:274: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:274: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:275: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:275: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:278: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:279: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:280: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:281: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:283: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:283: structure has no member named `rect'
jon> tixUnixDraw.c:284: structure has no member named `r

Re: "hostname" takes 3.5 seconds

[Niall . Smart]

Thanks for the feedback.

Turns out this was a problem in the Novell client I was using, applying the
patches in nt483pt6.exe from novell.com cured it.



   

Niall Smart

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

03/03/2003   cc:   

16:37Subject: "hostname" takes 3.5 seconds 

   

   




Anyone know why calling hostname takes 3.5 seconds?

Most of the time seems to be spent in cygwin_gethostname and ExitProcess:

This really slows down my shell.

time strace -f hostname

**
Program name: C:\cygwin\bin\hostname.exe (268)
App version:  1003.15, api: 0.63
DLL version:  1003.20, api: 0.73
DLL build:2003-02-08 12:10
OS version:   Windows NT-5.1
Heap size:402653184
Date/Time:2003-03-03 16:38:23
**
  448 821 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020008: !::=::\
   78 899 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x100204D0: !C:=C:
\cygwin\bin
   64 963 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x100204E8: !F:=F:\
   621025 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x100204F8: !L:=L:\
   741099 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020508: !M:=M:\
   631162 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020518: !N:=N:\
  1471309 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020528: !O:=O:\
  1341443 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020538: !S:=S:\
   531496 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020548: !T:=T:\
   511547 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020558:
ALLUSERSPROFILE=C:\Documents and Settings\All Users
   511598 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020590: APPDATA=C:
\Documents and Settings\itdsmarn\Application Data
   511649 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x100205D0: AVENGINE=C:
\PROGRA~1\COMPUT~1\SCANEN~1
   511700 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020600: CLASSPATH="C:
\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.1_01\lib\ext\QTJava.zip"
   511751 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020648:
COLORFGBG=15;default;0
   501801 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020668:
COLORTERM=rxvt-xpm
   511852 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020680:
COMMONPROGRAMFILES=C:\Program Files\Common Files
   511903 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x100206B8:
COMPUTERNAME=FFWD10657
   501953 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x100206D8: COMSPEC=C:
\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe
   512004 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020700: CVSROOT
=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/cvs
   512055 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020740: DISPLAY=:0
   582113 [main] hostname 268 getwinenv: can't set native for HOME=
since no environ yet
   642177 [main] hostname 268 mount_info::conv_to_posix_path:
conv_to_posix_path (C:\cygwin\home\itdsmarn, no-keep-rel, no-add-slash)
   412218 [main] hostname 268 normalize_win32_path: C:
\cygwin\home\itdsmarn = normalize_win32_path (C:\cygwin\home\itdsmarn)
   372255 [main] hostname 268 mount_info::conv_to_posix_path:
/home/itdsmarn = conv_to_posix_path (C:\cygwin\home\itdsmarn)
   912346 [main] hostname 268 win_env::add_cache: posix /home/itdsmarn
   262372 [main] hostname 268 win_env::add_cache: native HOME=C:
\cygwin\home\itdsmarn
   312403 [main] hostname 268 posify: env var converted to
HOME=/home/itdsmarn
   502453 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020778:
HOME=/home/itdsmarn
   502503 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x100208C8: HOMEDRIVE=C:
   502553 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x100208E0: HOMEPATH=\
   502603 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x100208F0: INOCULAN=C:
\PROGRA~1\COMPUT~1\INOCUL~1
   512654 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020750: JAVA_HOME=C:
\java\j2sdk1.4.1_01
   512705 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020920: LOGONSERVER
=\\FFIRLNTEPDC
   502755 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020940: MAKE_MODE=unix
   502805 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020958: MANPATH
=:/usr/ssl/man
   512856 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020978:
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS=1
   502906 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x10020998:
NWLANGUAGE=ENGLISH
   512957 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x100209B0:
NWUSERNAME=itdsmarn
   503007 [main] hostname 268 environ_init: 0x100209C8:
OLDPWD=

Re: Cygwin setup crashes

[Max Bowsher]

Manu wrote:
> Anyway, I tried to build the CVS sources, but "setup" doesn't link:
>
> linking setup.exe
> [...]
> c:/Dev/Sources/Cygwin-Setup/build/libgetopt++/src/OptionSet.cc:76:
> undefined reference to `getopt_long'
> c:/Dev/Sources/Cygwin-Setup/build/libgetopt++/src/OptionSet.cc:91:
> undefined reference to `optarg'
> c:/Dev/Sources/Cygwin-Setup/build/libgetopt++/src/OptionSet.cc:95:
> undefined reference to `optind'
> c:/Dev/Sources/Cygwin-Setup/build/libgetopt++/src/OptionSet.cc:96:
> undefined reference to `optind'
> [..]
>
> Strange, since I have libgetopt installed.
>
> I have done "./libgetopt++/bootstrap.sh", then,
>
> "./configure -C --enable-dependencies --disable-shared \
> --build=i386-pc-mingw32 'CC=gcc -g' 'CXX=g++ -g' \
> --enable-maintainer-mode && make"
>
> libgetopt++/src/getopt.c is not compiled, my "MinGW/lib/getopt.a"
> is not linked with libgetopt++.

You are confused with your configure line. Your --build flag is very
incorrect.

Either: Drop the --build flag, use the rest as-is to build a cygwin1.dll
dependent version of setup.

Or: Use the configure line as-is from
http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin-apps/setup.html.

Max.


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Re: Cygwin setup crashes

[Max Bowsher]

Manu wrote:
> After a few editing in the Makefiles, (I don't have much time :)

See my other reply for how to avoid needing to do this.

> I've built setup.exe from CVS sources, with debug symbols.
> Dr. MinGW gives an interesting clue:
>
> 
> SETUP.EXE caused an Access Violation at location 00406816 in module
> SETUP.EXE Reading from location .
>
> Registers:
> eax= ebx=01199d50 ecx=0169ffbc edx=00a0 esi=01199d50
> edi=01064d64
> eip=00406816 esp=0169ba94 ebp=0169baa8 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz
> ac pe nc
> cs=015f  ss=0167  ds=0167  es=0167  fs=503f  gs=
> efl=00010212
>
> Call stack:
> 00406816  SETUP.EXE:00406816  compress_gz::destroy()
>  compress_gz.cc:472 ...
>  free (outbuf);
>if (original)
>> delete original;
>  }

Interesting indeed. Something very weird is happening, if a non-null pointer
if causing a segfault on being deleted. I wonder if it could be a
double-free. I'll fiddle with this.

Manu: Just to confirm, this is setup from HEAD of CVS, showing version 2.312
on it's splash page?
Also, could you send the output of 'find' run from your local package
directory? (as an attachment)

Max.


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Re: Advocacy

[Sam Edge]

Igor wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
in gmane.os.cygwin on Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:49:05 -0500 (EST):

> I believe the complaints were mostly about the *size* of the disclaimer,
> not about its content.  The content is reasonably standard and pretty
> redundant, IMO.  Which is why I proposed a way for people to allow
> filtering it out (by including, say, an "--IGNORE-LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW--"
> line in their signature).

"Redundant" is hardly the word. "Ludicrous" is perhaps better.

Last time I checked, it's not possible to force a non-disclosure
agreement or any other form of contract on someone just by having them
read it. Some sort of verbal or written consent is required ... at
least in the UK.

Thanks Nomura International plc, but since your legal department
doesn't understand this, I'll avoid any business dealings with you if
I can.

Right. This is deeply OT for [EMAIL PROTECTED] so I'll shut up again.

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Setup sugestion/annoyance

[Santos]

Hi. When will the Cygwin's setup have a option to maximize and/or 
resize the window of the setup itself? It's very anoying to scroll the 
bars all the time, and there are 2, the vertical and the horizontal 
ones! Please fix this.

Santos

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RE: Advocacy

[Dieter Meinert]

|=> "--IGNORE-LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW--"

One might rather write: 

"--Be-Aware-of-Any-Disclaimer-Below--" 
to avoid legal problems on the side of the sender

BTW by the addressee cygwin at cygwin dot com any usr of the list IS addressed. 
no need to inform the sender about any failure.

 Regards
Dieter  

|=> -Original Message-
|=> From: Sam Edge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|=> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:29 PM
|=> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|=> Subject: Re: Advocacy
|=> 
|=> 
|=> Igor wrote in
|=> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|=> in gmane.os.cygwin on Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:49:05 -0500 (EST):
|=> 
|=> > I believe the complaints were mostly about the *size* of 
|=> the disclaimer,
|=> > not about its content.  The content is reasonably 
|=> standard and pretty
|=> > redundant, IMO.  Which is why I proposed a way for people to allow
|=> > filtering it out (by including, say, an 
|=> "--IGNORE-LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW--"
|=> > line in their signature).
|=> 
|=> "Redundant" is hardly the word. "Ludicrous" is perhaps better.
|=> 
|=> Last time I checked, it's not possible to force a non-disclosure
|=> agreement or any other form of contract on someone just by 
|=> having them
|=> read it. Some sort of verbal or written consent is required ... at
|=> least in the UK.
|=> 
|=> Thanks Nomura International plc, but since your legal department
|=> doesn't understand this, I'll avoid any business dealings 
|=> with you if
|=> I can.
|=> 
|=> Right. This is deeply OT for [EMAIL PROTECTED] so I'll shut 
|=> up again.
|=> 

And the email bulks in response to this disclaimer exceed its size by far now.

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Re: Malloc array size limit

[Fabrizio Impagnatiello]

Thanks a lot.

I tried.
Sorry, but the suggestion to define the heap_chunk key in Windows registry did
not work. My application globally allocates about 560 Mbyte memory but no
single data structure can be larger than 128 MB.
IT is compiled with gcc 3.2-3 under cygwin 1.3.20-1 environment. Nevertheless,
if the run-time path is set to the cygwin1.dll version 1.3.12 I can run any
array sized program (no 384 MB limit!) without using any heap statement!!

So I believe that there is a bug in cygwin DLL since version 1.3.13.

If you have any other suggestion, Welcome!!

Bye from Italy



> See if this helps
> http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/setup-maxmem.html
>
> rlc
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Fabrizio Impagnatiello wrote:
>
> > I experienced run-time array memory allocation failure using cygwin1.dll
> > versions 1.3.14, 1.3.17, 1.3.18, 1.3.19, 1.3.20.
> > This trouble does not reveals using 1.3.12.
> >
> > In particular the largest allocable array (from both gcc and g77) size is
> > limited to about 128 MBytes.
> >
> > Christopher Faylor states that "Doug Lea malloc "was introduced in version
> > 1.3.13 for all malloc operations (see what's new). Is this new malloc
> > appropriate ??
> >
> > Fabrizio Impagnatiello
> > Alenia Spazio
> > Rome - Italy
> >
> >
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Re: Setup sugestion/annoyance

[jurgen . defurne]

I second that. The first thing that I always do is to try to resize the
installation dialog, then put up with all the scrolling around.

Jurgen









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Hi. When will the Cygwin's setup have a option to maximize and/or 
resize the window of the setup itself? It's very anoying to scroll the 
bars all the time, and there are 2, the vertical and the horizontal 
ones! Please fix this.

