Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Jason House]

I have to withdraw from this tournament.  I don't have a windows
computer, and getting access to one with the ability to install tools
has been tougher than anticipated.

On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 14:53 +0100, Nick Wedd wrote:
> The European Go Congress (see http://egc2008.eu/en/congress/index.php) 
> will be held in Leksand, Sweden from July 26th to August 9th.  On 
> Wednesday August 6th it will include a Computer Go event (see 
> http://www.computer-go.info/egc2008/).
> 
> Entry to this is free.  If you would like to enter but cannot be there 
> yourself, it should be possible for you to send in your program, and I 
> will try to find an operator for it.
> 
> According to my records, entries so far are:
> 
>19x199x9
> CrazyStonepossible possible
> FirstGo   yes  yes
> GNU Goprobable probable
> HouseBot  no   yes
> Leela probable yes
> Mango possible possible
> Many Faces of Go  yes  no
> Steenvreter   no   yes
> Toaster   no   possible
> TSGo  probable no
> Tuuppari  yes  yes
> valkyria  possible possible
> Wei2Goprobable no
> 
> I expect this table needs correcting and bringing up to date. 
> Corrections and updates may be posted to this list or sent to me 
> privately, as you prefer.  Late entries are also welcome.
> 
> The programs will be run on Windows Vista PCs in Leksand, connected to 
> KGS, where the games will be played.
> 
> Of the programs listed above, TSGo (by Ivo Tonkes) and Tuuppari (by a 
> team of Finnish programmers) have never, so far as I know, competed in a 
> KGS tournament.  I would like both those programs to play in a trial 
> tournament on KGS, to ensure that they are correctly configured for 
> tournament play, rather than finding out that they aren't on the day of 
> the event.  I am willing to set up such a trial tournament whenever 
> requested - it will use very short time limits, and no-one will care who 
> wins, the purpose will be to test their handling of the tournament 
> settings.  However I suspect that neither of these programs yet has its 
> Windows version in a presentable state.  I hope to hear soon from Ivo 
> Tonkes and Mika Urtela about this - if I don't, I shall assume that they 
> aren't reading this list, and email them privately.
> 
> I owe two pints of beer to "the GNU Go team".  I expect to deliver these 
> to Gunnar, if he is there to operate GNU Go.  Gunnar will also be 
> speaking on computer Go, after the tournament.
> 
> Nick

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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Urban Hafner]

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Jason House wrote:
| I have to withdraw from this tournament.  I don't have a windows
| computer, and getting access to one with the ability to install tools
| has been tougher than anticipated.

It's actually my fault. But the combination of my lack of Windows
knowledge (believe it or not, I've never compiled a program on
Windows!), the relatively new language (D) and the libraries needed made
it impossible to provide a Windows build in time.

My apologies for the short notice.

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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Don Dailey]

On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 08:30 -0400, Jason House wrote:
> I have to withdraw from this tournament.  I don't have a windows
> computer, and getting access to one with the ability to install tools
> has been tougher than anticipated.

Why do you need a windows computer?   It's my understanding that they
already supply windows Vista computers for you.   And can't you bring
the software tools you need to install with you on a pen drive or on
cdrom?

- Don



> 
> On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 14:53 +0100, Nick Wedd wrote:
> > The European Go Congress (see http://egc2008.eu/en/congress/index.php) 
> > will be held in Leksand, Sweden from July 26th to August 9th.  On 
> > Wednesday August 6th it will include a Computer Go event (see 
> > http://www.computer-go.info/egc2008/).
> > 
> > Entry to this is free.  If you would like to enter but cannot be there 
> > yourself, it should be possible for you to send in your program, and I 
> > will try to find an operator for it.
> > 
> > According to my records, entries so far are:
> > 
> >19x199x9
> > CrazyStonepossible possible
> > FirstGo   yes  yes
> > GNU Goprobable probable
> > HouseBot  no   yes
> > Leela probable yes
> > Mango possible possible
> > Many Faces of Go  yes  no
> > Steenvreter   no   yes
> > Toaster   no   possible
> > TSGo  probable no
> > Tuuppari  yes  yes
> > valkyria  possible possible
> > Wei2Goprobable no
> > 
> > I expect this table needs correcting and bringing up to date. 
> > Corrections and updates may be posted to this list or sent to me 
> > privately, as you prefer.  Late entries are also welcome.
> > 
> > The programs will be run on Windows Vista PCs in Leksand, connected to 
> > KGS, where the games will be played.
> > 
> > Of the programs listed above, TSGo (by Ivo Tonkes) and Tuuppari (by a 
> > team of Finnish programmers) have never, so far as I know, competed in a 
> > KGS tournament.  I would like both those programs to play in a trial 
> > tournament on KGS, to ensure that they are correctly configured for 
> > tournament play, rather than finding out that they aren't on the day of 
> > the event.  I am willing to set up such a trial tournament whenever 
> > requested - it will use very short time limits, and no-one will care who 
> > wins, the purpose will be to test their handling of the tournament 
> > settings.  However I suspect that neither of these programs yet has its 
> > Windows version in a presentable state.  I hope to hear soon from Ivo 
> > Tonkes and Mika Urtela about this - if I don't, I shall assume that they 
> > aren't reading this list, and email them privately.
> > 
> > I owe two pints of beer to "the GNU Go team".  I expect to deliver these 
> > to Gunnar, if he is there to operate GNU Go.  Gunnar will also be 
> > speaking on computer Go, after the tournament.
> > 
> > Nick
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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Don Dailey]

I misunderstood Jason's email.  He is trying to compile his program to
run on windows and it's written in D. You cannot log into a windows
computer remotely either without special software.

There must be someone on this group who will try to compile your program
to run on windows using the digital mars D compiler.Are you using a
lot of external libraries?   

Where do you live?  Perhaps if someone on the group with a windows
computer who happens to live near you, would let you help?   

Do you use the digital mars compiler or the gnu based compiler?  Do you
think it would work on either?

