Re: Running apps compiled for newer OS X versions on older versions (rant)
> On 22 Aug 2016, at 2:27 pm, Andreas Falkenhahn wrote: > > On 22.08.2016 at 13:34 Alastair Houghton wrote: > > >>> On 22 Aug 2016, at 12:15, Andreas Falkenhahn wrote: >>> Out of curiosity, I've just run a little test and compiled my app on the >>> 10.11 system for the 10.11 target and tried to run it on the 10.6 system, >>> just to see what happens. All I got is a message "Illegal instruction" >>> printed to stdout, or, when starting the app through Finder, a message >>> dialog telling me that the app has crashed and needs to be shut down. >>> Optionally, it offered me to send a crash report to Apple. > >>> That was quite a surprise to me. I mean, this is the 21st century, I think >>> one could at least expect a message dialog telling the user that this app >>> needs at least Mac OS 10.11 or something, but no, it just crashed, leaving >>> the user quite clueless as to why it did so. > >> The trick here is that you need to set the LSMinimumSystemVersion >> key in your Info.plist (this appears in Xcode as “Minimum system version”). > > Ah, ok, thanks! It's probably also worth noting that you *can* compile for 10.6 using the tools on 10.11 by adjusting the deployment target. The only things you need to watch out for are the fact that you're compiling against the 10.11 SDK which will happily let you use APIs that didn't exist in previous incarnations of OS X, which will obviously cause your app to crash on those older versions. Also beware of any new projects you start, as their Interface Builder files will be set to use auto-layout and won't automatically set their deployment target to that of the project's main target. If you're careful, there's no reason why you can't create and compile something on 10.11 and have it run happily on 10.6 (or even further back if you're feeling adventurous!) Mark ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Running apps compiled for newer OS X versions on older versions (rant)
On 5 Sep 2016, at 13:48, Mark Allan wrote: > > It's probably also worth noting that you *can* compile for 10.6 using the > tools on 10.11 by adjusting the deployment target. This is *usually* but not always true. There are sometimes backwards compatibility problems that require you to use older build tools or SDKs. (The most annoying case is if you need a KEXT for some reason, in which case you definitely can’t build KEXTs compatible with 10.6 using the 10.11 SDK; in fact, you can’t even build KEXTs compatible with *10.10* with the 10.11 SDK, which is a PITA because Xcode 7 dropped the 10.10 SDK and Xcode 6 won’t even run on 10.11...) Another thing to watch out for is that some APIs change behaviour based on the system on which your code was built; this happens because of backwards compatibility measures built in to OS X itself, but can be a problem if you take older code and just rebuild it with a newer Xcode without going through checking everything. Often the changes are subtle and won’t matter too much, but you can’t assume that will always be the case - e.g. I remember one instance where a load of percentages magically multiplied themselves by 100 because of changes in the way NSNumberFormatter works. So, yes, this is your first point of call, but you will need to go and check that your code genuinely does work on the system you’re targeting because occasionally things are not quite as simple as they seem. Kind regards, Alastair. -- http://alastairs-place.net ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
How to silently use Proxy authentication credentials from Keychain, like Safari, Mail, etc.
Hello everyone. We use C++ boost asyncio for cross-platform networking. Hence, on Mac OS-X, we can’t use higher-level APIs (such as NSURLSession). We use our own proprietary binary protocol, but we need to pass it sometimes through HTTP Proxy on client sites. We use the “HTTP Connect” command to make a secure tunnel through the proxy, and work as normal. This works fine (Mac, LinuX, Windows etc.) when we provide proxy configuration of our own. Now I’m trying to integrate with the OS-X normal proxy settings. I found the great (if old) code-sample CFProxySupportTool, read lots of documentation, and was able to neatly read and support HTTP, HTTPS, Auto-Configured and PAC based settings. Yet, the credential keys in CFProxySupport (username and password) are normally empty, as they are stored in the keychain. I found a way to find and read credentials from the key-chain, but my test tool always triggers a dialog, asking the user permission to allow it access to the key-chain. Very reasonable for an App. I tried this as root (our product is a monitoring tool, running as a systemwide daemon, managed by launchd, running always running as root) but that only complicated things further - not only the dialog popped up - my code no longer accessed the correct key-chain (the login key-chain of the active user) but rather the system key-chain where the credentials are missing. My questions: 1. Why don’t Safari, Mail, Photos, and other standard apps trigger such dialog when they clearly use proxy settings (including credentials) to go to the internet? Is this behavior acceptable, and how is it done? 2. All proxy settings seem to be system-wide. Why do the credentials reside in the active user’s Login keychain, instead of the “System” keychain? Is there at all a way (except for manually editing the keychains) to set-up proxies for ALL users, including credentials? 3. Could I, at the time of installation of my product, ask once for this access, and have this “trust” saved for my installed daemon? That will be acceptable, as IT install our tool, and have rights for this. If this is possible - where and how could I do it? 4. Could I avoid the whole proxy-authentication protocol, and use some OS-X API that would do it for me (in the likes of NSURLSession) Is there some official lower-level API to do this? Otherwise I need to implement all kinds of authentication schemes (kerberos, NTLM, digest etc.), which seems silly on an OS that already knows how to do it? Clearly OS implementation will be superior to mine... Any hint will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Motti Shneor ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Window Opened Notification?