Santos


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RE: Control the cygwin terminal with escape sequences

[Igor Pechtchanski]

Philippe,

First off, there is no need to send the message directly to me -- I read
the list.  Hence the "Reply-To".

Secondly, I used the exact line you quoted in your message
(perl -e 'print "\033[H\033[J"').  It worked.
The only difference I can see is that you use ActiveState's perl, whereas
I use the Cygwin native perl.  I'm not even going to ask why (yet).

Did you try piping the output of the perl command to "od -c"?  What did it
show?  What is the value of your CYGWIN variable?  Are you running this in
an xterm, an rxvt, or a command window?  Did you attach the output of
"cygcheck -s -v -r" as indicated in ?  Please
provide the above information if you want people to be able to address
your problem.
Igor

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Philippe Verdret wrote:

> Hi Igor,
>
> After updating cygwin on my pc, i try again:
>
> % perl -e 'system("stty raw -echo") ; print "\e[H\e[J"'
>
> which doesn't clear the screen.
> I use the ActiveState Perl, 5.8.0, bash 2.05b.0(8) and cygwin-1.3.20-1.
> Can you send me a command line which work? I will try it.
>
> Many thanks,
> Philippe
>
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoye : lundi 3 mars 2003 16:52
> A : Philippe Verdret
> Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet : Re: Control the cygwin terminal with escape sequences
>
>
> Redirecting to the correct list.  Please remove  dot com> from replies.
>
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Philippe Verdret wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > i want to control the cygwin terminal with escape sequences generated
> > by a Perl program.
> >
> > I can clear the screen with the echo command:
> > % echo -e "\033[H\033[J"
> >
> > but if i write a small inline perl program, i can't:
> >
> > % perl -e 'print "\033[H\033[J"'
> >
> > This doesn't work even if i put the screen in 'raw mode' without echo
> > (with system('stty -echo raw') in the perl program).
> >
> > Can you help me?
> >
> > Philippe
>
> And answering:
>
> Philippe,
>
> Works for me (using cygwin-1.3.20, bash-2.05b-8 and perl-5.6.1)...  You
> might want to report your problem properly, as described in
> .  Also, check that your perl one-liner
> outputs exactly the right sequence (by piping it to "od -c", for example).
>   Igor

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RE: Control the cygwin terminal with escape sequences

[Igor Pechtchanski]

Philippe,

FYI, I just tried your command with ActiveState perl, and it works too,
provided you have "tty" in your CYGWIN environment variable.
Igor

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

> Philippe,
>
> First off, there is no need to send the message directly to me -- I read
> the list.  Hence the "Reply-To".
>
> Secondly, I used the exact line you quoted in your message
> (perl -e 'print "\033[H\033[J"').  It worked.
> The only difference I can see is that you use ActiveState's perl, whereas
> I use the Cygwin native perl.  I'm not even going to ask why (yet).
>
> Did you try piping the output of the perl command to "od -c"?  What did it
> show?  What is the value of your CYGWIN variable?  Are you running this in
> an xterm, an rxvt, or a command window?  Did you attach the output of
> "cygcheck -s -v -r" as indicated in ?  Please
> provide the above information if you want people to be able to address
> your problem.
> Igor
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Philippe Verdret wrote:
>
> > Hi Igor,
> >
> > After updating cygwin on my pc, i try again:
> >
> > % perl -e 'system("stty raw -echo") ; print "\e[H\e[J"'
> >
> > which doesn't clear the screen.
> > I use the ActiveState Perl, 5.8.0, bash 2.05b.0(8) and cygwin-1.3.20-1.
> > Can you send me a command line which work? I will try it.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Philippe
> >
> >
> > -Message d'origine-
> > De : Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Envoye : lundi 3 mars 2003 16:52
> > A : Philippe Verdret
> > Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Objet : Re: Control the cygwin terminal with escape sequences
> >
> >
> > Redirecting to the correct list.  Please remove  > dot com> from replies.
> >
> > On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Philippe Verdret wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > i want to control the cygwin terminal with escape sequences generated
> > > by a Perl program.
> > >
> > > I can clear the screen with the echo command:
> > > % echo -e "\033[H\033[J"
> > >
> > > but if i write a small inline perl program, i can't:
> > >
> > > % perl -e 'print "\033[H\033[J"'
> > >
> > > This doesn't work even if i put the screen in 'raw mode' without echo
> > > (with system('stty -echo raw') in the perl program).
> > >
> > > Can you help me?
> > >
> > > Philippe
> >
> > And answering:
> >
> > Philippe,
> >
> > Works for me (using cygwin-1.3.20, bash-2.05b-8 and perl-5.6.1)...  You
> > might want to report your problem properly, as described in
> > .  Also, check that your perl one-liner
> > outputs exactly the right sequence (by piping it to "od -c", for example).
> >   Igor

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Re: cygwin snap 20030223 hangs with bleadperl

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, H.Merijn Brand wrote:

> On Tue 04 Mar 2003 06:01, Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 26, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:20:02PM +0100, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
> > >On Tue 25 Feb 2003 14:15, "H.Merijn Brand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> ../ext/IO/lib/IO/t/io_udp..ok
> > >> ../ext/IO/lib/IO/t/io_unix.ok 1/5
> > >>
> > >> 20030220 still OK
> > >
> > >20030225 also hangs
> > >
> > >(Note that I'm still not on the list)
> >
> > Is it better now?
> >
> > cgf
>
> Yep.
>
> CYGWIN_NT-5.0 PC09 1.3.21s(0.77/3/2) 20030302 23:00:55 i686 unknown unknown Cygwin
>
> Completed the smoke. I was discussing a longstanding Cygwin issue yesterday
> with some other smokers and we all agreed that there is still a glitch in
> cygwin that /we/ think cygwin is to blame for.
>
> Running the complete test from the prompt completes without error, but when
> started from a script in the background, there are still messages that get a
>  added and unexpectedly yield  instead of plain , causing
> these tests to fail: Expected Foo, got Foo
>
> $CYGWIN is "tty ntsec binary"
^^
Umm, there is no such setting in the CYGWIN environment variable.  Perhaps
you meant to say "binmode"?

Igor

> If you can fix this, you can add Cygwin to one of the systems where smokes on
> bleadperl yield a full-O (all OK) report.
>
> Enjoy, have FUN! H.Merijn

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Re: cygwin snap 20030223 hangs with bleadperl

[H.Merijn Brand]

On Tue 04 Mar 2003 16:23, Igor Pechtchanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
> 
> > On Tue 04 Mar 2003 06:01, Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Feb 26, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:20:02PM +0100, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
> > > >On Tue 25 Feb 2003 14:15, "H.Merijn Brand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> ../ext/IO/lib/IO/t/io_udp..ok
> > > >> ../ext/IO/lib/IO/t/io_unix.ok 1/5
> > > >>
> > > >> 20030220 still OK
> > > >
> > > >20030225 also hangs
> > > >
> > > >(Note that I'm still not on the list)
> > >
> > > Is it better now?
> > >
> > > cgf
> >
> > Yep.
> >
> > CYGWIN_NT-5.0 PC09 1.3.21s(0.77/3/2) 20030302 23:00:55 i686 unknown unknown Cygwin
> >
> > Completed the smoke. I was discussing a longstanding Cygwin issue yesterday
> > with some other smokers and we all agreed that there is still a glitch in
> > cygwin that /we/ think cygwin is to blame for.
> >
> > Running the complete test from the prompt completes without error, but when
> > started from a script in the background, there are still messages that get a
> >  added and unexpectedly yield  instead of plain , causing
> > these tests to fail: Expected Foo, got Foo
> >
> > $CYGWIN is "tty ntsec binary"
> ^^
> Umm, there is no such setting in the CYGWIN environment variable.  Perhaps
> you meant to say "binmode"?

Yes I did. Sorry for the confusion. To be sure, I checked :)

> 
>   Igor
> 
> > If you can fix this, you can add Cygwin to one of the systems where smokes on
> > bleadperl yield a full-O (all OK) report.


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Re: Malloc array size limit

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Fabrizio Impagnatiello wrote:

> I experienced run-time array memory allocation failure using cygwin1.dll
> versions 1.3.14, 1.3.17, 1.3.18, 1.3.19, 1.3.20.
> This trouble does not reveals using 1.3.12.
>
> In particular the largest allocable array (from both gcc and g77) size is
> limited to about 128 MBytes.
>
> Christopher Faylor states that "Doug Lea malloc "was introduced in version
> 1.3.13 for all malloc operations (see what's new). Is this new malloc
> appropriate ??
>
> Fabrizio Impagnatiello
> Alenia Spazio
> Rome - Italy
>
> [25-line disclaimer snipped]

Yeah, nothing beats a long disclaimer, except, perhaps, a long disclaimer
in two languages...  And to think it could have been snipped by the
software...
Fabrizio, nothing personal.
Igor
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PUTENV works fine if debugged with insight gdb but fails if in a standalone program !

[gilles bourgeois]

hi folks,
i am using getenv/putenv from stdlib (my source comes from UNIX world).
the point is that getenv works fine, but I CANNOT modify variables with PUTENV !!
Actually, if I debug with "insight gdb" a little foo.c using setenv , it works fine !!!
I really do not undestand why (I suppose it is a question of shell environment) , so 
I wonder if some of you ever succeed with a simple putenv wriiten in a tiny C program ?
thanks 
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Re: Advocacy

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 02:00:19AM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
>Either one of us misunderstands the phrase "the sender", or YOWTWYWT.  Or you're
>trying to backpedal.

Ok.  Let me clarify.  I didn't actually read the disclaimer.  In my
addled mind I thought "notify the sender" meant notify the sender's
company.  I would never advocate complaining to some hapless victim of a
company policy.  Yes, I wasn't thinking clearly, no, I am not back
pedalling.

I was COMPLETELY WRONG to have implied that the *sender* should be
contacted and I, again, apologize.

>>I've previously floated the idea of filtering out these disclaimers on
>>the overseers at sources dot redhat.com mailing list and no one thought
>>it was a very good idea.  So my threat to do so was just an idle one.
>
>Idle threats and inciting people to harass contributors, great policy.

Where in the world is this coming from?  Did you just wake up this morning
and decide you were going to be a jerk?

I did indicate that I was reconsidering implementing Igor's suggestion
in another message.  Maybe you missed it.  So, once again I must
acknowledge the fact that I wasn't entirely clear.  I was wrong.
Whatever you like.  I am now again thinking about ways to do this.

>Really I'm just jealous though.  Man, it would be *sooo* sweet if the
>only thing I had to worry about in my life was a few lines of
>boilerplate text on 0.0001% of the emails I get daily! That would
>indeed be the life.
>
>Jesus Juvenile Christ.
 ^
   

Hmm.  I'm sure this is one of those self-deprecating attempts at humor;
using profanity to call someone juvenile.  Tastes in humor vary widely,
I guess.

