Stus-List Re: Fresh water pump dead?

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I am back to working on the freshwater pump problem.  I replaced the old pump 
(unknown age) with the same model Jabsco ParMax 1 that had failed and now it is 
pressurizing the system, so the old pump was definitely the problem.  However, 
the new pump will not shut off, even if left for extended time.  I can find no 
water or air leaks and the system stays pressurized enough to get water from 
the sink days after running the pump, so it does not seem to have a leak on the 
outlet side.  I am stumped as to why it will not shut off.  Suggestions?  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT



> On Aug 9, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Chris Riedinger  wrote:
> 
> The new shurflo is 4138-111-E65
> 
> It's 12v, 6.5a max and 3gpm. It's got 55psi auto shutoff 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 6:41 AM Chris Riedinger  > wrote:
> Was a jabsco, I replaced with sureflo. 
> 
> I can't find the model# on my log- I'll take a peek down there this morning . 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 6:17 AM David Knecht  > wrote:
> I can hear and feel the pump running fine, so I don’t think it is a 
> connection issue.  What pump did you replace yours with?  Dave
> 
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2022, at 10:35 PM, Chris Riedinger > > wrote:
>> 
>> Checking breakers or fuses
>> 
>> Any connections made - any corrosion in there? Are you getting 
>> (batteryV+)12v or only 10.2 indicating a possible short
>> 
>> Our water pump, which I believe was the original, just died last year and I 
>> swapped it out. I wish I had done that sooner, the new pump is both quieter 
>> and uses less aH 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Swaloon 37/40+
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022, 7:26 PM David Knecht via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Folks- I found that my fresh water pump was running continuously today 
>> and not pressurizing the system and not cutting out when pressurized.  I 
>> confirmed there was water in the tanks and flow to the manifold that 
>> controls tank choice.  But there was no water in the filter after the 
>> manifold and before the pump.  I removed the hose connecting the 
>> manifold/filter to the pump and when I sucked on it, I got water, so nothing 
>> appears blocked.  When I turned the pump on (Par-Max4), I could not feel any 
>> suction on the opening.  I presume these are self-priming pumps, so I should 
>> have felt some pull.  The pump is 30 years old, so I am presuming it is just 
>> dead, but wondering if there is any other scenario that might make it not 
>> work before I replace it.  Thanks- Dave
>> 
>> S/V Aries
>> 1990 C&C 34+
>> New London, CT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

Stus-List Re: Fresh water pump dead?

[james drew via CnC-List]

I used to have problems in the spring upon first filling the tank. I could not 
find any air leaks but the pump would start periodically.  Eventually I 
discovered it was air in the hot water tank.  So I bleed it thoroughly through 
the pressure release valve and that stops the problem.
Regards and good luck,
Jpdsailor

Stus-List Re: Fresh water pump dead?

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Is your water tank full??

Neil Andersen, W3NEA
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2022 10:40:02 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Fresh water pump dead?

I am back to working on the freshwater pump problem.  I replaced the old pump 
(unknown age) with the same model Jabsco ParMax 1 that had failed and now it is 
pressurizing the system, so the old pump was definitely the problem.  However, 
the new pump will not shut off, even if left for extended time.  I can find no 
water or air leaks and the system stays pressurized enough to get water from 
the sink days after running the pump, so it does not seem to have a leak on the 
outlet side.  I am stumped as to why it will not shut off.  Suggestions?  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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On Aug 9, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Chris Riedinger 
mailto:chris.riedin...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The new shurflo is 4138-111-E65

It's 12v, 6.5a max and 3gpm. It's got 55psi auto shutoff

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 6:41 AM Chris Riedinger 
mailto:chris.riedin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Was a jabsco, I replaced with sureflo.

I can't find the model# on my log- I'll take a peek down there this morning .

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 6:17 AM David Knecht 
mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I can hear and feel the pump running fine, so I don’t think it is a connection 
issue.  What pump did you replace yours with?  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

[X]

On Aug 8, 2022, at 10:35 PM, Chris Riedinger 
mailto:chris.riedin...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Checking breakers or fuses

Any connections made - any corrosion in there? Are you getting (batteryV+)12v 
or only 10.2 indicating a possible short

Our water pump, which I believe was the original, just died last year and I 
swapped it out. I wish I had done that sooner, the new pump is both quieter and 
uses less aH



Swaloon 37/40+

On Mon, Aug 8, 2022, 7:26 PM David Knecht via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi Folks- I found that my fresh water pump was running continuously today and 
not pressurizing the system and not cutting out when pressurized.  I confirmed 
there was water in the tanks and flow to the manifold that controls tank 
choice.  But there was no water in the filter after the manifold and before the 
pump.  I removed the hose connecting the manifold/filter to the pump and when I 
sucked on it, I got water, so nothing appears blocked.  When I turned the pump 
on (Par-Max4), I could not feel any suction on the opening.  I presume these 
are self-priming pumps, so I should have felt some pull.  The pump is 30 years 
old, so I am presuming it is just dead, but wondering if there is any other 
scenario that might make it not work before I replace it.  Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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Stus-List Re: Fresh water pump dead?

