Stus-List thanks for all your effort

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Stu,

I manage numerous sites and locations so I know the amount of effort this
takes. I want to make sure you know the pleasure (and value) I get from this
site . thanks for all your help

 

George Cone

C &C 40 - LaVida

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Stus-List c&C 24 rudder detail

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Ed, I am based in Burlington too, and I also have the  details of water in
the rudder (on a 40), I drilled the 2 holes, one at the top and one in the
bottom in the fall(so that it could possibly drain better, it was still
weeping last weekend when I sealed the holes back up for the summer, I'll
probably redrill them in the fall. So plan that it will take time to get the
water out, I would recommend in your case you consider taking the rudder
home in the fall and leaving it in the furnace room for the winter with the
holes in it. Marine Tex is a wonder sealer for the summer, and fast

 

George Cone 

C&C 40 La Vida

 

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Stus-List Set up of shower in Cockpit

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I wanted to run a thought by the list to see if my thoughts to install a
small handheld shower in the back of the cockpit for rinse of and showering
at the area of the wheel are feasible. My positive reasons for this is extra
room and ease of draining and overall cleaning. I am considering connecting
to the input hot water line before it enters the water heater coming from
the engine. The boat is on fresh water , hence I would have unlimited volume
of water available, I assume the water would be pure and clean even though
it has gone through the engine cooling (heating) system, I also assume the
temperature of the water to only be in the 110 degree level at best, and
there is a recirculating pump (that normally recirculates the water from the
engine through the heat exchanger) that can power the water to the shower
wand.  So where is my thinking flawed?

 

Thanks,

George Cone

C&C 40

Vermont

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Stus-List cockpit shower

[George Cone via CnC-List]

The recirculating pump I mentioned is the pump that pulls the water from the
engine and circulates it through the heat exchanger within the water heater.
I am surprised the engine has a thermostat as high as 160 degrees. It is raw
water cooled. 160 degrees sounds like my shower would be good for cooking
lobsters! I guess I probably need to tie into the hot water line, I was just
liking the thought of unlimited water availability.

Thanks,

George

C&C 40 

 

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Re: Stus-List IPad Question...

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Or you can get a vanilla android tablet for $80- $100 that has built in GPS and 
do the same thing and not worry if it gets wet.

Thanks,

George

C&C 40

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 11:18 AM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List IPad Question...

 

or you can buy a 10" Samsung Galaxy Tab with GPS for $250.  Add Navionics for 
$10.  Poof!  Chartplotter.

Dennis C.

 

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I have been looking into this and there is an excellent solution.   You can 
plug your onboard GPS into a wifi transmitter and receive the signal anywhere 
on your boat on your Ipad.   This is compatible with INavx and other software.  
 You can also transmit AIS if you have an AIS receiver and receive it on the 
Ipad (or any Android device) through INavx or other software.   This is the 
future of onboard navigation.   Here are some transmitters though there are 
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Re: Stus-List IPad Question...

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Sure, what year type ipod 

George 

C&C 40

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 1:12 PM
To: CNC CNC
Cc: David
Subject: Re: Stus-List IPad Question...

 

Anybody wanna trade a 64GB IPad for a Vanilla Android with GPS...

 Emoji  

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)



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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 12:03:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List IPad Question...
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: davidrisc...@msn.com

Now that is a viable solution... Does one obtain a "vanilla" Android tablet 
from E-Bay or ?

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)



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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 11:34:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List IPad Question...
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: gc...@alpinesy.com

Or you can get a vanilla android tablet for $80- $100 that has built in GPS and 
do the same thing and not worry if it gets wet.

Thanks,

George

C&C 40

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 11:18 AM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List IPad Question...

 

or you can buy a 10" Samsung Galaxy Tab with GPS for $250.  Add Navionics for 
$10.  Poof!  Chartplotter.

Dennis C.

 

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I have been looking into this and there is an excellent solution.   You can 
plug your onboard GPS into a wifi transmitter and receive the signal anywhere 
on your boat on your Ipad.   This is compatible with INavx and other software.  
 You can also transmit AIS if you have an AIS receiver and receive it on the 
Ipad (or any Android device) through INavx or other software.   This is the 
future of onboard navigation.   Here are some transmitters though there are 
many others.   Jerry - J&J


 

 


 

 


 



 


 

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Re: Stus-List Got a New 135% Head Sail

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I picked up a new headsail - 135% furling for my C&C40 last year. The
quality, design was very high, all the features were included, for a little
less than what you spent, I compare it to the Rolly mail from the fear
before and it is just as good.  It was the challenge Marblehead fabric

 

George Cone

C&C 40

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny
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Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:45 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Danny Haughey
Subject: Re: Stus-List Got a New 135% Head Sail

 

Hi Andy,

 

Thank Joel!!

 

Correction I got the 


Challenge Marblehead / Fibre 104 Dacron


the sail, delivered was $3555 and they broke it into 3 payments for me.
>From the completion of design to the delivery was 2 weeks!

 

I'm going to unroll it along side the rolly tasker tonight and take some
photos.

 

Danny



-- Original Message --
From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Got a New 135% Head Sail
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 16:34:56 -0500

How much was it, Danny?

Andy

C&C 40

Peregrine

 

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List
 wrote:

Hello all,

I just received my new head sail from Precision sail loft last night!  I'll
be unrolling it tonight to have a first look.  I took a chance to order
online from this Canadian based company.  The sail was built in Sri Lanka
from what I can tell.  I ordered the Challenge High Modulus Dacron.

 

My question is, what should I be looking for as I inspect the new sail?  I
plan on comparing the old Rolly Tasker head sail and the relatively new
seeming Main.  Other than that, I don't really know enough about sails to
know if I got what I paid for.  I'll probably unroll it and snap a bunch of
pics if anyone would be interested.

 

Thanks for any insights and advice you may be able to offer.

 

Danny

T40
Rum Runner IV
Mattapoisett, MA


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Newport, RI
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Re: Stus-List Emergency Tiller Bracket Squeaking

[George Cone via CnC-List]

On my 40 I had the same problem, the steering became very “tight” or “hard”, I 
tied to add grease thru the fitting into the lower tube bad it was too far gone 
I guess, the yard at considerable expense had four guys pulling the rudder down 
after the quadrant and all had to be taken off, the rudder shaft polished and 
tube cleaned. Now it’s great but after 12 hours of Yard time. So get in there 
and locate your fitting and fill it before it becomes too late.

 

George

C&C 40

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew 
Burton via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 2:08 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andrew Burton
Subject: Re: Stus-List Emergency Tiller Bracket Squeaking

 

Yes, the lower tube. Not only got rid of the squeak for me ,  but freed up the 
steering so driving became a real pleasure.

 

Andy


Andrew Burton

61 W Narragansett

Newport, RI 

USA02840

 

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

+401 965-5260


On Jun 15, 2015, at 14:01, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi Andy,

 

Thanks for the reply.  Are you talking about the lower tube where the post goes 
into the glass tube and ultimately out the bottom, or the top of the tube where 
it meets the cockpit floor?.  I put quite a bit of grease in the lower fitting 
last year in a futile attempt to get rid of the squeak.  The only thing that 
seems to help is getting some lube on the emergency tiller bracket in my case.

 

Jim

 

Sent from Windows Mail

 

From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎June‎ ‎15‎, ‎2015 ‎12‎:‎44‎ ‎PM
To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Cc: Andrew Burton  

 

My 40 and the 41 I'm delivering south from St John, NB at the moment both have 
grease fitting on the tube. These are packed with grease and you give them a 
turn every now and then to lube the tube. Mine hadn't been done for quite some 
time so it needed to be repacked twice before I was confident there was enough 
grease in there. That eliminated the squeak for me.

 

Andy

C&C 40

Peregrine

Andrew Burton

61 W Narragansett

Newport, RI 

USA02840

 

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

+401 965-5260


On Jun 15, 2015, at 13:20, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List  
wrote:

Jim,  I do have a cover at my emergency tiller stock, but it doesn't keep the 
water out. I have not experienced the squeak at the stock so can't offer advice 
there. Is it possible to use something a bit heavier than McLube, but lighter 
than standard grease. Triflow or similar?