It's rather "ironic" that you have so many important things to worry
about but you still take time out of your busy schedule for name
calling.  I guess that must be pretty high up on your priority list.

cgf

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Re: Cygwin setup crashes

[Pavel Tsekov]

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Max Bowsher wrote:

> > Call stack:
> > 00406816  SETUP.EXE:00406816  compress_gz::destroy()
> >  compress_gz.cc:472 ...
> >  free (outbuf);
> >if (original)
> >> delete original;
> >  }
> 
> Interesting indeed. Something very weird is happening, if a non-null pointer
> if causing a segfault on being deleted. I wonder if it could be a
> double-free. I'll fiddle with this.
> 
> Manu: Just to confirm, this is setup from HEAD of CVS, showing version 2.312
> on it's splash page?
> Also, could you send the output of 'find' run from your local package
> directory? (as an attachment)

The line numbers match those of setup from HEAD. I guess the parent 
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Re: cygwin and other open source licenses

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:12:55AM +0100, Kasper Nielsen wrote:
>I was just browsing Slashdot and came across this interview with
>Professor Eben Moglen.  (see below) I?m currently doing a project at my
>university that uses the cygwin.dll for windows compatibility.  My
>project is licensed under some special open source university license
>like most universities has.  However after having read the interview it
>seems to me that I?m violating the license by not using the GPL for my
>work but some other open source license with my university requires.
>Am I right?

The cygwin license is mentioned at http://cygwin.com/licensing.html .
Please read that page.  If you have questions after reading that then
ask them here.

cgf

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Re: sudo and runas

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Jon Ewing wrote:

>
> >> > Jon,
> >> >
> >> > How about describing the symptoms?
> >>
> >> I gotta remember the verbage of that one. Short, sweet and to the point.
> >> [snip]
> >> (I must be getting mean :-)
> >
> >Hmm, DTFS, eh?
> >
> >Sorry, sorry, no more gratuitous acronyms...  Bad brain, bad! ;-)
> >   Igor
>
> Thankyou for your comments everyone...
> [snip]
> Any other useful information that I could supply?
> And DTFS?

*groan* I was hoping I wouldn't have to explain that one...
Jon, it's a *gratuitous* acronym.  Let it lie. Please... :-D
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Re: compiling setup.exe (was Re: Distributing .ISO files.)

[Randall R Schulz]

Ronald,

What is the real nature of your objection to my including that content 
here? Surely it didn't captivate you into reading it all and hence 
wasting your time, did it? If you think it takes up too much space, 
then why didn't you edit it out of your gratuitous reply?

Randall Schulz

At 02:26 2003-03-04, Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote:
Ehm.. do you really think we're interested in the output of upx --help
here? I mean: "UPX - Ultimate Packer for eXecutables; see
 for details" would have been more than
enough, don't you think?
rlc


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RE: Cygwin and other open source licenses

[Robb, Sam]

> However after having read the interview it seems to me that I’m 
> violating the license by not using the GPL for my work but some other 
> open source license with my university requires.
> Am I right?

Time for a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list?  At least
we could kick these types of discussions into another
list, where those with a passion for debating the finer
points of legal issues could wrangle and argue to their
heart's content...

-Samrobb

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"reboot now" from console fails

[Richard Duran]

I hadn't see this in the FAQ or the mailing lists. At first I thought
this was only via sshd, but even when I'm at the console, a window pops
up with the following:


  End Program - /cygdrive/c/dev <<-- title bar

Windows cannot end this program. It may need more time
to complete an operation.

To return to Windows and check the status of the
program, click Cancel.

If you choose to end the program immediately, you will lose
any unsaved data. To end the program now, click End
Now.
=

Any ideas?

Regards,
-richard duran


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Re: "reboot now" from console fails

[Randall R Schulz]

Richard,

I simply do this:

% reboot -r now; exit

Randall Schulz

At 08:23 2003-03-04, Richard Duran wrote:
I hadn't see this in the FAQ or the mailing lists. At first I thought
this was only via sshd, but even when I'm at the console, a window pops
up with the following:

  End Program - /cygdrive/c/dev <<-- title bar
Windows cannot end this program. It may need more time
to complete an operation.
To return to Windows and check the status of the
program, click Cancel.
If you choose to end the program immediately, you will lose
any unsaved data. To end the program now, click End
Now.
=
Any ideas?

Regards,
-richard duran


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Re: why is bash trying to access my DNS? [OT]

[John P. Rouillard]

>On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 23:59, Randall R Schulz wrote:
>> Geoffrey,
>>=20
>> Exactly what sneaky data can get sent in a DNS request?
>> [...]
>
>Actually, plenty.  Historically, Bind has been easily hacked.  Although
>it's been a while since a good vulnerablity was found in Bind, that
>doesn't mean there's not an unknown hole in it which could be exploited.
>
>However, in order to exploit such a hole, the attacking system has to
>be, in one way or another, "owned".  Anybody with the presence of mind
>to be running ZoneAlarm (or something similar) would certianly know if
>there system(s) had been compromised in such a fashion.

Why is everybody assuming that a random host on the internet is running
a dns server on port 53? Consider this senario:

  I put my machine on the internet. I then put a udp listener at port
  53.  I then distribute software that knows how to create a udp packet
  to port 53 on my host. I can send anything I want to to that port,
  files, passwords, registry entries... Just because its going to a
  DNS port does not mean that its DNS data. It just means that its
  data for the service at that particular IP Address/Port number.

Now if you filter to certain hosts that you KNOW are running dns on
port 53, then that is different. However that means you must keep
updating the filter lists since I know my ISP changes my DNS servers
almost every time I dial up. (My guess is they have a couple of DNS
server per class C subnet/POP, but that's just a guess).

Running ZoneAlarm gives you a hint that something bad may be going on
when a program that shouldn't be making DNS queries starts making
them.  Or alternatively starts making queries tothe DNS port
on joe blow's computer rather than a local network computer.

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Re: "reboot now" from console fails

[Richard Duran]

Interesting idea. Unfortunately, it doesn't make a difference (remote or
console). Does the CYGWIN variable have any impact on this? If so,
where, when, and to what value should I set it? (I only bring this up
because of the headache I ran into when setting up cron.

-richard

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> 
> I simply do this:
> 
> % reboot -r now; exit
> 
> Randall Schulz
> 
> 
> At 08:23 2003-03-04, Richard Duran wrote:
> >I hadn't see this in the FAQ or the mailing lists. At first I thought
> >this was only via sshd, but even when I'm at the console, a window pops
> >up with the following:
> >
> >
> >   End Program - /cygdrive/c/dev <<-- title bar
> >
> > Windows cannot end this program. It may need more time
> > to complete an operation.
> >
> > To return to Windows and check the status of the
> > program, click Cancel.
> >
> > If you choose to end the program immediately, you will lose
> > any unsaved data. To end the program now, click End
> > Now.
> >=
> >
> >Any ideas?
> >
> >Regards,
> >-richard duran
> 
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Re: tetex installation wierdness.

[Jan Nieuwenhuizen]

"Janus Nicolay Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am experiencing a problem installing the tetex LaTeX distribution
> on one machine (called dkms1301) but not the other (called test).

What windows versions are those running?

> When running the Cygwin setup program I select the following
> packages:
> * tetex
[from the log: tetex-bin is selected automatically.  good]
> * tetex-base
> * tetex-extra
> * ghostscript

> On test the installation works, but on dkms1301 some bits seem to be
> missing, including the 'latex' symlink in /usr/bin.

Can you be more explicit about 'some bits'?  The symlink is not in the
package, it should be created during postinstall, by
/etc/postinstall/post-texmf.sh.

> Has anybody experienced this and if so, what can I do to solve it?

There were complaints before about the missing latex symlink, but I've
not managed to get a useful bugreport (that's why I'm including the
symlink in the new tetex-bin package).

There are several things you can do.  Last week, new tetex packages
were released.  You can rerun setup.exe and your problems may go away
(if you need xdvi, see
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-03/msg00045.html)

If you cannot or do not want to update tetex:

  * Make sure that you have all dependencies installed:

   ash clear cygutils cygwin ed diffutils fileutils findutils gawk
   grep jpeg libkpathsea3 libncurses6 libpng12 perl sed sh-utils
   textutils termcap tiff zlib

esp. packages from base, that were missing from the previous tetex
release, ie:

   clear diffutils fileutils findutils gawk sh-utils textutils

  * If you're updating tetex from an earlier version, you may need to
uninstall and then reinstall cygutils

  * Reinstall tetex-base (or run /etc/postinstall/post-texmf.sh[.done])

  * If the symlink is all you're missing, you can create it by hand:

ln -s /usr/bin/tex.exe /usr/bin/latex.exe

Greetings,
Jan.

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Re: "reboot now" from console fails

[Randall R Schulz]

Richard,

Well, it's only going to work if you have a single Cygwin shell window 
open. That's usually the case for me. (I've never tried it with X 
running.) For the record, by CYGWIN variable is "binmode ntsec" (and 
now the "ntsec" is redundant--I guess it's just a leftover of times gone by).

Randall Schulz

At 08:40 2003-03-04, Richard Duran wrote:
Interesting idea. Unfortunately, it doesn't make a difference (remote or
console). Does the CYGWIN variable have any impact on this? If so,
where, when, and to what value should I set it? (I only bring this up
because of the headache I ran into when setting up cron.
-richard

On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 10:34, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Richard,
>
> I simply do this:
>
> % reboot -r now; exit
>
> Randall Schulz




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motif libs

[Darbin Rowland-p95674]

I have the rpm files for i386 motif but I can't install them because I don't have rpm.
 
How do you isntall rpms on cygwin? 
 
Thanks, 
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Re: "reboot now" from console fails

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:40:47AM -0600, Richard Duran wrote:
> Interesting idea. Unfortunately, it doesn't make a difference (remote or
> console). Does the CYGWIN variable have any impact on this? If so,
> where, when, and to what value should I set it? (I only bring this up
> because of the headache I ran into when setting up cron.

Try the -f option.

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Re: "reboot now" from console fails

[Richard Duran]

I was considering that until I did a regular windows Start->Shutdown
sequence and saw the same window popup. I hadn't seen that behavior
before, so I'll chalk it up to something else at this point. I had run a
"ps -efW | grep cyg" to look for any anomalies but didn't find any...and
this was my first attempt to shutdown windows from withing Cygwin.

-richard



On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 11:11, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:40:47AM -0600, Richard Duran wrote:
> > Interesting idea. Unfortunately, it doesn't make a difference (remote or
> > console). Does the CYGWIN variable have any impact on this? If so,
> > where, when, and to what value should I set it? (I only bring this up
> > because of the headache I ran into when setting up cron.
> 
> Try the -f option.
> 
> Corinna


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RE: Advocacy

[Steve Fairbairn]

> -Original Message-
> From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 03 March 2003 17:13
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> "--LONG DISCLAIMER--"?..

Seems like a wonderful solution to me...

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RE: Advocacy

[Igor Pechtchanski]

Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- "
would be better...  So, people, don't change your signatures yet, until
this is finalized.
Chris, would you like me to take a look at the filtering, or are you
already working on it?
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Steve Fairbairn wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 03 March 2003 17:13
> >
> > "--LONG DISCLAIMER--"?..
>
> Seems like a wonderful solution to me...
>
> ~Steve.
>
> --LONG DISCLAIMER--
> [disclaimer snipped]

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Re: Advocacy

[Joshua Daniel Franklin]

> Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- "
> would be better...  So, people, don't change your signatures yet, until
> this is finalized.