- Don



On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 15:19 +0200, Urban Hafner wrote:
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> Jason House wrote:
> | I have to withdraw from this tournament.  I don't have a windows
> | computer, and getting access to one with the ability to install tools
> | has been tougher than anticipated.
> 
> It's actually my fault. But the combination of my lack of Windows
> knowledge (believe it or not, I've never compiled a program on
> Windows!), the relatively new language (D) and the libraries needed made
> it impossible to provide a Windows build in time.
> 
> My apologies for the short notice.
> 
> Urban
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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Jason House]

I'm not physically attending the EGC.  In order to participate, I needed to
provide a windows executable and have someone operate the bot on my behalf.
I probably should have taken advantage of the offer to use a Linux box, but
I figured I'd make it easier on the organizers :)

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 08:30 -0400, Jason House wrote:
> > I have to withdraw from this tournament.  I don't have a windows
> > computer, and getting access to one with the ability to install tools
> > has been tougher than anticipated.
>
> Why do you need a windows computer?   It's my understanding that they
> already supply windows Vista computers for you.   And can't you bring
> the software tools you need to install with you on a pen drive or on
> cdrom?
>
> - Don
>
>
>
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 14:53 +0100, Nick Wedd wrote:
> > > The European Go Congress (see http://egc2008.eu/en/congress/index.php)
> > > will be held in Leksand, Sweden from July 26th to August 9th.  On
> > > Wednesday August 6th it will include a Computer Go event (see
> > > http://www.computer-go.info/egc2008/).
> > >
> > > Entry to this is free.  If you would like to enter but cannot be there
> > > yourself, it should be possible for you to send in your program, and I
> > > will try to find an operator for it.
> > >
> > > According to my records, entries so far are:
> > >
> > >19x199x9
> > > CrazyStonepossible possible
> > > FirstGo   yes  yes
> > > GNU Goprobable probable
> > > HouseBot  no   yes
> > > Leela probable yes
> > > Mango possible possible
> > > Many Faces of Go  yes  no
> > > Steenvreter   no   yes
> > > Toaster   no   possible
> > > TSGo  probable no
> > > Tuuppari  yes  yes
> > > valkyria  possible possible
> > > Wei2Goprobable no
> > >
> > > I expect this table needs correcting and bringing up to date.
> > > Corrections and updates may be posted to this list or sent to me
> > > privately, as you prefer.  Late entries are also welcome.
> > >
> > > The programs will be run on Windows Vista PCs in Leksand, connected to
> > > KGS, where the games will be played.
> > >
> > > Of the programs listed above, TSGo (by Ivo Tonkes) and Tuuppari (by a
> > > team of Finnish programmers) have never, so far as I know, competed in
> a
> > > KGS tournament.  I would like both those programs to play in a trial
> > > tournament on KGS, to ensure that they are correctly configured for
> > > tournament play, rather than finding out that they aren't on the day of
> > > the event.  I am willing to set up such a trial tournament whenever
> > > requested - it will use very short time limits, and no-one will care
> who
> > > wins, the purpose will be to test their handling of the tournament
> > > settings.  However I suspect that neither of these programs yet has its
> > > Windows version in a presentable state.  I hope to hear soon from Ivo
> > > Tonkes and Mika Urtela about this - if I don't, I shall assume that
> they
> > > aren't reading this list, and email them privately.
> > >
> > > I owe two pints of beer to "the GNU Go team".  I expect to deliver
> these
> > > to Gunnar, if he is there to operate GNU Go.  Gunnar will also be
> > > speaking on computer Go, after the tournament.
> > >
> > > Nick
> >
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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Don Dailey]

On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 09:38 -0400, Jason House wrote:
> I'm not physically attending the EGC.  In order to participate, I
> needed to provide a windows executable and have someone operate the
> bot on my behalf.  I probably should have taken advantage of the offer
> to use a Linux box, but I figured I'd make it easier on the
> organizers :)

I suppose you could attempt to do this with wine, the windows emulator.
Have you considered trying?   I have been surprised recently with how
well it works.  

Also, I have successfully created a windows executable for my chess
program using the cross compiler but it's not D, it's C. 


- Don



> 
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 08:30 -0400, Jason House wrote:
> > I have to withdraw from this tournament.  I don't have a
> windows
> > computer, and getting access to one with the ability to
> install tools
> > has been tougher than anticipated.
> 
> 
> Why do you need a windows computer?   It's my understanding
> that they
> already supply windows Vista computers for you.   And can't
> you bring
> the software tools you need to install with you on a pen drive
> or on
> cdrom?
> 
> - Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 14:53 +0100, Nick Wedd wrote:
> > > The European Go Congress (see
> http://egc2008.eu/en/congress/index.php)
> > > will be held in Leksand, Sweden from July 26th to August
> 9th.  On
> > > Wednesday August 6th it will include a Computer Go event
> (see
> > > http://www.computer-go.info/egc2008/).
> > >
> > > Entry to this is free.  If you would like to enter but
> cannot be there
> > > yourself, it should be possible for you to send in your
> program, and I
> > > will try to find an operator for it.
> > >
> > > According to my records, entries so far are:
> > >
> > >19x199x9
> > > CrazyStonepossible possible
> > > FirstGo   yes  yes
> > > GNU Goprobable probable
> > > HouseBot  no   yes
> > > Leela probable yes
> > > Mango possible possible
> > > Many Faces of Go  yes  no
> > > Steenvreter   no   yes
> > > Toaster   no   possible
> > > TSGo  probable no
> > > Tuuppari  yes  yes
> > > valkyria  possible possible
> > > Wei2Goprobable no
> > >
> > > I expect this table needs correcting and bringing up to
> date.
> > > Corrections and updates may be posted to this list or sent
> to me
> > > privately, as you prefer.  Late entries are also welcome.
> > >
> > > The programs will be run on Windows Vista PCs in Leksand,
> connected to
> > > KGS, where the games will be played.
> > >
> > > Of the programs listed above, TSGo (by Ivo Tonkes) and
> Tuuppari (by a
> > > team of Finnish programmers) have never, so far as I know,
> competed in a
> > > KGS tournament.  I would like both those programs to play
> in a trial
> > > tournament on KGS, to ensure that they are correctly
> configured for
> > > tournament play, rather than finding out that they aren't
> on the day of
> > > the event.  I am willing to set up such a trial tournament
> whenever
> > > requested - it will use very short time limits, and no-one
> will care who
> > > wins, the purpose will be to test their handling of the
> tournament
> > > settings.  However I suspect that neither of these
> programs yet has its
> > > Windows version in a presentable state.  I hope to hear
> soon from Ivo
> > > Tonkes and Mika Urtela about this - if I don't, I shall
> assume that they
> > > aren't reading this list, and email them privately.
> > >
> > > I owe two pints of beer to "the GNU Go team".  I expect to
> deliver these
> > > to Gunnar, if he is there to operate GNU Go.  Gunnar will
> also be
> > > speaking on computer Go, after the tournament.
> > >
> > > Nick
> >
> 
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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[terry mcintyre]

- Original Message 

From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>I misunderstood Jason's email.  He is trying to compile his program to
>run on windows and it's written in D. You cannot log into a windows
>computer remotely either without special software.