 

Kevin 

30-2 Osprey

 

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 3:21 PM Jim Reinardy via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hello All,

 

I have a persistent squeak when I turn the wheel on my 30-2.  I have traced it 
to the emergency tiller bracket in the back of the cockpit.I can spray 
McLube in there and it will go away for a short time, but always comes back, 
especially after a rain.   Was there originally a cover on the bracket, BTW?

 

I don’t see a grease fitting like the lower part of the shaft has, or another 
way to get a better lubricant in there.  

 

Anyone had this issue before?  I am reluctant to remove the bracket for fear of 
causing larger issues with the steering system, so reassurance there would also 
be helpful.

 

Thanks,

 

Jim Reinardy

C&C 30-2 “Firewater”

Milwaukee, WI 

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Re: Stus-List Emergency Tiller Bracket Squeaking

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I needed to add that I removed the top bearing you describe, and it helped a 
little but only for short times and was not successful, it actually comes our 
quite easy, just nuts and bolts and slides out the top.

George

C&C 40

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew 
Burton via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 2:08 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andrew Burton
Subject: Re: Stus-List Emergency Tiller Bracket Squeaking

 

Yes, the lower tube. Not only got rid of the squeak for me ,  but freed up the 
steering so driving became a real pleasure.

 

Andy


Andrew Burton

61 W Narragansett

Newport, RI 

USA02840

 

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

+401 965-5260


On Jun 15, 2015, at 14:01, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi Andy,

 

Thanks for the reply.  Are you talking about the lower tube where the post goes 
into the glass tube and ultimately out the bottom, or the top of the tube where 
it meets the cockpit floor?.  I put quite a bit of grease in the lower fitting 
last year in a futile attempt to get rid of the squeak.  The only thing that 
seems to help is getting some lube on the emergency tiller bracket in my case.

 

Jim

 

Sent from Windows Mail

 

From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎June‎ ‎15‎, ‎2015 ‎12‎:‎44‎ ‎PM
To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Cc: Andrew Burton  

 

My 40 and the 41 I'm delivering south from St John, NB at the moment both have 
grease fitting on the tube. These are packed with grease and you give them a 
turn every now and then to lube the tube. Mine hadn't been done for quite some 
time so it needed to be repacked twice before I was confident there was enough 
grease in there. That eliminated the squeak for me.

 

Andy

C&C 40

Peregrine

Andrew Burton

61 W Narragansett

Newport, RI 

USA02840

 

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

+401 965-5260


On Jun 15, 2015, at 13:20, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List  
wrote:

Jim,  I do have a cover at my emergency tiller stock, but it doesn't keep the 
water out. I have not experienced the squeak at the stock so can't offer advice 
there. Is it possible to use something a bit heavier than McLube, but lighter 
than standard grease. Triflow or similar?

 

Kevin 

30-2 Osprey

 

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 3:21 PM Jim Reinardy via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hello All,

 

I have a persistent squeak when I turn the wheel on my 30-2.  I have traced it 
to the emergency tiller bracket in the back of the cockpit.I can spray 
McLube in there and it will go away for a short time, but always comes back, 
especially after a rain.   Was there originally a cover on the bracket, BTW?

 

I don’t see a grease fitting like the lower part of the shaft has, or another 
way to get a better lubricant in there.  

 

Anyone had this issue before?  I am reluctant to remove the bracket for fear of 
causing larger issues with the steering system, so reassurance there would also 
be helpful.

 

Thanks,

 

Jim Reinardy

C&C 30-2 “Firewater”

Milwaukee, WI 

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Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ Repower -- Ugh

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Ed,

You may want to talk to these guys, they have have taken over the repair 
business from Mack Boring who is the largest yanmar in the east. These guys are 
in new jersey near long beach so you could drive the block down to speed repair.

 

Richard – east coast boat transmission – 732-991-0694

 

George

C&C 40

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 3:42 PM
To: C&C List
Cc: Edd Schillay
Subject: Stus-List C&C 37+ Repower -- Ugh

 

Listers,

 

The yard is pulling out the Enterprise’s engine tomorrow. They can’t get it to 
turn more than 3/4 of the way and they think it’s a bent rod or something. 

 

So, as far as I can see, the options are:

 

1. They ship this engine to a place that can fix/rebuild. I know this is the 
lowest-priced option, but also am aware that there’s a possibility it can’t be 
fixed or rebuilt. So, in essence, I’m gambling with all that time and labor.

2. Obtain a remanufactured Universal M-35 or a similar engine from Westerbeke 
and get that put in — anyone have any clue as to those costs?

3. Obtain a Beta-30 from Beta Marine for $11,000 including shipping and put 
that in. The Beta guy (who has been enormously helpful) says it should be a 
perfect match (same mounts, same power, lighter engine)

 

Anyone have any advice, experience or comments with any of these options. If it 
were you, what would you do? 

 

Wanted to get this email out before I threw up. 

 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log  

 









   

 






 

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Re: Stus-List solar vent wiggles, doesn't rotate

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I put one in my head this spring and it was perfect, just the correct depth to 
come to the inside ceiling on my 40

George

C&C40

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 4:56 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jerome Tauber
Subject: Re: Stus-List solar vent wiggles, doesn't rotate

 

Has anyone installed a Nicro solar vent through the cabin roof over the head?  
Is the cabin roof cored?  About how thick?  I have an 1986 27-V.   Jerry. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 14, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
wrote:

I assume you took off the solar cell? That's how I access the motor and 
battery...




Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

 

On 14 July 2015 at 11:46, Harry Hallgring via CnC-List  
wrote:

I JUST bought a new Marinco 4" day/night solar vent and it doesn't work??  I 
took it apart and found the motor and battery completely sealed...unable to 
service, troubleshoot, etc. Hope the retailer makes it easy to swap:)

Harry

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 14, 2015, at 14:19, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hi Nate, 

Sounds to me like one of the commutators in the motor is no longer getting 
current and that creates a dead spot.  I.E your motor is toast. 

You can try connecting a good AA battery directly to the motor if you want to 
test and know for  sure

Here's a good replacement if you or one of your friends is handy with a 
soldering iron:   
 
http://store.sundancesolar.com/motor-for-solar-projects-1-5v-to-12v-dc/

You also need to shim it some for a perfect fit.  I found out about it on one 
of the cruisers forums, the guy reported excellent results.  It's a lot cheaper 
than a new vent.  I just received mine along with a special Eneloop battery I 
found on Amazon.  I'll report back when I install. 


-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA



From: Nate Flesness via CnC-List 
Date: 2015-07-14  02:15  (GMT+01:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Nate Flesness 
Subject: Stus-List solar vent wiggles, doesn't rotate

My Nicro 4" solar vent, maybe 4 years old, would not run this season.
I replaced the NI-MH C cell, left it switched off for a couple days to
charge in the sun, and turned it on - it wiggles back and forth a little,
but doesn't rotate - same as the with the old battery.

Ideas? solutions?

Thanks

Nate

"Sarah Jean"
1980 30-1
Lake St. Croix
Hudson W
Regards



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Re: Stus-List Wet / Dry Vac recommendations?

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Go to Home depot, they have a homer that fits on the top of a standard plastic 
bucket (you just but the power head part) 

, cheap, moderately powerful, use any bucket you normally have on the boat, 
good size - fits lots of places

 

George

C&C 40

 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:14 PM
To: C&C List
Subject: Stus-List Wet / Dry Vac recommendations?

 

Looking for recommendations for  a wet / dry vac for boat and some home. 110v 
is fine, but prefer something other than the huge ~16 gallon versions. 
Suggestions and links are welcome. Of course…price/value is a consideration.

 

Thanks!

