Stus-List Yanmar 3GM30F in C&C 30 MKI

[David Morris via CnC-List]

A trusted friend has a Yanmar 3GM30F available (he's going all electric).
I've bonded with our C&C 30 MKI Atomic 4, but diesel and a little more oomph
into a headwind and big water is appealing. Does anyone have an experience
with swapping the A4 to this model of Yanmar?

 

 

 

David J. Morris, MBA
President, D.J. Morris & Associates Ltd.
24 St. Paul's Place, Kingston, ON  K7M 7S3

Tel. 613-531-4429
email:   djmor...@djma-ltd.com
Member: Canadian Freelance Guild

Blogging at:  
http://davidmorrisjourneys.wordpress.com/

 



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Stus-List Bilge leak

[Michael Crombie via CnC-List]

I'm at a complete loss for ideas on this and would like to ask the group
for some suggestions.

I have had my C&C 33 mkii for 6 years now.  There has always been a small
leak in the bilge, i.e. water is actually seeping in through the forward
bilge wall about half-way down.

The bilge is about 2 feet deep and starts about a foot aft of the mast
step.

The PO had a grounding a couple of years before I bought the boat.  About 2
years after I bought the boat I brought it to Bristol Marine and had the
mast step reinforced (this was a know problem with 33's) and they also
dropped the keel and then rebedded it.

This work stopped the seeping, but it re-appeared a couple of years ago. I
sanded and applied barrier coat around the keel stub joint and the keel
stub.  This seemed to help, but the water ingress would start again about a
month or so after launch.

I, and several others, have inspected under the boat after haul-out and
none of us have seen any sign of moisture, cracks, C&C smile, etc.  It
looks perfect.

The amount of water is small. Maybe a pint glass every 2-3 weeks.

One boat repair guy suggested that I re-bed all my hatches.  I didn't
understand that at all.

I suppose the putty in the keel stub could be compromised. But I still
don't understand how water is getting in there.

Any ideas on the source of water??

I suppose I could just apply some glass to the inside of the bilge, but
that doesn't really solve the problem.  Should I drill into the forward end
of the bilge to drain the water and then inject some sort of epoxy mix?

Thanks in advance for your consideration!

Mike
Atacama, Toronto
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Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

[Adam Hayden via CnC-List]

Hey Mike

I have a similar issue.  Just remember that all moisture eventually ends up in 
the bilge.  I think your boat guy meant that if the hatches are leaking the 
water will end up there.

Adam

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.

From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 4:26:23 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Michael Crombie 
Subject: Stus-List Bilge leak

I'm at a complete loss for ideas on this and would like to ask the group for 
some suggestions.

I have had my C&C 33 mkii for 6 years now.  There has always been a small leak 
in the bilge, i.e. water is actually seeping in through the forward bilge wall 
about half-way down.

The bilge is about 2 feet deep and starts about a foot aft of the mast step.

The PO had a grounding a couple of years before I bought the boat.  About 2 
years after I bought the boat I brought it to Bristol Marine and had the mast 
step reinforced (this was a know problem with 33's) and they also dropped the 
keel and then rebedded it.

This work stopped the seeping, but it re-appeared a couple of years ago. I 
sanded and applied barrier coat around the keel stub joint and the keel stub.  
This seemed to help, but the water ingress would start again about a month or 
so after launch.

I, and several others, have inspected under the boat after haul-out and none of 
us have seen any sign of moisture, cracks, C&C smile, etc.  It looks perfect.

The amount of water is small. Maybe a pint glass every 2-3 weeks.

One boat repair guy suggested that I re-bed all my hatches.  I didn't 
understand that at all.

I suppose the putty in the keel stub could be compromised. But I still don't 
understand how water is getting in there.

Any ideas on the source of water??

I suppose I could just apply some glass to the inside of the bilge, but that 
doesn't really solve the problem.  Should I drill into the forward end of the 
bilge to drain the water and then inject some sort of epoxy mix?

Thanks in advance for your consideration!

Mike
Atacama, Toronto
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Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Mike,

The first thing to check is if the water is salt water or “fresh" water. If 
it’s fresh water, check your hatches and windows for leaks, as well as all of 
the places where you have deck controls attached to the boat (it could be a 
leak in one of your jib tracks or the traveler or along your toe rail. 

The best way to check where is to grab a bucket full of water and pour it over 
your hatches, deck fittings and sections of your toe rail - then see if your 
bilge is affected. 

Another possibility is condensation/moisture.

If its salt water, it’s most likely the keel joints or your stuffing box.  

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Jan 19, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I'm at a complete loss for ideas on this and would like to ask the group for 
some suggestions.

I have had my C&C 33 mkii for 6 years now.  There has always been a small leak 
in the bilge, i.e. water is actually seeping in through the forward bilge wall 
about half-way down.

The bilge is about 2 feet deep and starts about a foot aft of the mast step. 

The PO had a grounding a couple of years before I bought the boat.  About 2 
years after I bought the boat I brought it to Bristol Marine and had the mast 
step reinforced (this was a know problem with 33's) and they also dropped the 
keel and then rebedded it.