Hi All, Is there any way other that using Accessibility that you can tell when a window is opened is any application? Something like a running app notification? If it is not possible using Cocoa? Is there any way of doing this via the Window Server? All the Best Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Window Opened Notification?
> On 5 Sep 2016, at 18:27, dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com wrote: > > Not really. > You could use CGWindowList but you'll be polling. I was wondering if it would be possible to make the Window list Key-Value observable? I’m Trying to avoid running a timer and polling the Window list. Cheers Dave > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:09 AM, Dave wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Is there any way other that using Accessibility that you can tell when a >> window is opened is any application? Something like a running app >> notification? >> >> If it is not possible using Cocoa? Is there any way of doing this via the >> Window Server? >> >> All the Best >> Dave >> >> >> ___ >> >> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >> >> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >> >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/dangerwillrobinsondanger%40gmail.com >> >> This email sent to dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Limiting app installation
Does Apple allow a developer to limit the number of devices on which an app can run? I have an app that requires you to pay more to install it on more than one iPhone and two iPads. It should go without saying these are all on the same Apple ID. I thought Apple didn't allow this. But maybe they just don't provide a mechanism for imposing this limitation, but don't prevent developers from implementing their own? TIA, -- Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Window Opened Notification?
> Would it be possible to observe which window becomes the front window and > then send a notification? > That’s what I am trying to find out…… Cheers Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to silently use Proxy authentication credentials from Keychain, like Safari, Mail, etc.
> On Sep 5, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Motti Shneor wrote: > > 1. Why don’t Safari, Mail, Photos, and other standard apps trigger such > dialog when they clearly use proxy settings (including credentials) to go to > the internet? Is this behavior acceptable, and how is it done? Those apps are signed by Apple, so they’re automatically trusted. Note that the Keychain permission alert only appears _once_ for any app. You may be seeing it every time you run your code, but that’s because every time you change the code, it makes the app look different to the system. (You can get around this by signing the app; then the signature remains the same between launches.) > 2. All proxy settings seem to be system-wide. Why do the credentials reside > in the active user’s Login keychain, instead of the “System” keychain? Is > there at all a way (except for manually editing the keychains) to set-up > proxies for ALL users, including credentials? Have you verified that different users inherit the same proxy settings? If so, I agree that it’s odd that the credentials would be in the Login keychain. > 3. Could I, at the time of installation of my product, ask once for this > access, and have this “trust” saved for my installed daemon? That will be > acceptable, as IT install our tool, and have rights for this. If this is > possible - where and how could I do it? I don’t know. It may be related to the way that app helper processes are authenticated, i.e. being signed with related certs. But this isn’t something I’ve ever done. One other possibility is: * Installer gets the proxy settings, including getting user permission to access credentials * Installer saves the settings & credentials into a file only accessible to root * Daemon reads the settings from that file > 4. Could I avoid the whole proxy-authentication protocol, and use some OS-X > API that would do it for me (in the likes of NSURLSession) Is there some > official lower-level API to do this? Otherwise I need to implement all kinds > of authentication schemes (kerberos, NTLM, digest etc.), which seems silly on > an OS that already knows how to do it? Clearly OS implementation will be > superior to mine... I think NSURLSession is the only API that includes proxy support. For some reason CFStream doesn’t, even though it can do HTTP requests. —Jens ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Limiting app installation
My bet would be "no" as that would already be part of submitting an app to the store. You could prepare a business case to request this from Apple, but I'd suspect you'll need to roll your own code, and that won't be easy if not impossible without Apple's support. Perhaps Enterprise or B-2-B distribution supports this somehow; it's been a while since I've done enterprise apps. Good luck! Gary On Sep 5, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Rick Mann wrote: Does Apple allow a developer to limit the number of devices on which an app can run? I have an app that requires you to pay more to install it on more than one iPhone and two iPads. It should go without saying these are all on the same Apple ID. I thought Apple didn't allow this. But maybe they just don't provide a mechanism for imposing this limitation, but don't prevent developers from implementing their own? TIA, -- Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/toothpic%40fastq.com This email sent to tooth...@fastq.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Limiting app installation