I would prefer something without the word "DISCLAIMER" so that I 
could configure it to also remove non-disclaimer ads from certain
parties (see below), but that wouldn't confuse other people I email 
too much if I left it on my signature permanently. 





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--IGNORE-BELOW--

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RE: [PATCH] libtool patch for direct-linking-to-dll

[Ralf Habacker]

> [BTW, Ralf, patches to libtool don't belong on cygwin-apps.  It's not a
> packaging issue, a packaging-policy issue, nor a setup issue.  This
> thread belongs on the main cygwin list.]

I apologize for this mistake. Sometime it seems that I have too many things in
my head. :-)

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Re: Advocacy

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote:

> > Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- "
> > would be better...  So, people, don't change your signatures yet, until
> > this is finalized.
>
> I would prefer something without the word "DISCLAIMER" so that I
> could configure it to also remove non-disclaimer ads from certain
> parties (see below), but that wouldn't confuse other people I email
> too much if I left it on my signature permanently.
>
> =
> --IGNORE-BELOW--

Joshua,

Unfortunately, people with company disclaimers would probably prefer
something without the word "IGNORE", lest they be misunderstood by
overeager company watchdogs...
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Re: Advocacy

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 12:39:57PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- "
>would be better...  So, people, don't change your signatures yet, until
>this is finalized.
>Chris, would you like me to take a look at the filtering, or are you
>already working on it?

I think it would be an extremely long learning curve for you to learn how
to do this with ezmlm + my spam blocking script.  I know how to do this.
It just is a matter of cycles.

My job has changed for the third or fourth time in the last year so my
degree of tuitness is low right now.  Hopefully that will change as I
come up to speed on my new responsibilities.

cgf

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Re: Advocacy

[Joshua Daniel Franklin]

--- Igor Pechtchanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote:
> 
> > > Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- "
> > > would be better...  So, people, don't change your signatures yet, until
> > > this is finalized.
> >
> > I would prefer something without the word "DISCLAIMER" so that I
> > could configure it to also remove non-disclaimer ads from certain
> > parties (see below), but that wouldn't confuse other people I email
> > too much if I left it on my signature permanently.
> >
> > =
> > --IGNORE-BELOW--
> 
> Joshua,
> 
> Unfortunately, people with company disclaimers would probably prefer
> something without the word "IGNORE", lest they be misunderstood by
> overeager company watchdogs...

Hmm... how about something totoally innocuous like

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RE: Advocacy

[Habermann, David (DA)]

How about --End of signature--  or  --End of message-- ??

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Re: Advocacy

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 01:38:31PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote:
>
>> > Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- "
>> > would be better...  So, people, don't change your signatures yet, until
>> > this is finalized.
>>
>> I would prefer something without the word "DISCLAIMER" so that I
>> could configure it to also remove non-disclaimer ads from certain
>> parties (see below), but that wouldn't confuse other people I email
>> too much if I left it on my signature permanently.
>>
>> =
>> --IGNORE-BELOW--
>
>Joshua,
>
>Unfortunately, people with company disclaimers would probably prefer
>something without the word "IGNORE", lest they be misunderstood by
>overeager company watchdogs...

It almost seems like there is a good use for mime lurking here somewhere.
Although I did say that we don't strip mime attachments, it is possible
to turn this on.  If we had something like an X-mime-disclaimer type
I could have the mailing list software strip that automatically.

Then it would be up to the sender to figure out how to get the trailer
to show up in the message.  Hmm.  Maybe not a good idea after all.

How about something like --END OF MESSAGE--?

cgf

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Re: Fw: Creating an ssh key with ssh-keygen

[Francis Litterio]

Joshua S. Abbott wrote:

> Anyone know how to use the -t switch with ssh-keygen??

Like this:

bash$ ssh-keygen -t dsa


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Re: Advocacy

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 04, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:38:31PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> >On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote:
> >
> >> > Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- "
> >> > would be better...  So, people, don't change your signatures yet, until
> >> > this is finalized.
> >>
> >> I would prefer something without the word "DISCLAIMER" so that I
> >> could configure it to also remove non-disclaimer ads from certain
> >> parties (see below), but that wouldn't confuse other people I email
> >> too much if I left it on my signature permanently.
> >>
> >> =
> >> --IGNORE-BELOW--
> >
> >Joshua,
> >
> >Unfortunately, people with company disclaimers would probably prefer
> >something without the word "IGNORE", lest they be misunderstood by
> >overeager company watchdogs...
>
> It almost seems like there is a good use for mime lurking here somewhere.
> Although I did say that we don't strip mime attachments, it is possible
> to turn this on.  If we had something like an X-mime-disclaimer type
> I could have the mailing list software strip that automatically.
>
> Then it would be up to the sender to figure out how to get the trailer
> to show up in the message.  Hmm.  Maybe not a good idea after all.

Yeah, I modeled the suggestion after MIME, but it seems most disclaimers
are appended automatically as part of the body of the message, so MIME is
no good...

> How about something like --END OF MESSAGE--?
> cgf

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Habermann, David (DA) wrote:

> How about --End of signature--  or  --End of message-- ??

Yep, looks like we have a winner (proposed by 2 people independently)...
I suggest using "--end of message-- " (note the space), case-insensitive,
on a line by itself.
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Re: Cygwin setup crashes

[Max Bowsher]

Manu wrote:
> After a few editing in the Makefiles, (I don't have much time :)
> I've built setup.exe from CVS sources, with debug symbols.

Please try this patch (against current CVS):

Index: compress_gz.cc
===
RCS file: /home/max/cvsmirror/cygwin-apps-cvs/setup/compress_gz.cc,v
retrieving revision 2.7
diff -u -p -r2.7 compress_gz.cc
--- compress_gz.cc 9 Nov 2002 13:33:15 - 2.7
+++ compress_gz.cc 4 Mar 2003 19:06:47 -
@@ -63,12 +63,6 @@ compress_gz::compress_gz (io_stream * pa
 void
 compress_gz::construct (io_stream * parent, const char *openmode)
 {
-  if (!parent)
-{
-  z_err = Z_STREAM_ERROR;
-  return;
-}
-
   original = parent;
   peeklen = 0;
   int err;
END-OF-PATCH

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Re: Cygwin setup crashes

[Pavel Tsekov]

Why have you modified the patch ?

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Max Bowsher wrote:

> > After a few editing in the Makefiles, (I don't have much time :)
> > I've built setup.exe from CVS sources, with debug symbols.
> 
> Please try this patch (against current CVS):
> 
> Index: compress_gz.cc
> ===
> RCS file: /home/max/cvsmirror/cygwin-apps-cvs/setup/compress_gz.cc,v
> retrieving revision 2.7
> diff -u -p -r2.7 compress_gz.cc
> --- compress_gz.cc 9 Nov 2002 13:33:15 - 2.7
> +++ compress_gz.cc 4 Mar 2003 19:06:47 -
> @@ -63,12 +63,6 @@ compress_gz::compress_gz (io_stream * pa
>  void
>  compress_gz::construct (io_stream * parent, const char *openmode)
>  {
> -  if (!parent)
> -{
> -  z_err = Z_STREAM_ERROR;
> -  return;
> -}
> -
>original = parent;
>peeklen = 0;
>int err;
> END-OF-PATCH


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[build failure] xemacs-21.5-b11 on Win2000+Cygwin

[David A. Cobb]

I first sent this to the Xemacs lists, where I didn't get any response.
The error is so totally disastrous that a release should not have 
happened if this bites every Cygwin installation.

Which makes me suspect my Cygwin is broken.

How can I tell?  Specifically, how do I tell what the configure proc was 
trying to do when it got an error compiling "junk.c"

Sitting around waiting out the blizzard, I figured it would be a good 
time to see about compiling Xemacs-21.5-b11.

Starting with what should have been a simple build . . .

+ make clean
make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
+ ../configure i686-pc-cygwin --compiler=gcc --without-x --extra-verbose 
--with-site-lisp=yes --package-path=/usr/local/lib/xemacs/ --with-pop 
--debug --error-checking=all
   Defining PACKAGE_PATH_USER_DEFINED
checking whether ln -s works... yes
   Defining EMACS_MAJOR_VERSION = 21
   Defining EMACS_MINOR_VERSION = 5
   Defining EMACS_BETA_VERSION = 11
   Defining XEMACS_CODENAME = "cabbage"

One small surprise is the following early error message in sysout 
(rather than configure.log) . . .
checking for GNU libc... no
Extracting information from the machine- and system-dependent headers...
conftest.c:44: parse error before `=' token
   Defining SYSTEM_TYPE = "cygwin_nt-5.0"
libs_machine = ''

The configure ends horribly with:

   Appending "Makefile.in" to $ac_output_files
   Appending "lib-src/Makefile.in" to $ac_output_files
   Appending "src/Makefile.in:src/Makefile.in.in:src/depend" to 
$ac_output_files
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile.in
creating lib-src/Makefile.in
creating src/Makefile.in
creating src/paths.h
creating lib-src/config.values
creating src/config.h
creating lwlib/config.h
lwlib/config.h is unchanged
creating ./Makefile
junk.c:19: parse error before string constant 
<
creating ./GNUmakefile
junk.c:16: parse error before string constant
creating lib-src/Makefile
junk.c:7: parse error before string constant
creating lib-src/GNUmakefile
junk.c:7: parse error before string constant
creating src/Makefile
junk.c:7: parse error before string constant
creating src/GNUmakefile
junk.c:7: parse error before string constant

And all of ./Makefile & ./GNUmakefile are empty. (0 bytes)




HOST=i686 MSWin2000Pro Cygwin . . .
   Cygwin DLL version info:
   DLL version: 1.3.20
   DLL epoch: 19
   DLL bad signal mask: 19005
   DLL old termios: 5
   DLL malloc env: 28
   API major: 0
   API minor: 73
   Shared data: 3
   DLL identifier: cygwin1
   Mount registry: 2
   Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
   Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
   Program options name: Program Options
   Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
   Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
   Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
   Cygdrive default prefix:
   Build date: Sat Feb 8 12:10:49 EST 2003
   Shared id: cygwin1S3
bash-2.05b $ gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 3.2 20020927 (prerelease)
Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
bash-2.05b $

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Re: Cygwin setup crashes

[Max Bowsher]

Pavel Tsekov wrote:
> Why have you modified the patch ?

So that it applies cleanly against setup HEAD.

Your original patch contains 2 hunks:
1) remove some code
2) add it back later in the function

Hunk 2 has been comitted to cvs HEAD, but Hunk 1 has not.

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Re: Cygwin setup crashes

[Pavel Tsekov]

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Max Bowsher wrote:

> Pavel Tsekov wrote:
> > Why have you modified the patch ?
> 
> So that it applies cleanly against setup HEAD.
> 
> Your original patch contains 2 hunks:
> 1) remove some code
> 2) add it back later in the function
> 
> Hunk 2 has been comitted to cvs HEAD, but Hunk 1 has not.

Sorry, IOWTWIWT :)


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remote cygwin/sshd multiuser conflict with console login

[James D Below]

Hi Everyone.

I am in the process of setting up remote access to our W2K server(terminal 
services enabled) via ssh.

I have sshd up and running and users can login remotely to the server. Sshd 
is also running under an account with network access (not SYSTEM)

The problem is that if a user is logged in at the console, the users that 
login via ssh will inherit the network drive mappings from the console. 
That wouldn't be so bad but when the ssh users disconnect the drives (net 
use X: /d), the console users drives are also disconnected.