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I had similar problems with jabsco and shurflo, after going with the
Johnson, no problems.
I wondered if it could be a check valve, leaking back to the tank.  Another
thing to look at is the orientation of the pump - make sure you follow
directions, I think the exit should be on top.  you want to make sure it
doesn't trap air in the chamber, and running continuously could be just
trying to pump air.

Bill Coleman
Erie PA

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 10:40 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am back to working on the freshwater pump problem.  I replaced the old
> pump (unknown age) with the same model Jabsco ParMax 1 that had failed and
> now it is pressurizing the system, so the old pump was definitely the
> problem.  However, the new pump will not shut off, even if left for
> extended time.  I can find no water or air leaks and the system stays
> pressurized enough to get water from the sink days after running the pump,
> so it does not seem to have a leak on the outlet side.  I am stumped as to
> why it will not shut off.  Suggestions?  Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Chris Riedinger 
> wrote:
>
> The new shurflo is 4138-111-E65
>
> It's 12v, 6.5a max and 3gpm. It's got 55psi auto shutoff
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 6:41 AM Chris Riedinger 
> wrote:
>
>> Was a jabsco, I replaced with sureflo.
>>
>> I can't find the model# on my log- I'll take a peek down there this
>> morning .
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 6:17 AM David Knecht  wrote:
>>
>>> I can hear and feel the pump running fine, so I don’t think it is a
>>> connection issue.  What pump did you replace yours with?  Dave
>>>
>>> S/V Aries
>>> 1990 C&C 34+
>>> New London, CT
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 8, 2022, at 10:35 PM, Chris Riedinger 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Checking breakers or fuses
>>>
>>> Any connections made - any corrosion in there? Are you getting
>>> (batteryV+)12v or only 10.2 indicating a possible short
>>>
>>> Our water pump, which I believe was the original, just died last year
>>> and I swapped it out. I wish I had done that sooner, the new pump is both
>>> quieter and uses less aH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Swaloon 37/40+
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022, 7:26 PM David Knecht via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Folks- I found that my fresh water pump was running continuously
 today and not pressurizing the system and not cutting out when
 pressurized.  I confirmed there was water in the tanks and flow to the
 manifold that controls tank choice.  But there was no water in the filter
 after the manifold and before the pump.  I removed the hose connecting the
 manifold/filter to the pump and when I sucked on it, I got water, so
 nothing appears blocked.  When I turned the pump on (Par-Max4), I could not
 feel any suction on the opening.  I presume these are self-priming pumps,
 so I should have felt some pull.  The pump is 30 years old, so I am
 presuming it is just dead, but wondering if there is any other scenario
 that might make it not work before I replace it.  Thanks- Dave

 S/V Aries
 1990 C&C 34+
 New London, CT


 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Stus-List Re: Fresh water pump dead?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Did you liberally purge it?  If it has any air in it, it will continue to
run.  Run several gallons through it and then check it.

Barring that, the pressure switch may need adjusting.
--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 9:40 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am back to working on the freshwater pump problem.  I replaced the old
> pump (unknown age) with the same model Jabsco ParMax 1 that had failed and
> now it is pressurizing the system, so the old pump was definitely the
> problem.  However, the new pump will not shut off, even if left for
> extended time.  I can find no water or air leaks and the system stays
> pressurized enough to get water from the sink days after running the pump,
> so it does not seem to have a leak on the outlet side.  I am stumped as to
> why it will not shut off.  Suggestions?  Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
>

Stus-List Bimini or dodger extender suggestions

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Anyone have a nice bimini or dodger extension set up for a C&C 34 (1980 
vintage) or similar boat, that they like, and would share pictures? 

I have a nice dodger, but thinking of adding something extra for those very 
sunny days… not looking to break the bank, just wondering what options people 
like. Bonus points for something that can work with mainsail up and underway!

Dean Mc
BarraWind
C&C 34
Halifax, NS
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Stus-List Re: Bimini or dodger extender suggestions

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Quite happy with the arrangement on my 33-2

https://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2017/01/random-photos-hopefully-revealing-some.html?m=1

Dave 
Windstar 33-2



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> On Sep 2, 2022, at 2:59 AM, Dean McNeill via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Anyone have a nice bimini or dodger extension set up for a C&C 34 (1980 
> vintage) or similar boat, that they like, and would share pictures? 
> 
> I have a nice dodger, but thinking of adding something extra for those very 
> sunny days… not looking to break the bank, just wondering what options people 
> like. Bonus points for something that can work with mainsail up and underway!
> 
> Dean Mc
> BarraWind
> C&C 34
> Halifax, NS
> _
>