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Re: Stus-List bird spikes

[George Cone via CnC-List]

You might want to try bird-x out of Chicago, they have a nylon version

George 
C& C- 40

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John
Pennie via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 10:56 AM
To: Joe Della Barba; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List bird spikes

Joe:

Where are you located?  They're everywhere here in Long Island

John


On Nov 29, 2014, at 7:52 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
 wrote:

> 
> Does anyone know a good place to buy bird spikes for the top of the 
> spreaders?  I saw someone putting them up and it looked like they had 
> that 3M super industrial tape on them.
> 
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina
> 35 MK I
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Re: Stus-List ; Oil and Water Temp gauge sending units;

[George Cone via CnC-List]

The measurements you are giving for the sender are SAE- not metric, you will
have to setup and converter anyway

George

C & C 40

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard
N. Bush via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 4:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List ; Oil and Water Temp gauge sending units;

 

I am in need of the lists' collective institutional knowledge; I bought two
teleflex gauges; one for oil pressure, and the other Water temp; I need to
order the sending units;
I have a 1985 Yanmar 3HMF (1985 C&C 37); the engine has never had these
gauges; I called the tech dept for teleflex; they gave me a Sierra Part
number for the oil gauge sender; (18-5899), but 
 for the water temp gauge they tell me I need to know the thread size for
the engine to know which sending unit to purchase; there are four different
units; (18-5896; TS-1/4-18; TS 3/8-18; TS 1/2-18)
I am not a mechanic and have no idea how to find this information; I do have
all of the Yanmar service manuals and parts manuals; is this information in
the manuals or how can I find this out? Many thanks  

 

Richard

1985 C&C 37 CB; 

Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Off C&C, but boating related question

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I agree, the learning curve on auto cad type products is painful sometimes,
I use a product - Turbo-Cad that is normally priced around $40- $80,
depending on sales, it will do most anything, and save in most any format.

 

The thought to use a student is quite good, 

 

George Cone

C&C 40

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Coleman via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 11:09 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Off C&C, but boating related question

 

I use Autocad lite, which works well and  USED to be pretty cheap, but not
anymore.

There are iterations of this for tablet, but they say you can only edit, not
completely draw, so, not sure how that would work. Maybe edit an existing
drawing to your specs.

There is also Google SketchUp, free, after they probe you for every bit of
info about your life.  This  could very well do what he needs to do.

In the end, the easiest thing may be to go to a local college or community
college and get one of the students to tackle it, they already have the
software and some know-how.

Call Westlawn.edu

 

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Nylander via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 10:12 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Off C&C, but boating related question

 

Those of you who are computer literate: this is kind of a boat question - a
member in our museum's model boat club is interested in getting an easy to
use 2D drafting program. He is leading the task to design and prepare a kit
to build a model of one of our oyster 'buy' boats which used to be prevalent
on the Chesapeake. We have the real boat (65' long) at the museum, and he
has taken measurements, but wants to have a professional set of plans for
the prospective model builders.

 

Any one have any ideas?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Gary Nylander

St. Michaels Maryland

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Re: Stus-List A VERY tough decision

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I purchased a C & C 40 that had spent 7 years on the dry. This was 4 years ago. 
Surprisingly few item were bad, and in fact I still use 2 of the batteries and 
they seem to be quite good—who knows? Yes I drained the fuel out and replaced, 
but everything works.   I am on Lake Champlain, 2 hours from my house. Yes the 
maintenance is a challenge and not everything gets done but I have had very 
little trouble . Lake Champlain or Lake George aren’t that far from central NY. 
And the sail from the bay up the coast and Hudson would be memorable. 

 

Thanks,

George Cone

C&C 40

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:16 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List A VERY tough decision

 

The fact that has been on the hard so long is a negative. Dead batteries bad 
fuel etc. 

 

If you need to maximize your tax deduction try the Baltimore sailing center or 
Sea Scouts. 

 

Joel 

On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Neal,

Joe’s idea of bringing the boat closer to you isn’t a terrible idea.  If you 
could transport the boat closer to home, it could remain on the hard until you 
got the projects sorted out and then, moving forward, find a location, perhaps 
in the Finger Lakes or Southern Adirondacks that would allow more frequent use 
of the boat.  My sister and her family sail on Great Sacandaga Reservoir in NY 
out of the Mayfield YC where membership and slip rentals are quite reasonable, 
plus the lake is over 25 miles long.  There are a number of sailboats in the 
30-35’ range that sail in the area and most folks that keep their boats in 
slips are basically using the boat as a summer lake home.  I’m not sure what 
your launching parameters would be (travel lift, hydraulic trailer, etc.) but 
there must be options for you somewhere in the middle part of the state.

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 Landfall 35

Padanaram, MA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:20 AM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 ' 
 >
Cc: Della Barba, Joe  >
Subject: Re: Stus-List A VERY tough decision

 

I am not sure how being on the Shore changes the value of the boat one way or 
the other.

I feel your pain – I tried keeping my boat on a mooring for free about 45 
minutes from my house and the ability to keep up with boat chores declined a 
lot so I moved back the $$$ slip 10 minutes away.

Is there any place local to you the boat could be? 

Joe

Coquina

Btw – the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum is a worthy place to donate a boat.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 
Cc: Neil Andersen
Subject: Stus-List A VERY tough decision

 

Fellow list mates,

 

I am facing a VERY tough decision.  I live 7-8 hours away from my boat (it is 
in the Chesapeake and I am in central NY state).  That is a long story in 
itself, but irrelevant.

 

My boat (1982 C&C 32) has just had it rigging serviced or replaced as needed 
due to a yard incident and I have new floorboards that need their finishing 
(underside) completed, etc. etc.  The boat means a lot to me and the family, 
but from what I hear, it is showing the fact it is neglected as we are not able 
to get down to the boat to keep her up.  The boat hasn’t been in the water 
since 2009.

 

I don’t want to, but am looking to part with the boat unless I can come up with 
another reasonable solution.  I don’t want to part with her unless it can go to 
a good home and/or donate it to a good cause.  I have been told that she is 
worth less than $10,000 USD based on the Eastern shore of MD.

 

Thoughts or interest? (Stu, I’ll donate part of the proceeds of the sale to the 
list if it sells through here)

Neil 

Neil Andersen 

315-707-7905 (home)

  
neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com

+++

The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the 
realist adjusts the sails.

 



-- 
Joel 
301 541 8551

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Re: Stus-List Looking for used RF Headsail of 34

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I have an old #2 that was cut to work as a roller furling genny on your boat – 
C&C 40, it is in fair – to good shape, you probably have it at no cost to get 
you through this year and maybe more. It is for my 40.

Thanks,
George Cone


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Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 6:39 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: SEAN CONNER 
Subject: Stus-List Looking for used RF Headsail of 34


Had a beautiful day sailing off the coast of NH the other day in 15kts, but 
unfortunately we blew out our aging genoa.   Wondering if any 34 owners have a 
good-very good Roller Furling genoa that you might be looking to sell.   I'm 
looking for something between 130-155%.   I'm willing to pay up to $750 and 
have a couple of spinnakers (.6 and .75) that I might be willing to trade.  
Thanks for the consideration.

Sean Conner

C&C 34 #134, LADYHAWKE
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3GMD replacement on C&C 34

[George Cone via CnC-List]

What is the cost if I can ask for just the motor
Thanks
George cone
 c&c 40
Unsinkable 2


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 Original message 
From: Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
Date: 9/17/17 11:55 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: C&CList 
Cc: Jack Fitzgerald 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3GMD replacement on C&C 34

Same here, just bought the new Yanmar 3YM30AE for our 39TM to replace 30+ year 
old 3GM30F hopefull to begin installation early next week. Our mechanic 
indicates that this engine will be basically a plug and play. This is have to 
see.

If the new engine is a trouble free as the old one I will be a happy camper.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY - US12788\
C&C 39TM
Savannah, GA USA


On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Andy,

What sort of fuel consumption change, if any, did you experience with the 
3YM30AE installation?

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit

On Sep 17, 2017, at 2:31 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Just went from 3HM30 to a nice new 3YM30AE. It is an incredible difference; 
quieter, smoother, smaller, and same economy for a little more speed. They had 
to cut down the engine beds an inch or so, but otherwise is a huge difference. 
I did most of the work getting the old engine out and helped with the 
installation of the new one. Still had to pay the mechanic for 23 hours labor 
to do the technical and electric stuff.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

On Sep 16, 2017, at 23:14, DON JONSSON via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hi

It seems I have a leaking head gasket on my Yanmar engine.  It is an old engine 
but only has 2,000 hours on it.  I'm going to get some quotes on fixing it but 
I'm sure it won't be cheap and not sure it won't be a waste on an old engine.