Rdesktop is is widely available for most linux distros and can log in remotely 
to windows machines. Firewalls may, however, block the RDP (Remote Desktop 
Protocol ) ports. Some versons of Windoze limit the number of simultaneous 
logins to a very large number such as "two."



  
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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Jason House]

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I misunderstood Jason's email.  He is trying to compile his program to
> run on windows and it's written in D. You cannot log into a windows
> computer remotely either without special software.
>
> There must be someone on this group who will try to compile your program
> to run on windows using the digital mars D compiler.Are you using a
> lot of external libraries?


The latest version uses Tango 0.99.7, flex, and bison.  The dependency on
flex and bison are for SGF parsing and can be commented out with relative
ease (housebot.d has approximately 3 lines that reference sgf).

I made a last ditch attempt this morning, downloading "Easy D" from
http://www.fsdev.net/versions/show/7 and the HouseBot source from
http://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=149506

My initial download of the tar.gz failed because the computer didn't have
gunzip and tar.  I then downloaded Tortoise SVN from
http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads and rebooted.

I did not have command line utilities to run compute_version.sh, so I made
the following manual hb_version.d file:
void gtp_version(){ return "HouseBot 0.7 r811"; }

and then ran the equivalent of dmd *.d game/*.d search/*.d -unittest
-ofhousebot-0.7
To my shock and horror, the digital mars d compiler then crashed.

I've been developing with gdc (d variant of gcc) because of it's broader
platform compatibility, but that's not part of the easy d distribution.  At
that point, I gave up and sent the e-mail.




> Where do you live?  Perhaps if someone on the group with a windows
> computer who happens to live near you, would let you help?


Sadly, my biggest problem now is time.  I woke up this morning and saw the
e-mail from Urban that he had difficultly using a virtual machine with
windows on it to build HouseBot.  It's possible that around 9pm or so, I
could start messing with things again, but that's cutting it close.



> Do you use the digital mars compiler or the gnu based compiler?  Do you
> think it would work on either?


I was assuming it would work with either, but now I'm not so sure.  At this
point, I'd want to try to use GDC.  It may be that I have to submit a
compiler bug report to digital mars.



> - Don
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 15:19 +0200, Urban Hafner wrote:
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> > Jason House wrote:
> > | I have to withdraw from this tournament.  I don't have a windows
> > | computer, and getting access to one with the ability to install tools
> > | has been tougher than anticipated.
> >
> > It's actually my fault. But the combination of my lack of Windows
> > knowledge (believe it or not, I've never compiled a program on
> > Windows!), the relatively new language (D) and the libraries needed made
> > it impossible to provide a Windows build in time.
> >
> > My apologies for the short notice.
> >
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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Don Dailey]

On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 09:38 -0400, Don Dailey wrote:
> Where do you live?  Perhaps if someone on the group with a windows
> computer who happens to live near you, would let you help?   

Woops, what I meant to say is that perhaps someone living near you would
let you physically work on their machine.   If you live near a
population center the odds are reasonable that someone on this group
lives near you and would help.

Windows is such a pain.  It's too bad you cannot just log into any
windows computer remotely,  build and test your software and be done
with it. 

- Don


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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Jason House]

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2008, at 9:45 AM, terry mcintyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



- Original Message 

From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I misunderstood Jason's email.  He is trying to compile his program  
to
run on windows and it's written in D. You cannot log into a  
windows

computer remotely either without special software.


Rdesktop is is widely available for most linux distros and can log  
in remotely to windows machines. Firewalls may, however, block the  
RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol ) ports. Some versons of Windoze limit  
the number of simultaneous logins to a very large number such as  
"two."



The very large number of two is reserved for windows servers. Personal  
computers are restricted to one, and that'll kick off whoever is  
locally logged into the box.





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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Don Dailey]

I don't want to get into a holy war over this, but Windows has suffered
forever with this albatross around it's neck,  the concept that a single
physical device is an exclusive resource for one person and only one
person.   It's a real straight-jacket when you are used to something
more sane.

I thought they were coming around when more recent versions appeared to
support multiple users.  But it turned out to be a bit of a sham - one
person at a time still sitting directly in front of the machine although
if one person logs out, another can log in. Even with this, I don't
think windows provides the same clean separations of users from each
other, although I admit I don't fully understand their security model.  

- Don


   
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 10:08 -0400, Jason House wrote:
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 5, 2008, at 9:45 AM, terry mcintyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
> 
> > - Original Message 
> >
> > From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >> I misunderstood Jason's email.  He is trying to compile his program  
> >> to
> >> run on windows and it's written in D. You cannot log into a  
> >> windows
> >> computer remotely either without special software.
> >
> > Rdesktop is is widely available for most linux distros and can log  
> > in remotely to windows machines. Firewalls may, however, block the  
> > RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol ) ports. Some versons of Windoze limit  
> > the number of simultaneous logins to a very large number such as  
> > "two."
> 
> 
> The very large number of two is reserved for windows servers. Personal  
> computers are restricted to one, and that'll kick off whoever is  
> locally logged into the box.
> 
> 
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[computer-go] Re: Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Basti Weidemyr]

Hi

A note from the ORGANIZERS:

We are trying to prepare USB-sticks with Linux to boot the computers  
from. It seems we will have 3 sticks - for Fuego, for Steenwreter and  
for for example HouseBot.


Oddly enough the computers will not boot from CD. We have no clues. :)
It will turn out later today whether it works or not, but booting  
linux from a USB-stick worked fine for Gunnar Farnebäck.