Does anyone know why this happens and how one might work around this?
Also, the users that use a terminal service connection (RDP), there drive 
mappings don't interfere with the ssh sessions.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

thanks.

James Below  Phone - 216-433-6508
RS Information Systems, Inc. Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NASA Glenn Research Center
21000 Brookpark Road
Mailstop 142-1
Cleveland, OH 44135

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1.3.20-1 CYGWIN ; csh,bash and ./config

[Konstantinos Makrodimitris]

Hi,

I am trying to run a configure file
./config  Cygwin-i686
in order then to :
cd Cygwin-i686
make
The file “config” is like:
_
#!/bin/csh -f
goto begin
syntax:
 echo ''
 echo 'Usage: config [debug] [tcl] [fftw] [/][.comment]'
 echo 'Environment variable NAMD_BUILD_BASE may point to scratch 
directory.'
 echo ''
 echo ': '
 ( cd arch ; ls -1 *.arch |sed -e 's/\.arch//' | egrep -v 'template' | pr 
-3 -t)
 echo ''
 exit 1

begin:
 if ($#argv < 1) goto syntax
 if ( $1 == debug ) then
   set use_debug = 1
   shift
 else
   set use_debug = 0
 endif
.. .
_
I take:

bash: ./config: /bin/csh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory

Changing the first line of the “config” in sh mode
#!/bin/sh –f
I take:

$ sh ./config Cygwin-i686
goto: not found
syntax:: not found
Usage: config [debug] [tcl] [fftw] [/][.comment]
Environment variable NAMD_BUILD_BASE may point to scratch directory.
Also
ln -s /bin/bash.exe /bin/sh.exe
didn’t work
Could you please give me your advice.

My Best,
Konstantinos Makrodimitris




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Malloc array size limit (2)

[Fabrizio Impagnatiello]

Again on same issue.
if I compile the following source with -mno-cygwin option, the EXE code
allocating up to 1 GByte runs good.

#define Meg 1078516
int a[220*Meg];
int main(int *argc, char **argv)
{
int i;

for (i=0; i<220*Meg; i++) {
a[i] = 102 + i;
}
printf("A[1]=%d\n",a[1]);
return 0;
}

If the option is removed, the cygwin1.dll fails.

Fabrizio Impagnatiello
Alenia Spazio S.p.A.
Rome - Italy

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Re: Malloc array size limit (2)

[Max Bowsher]

Fabrizio Impagnatiello wrote:
> Again on same issue.
> if I compile the following source with -mno-cygwin option, the EXE
> code allocating up to 1 GByte runs good.

> If the option is removed, the cygwin1.dll fails.

Well, obviously, if you don't use cygwin, then you don't get any limits it
imposes. I suggest you try setting heap_chunk_in_mb using the *exact*
regtool invocation given here:
http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/setup-maxmem.html

And then *make sure you have closed all cygwin processes*. Reboot if
necessary. Then retry.

Max.


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Re: Advocacy

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On 03 Mar 2003, Igor Pechtchanski  wrote:
>
> > P.S. Note that we don't want to use "-- " as the separator
> > string, unless we want to filter out people's signatures as
> > well.
>
> That sounds like an excellent idea to me, or maybe just snip
> everything over 4 lines.

Hmm, and here I am with my 8-line signature...

Seriously, though, I'm a firm believer in freedom of speech.  If people
*want* to include 50-line disclaimers in their signature (and take the
resulting abuse), I don't think we have the right to stop them.  I was
proposing a way for people to get rid of the annoying things required by
company policy that they *don't* want in their messages (and currently
have no way to remove).
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Re: 1.3.20-1 CYGWIN ; csh,bash and ./config

[Igor Pechtchanski]

Konstantinos,

First off, the script is written for csh.  Why would you expect sh or bash
to be able to interpret it?  These shells use different syntax.

The original script failed because you don't have csh installed.  Cygwin
does not have a "csh" package, but it does have a "tcsh" package that
makes /bin/csh a symbolic link to /bin/tcsh.  Please install the "tcsh"
package.  If you do have it installed, something is corrupted in your
installation, please re-install it using setup.exe.  Note that you don't
need to reinstall Cygwin, just the "tcsh" package.
Igor
P.S. FYI, there is also an "ash" package that provides a "real" /bin/sh.

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Konstantinos Makrodimitris wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to run a configure file
> ./config  Cygwin-i686
> in order then to :
>
> cd Cygwin-i686
> make
>
> The file config is like:
> _
> #!/bin/csh -f
> goto begin
> syntax:
>   echo ''
>   echo 'Usage: config [debug] [tcl] [fftw] [/][.comment]'
>   echo 'Environment variable NAMD_BUILD_BASE may point to scratch directory.'
>   echo ''
>   echo ': '
>   ( cd arch ; ls -1 *.arch |sed -e 's/\.arch//' | egrep -v 'template' | pr -3 -t)
>   echo ''
>   exit 1
>
> begin:
>   if ($#argv < 1) goto syntax
>   if ( $1 == debug ) then
> set use_debug = 1
> shift
>   else
> set use_debug = 0
>   endif
> .. .
> _
>
> I take:
>
> bash: ./config: /bin/csh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
>
> Changing the first line of the config in sh mode
> #!/bin/sh f
>
> I take:
>
> $ sh ./config Cygwin-i686
> goto: not found
> syntax:: not found
> Usage: config [debug] [tcl] [fftw] [/][.comment]
> Environment variable NAMD_BUILD_BASE may point to scratch directory.
>
> Also
> ln -s /bin/bash.exe /bin/sh.exe
> didnt work
>
> Could you please give me your advice.
>
> My Best,
> Konstantinos Makrodimitris

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Re: 1.3.20-1 CYGWIN ; csh,bash and ./config

[Max Bowsher]

Konstantinos Makrodimitris wrote:
> I am trying to run a configure file
> ./config  Cygwin-i686

> The file “config” is like:
> _
> #!/bin/csh -f

> Changing the first line of the “config” in sh mode
> #!/bin/sh –f

You do realize that csh and sh are totally different, right?
There is a csh-type shell for Cygwin, see the tcsh package.

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Re: Problem compiling Perl Tk800.024

[Gerrit P. Haase]

Hallo Dr. Zell,

> By the way I'm using perl-5.8.0. (Does anyone know why
> all the man pages and perl scripts in /bin have CRLF's ?)

You're the first to report this, I'll take a look ASAP, if
there are CRLF's, then this is a bug.


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Is this OK with the GPL?

[John Morrison]

New Windows Installers
* Safely install Cygwin with its environment automatically configured
for Windows OS machines.
* The Uninstaller features cleanup of registry settings and environment
variables.
* All toolsuites are consistent (Stout’s Law) in how you install them.


With all the comments wrt GPL and licensing...

J.


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Re: "reboot now" from console fails

[Richard Duran]

Works fine now...go figure.

Thanks for your time.

-richard


On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 11:30, Richard Duran wrote:
> I was considering that until I did a regular windows Start->Shutdown
> sequence and saw the same window popup. I hadn't seen that behavior
> before, so I'll chalk it up to something else at this point. I had run a
> "ps -efW | grep cyg" to look for any anomalies but didn't find any...and
> this was my first attempt to shutdown windows from withing Cygwin.
> 
> -richard
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 11:11, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:40:47AM -0600, Richard Duran wrote:
> > > Interesting idea. Unfortunately, it doesn't make a difference (remote or
> > > console). Does the CYGWIN variable have any impact on this? If so,
> > > where, when, and to what value should I set it? (I only bring this up
> > > because of the headache I ran into when setting up cron.
> > 
> > Try the -f option.
> > 
> > Corinna
> 
> 
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WinXP installation - can't access all of the package on the Select Packages page

[Wuphons Reach]

Trying to install Cygwin on a WindowsXP machine with
*small fonts* (but 1400x1050 resolution) and I'm
getting the problem that I can't see the scroll bar
that would let me select packages.  In addition, the
(3) radio buttons in the upper right are bumped to the
right (I can't see anything after "Ex" on the 3rd
button).

I encountered the same error (no scroll bar) on the
"Choose a Download Site" page, except that I was able
to down-arrow until I found a mirror site that worked
for me.

This is the same problem as (which was never
addressed):
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2003-01/msg01847.html

Appearance settings are set to Windows XP style with
the normal font size (under Display Properties).  Same
error when I switch back to Windows2000 style.

-- cygcheck -s -v -r 
Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Tue Mar 04 15:49:27 2003

Windows XP Professional Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service
Pack 1

Path:   C:\WINDOWS\system32
C:\WINDOWS
C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
C:\MSSQL7\BINN
C:\Program Files\Symantec\pcAnywhere\
C:\PROGRA~1\ULTRAE~1
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adaptec
Shared\System
C:\cygwin\bin

SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\System32
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS

HOME = `C:\Data\Home'
Path =
`C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\MSSQL7\BINN;C
:\Program
Files\Symantec\pcAnywhere\;C:\PROGRA~1\ULTRAE~1;C:\Program
Files\Commo
n Files\Adaptec Shared\System;C:\cygwin\bin'

ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users'
APPDATA = `C:\Documents and
Settings\Thomas\Application Data'
CommonProgramFiles = `C:\Program Files\Common Files'
COMPUTERNAME = `THOMAS9100'
ComSpec = `C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe'
HOMEDRIVE = `C:'
HOMEPATH = `\Documents and Settings\Thomas'
LOGONSERVER = `\\DC1'
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1'
OS = `Windows_NT'
PATHEXT =
`.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH'
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86'
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping
4, GenuineIntel'
PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `15'
PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0204'
ProgramFiles = `C:\Program Files'
PROMPT = `$P$G'
SESSIONNAME = `Console'
SystemDrive = `C:'
SystemRoot = `C:\WINDOWS'
TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\Thomas\LOCALS~1\Temp'
TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\Thomas\LOCALS~1\Temp'
USERDNSDOMAIN = `INTRA.NYBETA.COM'
USERDOMAIN = `NYBETA'
USERNAME = `Thomas'
USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\Thomas'
windir = `C:\WINDOWS'

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus
Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus
Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus
Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
  (default) = `/cygdrive'
  cygdrive flags = 0x0022
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus
Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/
  (default) = `C:\cygwin'
  flags = 0x000a
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus
Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus
Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib
  (default) = `C:\cygwin/lib'
  flags = 0x000a
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus
Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options

c:  hd  NTFS   28615Mb  85% CP CS UN PA FC Thomas
d:  cd  UDF 3355Mb 100%CS UN   BOOGIE1
z:  hd  FAT32693Mb  77% CPUN  
ZPERSONAL

C:\cygwin  /  system  binmode
C:\cygwin/bin  /usr/bin   system  binmode
C:\cygwin/lib  /usr/lib   system  binmode
.  /cygdrive  system  binmode,cygdrive

Found: C:\cygwin\bin\awk.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cp.exe
Not Found: cpp (good!)
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
Not Found: gcc
Not Found: gdb
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\grep.exe
Not Found: ld
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
Not Found: make
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\mv.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\rm.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sed.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\tar.exe

   58k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0
img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/5/7 2:33
   45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0
img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25
1:28
   35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0
img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 1:03
   19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0
img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/19
22:05
   17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll -
os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cyghistory4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/6
23:34
   20k 2002/10/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll -
os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cyghistory5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/10/10
13:28
  929k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll -
os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
  "cygiconv-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/6/24
14:24
   22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0
img=1.0 sys=4.0
   

Re: Cygwin setup crashes

[Manu]

Max Bowsher wrote:

> Manu wrote:
> > Anyway, I tried to build the CVS sources, but "setup" doesn't link:
[...]
> > I have done "./libgetopt++/bootstrap.sh", then,
> >
> > "./configure -C --enable-dependencies --disable-shared \
> > --build=i386-pc-mingw32 'CC=gcc -g' 'CXX=g++ -g' \
> > --enable-maintainer-mode && make"
> >
> > libgetopt++/src/getopt.c is not compiled, my "MinGW/lib/getopt.a"
> > is not linked with libgetopt++.
> 
> You are confused with your configure line. Your --build flag is very
> incorrect.
> 
> Either: Drop the --build flag, use the rest as-is to build a cygwin1.dll
> dependent version of setup.