The boat is leaking a fair bit of oil which ends up in the bilge.  The best 
guess when tracing the source is the gasket.  Of course the leak is from an 
area that is very difficult to get a good look at.  The boat has also suddenly 
taken to starting very poorly.  Anyway those are the symptoms.

Has any one replaced a similar engine?  What with and how did it go?  Any 
things to watch out for?

Thanks
Don
Victoria, BC
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Re: Stus-List Prop pitch

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I do have a spare 2 blade fixed that was on my C&C 40 that you can try, I 
suspect it will be a lot closer than what you are using now, and I am in the 
Shelburne shipyard to get it, my shaft is 1 1/8” the replacement prop is   16 x 
11, my 3 hm27 will rev to 3000.

George



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 2:51 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe ; Daniel Sheer 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Prop pitch

Goes to Amazon UK??

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Sheer 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 2:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Daniel Sheer mailto:dansh...@yahoo.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Prop pitch

Try this spreadsheet.

http://www.surfbaud.co.uk/wave/

Dan Sheer
Pegathy - LF 38
Rock Creek off the Patapsco


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Re: Stus-List Old style ass NC is a luminum frame portlight gasket

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Try uploading r video vfg
The link
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From: CnC-List  on behalf of Dennis C. via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 7:33:13 AM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Old style aluminum frame portlight gasket

Awesome.  Exactly what the list needed.

Having a double groove on the outside facing side worked then?  I assume the 
second groove went under the frame and was not visible?

Dennis C.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 6:00 AM, David Paine via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi  Denis,

I went to a window building place and went through their samples of spline and 
found one that fit perfectly.  I then went to Amazon and ordered the shortest 
roll I could get (100 ft).   Here is what I bought:  
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G0Y5EA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 .

David (C&C 33-1)

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Dennis

In 2003 I bought the gasket from South Shore Marine.  Actually I even bought 
new (sitting for 30 years) 35 inch aluminum frames as well.  At the time 
someone told me I could have tried an RV supplier for the spline.  That was for 
a Niagara 26 BTW

Mike

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Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 12:20 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Stus-List Old style aluminum frame portlight gasket

Almost time to replace the lenses in Touche's old style aluminum frame 
portlights.  The "D" shape EDPM inner seal is easy to find at big box stores.

However, I can only find the gray outer gasket at Holland Marine for $5/foot.  
Gaskets for newer hatches at hatchmasters.com (Select 
Plastics site) are in the same price range.  Internet search reveals some that 
are close but not exact.

I can reuse the old gasket and have some old gasket if need be.  However, I'd 
like to find another source for the gasket at a reasonable price.

Some on the list claim it's a readily available storm door or window gasket or 
such.   I've taken a sample of the gasket to several glass shops and door 
repair places in my area with no luck at all.

Can anybody find a manufacturer, supplier or part number for the exact 
replacement gasket?  Has anybody found a similar gasket that worked?  If so, 
what is part number?  There's a lot of us that would like that information.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Pelican hook

[George Cone via CnC-List]

The company that hS them is out of Hartford, i have it in my file from last 
year, when mine fell of, home tomorrow
81 c & c 40
George



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 Original message 
From: David Morrison via CnC-List 
Date: 8/13/18 2:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David Morrison 
Subject: Stus-List Pelican hook

I have a 1980 C&C 40 - somehow the pelican hook worked it's way off the 
lifeline gate.  I need to replace.  Went to local West Marine and the one hook 
that have does not match my threading.  Does anyone happen to know the thread 
spec for the hook?  I see Defender does offer a few options.

--Dave

Terrapin Flyer
New Haven


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Re: Stus-List Pelican hook

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Here's the name and address for your parts

Hayn Enterprises, LLC
51 Inwood Road
Rocky Hill, CT 06067 USA
Telephone
800.346.4296
860.257.0680
Fax

George Cone
81 c & c 40

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of George Cone via 
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 3:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: George Cone 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Pelican hook

The company that hS them is out of Hartford, i have it in my file from last 
year, when mine fell of, home tomorrow
81 c & c 40
George



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 Original message 
From: David Morrison via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 8/13/18 2:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: David Morrison mailto:d...@dwmorrison.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Pelican hook

I have a 1980 C&C 40 - somehow the pelican hook worked it's way off the 
lifeline gate.  I need to replace.  Went to local West Marine and the one hook 
that have does not match my threading.  Does anyone happen to know the thread 
spec for the hook?  I see Defender does offer a few options.

--Dave

Terrapin Flyer
New Haven


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Re: Stus-List C&c40 -2 std rig main sail

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I havee soft main, still fair, but good headsails if you need those from my 81 
40-2
George Cone



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From: PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List 
Date: 9/25/18 12:58 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: PETER OCAMPO 
Subject: Stus-List C&c40 -2 std rig main sail

Hello all

Before I put in an order for a new sail or look at the lofts for a used sail  
Wanted to see if anyone had a good used. Main sail they were willing to part 
with

currently I have a stained bed sheet that I rarely use but when I do  I have to 
admit it just doesn’t look good

1983 C&c 40 aft cabins std rig

Thanks

Peter Ocampo
Goonie island
Portland Maine

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Re: Stus-List C&c40 -2 std rig main sail

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I havee soft main, still fair, but good headsails if you need those from my 81 
40-2
George Cone



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From: PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List 
Date: 9/25/18 12:58 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: PETER OCAMPO 
Subject: Stus-List C&c40 -2 std rig main sail

Hello all

Before I put in an order for a new sail or look at the lofts for a used sail  
Wanted to see if anyone had a good used. Main sail they were willing to part 
with

currently I have a stained bed sheet that I rarely use but when I do  I have to 
admit it just doesn’t look good

1983 C&c 40 aft cabins std rig

Thanks

Peter Ocampo
Goonie island
Portland Maine

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Re: Stus-List Folding & Feathering Prop Recommendations

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I have a flex fold on my 40, they might have over propped me also . I can only 
go to 3000 rpm, but it is a two blade, no vibration. I'm  happy with it.

George cone
C & C 40

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From: CnC-List  on behalf of Bruce Whitmore via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:14:36 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Bruce Whitmore 
Subject: Stus-List Folding & Feathering Prop Recommendations

Hello all,

I know this has been discussed a lot on the board in the past, but given the 
recent discussions of over-propping on the part of flex-o-fold, I'd like to 
re-ask the question.  The reason is that a folding prop is definitely in my 
future, as we have a fixed 3 blade prop on the boat now.  We also sail in an 
area where crab pots are extremely common from October through April.  For that 
reason alone I am leaning toward a folding prop.  I also saw the rather well 
put together article in which a test of folding and feather props was performed 
- the one touted on flex-o-fold's website.

By the way, in exchanging emails with flex-o-fold, they are recommending a 3 
blade version, so if vibration is an issue with your two blade prop, that may 
not apply to me.

With all these considerations in mind, when it comes to a folding/feathering 
prop, what do you have, and why do you like it?

Looking forward to your insights,

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C37/40+
"Astralis"
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Re: Stus-List 2020 Rendezvous (s)

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Tell us when and where, we’ll buy the air tickets now!!
George Cone

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of detroito91 via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 5:05 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: detroito91 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 Rendezvous (s)

Great idea. Let's go there instead
Jim Schwartz



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 Original message 
From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 11/1/19 4:43 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 Rendezvous (s)

Hey Edd,

If you plan a winter Florida Renezvous, I might fly there to enjoy the nice 
warm weather and I bet other Northeast C&C'ers would too.

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute, 1989 C&C 34R Pasadena Md


On November 1, 2019 at 2:45 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

All,

It is true, I have relocated from the chilly Northeast to sunny Florida — and 
therefore will not be planning any further Northeast Rendezvouses.

Maybe 2020 needs a Southeast Rendezvous….. h…..

As for the northeast, I suppose David Risch could take up that mantle again, 
but be warned, he has a habit of not showing up.

In all seriousness though, even though I many be a thousand miles away, I’d be 
happy to assist any rendezvous planning. If there are decent hotels nearby, I 
may even fly to one or two.