Yeah, I know one has to roll their own. I'm asking if it's allowed by Apple. > On Sep 5, 2016, at 13:34 , M Pulis wrote: > > My bet would be "no" as that would already be part of submitting an app to > the store. > > You could prepare a business case to request this from Apple, but I'd suspect > you'll need to roll your own code, and that won't be easy if not impossible > without Apple's support. > > Perhaps Enterprise or B-2-B distribution supports this somehow; it's been a > while since I've done enterprise apps. > > Good luck! > > Gary > > > On Sep 5, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Rick Mann wrote: > >> Does Apple allow a developer to limit the number of devices on which an app >> can run? I have an app that requires you to pay more to install it on more >> than one iPhone and two iPads. It should go without saying these are all on >> the same Apple ID. >> >> I thought Apple didn't allow this. But maybe they just don't provide a >> mechanism for imposing this limitation, but don't prevent developers from >> implementing their own? >> >> TIA, >> >> -- >> Rick Mann >> rm...@latencyzero.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >> >> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >> >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/toothpic%40fastq.com >> >> This email sent to tooth...@fastq.com > -- Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Limiting app installation
On Sep 5, 2016, at 13:35 , Rick Mann wrote: > > I'm asking if it's allowed by Apple. I think your restriction falls foul of: > 2.4.5 Apps distributed via the Mac App Store … > > (vi) They may not present a license screen at launch, require license keys, > or implement their own copy protection. and: > 3.1.4 Content Codes: Apps may not use their own mechanisms to unlock content > or functionality, such as license keys, augmented reality markers, QR codes, > etc. For example, if you run a server to keep track of the device counts, the interaction between the device and the server [that sends the (?) Apple ID and gets back a permission] sounds exactly like your own “mechanism” for implementing “license keys”. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Limiting app installation
If it isn't listed in the app store guidelines, either go for it or ask Apple directly (perhaps a different mailing list) as this off- topic (not a cocoa issue but a distribution issue). Gary On Sep 5, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Rick Mann wrote: Yeah, I know one has to roll their own. I'm asking if it's allowed by Apple. On Sep 5, 2016, at 13:34 , M Pulis wrote: My bet would be "no" as that would already be part of submitting an app to the store. You could prepare a business case to request this from Apple, but I'd suspect you'll need to roll your own code, and that won't be easy if not impossible without Apple's support. Perhaps Enterprise or B-2-B distribution supports this somehow; it's been a while since I've done enterprise apps. Good luck! Gary On Sep 5, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Rick Mann wrote: Does Apple allow a developer to limit the number of devices on which an app can run? I have an app that requires you to pay more to install it on more than one iPhone and two iPads. It should go without saying these are all on the same Apple ID. I thought Apple didn't allow this. But maybe they just don't provide a mechanism for imposing this limitation, but don't prevent developers from implementing their own? TIA, -- Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/toothpic%40fastq.com This email sent to tooth...@fastq.com -- Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Limiting app installation
Fine, can you suggest a better list? > On Sep 5, 2016, at 14:08 , M Pulis wrote: > > If it isn't listed in the app store guidelines, either go for it or ask Apple > directly (perhaps a different mailing list) as this off-topic (not a cocoa > issue but a distribution issue). > > Gary > > On Sep 5, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Rick Mann wrote: > >> Yeah, I know one has to roll their own. I'm asking if it's allowed by Apple. >> >>> On Sep 5, 2016, at 13:34 , M Pulis wrote: >>> >>> My bet would be "no" as that would already be part of submitting an app to >>> the store. >>> >>> You could prepare a business case to request this from Apple, but I'd >>> suspect you'll need to roll your own code, and that won't be easy if not >>> impossible without Apple's support. >>> >>> Perhaps Enterprise or B-2-B distribution supports this somehow; it's been a >>> while since I've done enterprise apps. >>> >>> Good luck! >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> >>> On Sep 5, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Rick Mann wrote: >>> Does Apple allow a developer to limit the number of devices on which an app can run? I have an app that requires you to pay more to install it on more than one iPhone and two iPads. It should go without saying these are all on the same Apple ID. I thought Apple didn't allow this. But maybe they just don't provide a mechanism for imposing this limitation, but don't prevent developers from implementing their own? TIA, -- Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/toothpic%40fastq.com This email sent to tooth...@fastq.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Rick Mann >> rm...@latencyzero.com >> >> >> > -- Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Window Opened Notification?