This work stopped the seeping, but it re-appeared a couple of years ago. I 
sanded and applied barrier coat around the keel stub joint and the keel stub.  
This seemed to help, but the water ingress would start again about a month or 
so after launch. 

I, and several others, have inspected under the boat after haul-out and none of 
us have seen any sign of moisture, cracks, C&C smile, etc.  It looks perfect. 

The amount of water is small. Maybe a pint glass every 2-3 weeks. 

One boat repair guy suggested that I re-bed all my hatches.  I didn't 
understand that at all.

I suppose the putty in the keel stub could be compromised. But I still don't 
understand how water is getting in there.

Any ideas on the source of water??

I suppose I could just apply some glass to the inside of the bilge, but that 
doesn't really solve the problem.  Should I drill into the forward end of the 
bilge to drain the water and then inject some sort of epoxy mix?  

Thanks in advance for your consideration!

Mike
Atacama, Toronto
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Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

[Michael Crombie via CnC-List]

But in my case the water is actually seeping in through the bilge wall not
running down into the bilge

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 3:36 PM Adam Hayden via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hey Mike
>
> I have a similar issue.  Just remember that all moisture eventually ends
> up in the bilge.  I think your boat guy meant that if the hatches are
> leaking the water will end up there.
>
> Adam
>
> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.
> --
> *From:* Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2021 4:26:23 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Michael Crombie 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Bilge leak
>
> I'm at a complete loss for ideas on this and would like to ask the group
> for some suggestions.
>
> I have had my C&C 33 mkii for 6 years now.  There has always been a small
> leak in the bilge, i.e. water is actually seeping in through the forward
> bilge wall about half-way down.
>
> The bilge is about 2 feet deep and starts about a foot aft of the mast
> step.
>
> The PO had a grounding a couple of years before I bought the boat.  About
> 2 years after I bought the boat I brought it to Bristol Marine and had the
> mast step reinforced (this was a know problem with 33's) and they also
> dropped the keel and then rebedded it.
>
> This work stopped the seeping, but it re-appeared a couple of years ago. I
> sanded and applied barrier coat around the keel stub joint and the keel
> stub.  This seemed to help, but the water ingress would start again about a
> month or so after launch.
>
> I, and several others, have inspected under the boat after haul-out and
> none of us have seen any sign of moisture, cracks, C&C smile, etc.  It
> looks perfect.
>
> The amount of water is small. Maybe a pint glass every 2-3 weeks.
>
> One boat repair guy suggested that I re-bed all my hatches.  I didn't
> understand that at all.
>
> I suppose the putty in the keel stub could be compromised. But I still
> don't understand how water is getting in there.
>
> Any ideas on the source of water??
>
> I suppose I could just apply some glass to the inside of the bilge, but
> that doesn't really solve the problem.  Should I drill into the forward end
> of the bilge to drain the water and then inject some sort of epoxy mix?
>
> Thanks in advance for your consideration!
>
> Mike
> Atacama, Toronto
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 So will the proverbial "water in the mast" (which I still can't comprehend)...;
 
Richard
 s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
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From: Adam Hayden via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Adam Hayden 
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2021 3:35 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

Hey Mike
I have a similar issue.  Just remember that all moisture eventually ends up in 
the bilge.  I think your boat guy meant that if the hatches are leaking the 
water will end up there.   
Adam
Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.From: Michael 
Crombie via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 4:26:23 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Michael Crombie 
Subject: Stus-List Bilge leak I'm at a complete loss for ideas on this and 
would like to ask the group for some suggestions.
I have had my C&C 33 mkii for 6 years now.  There has always been a small leak 
in the bilge, i.e. water is actually seeping in through the forward bilge wall 
about half-way down.
The bilge is about 2 feet deep and starts about a foot aft of the mast step. 
The PO had a grounding a couple of years before I bought the boat.  About 2 
years after I bought the boat I brought it to Bristol Marine and had the mast 
step reinforced (this was a know problem with 33's) and they also dropped the 
keel and then rebedded it.
This work stopped the seeping, but it re-appeared a couple of years ago. I 
sanded and applied barrier coat around the keel stub joint and the keel stub.  
This seemed to help, but the water ingress would start again about a month or 
so after launch. 
I, and several others, have inspected under the boat after haul-out and none of 
us have seen any sign of moisture, cracks, C&C smile, etc.  It looks perfect. 
The amount of water is small. Maybe a pint glass every 2-3 weeks. 
One boat repair guy suggested that I re-bed all my hatches.  I didn't 
understand that at all.
I suppose the putty in the keel stub could be compromised. But I still don't 
understand how water is getting in there.
Any ideas on the source of water??
I suppose I could just apply some glass to the inside of the bilge, but that 
doesn't really solve the problem.  Should I drill into the forward end of the 
bilge to drain the water and then inject some sort of epoxy mix?  
Thanks in advance for your consideration!
MikeAtacama, TorontoThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the 
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Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

[Matthew via CnC-List]

No salt water in Toronto.