Best regards
Basti Weidemyr
sestir

On Aug 5, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Jason House wrote:

I'm not physically attending the EGC.  In order to participate, I  
needed to provide a windows executable and have someone operate the  
bot on my behalf.  I probably should have taken advantage of the  
offer to use a Linux box, but I figured I'd make it easier on the  
organizers :)


On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 08:30 -0400, Jason House wrote:
> I have to withdraw from this tournament.  I don't have a windows
> computer, and getting access to one with the ability to install  
tools

> has been tougher than anticipated.

Why do you need a windows computer?   It's my understanding that they
already supply windows Vista computers for you.   And can't you bring
the software tools you need to install with you on a pen drive or on
cdrom?

- Don



>
> On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 14:53 +0100, Nick Wedd wrote:
> > The European Go Congress (see http://egc2008.eu/en/congress/ 
index.php)

> > will be held in Leksand, Sweden from July 26th to August 9th.  On
> > Wednesday August 6th it will include a Computer Go event (see
> > http://www.computer-go.info/egc2008/).
> >
> > Entry to this is free.  If you would like to enter but cannot  
be there
> > yourself, it should be possible for you to send in your  
program, and I

> > will try to find an operator for it.
> >
> > According to my records, entries so far are:
> >
> >19x199x9
> > CrazyStonepossible possible
> > FirstGo   yes  yes
> > GNU Goprobable probable
> > HouseBot  no   yes
> > Leela probable yes
> > Mango possible possible
> > Many Faces of Go  yes  no
> > Steenvreter   no   yes
> > Toaster   no   possible
> > TSGo  probable no
> > Tuuppari  yes  yes
> > valkyria  possible possible
> > Wei2Goprobable no
> >
> > I expect this table needs correcting and bringing up to date.
> > Corrections and updates may be posted to this list or sent to me
> > privately, as you prefer.  Late entries are also welcome.
> >
> > The programs will be run on Windows Vista PCs in Leksand,  
connected to

> > KGS, where the games will be played.
> >
> > Of the programs listed above, TSGo (by Ivo Tonkes) and Tuuppari  
(by a
> > team of Finnish programmers) have never, so far as I know,  
competed in a
> > KGS tournament.  I would like both those programs to play in a  
trial
> > tournament on KGS, to ensure that they are correctly configured  
for
> > tournament play, rather than finding out that they aren't on  
the day of
> > the event.  I am willing to set up such a trial tournament  
whenever
> > requested - it will use very short time limits, and no-one will  
care who

> > wins, the purpose will be to test their handling of the tournament
> > settings.  However I suspect that neither of these programs yet  
has its
> > Windows version in a presentable state.  I hope to hear soon  
from Ivo
> > Tonkes and Mika Urtela about this - if I don't, I shall assume  
that they

> > aren't reading this list, and email them privately.
> >
> > I owe two pints of beer to "the GNU Go team".  I expect to  
deliver these

> > to Gunnar, if he is there to operate GNU Go.  Gunnar will also be
> > speaking on computer Go, after the tournament.
> >
> > Nick
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Re: [computer-go] Re: Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[John Fan]

I have tried Fedora Live USB Creator. It is very easy to create a bootable
fedora on usb from windows machine. It literally requires only one click.
Here is the link -- https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Basti Weidemyr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> A note from the ORGANIZERS:
>
> We are trying to prepare USB-sticks with Linux to boot the computers from.
> It seems we will have 3 sticks - for Fuego, for Steenwreter and for for
> example HouseBot.
>
> Oddly enough the computers will not boot from CD. We have no clues. :)
> It will turn out later today whether it works or not, but booting linux
> from a USB-stick worked fine for Gunnar Farnebäck.
>
> Best regards
> Basti Weidemyr
> sestir
>
> On Aug 5, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Jason House wrote:
>
> I'm not physically attending the EGC.  In order to participate, I needed to
> provide a windows executable and have someone operate the bot on my behalf.
> I probably should have taken advantage of the offer to use a Linux box, but
> I figured I'd make it easier on the organizers :)
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 08:30 -0400, Jason House wrote:
>> > I have to withdraw from this tournament.  I don't have a windows
>> > computer, and getting access to one with the ability to install tools
>> > has been tougher than anticipated.
>>
>> Why do you need a windows computer?   It's my understanding that they
>> already supply windows Vista computers for you.   And can't you bring
>> the software tools you need to install with you on a pen drive or on
>> cdrom?
>>
>> - Don
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 14:53 +0100, Nick Wedd wrote:
>> > > The European Go Congress (see http://egc2008.eu/en/congress/index.php
>> )
>> > > will be held in Leksand, Sweden from July 26th to August 9th.  On
>> > > Wednesday August 6th it will include a Computer Go event (see
>> > > http://www.computer-go.info/egc2008/).
>> > >
>> > > Entry to this is free.  If you would like to enter but cannot be there
>> > > yourself, it should be possible for you to send in your program, and I
>> > > will try to find an operator for it.
>> > >
>> > > According to my records, entries so far are:
>> > >
>> > >19x199x9
>> > > CrazyStonepossible possible
>> > > FirstGo   yes  yes
>> > > GNU Goprobable probable
>> > > HouseBot  no   yes
>> > > Leela probable yes
>> > > Mango possible possible
>> > > Many Faces of Go  yes  no
>> > > Steenvreter   no   yes
>> > > Toaster   no   possible
>> > > TSGo  probable no
>> > > Tuuppari  yes  yes
>> > > valkyria  possible possible
>> > > Wei2Goprobable no
>> > >
>> > > I expect this table needs correcting and bringing up to date.
>> > > Corrections and updates may be posted to this list or sent to me
>> > > privately, as you prefer.  Late entries are also welcome.
>> > >
>> > > The programs will be run on Windows Vista PCs in Leksand, connected to
>> > > KGS, where the games will be played.
>> > >
>> > > Of the programs listed above, TSGo (by Ivo Tonkes) and Tuuppari (by a
>> > > team of Finnish programmers) have never, so far as I know, competed in
>> a
>> > > KGS tournament.  I would like both those programs to play in a trial
>> > > tournament on KGS, to ensure that they are correctly configured for
>> > > tournament play, rather than finding out that they aren't on the day
>> of
>> > > the event.  I am willing to set up such a trial tournament whenever
>> > > requested - it will use very short time limits, and no-one will care
>> who
>> > > wins, the purpose will be to test their handling of the tournament
>> > > settings.  However I suspect that neither of these programs yet has
>> its
>> > > Windows version in a presentable state.  I hope to hear soon from Ivo
>> > > Tonkes and Mika Urtela about this - if I don't, I shall assume that
>> they
>> > > aren't reading this list, and email them privately.
>> > >
>> > > I owe two pints of beer to "the GNU Go team".  I expect to deliver
>> these
>> > > to Gunnar, if he is there to operate GNU Go.  Gunnar will also be
>> > > speaking on computer Go, after the tournament.
>> > >
>> > > Nick
>> >
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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Janzert]