Not sure if it's KVO observable but NSWorkspace might be worth looking into as well as NSRunningApplication Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2016, at 3:55 AM, Dave wrote: >> Would it be possible to observe which window becomes the front window and >> then send a notification? > > That’s what I am trying to find out…… > > Cheers > Dave > > > > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/dangerwillrobinsondanger%40gmail.com > > This email sent to dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Limiting app installation
Have you even read the App Store guidelines yet? And Apple has a list of lists... try that. Finding you a list is still not a cocoa issue. Gary On Sep 5, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Rick Mann wrote: Fine, can you suggest a better list? On Sep 5, 2016, at 14:08 , M Pulis wrote: If it isn't listed in the app store guidelines, either go for it or ask Apple directly (perhaps a different mailing list) as this off- topic (not a cocoa issue but a distribution issue). Gary On Sep 5, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Rick Mann wrote: Yeah, I know one has to roll their own. I'm asking if it's allowed by Apple. On Sep 5, 2016, at 13:34 , M Pulis wrote: My bet would be "no" as that would already be part of submitting an app to the store. You could prepare a business case to request this from Apple, but I'd suspect you'll need to roll your own code, and that won't be easy if not impossible without Apple's support. Perhaps Enterprise or B-2-B distribution supports this somehow; it's been a while since I've done enterprise apps. Good luck! Gary On Sep 5, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Rick Mann wrote: Does Apple allow a developer to limit the number of devices on which an app can run? I have an app that requires you to pay more to install it on more than one iPhone and two iPads. It should go without saying these are all on the same Apple ID. I thought Apple didn't allow this. But maybe they just don't provide a mechanism for imposing this limitation, but don't prevent developers from implementing their own? TIA, -- Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/toothpic%40fastq.com This email sent to tooth...@fastq.com -- Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com -- Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Limiting app installation
The developer forums are also a good place. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 6, 2016, at 6:28 AM, M Pulis wrote: > > Have you even read the App Store guidelines yet? > > And Apple has a list of lists... try that. > > Finding you a list is still not a cocoa issue. > > Gary > > >> On Sep 5, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Rick Mann wrote: >> >> Fine, can you suggest a better list? >> >>> On Sep 5, 2016, at 14:08 , M Pulis wrote: >>> >>> If it isn't listed in the app store guidelines, either go for it or ask >>> Apple directly (perhaps a different mailing list) as this off-topic (not a >>> cocoa issue but a distribution issue). >>> >>> Gary >>> On Sep 5, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Rick Mann wrote: Yeah, I know one has to roll their own. I'm asking if it's allowed by Apple. > On Sep 5, 2016, at 13:34 , M Pulis wrote: > > My bet would be "no" as that would already be part of submitting an app > to the store. > > You could prepare a business case to request this from Apple, but I'd > suspect you'll need to roll your own code, and that won't be easy if not > impossible without Apple's support. > > Perhaps Enterprise or B-2-B distribution supports this somehow; it's been > a while since I've done enterprise apps. > > Good luck! > > Gary > > >> On Sep 5, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Rick Mann wrote: >> >> Does Apple allow a developer to limit the number of devices on which an >> app can run? I have an app that requires you to pay more to install it >> on more than one iPhone and two iPads. It should go without saying these >> are all on the same Apple ID. >> >> I thought Apple didn't allow this. But maybe they just don't provide a >> mechanism for imposing this limitation, but don't prevent developers >> from implementing their own? >> >> TIA, >> >> -- >> Rick Mann >> rm...@latencyzero.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >> >> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >> >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/toothpic%40fastq.com >> >> This email sent to tooth...@fastq.com -- Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com >> >> >> -- >> Rick Mann >> rm...@latencyzero.com > > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/dangerwillrobinsondanger%40gmail.com > > This email sent to dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Window Opened Notification?