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log












On Nov 1, 2019, at 1:20 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Dennis,

With Edd moving to Florida I'm unaware of anybody having organized the 2019 
N.E. Rendezvous and I have heard no mention of a 2020.  Had I heard of one, I 
would have certainly taken it into consideration when choosing a date.  That 
being said, I apologize to the appropriate party if the last weekend in 
September interferes with the NE Rendezvous.


All the best,

Josh Muckley
S /V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 12:09 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I like it.  Perhaps the Northeast Rendezvous could be the weekend before or 
after?  If so, the Admiral and I would be tempted to attend both with a week of 
land touring in between.

Baltimore is a good location.  The Admiral and I spent a couple nights at the 
Inner Harbor after last year's rendezvous.  Touring the old ships was pretty 
cool.

I just wish there were enough listers on the northern Gulf Coast for a 
rendezvous here.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 5:41 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I'm pretty sure that that is sufficient for a final established date and 
location.  I'm making the call.

THERE IT IS FOLKS!  THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE 2020 MID-ATLANTIC C&C 
RENDEZVOUS!  TO BE HELD ON THE LAST WEEKEND OF SEPTEMBER (25, 26, 27) IN 
BALTIMORE MARYLAND AT ANCHORAGE MARINA!


More to follow,

Josh Muckley


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Re: Stus-List D Sub Crimping...

[George Cone via CnC-List]

A DB-9 has 9 pins as a detail. They Come in a variety of pin styles – solder, 
crimp, etc. if you want a couple of the crimp style – no soldering, I can send 
some down.

Remember there is a male and female version, I can send a couple of each if you 
need

George Cone
1981 C&C 40
Killington, VT


From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of David Risch via 
CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 9:14 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David Risch 
Subject: Re: Stus-List D Sub Crimping...

Thanks Josh and all for the ideas.  It is 8 pins into an 7/8” wide connector 
purpose built for the scanner.  No room for solder, at least not my soldering 
skills.  To Andy’s point…maybe just suck it up.   Ugh.  Another single purpose 
tool.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf 
Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 8:55 AM
To: C&C List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Josh Muckley mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List D Sub Crimping...

You could use a terminal board style db-9 or db-25 connector.  I could probably 
provide a male and female 9 pin if you want.

https://www.amazon.com/Connector-D-sub-25-pin-Terminal-Breakout/dp/B073RG3GG6

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 08:35 David Risch via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
So I need to crimp “D Sub” connectors for the radar.  Don’t want to buy yet 
another specialized crimper.  I understand you can use a needle nose, a 
magnifying glass and have at it.  Any suggestions/experiences out there?

Thanks in advance.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Re: Stus-List C&C 35 Mark III

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I thought over the years the accepted recommendation was to put it into Reverse?

George Cone
1981 C&C 40

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35 Mark III

Most (as in "check your transmission manual") transmission manuals call for a 
neutral gear, when sailing. Iirc, Yanmar had a special bulletin where they said 
that if you don't sail in neutral, they would void your warranty (like this 
really matters for our boats).

Marek


 Original message 
From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 2020-06-17 13:05 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Coleman mailto:colt...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35 Mark III

I see.
I just mention it, because I think from past discussions there was mention that 
shafts spinning in neutral could damage the Transmissions.

Bill

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of schiller via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: schiller
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35 Mark III

Bill,

It is a two blade fixed prop.  It spins!

The singing is probably around 400 hz.  I might use my phone with the db app 
and find what actual frequency it is.  It is not a concerning sound, just 
wondered if we are unique.

I have thought about a geared feathering prop but the boat bucks always make me 
keep thinking.  Grace was never raced and has a fixed prop, no adjustable 
backstay adjuster and fixed babystay adjustment.  I can live with those though 
I have thought about prop and hydraulic backstay adjuster.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
On 6/17/2020 9:40 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote:
I don't think your shaft should be spinning.
Can't you put it in reverse to stop the shaft from spinning, then neutral? Or 
do you not have a folding prop -

Bill Coleman

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of schiller via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:38 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: schiller
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35 Mark III

Ron,

Yes.  We sail with the transmission in neutral and can tell that the shaft is 
spinning.  We noted it the day that we sailed here home almost three years ago. 
 We tried to locate the source when we first heard it but can't really locate 
the source.  She sings on both tacks.  It doesn't concern us that she does 
this.  Just curious if she is unique.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
On 6/17/2020 1:14 AM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:
Does it always happen at that speed; in other words, does a different alignment 
of the prop change anything?
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30-1
STL
On Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 08:11:05 PM CDT, Graham Collins via CnC-List 
 wrote:



Hi Neil

No singing on hull #11.  We originally had a 2 blade fixed prop, and now are 
running a Kiwi Prop.

Graham CollinsSecret PlansC&C 35-III #11
On 2020-06-16 7:22 p.m., schiller via CnC-List wrote:
OK Mark III owners, our C&C 35-3 "signs" with speeds between about 4.5 to 5 
knots.  It is a definite harmonic signing that I have never been able to 
isolate.  We have a 2 blade fixed prop and sail with the transmission in 
neutral.  I am not complaining, I love it when she goes into singing mode.  It 
goes away above 5 knots and there is no impediment to exceeding that speed.  My 
question is if "Grace" is unique or does anyone else show this phenomena?

BTW, we noted no singing when we hit 7.7 knots Sunday afternoon.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC



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Stus-List icebox drain

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I have an 1981 C & C 40. I have never been able to find the output of the drain 
line on the icebox. Where does it come out from the floorboards where I can 
find it- under the sink area? It seems to travel that way from the icebox? Is 
there any valve on it?

Thanks,

George Cone
Burlington, VT
!981 C&C 40
UNSINKABLE II
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Free 35'

[George Cone via CnC-List]

My son is interested and definitely capable, he sails our 40 fine, what are the 
details?  We can  get to marina there in Newark area. Easy enough, and then he 
would move it up to Boston where he lives.

Thanks,
George Cone

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 12:39 PM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Free 35'

Where is this exactly?

Joe

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert 
Gallagher via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 11:33 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Gallagher mailto:trys...@gmail.com>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Free 35'

CUT AND PASTE FROM 
SAILNET.COM
 forums

Hi all,

I have moved from Manhattan to California, so have decided to give away my 
beautiful 1973 C & C 35 to whomever wants her and will sail her. I can supply 
the most recent survey. Whomever wants her would need to sail her out of 
Liberty Landing Marina by May 10. She sails extremely well. Please let me know 
if seriously interested. To be clear, this is free but you do need be able to 
sail.

Cheers,
Peter
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Re: Stus-List Free 35'

[George Cone via CnC-List]

He never responded, i assume fraud

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From: CnC-List  on behalf of Joe Della Barba via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 3:36:19 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joe Della Barba
Subject: Re: Stus-List Free 35'


Did anyone ever get in touch with this guy?

On 5/1/2019 9:12 PM, jim aridas via CnC-List wrote:
If you need a overnight dockage at manasquan inlet. Let me know, I'm the 
Commodore at Manasquan River Yacht Club.

Sent from my Verizon Smartphone
On May 1, 2019 8:51 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Really, an '82 34' for $6K? Where? Too late, as I just bought the '74 35'... :)

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 4:28 PM jim aridas via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I think this highlights just how soft the auxiliary sail market is. case and 
point.
Still have not found someone to sail/motor away my 1982 34' for 6k
Sad


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Re: Stus-List Anyone have a prop?

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I have a fixed 16 x 9 two blade that came off my 81 – 40, it does have a 1 
1/8th taper I believe,

Will that help?
Thanks,
George
1981 C&C 40
Burlington, VT

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of schiller via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 7:46 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: schiller 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anyone have a prop?

Chuck,

I see from you area codes that you are here in Michigan.  Give Torresen Marine 
a call to see if they might have a used Campbell Sailor or Michigan Wheel prop 
laying around.  We used them to repower our Redwing 35 way back when.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
On 5/27/2019 9:32 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List wrote:
Hello listers...anyone have a fixed three blade propeller,  16x9 RH for a 1 1/8 
shaft?
It's for my 37+ who has a problem with the Max Prop that is currently 
installed.  I want to get a quick solution, and use the fixed blade for this 
year, while I send the MaxProp for reconditioning.
Just hoping someone has a fixed prop languishing in their garage and would 
either sell or loan for a year!!!  Anyone help?  Boat is out of commission 
until I secure a solution!  Thanks!