Jason House wrote:



On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


I misunderstood Jason's email.  He is trying to compile his program to
run on windows and it's written in D. You cannot log into a windows
computer remotely either without special software.

There must be someone on this group who will try to compile your program
to run on windows using the digital mars D compiler.Are you using a
lot of external libraries?


The latest version uses Tango 0.99.7, flex, and bison.  The dependency 
on flex and bison are for SGF parsing and can be commented out with 
relative ease (housebot.d has approximately 3 lines that reference sgf).


I made a last ditch attempt this morning, downloading "Easy D" from 
http://www.fsdev.net/versions/show/7 and the HouseBot source from 
http://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=149506


My initial download of the tar.gz failed because the computer didn't 
have gunzip and tar.  I then downloaded Tortoise SVN from 
http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads and rebooted.


I did not have command line utilities to run compute_version.sh, so I 
made the following manual hb_version.d file:

void gtp_version(){ return "HouseBot 0.7 r811"; }

and then ran the equivalent of dmd *.d game/*.d search/*.d -unittest 
-ofhousebot-0.7

To my shock and horror, the digital mars d compiler then crashed.

I've been developing with gdc (d variant of gcc) because of it's broader 
platform compatibility, but that's not part of the easy d distribution.  
At that point, I gave up and sent the e-mail.





For reference here's the results of my try building it as well.
Unfortunately it boils down to not having gotten any farther than you
and maybe not as far.

I've developed in D but not using tango or dsss before so may have
gotten something setup wrong.

When first trying to compile I get errors in ipc.d:
ipc.d(81): no identifier for declarator i
ipc.d(81): semicolon expected, not '!='
ipc.d(81): no identifier for declarator i
ipc.d(81): semicolon expected, not '++'
...

Those are repeated for every for statement in the debug block. They
don't make any sense to me but rather than sort it out I simply
commented out the block.

After commenting that out I then get:
C:\housebot\housebot\trunk\housebot>dsss build housebot.d
housebot.d => housebot-0.7
Command: warn please make sure to build sgf/parser.o and sgf/lexer.o
prior to running dsss
WARNING: please make sure to build sgf/parser.o and sgf/lexer.o prior to
running dsss
+ C:\dsss\bin\rebuild.exe -Idsss_imports\ -I. -S.\ -IC:\dsss\include\d
-SC:\dsss
\lib\  -IC:\dsss\include\d -SC:\dsss\lib  -oqdsss_objs\D -Dddoc/ddoc
-unittest -
w -g sgf/parser.o sgf/lexer.o housebot.d -ofhousebot-0.7
tangoBind.d(110): Error: void initializer has no value
tangoBind.d(114): Error: Integer constant expression expected instead of
0.length
tangoBind.d(114): Error: Integer constant expression expected instead of
0.length
tangoBind.d(114): Error: Integer constant expression expected instead of
0.length
tangoBind.d(126): template instance tangoBind.isStaticArray_impl!(int[])
error instantiating
tangoBind.d(133): template instance tangoBind.isStaticArray!(int[])
error instantiating
... (Repeats the tangobind.d errors several times)

After the initial tangobind.d error it also has a pop-up saying dmd crashed.

A simple helloworld using tango does work but beyond that I may not have
tango actually installed correctly. I used the current release from
tango's website which also includes dmd 1.033.

Janzert

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[computer-go] A lot of games lost on time.

[Don Dailey]

myCtest on 19x19 is losing a lot of games on time.   Most of them today.

gid   dte w b
res 
  --    

198   2008-08-04 23:59myCtest-10k   Fast
B+Time  
207   2008-08-05 01:17Fast  myCtest-10k
W+Time  
209   2008-08-05 01:43AverageLibmyCtest-10k
W+Time  
222   2008-08-05 03:09myCtest-10k   Fast
B+Time  
230   2008-08-05 04:16AverageLibmyCtest-10k
W+Time  
234   2008-08-05 04:39myCtest-10k   AverageLib
B+Time  
264   2008-08-05 08:34AverageLibmyCtest-10k
W+Time  



- Don

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Re: [computer-go] Location for US Go Congress computer tournament

[Ian Osgood]

On Aug 3, 2008, at 12:11 AM, Peter Drake wrote:

The Linux lab is in the Fourth Avenue Building, room 81-03. Leave  
some time to find it; the building is rather labyrinthine.


I'll be there by 8:30 AM Monday, possibly a bit earlier, so  
hopefully people can set up and then go play in the US Open.


Peter Drake
http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/


Here are the preliminary results. The tournament had seven players,  
small enough for a double round robin played on KGS.


 1   2   3   4   5   6   7   | Total
 ---
1. GNU GoXX  11  01  11  11  11  11  |  11
2. Many Faces00  XX  11  11  11  11  11  |  10
3. Leela 10  00  XX  11  11  11  11  |   9
4. House Bot 00  00  00  XX  11  01  11  |   5
5. First Go  00  00  00  00  XX  11  11  |   4
6. Orego 00  00  00  10  00  XX  11  |   3
7. Butter Bot00  00  00  00  00  00  XX  |   0


Peter will soon be responding with a full report and an official web  
page. Stay tuned for Thursday's match between 3000-node MoGo and an 8- 
dan Korean professional!


Notes:
--
In MF-Leela, Many Faces was running at half speed because David  
Fotland's T61 laptop was unplugged!


This version of MF uses Monte Carlo search, and was built in June
(the current work on multi-core Monte Carlo was not ready.)