There are examples online for making NSArray observable if these are array structures. If you try this path, try it with a simple case where you make an NSArray and then change it. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:25 PM, dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com wrote: > > Not sure if it's KVO observable but NSWorkspace might be worth looking into > as well as NSRunningApplication > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 6, 2016, at 3:55 AM, Dave wrote: > >>> Would it be possible to observe which window becomes the front window and >>> then send a notification? >> >> That’s what I am trying to find out…… >> >> Cheers >> Dave >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >> >> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >> >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/dangerwillrobinsondanger%40gmail.com >> >> This email sent to dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com > > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/zav%40mac.com > > This email sent to z...@mac.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Window Opened Notification?
The two key properties in NSWorkspace ARE KVO observable. Reading the docs was easy ;) frontmostApplication And menuBarOwningApplication Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 6, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Alex Zavatone wrote: > > There are examples online for making NSArray observable if these are array > structures. > > If you try this path, try it with a simple case where you make an NSArray and > then change it. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:25 PM, dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Not sure if it's KVO observable but NSWorkspace might be worth looking into >> as well as NSRunningApplication >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 6, 2016, at 3:55 AM, Dave wrote: >> Would it be possible to observe which window becomes the front window and then send a notification? >>> >>> That’s what I am trying to find out…… >>> >>> Cheers >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> >>> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >>> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >>> >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/dangerwillrobinsondanger%40gmail.com >>> >>> This email sent to dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com >> >> ___ >> >> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >> >> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >> >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/zav%40mac.com >> >> This email sent to z...@mac.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Window Opened Notification?
Dave, can you clarify whether you want is: 1. a notification when the frontmost window changes, or 2. a notification when some application opens a new window? If #1, observing these NSWorkspace properties looks like the way to go. If #2, bear in mind that applications can open windows that don't become the active window. For example, it is possible to open links in emails, tweets, etc., that cause the browser to open a new window in the background. The link might not open a new window at all, but rather a new tab in an existing browser window. I'm guessing you want #1, which is fortunately the easy (or easier) case. :) Just checking. --Andy On Sep 5, 2016, at 7:58 PM, dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com wrote: > > The two key properties in NSWorkspace > ARE > KVO observable. > Reading the docs was easy ;) > frontmostApplication > And > menuBarOwningApplication > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 6, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Alex Zavatone wrote: >> >> There are examples online for making NSArray observable if these are array >> structures. >> >> If you try this path, try it with a simple case where you make an NSArray >> and then change it. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:25 PM, dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Not sure if it's KVO observable but NSWorkspace might be worth looking into >>> as well as NSRunningApplication >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 3:55 AM, Dave wrote: >>> > Would it be possible to observe which window becomes the front window and > then send a notification? That’s what I am trying to find out…… Cheers Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/dangerwillrobinsondanger%40gmail.com This email sent to dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> >>> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >>> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >>> >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/zav%40mac.com >>> >>> This email sent to z...@mac.com > > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/aglee%40mac.com > > This email sent to ag...@mac.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Limiting app installation
A consumable in-app purchase could be used for this. They are not restored to other devices. However if the user deleted the app and reinstalled it then the purchase would be lost unless you tracked it via some form of online account. On Monday, September 5, 2016, Rick Mann wrote: > Does Apple allow a developer to limit the number of devices on which an > app can run? I have an app that requires you to pay more to install it on > more than one iPhone and two iPads. It should go without saying these are > all on the same Apple ID. > > I thought Apple didn't allow this. But maybe they just don't provide a > mechanism for imposing this limitation, but don't prevent developers from > implementing their own? > > TIA, > > -- > Rick Mann > rm...@latencyzero.com > > > > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com ) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/websites%40paperetto.com > > This email sent to websi...@paperetto.com -- David Brittain da...@paperetto.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Limiting app installation
> Does Apple allow a developer to limit the number of devices on which an app > can run? I have an app that requires you to pay more to install it on more > than one iPhone and two iPads. It should go without saying these are all on > the same Apple ID. > > I thought Apple didn't allow this. But maybe they just don't provide a > mechanism for imposing this limitation, but don't prevent developers from > implementing their own? The EULA tells personal users that they can install an app on any device they own, and business users that it can either be installed on all devices controlled by one user or on a single device shared among multiple users. I would expect attempts to override that promise to be frowned upon. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