Ok, I'll try again. Though, note that I built the sources with MinGW and
its build environment, not with Cygwin.
(My old Cygwin install is out of date :)
 
> Or: Use the configure line as-is from
> http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin-apps/setup.html.

> Manu wrote:
[...]
> > Call stack:
> > 00406816  SETUP.EXE:00406816  compress_gz::destroy()
> >  compress_gz.cc:472 ...
> >  free (outbuf);
> >if (original)
> >> delete original;
> >  }
> 
> Interesting indeed. Something very weird is happening, if a non-null pointer
> if causing a segfault on being deleted. I wonder if it could be a
> double-free. I'll fiddle with this.

Yes, I also suspect a double-free. I've commented "delete original" and naturally
setup.exe worked. (I have now Cygwin installed :)

> Manu: Just to confirm, this is setup from HEAD of CVS, showing version 2.312
> on it's splash page?

Yes, I confirm.

> Also, could you send the output of 'find' run from your local package
> directory? (as an attachment)

cf find.txt. (build.sh and compress.diff are not in CVS)

[...]
> Please try this patch (against current CVS):
[...]

I've patched and rebuilt.
I have now: "Can't open (null) for reading: No such file"
This occurs in install.cc, line 173:

---
/* install one source at a given prefix. */
static int
install_one_source (packagemeta & pkgm, packagesource & source,
  String const &prefixURL, String const &prefixPath, package_type_t type)
{
  int errors = 0;
  Progress.SetText2 (source.Base ());
  if (!source.Cached () || !io_stream::exists (source.Cached ()))
{
  note (NULL, IDS_ERR_OPEN_READ, source.Cached (), "No such file");
  return 1;
}
---

Something strange, the original setup.exe no longer crashes, it seems that the
problem occurs when first installing Cygwin.

BTW, that registry entries are created during setup? I found
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Cygnus Solutions".
Is there other info stored in ini-files.
I need to remove all of Cygwin and install again, in order to reproduce the problem.
Uninstall packages seems to keep track of the previous installation.

Manu.

.
./IniDBBuilderPackage.cc
./AntiVirus.cc
./AntiVirus.h
./CONTRIBUTORS
./ChangeLog
./Exception.cc
./Exception.h
./FindVisitor.cc
./FindVisitor.h
./IOStreamProvider.h
./IniDBBuilder.cc
./IniDBBuilder.h
./Makefile.am
./MD5++.cc
./IniDBBuilderPackage.h
./IniParseFeedback.cc
./IniParseFeedback.h
./IniParseFindVisitor.cc
./IniParseFindVisitor.h
./LogFile.cc
./LogFile.h
./LogSingleton.cc
./LogSingleton.h
./MD5++.h
./PackageSpecification.cc
./Makefile.in
./String++.cc
./README
./PackageSpecification.h
./PackageTrust.h
./PickCategoryLine.cc
./PickCategoryLine.h
./PickLine.cc
./PickLine.h
./PickPackageLine.cc
./PickPackageLine.h
./PickView.cc
./PickView.h
./ScanFindVisitor.cc
./ScanFindVisitor.h
./String++.h
./aclocal.m4
./archive.cc
./archive.h
./archive_tar.cc
./archive_tar.h
./archive_tar_file.cc
./autoload.c
./bootstrap.sh
./category.cc
./category.h
./check-na.bmp
./check-no.bmp
./check-yes.bmp
./choose-rtarrow.bmp
./choose-spin.bmp
./choose.cc
./choose.h
./cistring.cc
./cistring.h
./compress.cc
./compress.h
./compress_bz.cc
./compress_bz.h
./compress_gz.cc
./compress_gz.h
./concat.cc
./concat.h
./configure
./configure.in
./cygpackage.cc
./cygpackage.h
./cygwin.ico
./desktop.cc
./desktop.h
./dialog.cc
./dialog.h
./diskfull.cc
./diskfull.h
./dlmalloc.c
./download.cc
./download.h
./filemanip.cc
./filemanip.h
./find.cc
./find.h
./fromcwd.cc
./geturl.cc
./geturl.h
./hash.cc
./hash.h
./ini.cc
./ini.h
./inilex.l
./inilintmain.cc
./iniparse.y
./install.cc
./io_stream.cc
./io_stream.h
./io_stream_cygfile.cc
./io_stream_cygfile.h
./io_stream_file.cc
./io_stream_file.h
./io_stream_memory.cc
./io_stream_memory.h
./io_stream_rsync.cc
./io_stream_rsync.h
./localdir.cc
./localdir.h
./log.cc
./log.h
./main.cc
./md5.c
./md5.h
./mkdir.cc
./mkdir.h
./mklink2.cc
./mklink2.h
./mount.cc
./mount.h
./msg.cc
./msg.h
./net.cc
./net.h
./netio.cc
./netio.h
./nio-file.cc
./nio-file.h
./nio-ftp.cc
./nio-ftp.h
./nio-http.cc
./nio-http.h
./nio-ie5.cc
./nio-ie5.h
./package_db.cc
./package_db.h
./package_meta.cc
./package_meta.h
./package_source.cc
./package_source.h
./package_version.cc
./package_version.h
./port.h
./postinstall.cc
./proppage.cc
./proppage.h
./propsheet.cc
./propsheet.h
./res.rc
./resource.h
./rfc1738.cc
./rfc1738.h
./root.cc
./root.h
./script.cc
./

Re: WinXP installation - can't access all of the package on the Select Packages page

[Max Bowsher]

Wuphons Reach wrote:
> Trying to install Cygwin on a WindowsXP machine with
> *small fonts* (but 1400x1050 resolution) and I'm
> getting the problem that I can't see the scroll bar
> that would let me select packages.  In addition, the
> (3) radio buttons in the upper right are bumped to the
> right (I can't see anything after "Ex" on the 3rd
> button).
>
> I encountered the same error (no scroll bar) on the
> "Choose a Download Site" page, except that I was able
> to down-arrow until I found a mirror site that worked
> for me.
>
> This is the same problem as (which was never
> addressed):
> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2003-01/msg01847.html
>
> Appearance settings are set to Windows XP style with
> the normal font size (under Display Properties).  Same
> error when I switch back to Windows2000 style.

The problem was determined to be a bug in Windows (MS's own sample wizard
code shows the bug).

That doesn't help you very much, but there is not a lot that can be done,
short of re-writing setup's windowing system.

Max.


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Re: Cygwin setup crashes

[Max Bowsher]

Manu wrote:
> Ok, I'll try again. Though, note that I built the sources with MinGW
> and its build environment, not with Cygwin.
> (My old Cygwin install is out of date :)

If it works, great. If not, you're on your own.

>> Also, could you send the output of 'find' run from your local package
>> directory? (as an attachment)
>
> cf find.txt. (build.sh and compress.diff are not in CVS)

I meant the one with all the tarballs and setup.ini, but never mind, since
the bug has gone away.

> [...]
>> Please try this patch (against current CVS):
> [...]
>
> I've patched and rebuilt.
> I have now: "Can't open (null) for reading: No such file"
> This occurs in install.cc, line 173:
>
> ---
> /* install one source at a given prefix. */
> static int
> install_one_source (packagemeta & pkgm, packagesource & source,
>   String const &prefixURL, String const &prefixPath,
> package_type_t type) {
>   int errors = 0;
>   Progress.SetText2 (source.Base ());
>   if (!source.Cached () || !io_stream::exists (source.Cached ()))
> {
>   note (NULL, IDS_ERR_OPEN_READ, source.Cached (), "No such
>   file"); return 1;
> }
> ---

Umm. This bug is known to exist, but we don't know how to reproduce it.

> Something strange, the original setup.exe no longer crashes, it seems
> that the problem occurs when first installing Cygwin.
>
> BTW, that registry entries are created during setup? I found
> "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Cygnus Solutions".
> Is there other info stored in ini-files.
> I need to remove all of Cygwin and install again, in order to
> reproduce the problem. Uninstall packages seems to keep track of the
> previous installation.

That key, and its HKEY_CURRENT_USER counterpart.
Everything else is stored under the cygwin root.

Max.


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Re: WinXP installation - can't access all of the package on the Select Packages page

[Max Bowsher]

Stay on the list, please.

> --- Max Bowsher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The problem was determined to be a bug in Windows
>> (MS's own sample wizard
>> code shows the bug).
>>
>> That doesn't help you very much, but there is not a
>> lot that can be done,
>> short of re-writing setup's windowing system.

Wuphons Reach wrote:
> So why not set the window type to be re-sizable?
> Apparently the controls are there, if I could resize
> the window (I've had this issue with other dialogs
> under WinXP) I would be able to install Cygwin.

Because then the window would be resizable, but the controls wouldn't resize
with it.

Max.


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Re: WinXP installation - can't access all of the package on the Select Packages page

[Wuphons Reach]

Sorry... reply sends it to you by default (only
noticed it as it flew out towards the SMTP server).

Not sure why that would be a problem... the controls
aren't going to care if they resize to match the
window (because the window is already one size too
small).  The positioning and size of the controls
won't change, instead by stretching the canvas I'll be
able to see the bits of the controls that don't fit on
the current canvas.

--- Max Bowsher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stay on the list, please.
> 
> Wuphons Reach wrote:
> > So why not set the window type to be re-sizable?
> > Apparently the controls are there, if I could
> resize
> > the window (I've had this issue with other dialogs
> > under WinXP) I would be able to install Cygwin.
> 
> Because then the window would be resizable, but the
> controls wouldn't resize
> with it.
> 
> Max.
> 


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Re: WinXP installation - can't access all of the package on the Select Packages page

[Max Bowsher]

Wuphons Reach wrote:
> Not sure why that would be a problem... the controls
> aren't going to care if they resize to match the
> window (because the window is already one size too
> small).  The positioning and size of the controls
> won't change, instead by stretching the canvas I'll be
> able to see the bits of the controls that don't fit on
> the current canvas.

So, ugliness and sloppy appearance for all, in order to deal with a rarely
encountered bug.

No, not a good solution.

Max.