GNU Go 3.7.10 (level 12) replaced Sluggo due to problems with  
Sluggo's cluster.


First Go was running at a faster time control for its first games due  
to operator error.


In the Leela-GNU match, KGS reported a win for GNU under Japanese rules,
 but the actual result is a win for for Leela under Chinese rules.

During the final round, David Fotland fixed and validated his multi- 
threaded code.
This version of Many Faces won an exhibition game with GNU Go. This  
version will also play in tomorrow's tournament at the European Go  
Congress.


Ian


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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Eric Boesch]

I don't have much useful to say, but I did notice that the gcc-gdc
version accepted as current by Cygwin Update is ancient:

gdc is /usr/bin/gdc
@eboesch ~: gdc --version
gdc (GCC) 3.4.4 (cygming special, gdc 0.12, using dmd 0.125)
Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

Sometimes the use of old versions as "current" in cygwin indicates
problems with the porting of newer ones. This would be analogous to,
and maybe even directly caused by, how cygwin remains stuck in the gcc
3.4 branch even though gcc 4.0 came out years ago.

I downloaded the gdc-gcc binary and tried to install Tango from
source. It creates libgphobos.a and then returns a "module object
cannot read file 'object.d'" error. So I was not successful in
building Tango for cygwin that way.

Bypassing gdc and using dmd seemed like the best bet, but since that
was tried already I thought I would try to stick with gdc. I guess I'm
inclined to bail now.

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Janzert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jason House wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>I misunderstood Jason's email.  He is trying to compile his program to
>>run on windows and it's written in D. You cannot log into a windows
>>computer remotely either without special software.
>>
>>There must be someone on this group who will try to compile your
>> program
>>to run on windows using the digital mars D compiler.Are you using a
>>lot of external libraries?
>>
>>
>> The latest version uses Tango 0.99.7, flex, and bison.  The dependency on
>> flex and bison are for SGF parsing and can be commented out with relative
>> ease (housebot.d has approximately 3 lines that reference sgf).
>>
>> I made a last ditch attempt this morning, downloading "Easy D" from
>> http://www.fsdev.net/versions/show/7 and the HouseBot source from
>> http://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=149506
>>
>> My initial download of the tar.gz failed because the computer didn't have
>> gunzip and tar.  I then downloaded Tortoise SVN from
>> http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads and rebooted.
>>
>> I did not have command line utilities to run compute_version.sh, so I made
>> the following manual hb_version.d file:
>> void gtp_version(){ return "HouseBot 0.7 r811"; }
>>
>> and then ran the equivalent of dmd *.d game/*.d search/*.d -unittest
>> -ofhousebot-0.7
>> To my shock and horror, the digital mars d compiler then crashed.
>>
>> I've been developing with gdc (d variant of gcc) because of it's broader
>> platform compatibility, but that's not part of the easy d distribution.  At
>> that point, I gave up and sent the e-mail.
>>
>>
>
> For reference here's the results of my try building it as well.
> Unfortunately it boils down to not having gotten any farther than you
> and maybe not as far.
>
> I've developed in D but not using tango or dsss before so may have
> gotten something setup wrong.
>
> When first trying to compile I get errors in ipc.d:
> ipc.d(81): no identifier for declarator i
> ipc.d(81): semicolon expected, not '!='
> ipc.d(81): no identifier for declarator i
> ipc.d(81): semicolon expected, not '++'
> ...
>
> Those are repeated for every for statement in the debug block. They
> don't make any sense to me but rather than sort it out I simply
> commented out the block.
>
> After commenting that out I then get:
> C:\housebot\housebot\trunk\housebot>dsss build housebot.d
> housebot.d => housebot-0.7
> Command: warn please make sure to build sgf/parser.o and sgf/lexer.o
> prior to running dsss
> WARNING: please make sure to build sgf/parser.o and sgf/lexer.o prior to
> running dsss
> + C:\dsss\bin\rebuild.exe -Idsss_imports\ -I. -S.\ -IC:\dsss\include\d
> -SC:\dsss
> \lib\  -IC:\dsss\include\d -SC:\dsss\lib  -oqdsss_objs\D -Dddoc/ddoc
> -unittest -
> w -g sgf/parser.o sgf/lexer.o housebot.d -ofhousebot-0.7
> tangoBind.d(110): Error: void initializer has no value
> tangoBind.d(114): Error: Integer constant expression expected instead of
> 0.length
> tangoBind.d(114): Error: Integer constant expression expected instead of
> 0.length
> tangoBind.d(114): Error: Integer constant expression expected instead of
> 0.length
> tangoBind.d(126): template instance tangoBind.isStaticArray_impl!(int[])
> error instantiating
> tangoBind.d(133): template instance tangoBind.isStaticArray!(int[])
> error instantiating
> ... (Repeats the tangobind.d errors several times)
>
> After the initial tangobind.d error it also has a pop-up saying dmd crashed.
>
> A simple helloworld using tango does work but beyond that I may not have
> tango actually installed correctly. I used the current release from
> tango's website which also includes dmd 1.033.
>
> Janzert
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[computer-go] Re: Computer tournament at US Go Congress

[Peter Drake]

To anyone who's here at the Congress:

The American Go Association (most likely the board thereof) is having a meeting
about "Computer / Internet Development" in Smith 229 at 4:00 PM. Since
decisions are made by people who happen to be in the room at the time, it might
be a good idea for us to be there to advocate for computer tournament funding,
rated games for computers, etc.


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[computer-go] Re: Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Basti Weidemyr]

Hi

it is a little bit confusing but we have Fuego running on Fedora from  
a USB-stick now. Steenwreter would be operated by a Wesley Yarde, who  
is indeed attending the congress, but has apparently not managed to  
find us/the computer-go room. Nobody has the files/USB-stick, unless  
he has it.


We could run another program on Linux, however since Housbot requires  
D-libraries, and since it is almost midnight here, we are leaning  
towards calling it a day.


We will probably arrange a game between the winner of a tournament  
and a professional - Saijo or Xiao Ai-Lin, depending on who has time.


See you tomorrow on KGS!