Chuck Saur
Board Chair

Olivia's Gift
517 490-5926 Cell
616 977-5766 Fax
www.oliviasgift.org

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Re: Stus-List Sailboat surveyor in Salem MA area

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I can highly recommend Tom Ferguson, I don't know where he is now but here is 
his old address and email

Thomas J. Ferguson
677 Lake Avenue
Manchester, NH 03103

Try - 603-669-0734


TOM FERGUSON t...@prodigy.net

George Cone

C&C 40
Killington VT



From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Blair Clark via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 8:06 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Blair Clark 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailboat surveyor in Salem MA area

Sorry for any inconvenience Salem MA

From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf 
of ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: July 15, 2019 10:40:46 PM
To: C&C
Cc: ALAN BERGEN
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailboat surveyor in Salem area

Are you referring to Salem, OR, or Salem, MA? If Salem, OR. I can recommend 
Alison Mazon (503) 358-6983 or Joe Derie (503) 953-4008. I've used both of 
them, and they are excellent, reliable surveyors. They're both in Portland, but 
that's only about thirty-five miles from Salem.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 5:37 PM Blair Clark via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello,

Does anyone feel confident to recommend a yacht surveyor in the Salem area? If 
so who?

Hull, electrical engine.

Thank you,

Blair

From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf 
of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: July 15, 2019 11:00:25 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike
Subject: Stus-List Bulkhead replacement project 


No not on Persistence but on a couple of J22s.  I decided to document the 
replacement of the bulkhead on this latest J22 and post the progress on the 
web.  If anyone is interested it can be viewed at 
http://www.hoytsailing.com/J22Project/J22No6.htm



Mike Hoyt

Persistence

Frers 33 #16

www.hoytsailing.com


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Stus-List Re: Boric Acid Powder

[George Cone via CnC-List]

To update you on the dryer sheets, around here people use them to stop mice 
moving in to their boats and all, well I was just in working on a snowmobile 
groomer and it was full of dryer sheets, and as I lifted the console to check 
on some wiring there was a family of 6 mice nestled in the dryer sheets! So 
better find something else to use.
George Cone
Killington, vermont

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 4:12 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Boric Acid Powder

Thank you, I will also try the peppermint oil.
Practical Sailor also suggested Rosemary oil, mixed with vinegar, and squirt it 
on the dock lines, They said it won’t kill the spiders, but they don’t like it 
and won’t walk over it.  But I couldn’t find any at Walmart.

And yes, spiders kill bugs, and so do Purple Martins, and I am happy to have 
them both around doing what they do. Just so long as they don’t live and shit 
on my boat. Like bats, they do their job, then go back to their caves and 
Belfries.

I forgot about dryer sheets, I used to use those below, now I can’t remember if 
it was for the smell or spiders . . .

And Joe, nothing brings me more joy than throwing a spider in the water, and 
watching a deserving fish gobble him up!


Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie, PA



From: David Swensen [mailto:ka123dswense...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 12:20 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boric Acid Powder

I do not know about using Boric Acid with spiders, but I know my brother is in 
Dunkirk, NY and they have mucho spiders there. He uses peppermint oil, and it 
seems to work pretty well. He dabs soaked cotton balls around the compalionway, 
hatches, and portholes, and I believe docklines.

David Swensen
Freya
35 MKIII
Beverly, MA

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:48 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Has anyone ever tried Boric Acid for spiders?
We have gobs of them here on the lakes.

Practical Sailor just had some discussion on using this for Cockroaches, and I 
see now, silverfish and water bugs – but I see no mention of spiders.
I am trying to get away from spider spray, for obvious reasons, and this looks 
like a much more friendly alternative, but if it won’t work, well then . . . I 
guess back to the drawing board.

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie, PA


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Stus-List Re: Eva faux decking

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I put some very inexpensive eva on my cockpit for a test, planning to replace 
it with expensive material if it worked. I had two goals, one the admiral 
wanted something softer to sit on, and two my lab was always sliding around and 
uncomfortable when to boatwould lean. I was concerned the dog would tear up the 
foam with his claws, and also the material would stain and look dirty.  This 
cheap material passed all tests with flying colors. I can only imagine how the 
expensive stuff performs.

Highly recommend the use of it.

Thanks
George
C&C40
Burlington, VT

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From: Rod Stright via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 7:55:15 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Rod Stright 
Subject: Stus-List Eva faux decking


Has anyone use the EVA teak marine decking?  If so do you recommend it and are 
you aware of a supplier here in Canada and/or Nova Scotia?



Rod

Halifax
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Stus-List Re: Eva faux decking

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Yes, take some photos this weekend.  I used 2 packages of the material  from 
amazon  at $68 each to do the entire cockpit floors, seats, captains perch. I 
was really amazed how well it held up.

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From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:18:36 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: strig...@eastlink.ca ; CHARLES SCHEAFFER 

Subject: Stus-List Re: Eva faux decking

I plan to use EVA foam on my cockpit floor.  I bought two rolls of EVA that 
look like teak for $73/roll.  I probably could get away with a single roll, but 
wanted extra material in case.  I have no idea how well it will hold up.

https://www.amazon.com/CHURERSHINING-Decking-Marine-Flooring-Adhesive/dp/B07P6ZMW3G/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=boat%2Bdeck%2Bcovering&qid=1611610224&sr=8-2&th=1

Chuck S
On 09/20/2021 9:53 AM Richard Bush via CnC-List  wrote:



George, can you define what is considered "inexpensive"? Also, any photos? 
Thanks!

Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 584;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


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From: George Cone via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Rod Stright ; George Cone 
Sent: Mon, Sep 20, 2021 9:10 am
Subject: Stus-List Re: Eva faux decking

I put some very inexpensive eva on my cockpit for a test, planning to replace 
it with expensive material if it worked. I had two goals, one the admiral 
wanted something softer to sit on, and two my lab was always sliding around and 
uncomfortable when to boatwould lean. I was concerned the dog would tear up the 
foam with his claws, and also the material would stain and look dirty.  This 
cheap material passed all tests with flying colors. I can only imagine how the 
expensive stuff performs.

Highly recommend the use of it.

Thanks
George
C&C40
Burlington, VT

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From: Rod Stright via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 7:55:15 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Rod Stright 
Subject: Stus-List Eva faux decking

Has anyone use the EVA teak marine decking?  If so do you recommend it and are 
you aware of a supplier here in Canada and/or Nova Scotia?

Rod
Halifax
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Stus-List Re: Eva faux decking

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I think that is the same product I used, I choose the gray color, the only 
caution I can provide, is use a very sharp knife and it will come out great. 
the is does seem to wear well.

george cone
C&C 40

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:19 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: strig...@eastlink.ca; CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Eva faux decking

I plan to use EVA foam on my cockpit floor.  I bought two rolls of EVA that 
look like teak for $73/roll.  I probably could get away with a single roll, but 
wanted extra material in case.  I have no idea how well it will hold up.

https://www.amazon.com/CHURERSHINING-Decking-Marine-Flooring-Adhesive/dp/B07P6ZMW3G/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=boat%2Bdeck%2Bcovering&qid=1611610224&sr=8-2&th=1

Chuck S
On 09/20/2021 9:53 AM Richard Bush via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:



George, can you define what is considered "inexpensive"? Also, any photos? 
Thanks!

Richard
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Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462

502-584-7255


-Original Message-
From: George Cone via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Rod Stright mailto:strig...@eastlink.ca>>; George 
Cone mailto:gc...@alpinesy.com>>
Sent: Mon, Sep 20, 2021 9:10 am
Subject: Stus-List Re: Eva faux decking
I put some very inexpensive eva on my cockpit for a test, planning to replace 
it with expensive material if it worked. I had two goals, one the admiral 
wanted something softer to sit on, and two my lab was always sliding around and 
uncomfortable when to boatwould lean. I was concerned the dog would tear up the 
foam with his claws, and also the material would stain and look dirty.  This 
cheap material passed all tests with flying colors. I can only imagine how the 
expensive stuff performs.
Highly recommend the use of it.
Thanks
George
C&C40
Burlington, VT

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From: Rod Stright via CnC-List 
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Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 7:55:15 AM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Rod Stright mailto:strig...@eastlink.ca>>
Subject: Stus-List Eva faux decking

Has anyone use the EVA teak marine decking?  If so do you recommend it and are 
you aware of a supplier here in Canada and/or Nova Scotia?