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Re: WinXP installation - can't access all of the package on the Select Packages page

[Wuphons Reach]

Why would it be ugly and sloppy?  The only people who
are going to want to resize the window are those who
are encountering the bug.  The rest of the folks are
just going to see a window that is exactly the same
size as it was before, only with a resizable border.

--- Max Bowsher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wuphons Reach wrote:
> 
> So, ugliness and sloppy appearance for all, in order
> to deal with a rarely
> encountered bug.
> 
> No, not a good solution.
> 
> Max.
> 


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Re: WinXP installation - can't access all of the package on theSelect Packages page

[Robert Collins]

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 08:48, Max Bowsher wrote:

> 
> So, ugliness and sloppy appearance for all, in order to deal with a rarely
> encountered bug.
> 
> No, not a good solution.

You better watch it Max, you'll end up sounding like me!

Rob

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[PATCH] corrects search order of directories for include files for gcc 3.2

[Andre Bleau]

I observed that with Cygwin's gcc 3.2, /usr/include/w32api is searched 
before /usr/include, even when gcc is called without -mwin32 nor 
-mno-cygwin. If somes files exist with the same name in both 
/usr/include/w32api and /usr/include, such as mapi.h or the files in the GL 
subdirectory, the later are never used. IMO, this is wrong.

With Cygwin's gcc-2, /usr/include is searched before /usr/include/w32api 
when gcc-2 is called without -mwin32 nor -mno-cygwin.

I need this issue to be settled before I can prepare an updated version of 
the OpenGL package.

Here's a patch that sets the search order to:

gcc -mno-cygwin :
 /usr/i686-pc-mingw32/lib/../../include/w32api
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/include
 /usr/include/mingw
gcc -mwin32 :
 /usr/i686-pc-mingw32/lib/../../include/w32api
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/include
 /usr/include
"plain" gcc or gcc -mcygwin
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/include
 /usr/include
 /usr/i686-pc-cygwin/lib/../../include/w32api
I tested the patch by modifying the specs file by hand.

The patch is for /usr/src/gcc-3.2-3/gcc/config/i386/cygwin.h

diff -pu cygwin.h.orig cygwin.h
--- cygwin.h.orig   2003-03-04 15:08:38.0 -0500
+++ cygwin.h2003-03-04 15:34:54.0 -0500
@@ -44,7 +44,8 @@ Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA.  */
   %{mno-cygwin:-D__MSVCRT__ -D__MINGW32__ %{!ansi:%{mthreads:-D_MT}}}\
   %{!mno-cygwin:-D__CYGWIN32__ -D__CYGWIN__ %{!ansi:-Dunix} -D__unix__ 
-D__unix}\
   %{mwin32|mno-cygwin:-DWIN32 -D_WIN32 -D__WIN32 -D__WIN32__ 
%{!ansi:-DWINNT}}\

-  %{!nostdinc:%{!mno-win32|mno-cygwin:-isystem ../include/w32api%s 
-isystem ../../include/w32api%s}}\
+  %{!nostdinc:%{mwin32|mno-cygwin:-isystem ../../include/w32api%s}}\
+  %{!nostdinc:%{!mwin32:%{!mno-cygwin:-idirafter ../../include/w32api%s}}}\
 "




André Bleau, Cygwin's OpenGL package maintainer.

email: bleau at igb dot umontreal dot ca
(Fight SPAM: encode your email-address)
Please address all questions and problem reports about Cygwin's OpenGL 
package to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . 

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Re: WinXP installation - can't access all of the package on the Select Packages page

[Max Bowsher]

> --- Max Bowsher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So, ugliness and sloppy appearance for all, in order
>> to deal with a rarely
>> encountered bug.

Wuphons Reach wrote:
> Why would it be ugly and sloppy?  The only people who
> are going to want to resize the window are those who
> are encountering the bug.  The rest of the folks are
> just going to see a window that is exactly the same
> size as it was before, only with a resizable border.

And then they will try to resize it.
And then they will be annoyed that it doesn't work.
And then they will complain.

Max.


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Re: rxvt - unknown terminal type

[Francois de Campagnolle]

You're the best!

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: rxvt - unknown terminal type


> On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:41:17PM +0100, Francois de Campagnolle wrote:
> >I tried just that, without success. Another user seems to have a similar
pb
> >with termcap/terminfo and latest cygwin DLL. Maybe this is related.
> >I also tried to re-install rxvt and all the X pkg - actually I
re-installed
> >everything that seemed related to rxvt.
> >Any clue?
>
> chmod -R a+r /
>
> ?
>
> cgf
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Re: WinXP installation - can't access all of the package on the Select Packages page

[Wuphons Reach]

So, basically, those of us who are encountering a
show-stopper bug that prevents us from installing
Cygwin (unless we choose to install the full version,
which is an interesting task in itself when you can't
see that the 3rd radio button is "Expert") have less
to complain about then those who will experience a
minor cosmetic issue?

That strikes me as a very strange prioritization  that
a purely cosmetic issue would take priority over
working around a functional bug (regardless that
Microsoft has changed the rules).

Am I correct in understanding then that:

a) there are no plans to deal with this bug
b) those people who are experiencing this bug are
thrown to the wolves
c) this list is not interested in bugs that can't be
fixed in an elegant manner

--- Max Bowsher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> And then they will try to resize it.
> And then they will be annoyed that it doesn't work.
> And then they will complain.
> 
> Max.
> 


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Answer File for Setup.exe

[Kyrytow, Stefan]

Is there a way to create an answer file for cygwin setup? I need to install
cygwin on several workstations and would like to script the install so I
don't manually have to install on each workstation.

STEFAN KYRYTOW
EDS
Global Operation Solution Delivery
Production Engineering
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p 416.517.2252
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RE: Advocacy

[Gerald S. Williams]

I can't believe I'm actually chiming in on this one...

If you add some sort of END marker, you might as well add
a BEGIN marker of some sort as well, in case over-zealous
corporate e-mail security-types get wind of what's going
on. :-) Always be sure to point out that this isn't meant
to defeat the e-mail police, but rather to reduce the risk
of viruses caused by free e-mail advertisements. ;-)

-Jerry

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Re: WinXP installation - can't access all of the package on the Select Packages page

[Max Bowsher]

Wuphons Reach wrote:
> So, basically, those of us who are encountering a
> show-stopper bug that prevents us from installing
> Cygwin (unless we choose to install the full version,
> which is an interesting task in itself when you can't
> see that the 3rd radio button is "Expert") have less
> to complain about then those who will experience a
> minor cosmetic issue?

It's not a minor cosmetic issue. It's a sloppy first impression for *every*
new user of Cygwin.

> That strikes me as a very strange prioritization  that
> a purely cosmetic issue would take priority over
> working around a functional bug (regardless that
> Microsoft has changed the rules).
>
> Am I correct in understanding then that:
>
> a) there are no plans to deal with this bug

We don't know how to fix this bug. Ideas welcome.

> b) those people who are experiencing this bug are
> thrown to the wolves

Workaround: Change your font/DPI settings.

What do you want us to do? (Given that "Make setup ugly" is not an option)

> c) this list is not interested in bugs that can't be
> fixed in an elegant manner

This list is interested in all bugs.
But we won't use a fix which has greater disadvantages than advantages.

Max.


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Re: Answer File for Setup.exe

[Max Bowsher]

Kyrytow, Stefan wrote:
> Is there a way to create an answer file for cygwin setup?

No.

A custom setup.ini placing all the packages you want in the Base category
would reduce the amount of work.


Max.


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RE: Advocacy

[Hannu E K Nevalainen (garbage mail)]

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
> Of Steve Fairbairn

> > From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> > "--LONG DISCLAIMER--"?..
> 
> Seems like a wonderful solution to me...
> 
> ~Steve.
> 
> --LONG DISCLAIMER--

 Hmm... why not make it more general?


/Hannu E K Nevalainen, Mariefred, Sweden 

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RE: why is bash trying to access my DNS?

[Hannu E K Nevalainen (garbage mail)]

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
> Of Randall R Schulz

> Geoffrey,
>
> Exactly what sneaky data can get sent in a DNS request?
>
> Oops. I mean what data can be sneakily sent via a DNS request.
>
> Oops. I mean what data can sneakily be sent via a DNS request.
>

Apart from what "John P. Rouillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote in another
message (udp port 53 listener beeing something else than a DNS)...
Which leads to the conclusion that the answer to the above question(s) is:
"Any information that exists on the computer".

Another side of it:
 I have the same "paranoia" as Geoffrey Hausheer, and I firmly believe that
it has kept my computer setup _clean and functional_ for long periods of
time - where friends and workmates have had _plenty_ of trouble.

Another part of the same "paranoia": Before doing any 'more than minor'
setup-changes or software installs I do a COMPLETE backup. For obvious
reasons (see initial message in this thread).

 So far I have considered a Cygwin update to be 'minor' - but I'm beginning
to reconsider, WRT the amount of problems that seem to rise from that...
(reading this ML is what makes one wonder... ;-)

/Hannu E K Nevalainen, Mariefred, Sweden


> At 20:41 2003-03-03, Geoffrey Hausheer wrote:
-- 8< --
> >I care.  The reason I use zonealarm is to prevent any nasty 'sneaky'
> >programs from trying to send data off my system without my knowing it.
> >It has nothing to do with security (well that is the incoming part, which
> >is there too).
> >
> >Geoff

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Re: why is bash trying to access my DNS? [OT]

[Randall R Schulz]

John,

I get it.

Well, on my system, running Norton Personal Firewall, each distinct 
programm that attempts to access the Internet or to which a connection 
is attempted (and which is not known to be and has not been granted 
access rights) produces an alert. I take it this much is like ZoneAlarm.

In NPF one can continue to individually grant and deny these attempts 
or choose to grant or deny them "forever" (which just causes a new rule 
to be added to NPF's database--those rules can be edited.) NPF also has 
a "zones" notion that allows different protection regimes to be applied 
to different zones. Zones are defined by IP addresses or ranges 
thereof. I never reflexively hit "grant" on those alerts. Most of the 
time if I'm going to grant (not deny), I'll make it a rule and not have 
to bother again.

NPF seems to know in detail (beyond just file name) the applications to 
which its rules apply, since when I re-install something (say wget) 
using the updated application triggers an alert from NPF again.

Perhaps the free version of ZoneAlarm does not provide as flexible or 
readily accessible a facility for defining new access control rules? 
All I really recall about it was that it (I was actually using one of 
the "premium" non-free($) versions) caused my system to lock up when I 
used Internet Connection Sharing. That was a couple of years ago. I 
dumped it after a couple of those incidents.