Best regards
Basti Weidemyr



On Aug 5, 2008, at 5:22 PM, John Fan wrote:

I have tried Fedora Live USB Creator. It is very easy to create a  
bootable fedora on usb from windows machine. It literally requires  
only one click. Here is the link -- https://fedorahosted.org/ 
liveusb-creator


On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Basti Weidemyr  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi

A note from the ORGANIZERS:

We are trying to prepare USB-sticks with Linux to boot the  
computers from. It seems we will have 3 sticks - for Fuego, for  
Steenwreter and for for example HouseBot.


Oddly enough the computers will not boot from CD. We have no clues. :)
It will turn out later today whether it works or not, but booting  
linux from a USB-stick worked fine for Gunnar Farnebäck.


Best regards
Basti Weidemyr
sestir

On Aug 5, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Jason House wrote:

I'm not physically attending the EGC.  In order to participate, I  
needed to provide a windows executable and have someone operate  
the bot on my behalf.  I probably should have taken advantage of  
the offer to use a Linux box, but I figured I'd make it easier on  
the organizers :)


On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 08:30 -0400, Jason House wrote:
> I have to withdraw from this tournament.  I don't have a windows
> computer, and getting access to one with the ability to install  
tools

> has been tougher than anticipated.

Why do you need a windows computer?   It's my understanding that they
already supply windows Vista computers for you.   And can't you bring
the software tools you need to install with you on a pen drive or on
cdrom?

- Don



>
> On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 14:53 +0100, Nick Wedd wrote:
> > The European Go Congress (see http://egc2008.eu/en/congress/ 
index.php)

> > will be held in Leksand, Sweden from July 26th to August 9th.  On
> > Wednesday August 6th it will include a Computer Go event (see
> > http://www.computer-go.info/egc2008/).
> >
> > Entry to this is free.  If you would like to enter but cannot  
be there
> > yourself, it should be possible for you to send in your  
program, and I

> > will try to find an operator for it.
> >
> > According to my records, entries so far are:
> >
> >19x199x9
> > CrazyStonepossible possible
> > FirstGo   yes  yes
> > GNU Goprobable probable
> > HouseBot  no   yes
> > Leela probable yes
> > Mango possible possible
> > Many Faces of Go  yes  no
> > Steenvreter   no   yes
> > Toaster   no   possible
> > TSGo  probable no
> > Tuuppari  yes  yes
> > valkyria  possible possible
> > Wei2Goprobable no
> >
> > I expect this table needs correcting and bringing up to date.
> > Corrections and updates may be posted to this list or sent to me
> > privately, as you prefer.  Late entries are also welcome.
> >
> > The programs will be run on Windows Vista PCs in Leksand,  
connected to

> > KGS, where the games will be played.
> >
> > Of the programs listed above, TSGo (by Ivo Tonkes) and  
Tuuppari (by a
> > team of Finnish programmers) have never, so far as I know,  
competed in a
> > KGS tournament.  I would like both those programs to play in a  
trial
> > tournament on KGS, to ensure that they are correctly  
configured for
> > tournament play, rather than finding out that they aren't on  
the day of
> > the event.  I am willing to set up such a trial tournament  
whenever
> > requested - it will use very short time limits, and no-one  
will care who
> > wins, the purpose will be to test their handling of the  
tournament
> > settings.  However I suspect that neither of these programs  
yet has its
> > Windows version in a presentable state.  I hope to hear soon  
from Ivo
> > Tonkes and Mika Urtela about this - if I don't, I shall assume  
that they

> > aren't reading this list, and email them privately.
> >
> > I owe two pints of beer to "the GNU Go team".  I expect to  
deliver these

> > to Gunnar, if he is there to operate GNU Go.  Gunnar will also be
> > speaking on computer Go, after the tournament.
> >
> > Nick
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[computer-go] Kim vs MoGo match Thursday -- NEW LOCATION

[Peter Drake]

(Please propagate this information widely. I will make some posters and put them
up around Smith.)

Thursday, August 7, 1 PM PDT, Kim MyungWan 8p will play against MoGo, the
world's strongest computer Go program. MoGo will be connecting remotely,
running on a European supercomputer using hundreds if not thousands of
processor cores. Mr. Kim, some computer Go programmers, and a crowd of rapt
observers will be in Smith 338 (next to the ballroom).

I'll bring a projector to project the game on the wall. The game will also be
broadcast on KGS in the Computer Go room (one of the "social" rooms).

We'll have a few blitz matches to adjust the handicap, then play a "real" game
with an hour per side.
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Re: [computer-go] Re: Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Jason House]

Actually, a linux executable of housebot has no unusual library
dependencies.  It can be dumped into a directory and run.  That's how it
worked for the American Go Congress.  Even though I've already withdrawn
from the tournament, I'll send out an executable of some kind before in
the next 6 hours or so.  If the tournament director wants the extra
competitor, it'll be available, it just may require linux ;)

PS: Thanks everyone for all their attempts to help.  I'm going to try
and find a developer from the D community with a full windows+tango
setup that can help me out.