Rod
Halifax
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Stus-List cnc list

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Stu, sorry to heap more on your desk, but I am not sure what is happening but I 
have been receiving the email list for 5 or 6 years, it is tremendous, all of a 
sudden it has not been coming in, since Christmas or before, what can I do to 
get  re - linked up with it. I use Microsoft office 365 if that helps

Thanks,

George Cone
C & C 40

gc...@alpinesy.com
Custom laser engraved cutting boards are available at the C&C Photo Album site.

Stus-List Re: Cutting board orders

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Yes, I ordered one on Monday, 4/18, if you need the order resent, just ask, 
paypal payment was completed

Thanks,

George Cone 

-Original Message-
From: Stu via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 9:05 AM
To: C&C Email List 
Cc: Stu 
Subject: Stus-List Cutting board orders

If you ordered a cutting board over the weekend, please check your email 
folders.  A program error prevented some information being processed.  I sent 
emails out to the purchasers but have not received replies back.

It is not serious but it will delay your order until I hear from you.

Sorry -- just another cyberspace glitch.

Stu

Stus-List Re: Marina/boatyard fires

[George Cone via CnC-List]

As an amateur electrician (boy, that should scare you), I don't understand why 
the failure of the neutral will cause a fire? Yes all 110 taps will be dead- 
correct?, and it is possible the 220 feeds will vary in voltage, but why a fire 
opportunity?

George Cone
C&C 40
Burlington, VT

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 7:52 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: Marina/boatyard fires

FYI:
With the neutral feed disconnected, unless by random chance the loads on the 
two legs of the dock are equal, some boats will get a lot less than 120 volts 
and some a lot more.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA


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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Marina/boatyard fires

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I guess I'll go back to being an amateur  electrician!

George Cone
C&C40
BTV, VT

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 9:29 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Marina/boatyard fires

The missing neutral back on shore causes all the boats on 1 leg to be in series 
with all the boats on the other leg.
If there are only two boats and each has a 1200 watt heater on, they will be 
fine. If one boat has a 1200 watt heater and one boat has a 120 watt lightbulb, 
the boat with the lightbulb will get most of the voltage.
My calculations for that show the 120 volt lightbulb getting 218 volts.


Joe Della Barba

Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 8:55 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: George Cone mailto:gc...@alpinesy.com>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Marina/boatyard fires

As an amateur electrician (boy, that should scare you), I don't understand why 
the failure of the neutral will cause a fire? Yes all 110 taps will be dead- 
correct?, and it is possible the 220 feeds will vary in voltage, but why a fire 
opportunity?

George Cone
C&C 40
Burlington, VT

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 7:52 AM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: Marina/boatyard fires

FYI:
With the neutral feed disconnected, unless by random chance the loads on the 
two legs of the dock are equal, some boats will get a lot less than 120 volts 
and some a lot more.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA


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Stus-List Re: Hull painting

[George Cone via CnC-List]

One detail, I have / had a 1981 c &c 40 white, I had a quart of special paint 
made to do some patching. Unfortunately the boat was hit by lightning before 
the 4th of July so I have no further need for the paint, $20.00 and it is yours!

The boat was totaled due to hull penetrations

Thanks,

George Cone

From: Richard Bush via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 12:31 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Richard Bush 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Hull painting

JK; that is cool! I didn't know it was available: is this something I can 
purchase? I'll take two! let me know!

Richard
Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220
(502) 584-7255


On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 06:27:20 AM EDT, Motion Designs Limited via 
CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


This will give a reference for original C&C colours

C&C Colour Chart
motiondesignslimited.com
[cid:image001.png@01D9D4FC.DB6337A0]

www.candcyachts.com
Motion Designs Limited
647 990 7752

One last point, is, color; our hull is the C&C factory white, don;t know the 
name, but its an off-white almost cream color; we are thinking of going back 
with flag blue or navy blue; any thoughts here are welcome as well.

As always, thank you and let me know if you have any questions!

Richard
1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584;
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Stus-List Re: Hull painting

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I’m wrong again, it is custom gelcoat, made by Fibre Glast Developments Corp – 
we used their color chart to get the color

I’ll forward a photo of the can later.

I have all sorts of sheet, spinnaker sheets , sails spinnakers available also.

Thanks,
George



From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 2:09 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Hull painting

What kind of paint?

Bill Coleman
Erie PA

On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 1:34 PM George Cone via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
One detail, I have / had a 1981 c &c 40 white, I had a quart of special paint 
made to do some patching. Unfortunately the boat was hit by lightning before 
the 4th of July so I have no further need for the paint, $20.00 and it is yours!

The boat was totaled due to hull penetrations

Thanks,

George Cone


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Stus-List Re: Hull painting

[George Cone via CnC-List]

This boat did the Bermuda so I think the previous owner bought 2 of everything.

From: rjcasciato--- via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 4:20 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: rjcasci...@comcast.net
Subject: Stus-List Re: Hull painting

That stuff won't fit on the new boat??

On Aug 22, 2023 3:04 PM, George Cone via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I’m wrong again, it is custom gelcoat, made by Fibre Glast Developments Corp – 
we used their color chart to get the color



I’ll forward a photo of the can later.



I have all sorts of sheet, spinnaker sheets , sails spinnakers available also.



Thanks,

George







From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 2:09 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Bill Coleman mailto:colt...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: Hull painting



What kind of paint?



Bill Coleman

Erie PA



On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 1:34 PM George Cone via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

One detail, I have / had a 1981 c &c 40 white, I had a quart of special paint 
made to do some patching. Unfortunately the boat was hit by lightning before 
the 4th of July so I have no further need for the paint, $20.00 and it is yours!



The boat was totaled due to hull penetrations



Thanks,



George Cone





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Re: Stus-List New-guy C&C 40 Shopping questions

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Jeff,
I have one of the deep keel 40s and keep in mind it needs 8.40 feet of water 
not 7.

Also. Don't minimize the wet decks. That can add up quick.

As for sailing the 40 is fine but it really is a one cabin boat unless you know 
the others very well.

I sail it up in lake champlain where the water is deep so it's great

George Cone
1981 40

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From: CnC-List  on behalf of Nate Flesness via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:00:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Nate Flesness 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New-guy C&C 40 Shopping questions

I own a 30-1, but have chartered a tall rig 40, with the deep keel.
Sailing it was like a freight train... the most amazing speed and 
ground-covering ability I have ever dealt with.
Still brings a smile thinking about it.
That said, I thought the interior was set up for a racing crew more than 
cruisers, but thats just a personal preference.

Good luck

Nate




On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 4:38 PM Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Allow me to first apologize for any ignorance we may suffer before I introduce 
our situation. I've been sailing all sorts of small craft for 35+ years but 
this will be our first adventure in something no-longer trailerable.  I and my 
wife are shopping for an upgrade in size from our O'Day 23-2 and are attracted 
to the C&C line of boats given our budget, the perceived quality, 
performance/comfort reputation, and availability in the local market. We 
started eyeing a 35-3 in VT (and may still consider it) but after looking at a 
few 35' boats locally we are realizing they may still be a bit small for our 
rapidly growing family of four (and trucking and bottom painting a boat from VT 
to NH/ME seacoast adds a lot of costs), we have started looking at some C&C 40 
boats in MA/RI  area. I'm not afraid of some small projects that can be carried 
out while we use it or in the offseason but not interested in a "project boat"  
that would need work to be safe before use.

https://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=3558367&checked_boats=3558367&hosturl=MattapoisettYachtSales&&ybw=&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=81236&url=
https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1981-c-c-tall-rig-7442829/

Now for the questions:

We have scheduled the two 40's above for a visit next weekend, one we saw in 
the boatyard without invitation this weekend. They are both on the hard, and 
the one we briefly visited is a centerboard version. The other is a 
tall-rig/deep-keel.  See the photos linked.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7xUVbSnHMob2YmYP8

1. On this boat, what is the drain in the keel for? Is it a bilge drain or a 
centerboard trunk vent? There was something, perhaps a piece of wood, loose 
inside the drain that I could move with a finger.
2. On cabin top starboard, there appears to be a wire cable winch that I've not 
seen on other examples. Is this the centerboard pendant perhaps?
3. Is the weeping from the centerboard pivot access ports reasonable or 
expected. It may be lubricant as the broker suggests it was somewhat recently 
serviced.