Randall Schulz

At 08:38 2003-03-04, John P. Rouillard wrote:

>On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 23:59, Randall R Schulz wrote:
>> Geoffrey,
>>=20
>> Exactly what sneaky data can get sent in a DNS request?
>> [...]
>
>Actually, plenty.  Historically, Bind has been easily hacked.  Although
>it's been a while since a good vulnerablity was found in Bind, that
>doesn't mean there's not an unknown hole in it which could be exploited.
>
>However, in order to exploit such a hole, the attacking system has to
>be, in one way or another, "owned".  Anybody with the presence of mind
>to be running ZoneAlarm (or something similar) would certianly know if
>there system(s) had been compromised in such a fashion.
Why is everybody assuming that a random host on the internet is running
a dns server on port 53? Consider this senario:
  I put my machine on the internet. I then put a udp listener at port
  53.  I then distribute software that knows how to create a udp packet
  to port 53 on my host. I can send anything I want to to that port,
  files, passwords, registry entries... Just because its going to a
  DNS port does not mean that its DNS data. It just means that its
  data for the service at that particular IP Address/Port number.
Now if you filter to certain hosts that you KNOW are running dns on
port 53, then that is different. However that means you must keep
updating the filter lists since I know my ISP changes my DNS servers
almost every time I dial up. (My guess is they have a couple of DNS
server per class C subnet/POP, but that's just a guess).
Running ZoneAlarm gives you a hint that something bad may be going on
when a program that shouldn't be making DNS queries starts making
them.  Or alternatively starts making queries tothe DNS port
on joe blow's computer rather than a local network computer.
-- rouilj
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Re: Cygwin setup crashes

[Manu]

Max Bowsher wrote:


[...]
> >> Also, could you send the output of 'find' run from your local package
> >> directory? (as an attachment)
> >
> > cf find.txt. (build.sh and compress.diff are not in CVS)
> 
> I meant the one with all the tarballs and setup.ini, but never mind, since
> the bug has gone away.

Yes, I'm now unable to reproduce the problem. Maybe it occurs only after
"Download from Internet" + "Install from local directory" as I've done
initially.

> > [...]
> >> Please try this patch (against current CVS):
> > [...]
> >
> > I've patched and rebuilt.
> > I have now: "Can't open (null) for reading: No such file"
> > This occurs in install.cc, line 173:
> >
> > ---
> > /* install one source at a given prefix. */
> > static int
> > install_one_source (packagemeta & pkgm, packagesource & source,
> >   String const &prefixURL, String const &prefixPath,
> > package_type_t type) {
> >   int errors = 0;
> >   Progress.SetText2 (source.Base ());
> >   if (!source.Cached () || !io_stream::exists (source.Cached ()))
> > {
> >   note (NULL, IDS_ERR_OPEN_READ, source.Cached (), "No such
> >   file"); return 1;
> > }
> > ---
> 
> Umm. This bug is known to exist, but we don't know how to reproduce it.

At first glance, it occurs with the patch you suggested, when uninstalling
packages. Apparently, it is reproducible.

> > Something strange, the original setup.exe no longer crashes, it seems
> > that the problem occurs when first installing Cygwin.

I'll try to download and install again to see if I can reproduce the segfault.

Manu.



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Re: Cygwin setup crashes

[Max Bowsher]

Manu wrote:
>>> I've patched and rebuilt.
>>> I have now: "Can't open (null) for reading: No such file"
>>> This occurs in install.cc, line 173:
>>>
>>> ---
>>> /* install one source at a given prefix. */
>>> static int
>>> install_one_source (packagemeta & pkgm, packagesource & source,
>>>   String const &prefixURL, String const &prefixPath,
>>> package_type_t type) {
>>>   int errors = 0;
>>>   Progress.SetText2 (source.Base ());
>>>   if (!source.Cached () || !io_stream::exists (source.Cached ()))
>>> {
>>>   note (NULL, IDS_ERR_OPEN_READ, source.Cached (), "No such
>>>   file"); return 1;
>>> }
>>> ---
>>
>> Umm. This bug is known to exist, but we don't know how to reproduce
>> it.
>
> At first glance, it occurs with the patch you suggested, when
> uninstalling packages. Apparently, it is reproducible.

When *uninstalling*? I've only ever seen it when installing.

Anyway, it's definitely not reproducible. It seems to come and go for no
obvious reason.


Max.




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ssh-keygen Please help!!!

[Joshua S. Abbott]

hello i have cygwin and need to create and install ssh keysI am in
/home/AndrewWallace and .ssh is under that I use:  ssh-keygen -t rsa -f
mysshkey  then ssh-keygen -t rsa -f .ssh/id_rsa/ -N ""   the I try to
connect to the server and it give "Permission Denied (Public Key)" :'(



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Re: motif libs

[David Huang]

Darbin Rowland-p95674 wrote:
I have the rpm files for i386 motif but I can't install them because I don't have rpm.
 
How do you isntall rpms on cygwin? 
 
Thanks, 
Rowland
 
Hi,
Please google rpm cygwin first.
here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cygwin-rpm/
Unfortunately, it had discontinued. You can download old binary package 
rpm-3.0.6.tar.gz.
Note: If you have installed popt, please remove the conflict files in rpm-3.0.6.tar.gz.
BTW: Are these i386 motif rpm files for cygwin?



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lpr: can't open 'prn' for writing

[Yoshimitsu, Stacy D.]

Hello,

I can't seems to rung enscript in Cygwin.  I'm getting the following error
messages:

lpr: can't open 'prn' for writing
lpr: The printer name is invalid.


After I added the enscript package, my lpr doesn't work.  Now I can't even
run enscript.  Does anyone know how I can fix this problem?

Thanks,

Stacy

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Re: Cygwin setup crashes

[Manu]

Max Bowsher wrote:


> Manu wrote:
> >>> I've patched and rebuilt.
> >>> I have now: "Can't open (null) for reading: No such file"
> >>> This occurs in install.cc, line 173:
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> /* install one source at a given prefix. */
> >>> static int
> >>> install_one_source (packagemeta & pkgm, packagesource & source,
> >>>   String const &prefixURL, String const &prefixPath,
> >>> package_type_t type) {
> >>>   int errors = 0;
> >>>   Progress.SetText2 (source.Base ());
> >>>   if (!source.Cached () || !io_stream::exists (source.Cached ()))
> >>> {
> >>>   note (NULL, IDS_ERR_OPEN_READ, source.Cached (), "No such
> >>>   file"); return 1;
> >>> }
> >>> ---
> >>
> >> Umm. This bug is known to exist, but we don't know how to reproduce
> >> it.
> >
> > At first glance, it occurs with the patch you suggested, when
> > uninstalling packages. Apparently, it is reproducible.
> 
> When *uninstalling*? I've only ever seen it when installing.

Yes, Install and Reinstall works fine, Uninstall shows a dialog box which
appears until the cows come home.
 
> Anyway, it's definitely not reproducible. It seems to come and go for no
> obvious reason.

So my case is particular, that bug always "works" for me :)

Manu.



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Re: why is bash trying to access my DNS?

[David Means]

Randall:

There's nothing that a legitimate DNS server can elicit from a client.
Although, in some special cases, clients can be hacked by specially
crafted DNS responses.

However, if a system is infected with a trojan, then obviously said
system has the potential to be used as a zombie for attacking any
server.  In this instance (regarding DNS), ZoneAlarm would do you some
good provided that you never send DNS queries outside of ones network.

But exactly how plausible is that?  What I'm questioning is this: how
helpful is the DNS activity alert on ZoneAlarm?  Unless it's looking for
the myriad of DNS vulnerablities listed at CERT and other similar
resources, then it's a farily usless check, IMHO.  And given that it
appears (from my limited perspective) to be flagging normal DNS traffic,
then I'm of the opinion it's quite useless indeed for the application in
which it's intended to be used, and has in this instance raised concern
where none is actually warrented.

But to answer your original question regarding the data that can be
"sneakily sent via a DSN request", check this out:

http://search.cert.org/query.html?col=certadv&col=vulnotes&ht=0&qp=&qt=DNS+BIND&qs=&qc=&pw=100%25&ws=1&la=en&qm=0&st=1&nh=25&lk=1&rf=2&rq=0&si=1



On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 00:53, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> David,
> 
> At 21:20 2003-03-03, David Means wrote:
> >On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 23:59, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > > Geoffrey,
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Oops. I mean what data can sneakily be sent via a DNS request?
> > >
> > > Randall Schulz
> >
> >Actually, plenty.  Historically, Bind has been easily 
> >hacked.  Although it's been a while since a good vulnerability was 
> >found in Bind, that doesn't mean there's not an unknown hole in it 
> >which could be exploited.
> 
> Please be specific. What information can be elicited by the DNS server 
> from the DNS client when the client makes a DNS request?
> 
> I really think there are more important things to worry about, but I'd 
> like to learn how I might be wrong.
> 
> 
> >--
> >David Means
> 
> 
> Randall Schulz 
> 
> 
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crib sheet: ssh single-login/no password ( was Re: ssh-keygen )

[Robert Citek]

At 08:23 PM 3/4/2003 -0600, Joshua S. Abbott wrote:
>hello i have cygwin and need to create and install ssh keysI am in
>/home/AndrewWallace and .ssh is under that I use:  ssh-keygen -t rsa -f
>mysshkey  then ssh-keygen -t rsa -f .ssh/id_rsa/ -N ""   the I try to
>connect to the server and it give "Permission Denied (Public Key)" :'(

Since I have seen this type of question more than a few times, here's my
crib sheet.  Feel free to modify.

Regards,
- Robert

-
(c) 2003 - Robert Citek

For OpenSSH 2.5.2 or greater under Cygwin: access without using a password
or with single-login.  Assuming you want to connect from machine A to
machine B using ssh.

== blank passphrase

1) generate private/public keys on A
   $ ssh-keygen -t dsa
   press enter when it asks for the filename
   press enter when it asks for the passphrase (yes, a blank passphrase)
   this will generate two files: ~/.ssh/id_dsa and ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub

2) put ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub from A into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 on B
   $ cat ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub | ssh B 'cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2'

3) make sure all files are not writable or readable except by owner
   do this on A and B
   $ chmod a-x,go-w,o-r ~/.ssh/*

4) verify it works
   $ ssh B ls -la

== single-logon

1) generate private/public keys on A
   $ ssh-keygen -t dsa
   press enter when it asks for the filename
   enter a passphrase
   this will generate two files: ~/.ssh/id_dsa and ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub

2) put ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub from A in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 on B
   $ cat ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub | ssh B 'cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2'

3) make sure all files are not writable or readable except by owner
   do this on A and B
   $ chmod a-x,go-w,o-r ~/.ssh/*

4) use ssh-agent to manage passphrases
   $ eval $(ssh-agent)

5) make agent aware of passphrases
   $ ssh-add   # enter the appropriate passphrase for each remote host

6) verify everything works
   $ ssh B ls -la


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Re: WinXP installation - can't access all of the package on the Select Packages page

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 08:54:22AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote:
>On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 08:48, Max Bowsher wrote:
>>So, ugliness and sloppy appearance for all, in order to deal with a
>>rarely encountered bug.
>>
>>No, not a good solution.
>
>You better watch it Max, you'll end up sounding like me!

Or, worse (much worse) me.

cgf

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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: pdksh-5.2.14-2

[Elfyn McBratney]

This package contains pdksh, the Public Domain Korn Shell. Homepage of the
project is  .

This is an update to fix the lack of the postinstall script run. There was
an error at the top of the file, a double '#' bang on the shebang line which
meant that the script would be ignored when executed. This is now fixed and
files such as /etc/profile.ksh will now be installed.


To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on the
http://cygwin.com/ web page.  This downloads setup.exe to your system.  Once
you've downloaded setup.exe, run it and select "Net" or "Mail" and then
click on the appropriate field until the above announced version number
appears if it is not displayed already.

If you have questions or comments, please send them to the Cygwin mailing
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