On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 23:13 +0200, Basti Weidemyr wrote:
> Hi
> 
> 
> it is a little bit confusing but we have Fuego running on Fedora from
> a USB-stick now. Steenwreter would be operated by a Wesley Yarde, who
> is indeed attending the congress, but has apparently not managed to
> find us/the computer-go room. Nobody has the files/USB-stick, unless
> he has it.
> 
> 
> We could run another program on Linux, however since Housbot requires
> D-libraries, and since it is almost midnight here, we are leaning
> towards calling it a day.
> 
> 
> We will probably arrange a game between the winner of a tournament and
> a professional - Saijo or Xiao Ai-Lin, depending on who has time.
> 
> 
> See you tomorrow on KGS!
> 
> 
> Best regards
> Basti Weidemyr
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 5, 2008, at 5:22 PM, John Fan wrote:
> 
> > I have tried Fedora Live USB Creator. It is very easy to create a
> > bootable fedora on usb from windows machine. It literally requires
> > only one click. Here is the link --
> > https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Basti Weidemyr
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > 
> > A note from the ORGANIZERS:
> > 
> > 
> > We are trying to prepare USB-sticks with Linux to boot the
> > computers from. It seems we will have 3 sticks - for Fuego,
> > for Steenwreter and for for example HouseBot.
> > 
> > 
> > Oddly enough the computers will not boot from CD. We have no
> > clues. :)
> > It will turn out later today whether it works or not, but
> > booting linux from a USB-stick worked fine for Gunnar
> > Farnebäck.
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards
> > Basti Weidemyr
> > sestir
> > 
> > 
> > On Aug 5, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Jason House wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm not physically attending the EGC.  In order to
> > > participate, I needed to provide a windows executable and
> > > have someone operate the bot on my behalf.  I probably
> > > should have taken advantage of the offer to use a Linux
> > > box, but I figured I'd make it easier on the organizers :)
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Don Dailey
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 08:30 -0400, Jason House
> > > wrote:
> > > > I have to withdraw from this tournament.  I
> > > don't have a windows
> > > > computer, and getting access to one with the
> > > ability to install tools
> > > > has been tougher than anticipated.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Why do you need a windows computer?   It's my
> > > understanding that they
> > > already supply windows Vista computers for you.
> > > And can't you bring
> > > the software tools you need to install with you on
> > > a pen drive or on
> > > cdrom?
> > > 
> > > - Don
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 14:53 +0100, Nick Wedd
> > > wrote:
> > > > > The European Go Congress (see
> > > http://egc2008.eu/en/congress/index.php)
> > > > > will be held in Leksand, Sweden from July 26th
> > > to August 9th.  On
> > > > > Wednesday August 6th it will include a
> > > Computer Go event (see
> > > > > http://www.computer-go.info/egc2008/).
> > > > >
> > > > > Entry to this is free.  If you would like to
> > > enter but cannot be there
> > > > > yourself, it should be possible for you to
> > > send in your program, and I
> > > > > will try to find an operator for it.
> > > > >
> > > > > According to my records, entries so far are:
> > > > >
> > > > >19x199x9
> > > > > CrazyStonepossible

[computer-go] CGOS Viewer

[Janzert]

Just wanted to mention that the download links to the cgos viewer seem 
to have been broken with the recent server move.


Janzert
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Re: [computer-go] CGOS Viewer

[Don Dailey]

On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 21:13 -0400, Janzert wrote:
> Just wanted to mention that the download links to the cgos viewer seem 
> to have been broken with the recent server move.

Woops,  sorry about that.   It should be good to go now.

- Don



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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournament at EGC, Leksand, Sweden

[Jason House]

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

There must be someone on this group who will try to compile your  
program

to run on windows


We're now up to 5 people who have tried (or 3 after my initial post on  
this topic). I would like to thank everyone who tried to help. The  
final attempt was by an overly enthusiastic helper that tried to track  
down the dmd compiler crash, fixed the flex install within cygwin, and  
tried 4 versions of gdc... The last of which being a compile of gcc  
from source with gdc included.


Do you use the digital mars compiler or the gnu based compiler?  Do  
you

think it would work on either?


I now think it'll work on neither. Something about my template usage  
in game/go.d is crashing the digital mars compiler. GDC is has not  
made a recent release, but a recent version is required. Sadly, it is  
nearly impossible to build from scratch on Windows.









- Don



On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 15:19 +0200, Urban Hafner wrote:

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Jason House wrote:
| I have to withdraw from this tournament.  I don't have a windows
| computer, and getting access to one with the ability to install  
tools

| has been tougher than anticipated.

It's actually my fault. But the combination of my lack of Windows
knowledge (believe it or not, I've never compiled a program on
Windows!), the relatively new language (D) and the libraries needed  
made

it impossible to provide a Windows build in time.

My apologies for the short notice.

Urban
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RE: [computer-go] Location for US Go Congress computer tournament

[David Fotland]

After the tournament I accidentally played two more games against gnugo
(GnuTwo) on KGS, and won them both, so the new version beat gnugo 3 of 3.

Apparently the GnuTwo machine was still on in the computer lab and connected
to KGS.  When I turned on my computer to read e-mail, my kgs script
connected to KGS and the server started another game between ManyFaces1 and
GnuTwo.  I noticed my laptop was really slow, but it had almost finished a
game before I figured out what was going on.  SO I let it finish that one
and play a third one.

David

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:computer-go-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Osgood
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:19 PM
> To: computer-go
> Subject: Re: [computer-go] Location for US Go Congress computer
> tournament
> 
> 
> On Aug 3, 2008, at 12:11 AM, Peter Drake wrote:
> 
> > The Linux lab is in the Fourth Avenue Building, room 81-03. Leave
> > some time to find it; the building is rather labyrinthine.
> >
> > I'll be there by 8:30 AM Monday, possibly a bit earlier, so
> > hopefully people can set up and then go play in the US Open.
> >
> > Peter Drake
> > http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/
> 
> Here are the preliminary results. The tournament had seven players,
> small enough for a double round robin played on KGS.
> 
>   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   | Total
>   ---
> 1. GNU GoXX  11  01  11  11  11  11  |  11
> 2. Many Faces00  XX  11  11  11  11  11  |  10
> 3. Leela 10  00  XX  11  11  11  11  |   9
> 4. House Bot 00  00  00  XX  11  01  11  |   5
> 5. First Go  00  00  00  00  XX  11  11  |   4
> 6. Orego 00  00  00  10  00  XX  11  |   3
> 7. Butter Bot00  00  00  00  00  00  XX  |   0
> 
> 
> Peter will soon be responding with a full report and an official web
> page. Stay tuned for Thursday's match between 3000-node MoGo and an 8-
> dan Korean professional!
> 
> Notes:
> --
> In MF-Leela, Many Faces was running at half speed because David
> Fotland's T61 laptop was unplugged!
> 
> This version of MF uses Monte Carlo search, and was built in June
> (the current work on multi-core Monte Carlo was not ready.)
> 
> GNU Go 3.7.10 (level 12) replaced Sluggo due to problems with
> Sluggo's cluster.
> 
> First Go was running at a faster time control for its first games due
> to operator error.
> 
> In the Leela-GNU match, KGS reported a win for GNU under Japanese
> rules,
>   but the actual result is a win for for Leela under Chinese rules.
> 
> During the final round, David Fotland fixed and validated his multi-
> threaded code.
> This version of Many Faces won an exhibition game with GNU Go. This
> version will also play in tomorrow's tournament at the European Go
> Congress.
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
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