Notes: The "smile" needs addressing but seems dry. Depth and knot log sensors 
have been painted over with antifoul despite being listed in the description as 
features. Gelcoat seems good for its age.

We are leaning towards the centerboard model as the Marina we are targeting in 
Portland, ME has limited areas of draft to accommodate a 7.5' keel at low tide. 
However, fewer moving parts is a huge advantage as is better sailing 
performance. But, we might be forced into a less desirable marina or have a low 
tide +/- 1hr time block for coming or going from the marina.

Last general question and ask for advice, what is the mast step situation on 
either of these boats and apart from waterlogged cores in the deck and hull, 
what are the critical points of interest to a new buyer that thinks he is 
somewhat savvy.

All polite thoughts welcomed.

Best regards,
Jeff
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Re: Stus-List New-guy C&C 40 Shopping questions

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Standard 40 is 7' 6" the DJ is 10" deeper

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From: CnC-List  on behalf of Jeffrey Brideau via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:35:18 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Jeffrey Brideau 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New-guy C&C 40 Shopping questions

Hi George,

Is it a misprint that the max draft is 7'6" ? The number your quoting sounds 
like the max draft for CB down on the CB model according the brochure.

I'm familiar with wet decks, our O'Day has plenty.

Thanks,
Jeff

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:43 PM George Cone via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Jeff,
I have one of the deep keel 40s and keep in mind it needs 8.40 feet of water 
not 7.

Also. Don't minimize the wet decks. That can add up quick.

As for sailing the 40 is fine but it really is a one cabin boat unless you know 
the others very well.

I sail it up in lake champlain where the water is deep so it's great

George Cone
1981 40

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From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf 
of Nate Flesness via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:00:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Nate Flesness mailto:nateflesn...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List New-guy C&C 40 Shopping questions

I own a 30-1, but have chartered a tall rig 40, with the deep keel.
Sailing it was like a freight train... the most amazing speed and 
ground-covering ability I have ever dealt with.
Still brings a smile thinking about it.
That said, I thought the interior was set up for a racing crew more than 
cruisers, but thats just a personal preference.

Good luck

Nate




On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 4:38 PM Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Allow me to first apologize for any ignorance we may suffer before I introduce 
our situation. I've been sailing all sorts of small craft for 35+ years but 
this will be our first adventure in something no-longer trailerable.  I and my 
wife are shopping for an upgrade in size from our O'Day 23-2 and are attracted 
to the C&C line of boats given our budget, the perceived quality, 
performance/comfort reputation, and availability in the local market. We 
started eyeing a 35-3 in VT (and may still consider it) but after looking at a 
few 35' boats locally we are realizing they may still be a bit small for our 
rapidly growing family of four (and trucking and bottom painting a boat from VT 
to NH/ME seacoast adds a lot of costs), we have started looking at some C&C 40 
boats in MA/RI  area. I'm not afraid of some small projects that can be carried 
out while we use it or in the offseason but not interested in a "project boat"  
that would need work to be safe before use.

https://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=3558367&checked_boats=3558367&hosturl=MattapoisettYachtSales&&ybw=&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=81236&url=
https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1981-c-c-tall-rig-7442829/

Now for the questions:

We have scheduled the two 40's above for a visit next weekend, one we saw in 
the boatyard without invitation this weekend. They are both on the hard, and 
the one we briefly visited is a centerboard version. The other is a 
tall-rig/deep-keel.  See the photos linked.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7xUVbSnHMob2YmYP8

1. On this boat, what is the drain in the keel for? Is it a bilge drain or a 
centerboard trunk vent? There was something, perhaps a piece of wood, loose 
inside the drain that I could move with a finger.
2. On cabin top starboard, there appears to be a wire cable winch that I've not 
seen on other examples. Is this the centerboard pendant perhaps?
3. Is the weeping from the centerboard pivot access ports reasonable or 
expected. It may be lubricant as the broker suggests it was somewhat recently 
serviced.

Notes: The "smile" needs addressing but seems dry. Depth and knot log sensors 
have been painted over with antifoul despite being listed in the description as 
features. Gelcoat seems good for its age.

We are leaning towards the centerboard model as the Marina we are targeting in 
Portland, ME has limited areas of draft to accommodate a 7.5' keel at low tide. 
However, fewer moving parts is a huge advantage as is better sailing 
performance. But, we might be forced into a less desirable marina or have a low 
tide +/- 1hr time block for coming or going from the marina.

Last general question and ask for advice, what is the mast step situation on 
either of these boats and apart from waterlogged cores in the deck and hull, 
what are the critical points of interest to a new buyer 

Stus-List Re: Winch bit

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I do have the bit that fits into my 28 volt Milwaukee. I have 2 batteries and 
it raises the main or large people up the mast with ease .  I get 4 or more 
raises out of a battery without recharges.

George Cone
C&C 40

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From: Jeff Nelson via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 7:31:39 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Jeff Nelson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch bit

I can't imagine a 12v cordless drill would have the torque.  I have 20v
dewalt cordless drill,
and even though it will drive a 6 inch hole through the side of my
house, I can't imagine ever
using for triming my headsail.  Milwaukee is industrial stuff, so you
pay for it.  I think the US
can get industrial Dewalt, but no one here carries that in Can that I
know of.

Cheers,
Jeff Nelson
Muir Caileag
C&C 30 549

On 2021-01-23 10:39 p.m., cenelson via CnC-List wrote:
> A rigger I know uses a cordless Milwaukee right angle drill to hoist
> his crew (or for them to hoist him.)
>
> This is a serious tool and uses at least a 20V battery—I doubt a 12V
> drill would work for any serious lift/grind.
>
> Back a few years ago it went for ~$400.
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C&C XL/kcb


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Stus-List Re: Seadeck / Raptor deck eva foam for cockpit

[George Cone via CnC-List]

Bruno,

I offer this as a thought, I purchased some of this material as a test, 
planning to remove it and buy the real expensive stuff,  because I was 
concerned how it would hold up under the stress of my dog. An active retriever. 
I was amazed how good it has worked and in-fact bought some more to finish the 
job.

Take a look on amazon -- CHURERSHINING EVA Teak Decking Sheet for Boat Yacht 
Marine Floor Carpet Non-Slip and Self-Adhesive Bevel Edge 
94.5"x35.4"

Thanks,
George Cone
C&C 40


From: Bruno Lachance via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 4:26 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Bruno Lachance 
Subject: Stus-List Seadeck / Raptor deck eva foam for cockpit

Hi,

The cockpit antiskip is long overdue on our 1987 33-2 and even with really good 
deck shoes it is now just unsafe. Our plan is to cover the cockpit sole, 
benches and bridgedeck with 5 mm light grey. The templates are made and both 
companies (Seadeck and Raptor) do custom work. You send theme the templates and 
they send you a quote. But before i send them my precious templates,  I would 
like to have a ballpark estimate, anybody on the list that have done the same 
and could give me a rough estimate. It could be from a C&C 29 to a let's say 37.

I have sailed on boats where the cockpit sole was covered with Raptor deck as 
antiskid. I loved the feel of it and the grip is really good and more comfy. I 
would prefer this to paint.

I know i could also buy a sheet of the same stuff and cut it myself, but i want 
it to look professional if the price is not outrageous.

Thank you!

Bruno Lachance
Bécassin, C&C 33-2
New-Richmond, Qc
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Stus-List C&C 40 PARTS

[George Cone via CnC-List]

I have many good parts at a great price for sale from a 40

1 ½ oz spinnaker
¾ oz spinnaker
Spinnaker pole and strut
Whisker pole
#1 light mylar headsail - very good condition
#3 heavy
Storm trysail
Storm Headsail
Many lines and sheets
Variety of blocks

Contact me for details
George Cone  802-236-4909
gc...@alpinesy.com
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