 

From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 3:37 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

 

Mike,

 

The first thing to check is if the water is salt water or “fresh" water. If 
it’s fresh water, check your hatches and windows for leaks, as well as all of 
the places where you have deck controls attached to the boat (it could be a 
leak in one of your jib tracks or the traveler or along your toe rail. 

 

The best way to check where is to grab a bucket full of water and pour it over 
your hatches, deck fittings and sections of your toe rail - then see if your 
bilge is affected. 

 

Another possibility is condensation/moisture.

 

If its salt water, it’s most likely the keel joints or your stuffing box.  


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

 








 






 

On Jan 19, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

I'm at a complete loss for ideas on this and would like to ask the group for 
some suggestions.

 

I have had my C&C 33 mkii for 6 years now.  There has always been a small leak 
in the bilge, i.e. water is actually seeping in through the forward bilge wall 
about half-way down.

 

The bilge is about 2 feet deep and starts about a foot aft of the mast step. 

 

The PO had a grounding a couple of years before I bought the boat.  About 2 
years after I bought the boat I brought it to Bristol Marine and had the mast 
step reinforced (this was a know problem with 33's) and they also dropped the 
keel and then rebedded it.

 

This work stopped the seeping, but it re-appeared a couple of years ago. I 
sanded and applied barrier coat around the keel stub joint and the keel stub.  
This seemed to help, but the water ingress would start again about a month or 
so after launch. 

 

I, and several others, have inspected under the boat after haul-out and none of 
us have seen any sign of moisture, cracks, C&C smile, etc.  It looks perfect. 

 

The amount of water is small. Maybe a pint glass every 2-3 weeks. 

 

One boat repair guy suggested that I re-bed all my hatches.  I didn't 
understand that at all.

 

I suppose the putty in the keel stub could be compromised. But I still don't 
understand how water is getting in there.

 

Any ideas on the source of water??

 

I suppose I could just apply some glass to the inside of the bilge, but that 
doesn't really solve the problem.  Should I drill into the forward end of the 
bilge to drain the water and then inject some sort of epoxy mix?  

 

Thanks in advance for your consideration!

 

Mike

Atacama, Toronto

Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

 

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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

[Matthew via CnC-List]

Most of the water accumulating in my bilge is rain water working its way down 
the mast.

 

From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 3:26 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Michael Crombie 
Subject: Stus-List Bilge leak

 

I'm at a complete loss for ideas on this and would like to ask the group for 
some suggestions.

 

I have had my C&C 33 mkii for 6 years now.  There has always been a small leak 
in the bilge, i.e. water is actually seeping in through the forward bilge wall 
about half-way down.

 

The bilge is about 2 feet deep and starts about a foot aft of the mast step. 

 

The PO had a grounding a couple of years before I bought the boat.  About 2 
years after I bought the boat I brought it to Bristol Marine and had the mast 
step reinforced (this was a know problem with 33's) and they also dropped the 
keel and then rebedded it.

 

This work stopped the seeping, but it re-appeared a couple of years ago. I 
sanded and applied barrier coat around the keel stub joint and the keel stub.  
This seemed to help, but the water ingress would start again about a month or 
so after launch. 

 

I, and several others, have inspected under the boat after haul-out and none of 
us have seen any sign of moisture, cracks, C&C smile, etc.  It looks perfect. 

 

The amount of water is small. Maybe a pint glass every 2-3 weeks. 

 

One boat repair guy suggested that I re-bed all my hatches.  I didn't 
understand that at all.

 

I suppose the putty in the keel stub could be compromised. But I still don't 
understand how water is getting in there.

 

Any ideas on the source of water??

 

I suppose I could just apply some glass to the inside of the bilge, but that 
doesn't really solve the problem.  Should I drill into the forward end of the 
bilge to drain the water and then inject some sort of epoxy mix?  

 

Thanks in advance for your consideration!

 

Mike

Atacama, Toronto

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Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

[Matthew via CnC-List]

You can see a seep?  That’s not good.

 

From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 3:48 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Michael Crombie 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

 

But in my case the water is actually seeping in through the bilge wall not 
running down into the bilge

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 3:36 PM Adam Hayden via CnC-List, mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hey Mike

 

I have a similar issue.  Just remember that all moisture eventually ends up in 
the bilge.  I think your boat guy meant that if the hatches are leaking the 
water will end up there.   

 

Adam

 

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.

  _  

From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 4:26:23 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Michael Crombie mailto:michaelcrombi...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Bilge leak 

 

I'm at a complete loss for ideas on this and would like to ask the group for 
some suggestions. 

 

I have had my C&C 33 mkii for 6 years now.  There has always been a small leak 
in the bilge, i.e. water is actually seeping in through the forward bilge wall 
about half-way down.

 

The bilge is about 2 feet deep and starts about a foot aft of the mast step. 

 

The PO had a grounding a couple of years before I bought the boat.  About 2 
years after I bought the boat I brought it to Bristol Marine and had the mast 
step reinforced (this was a know problem with 33's) and they also dropped the 
keel and then rebedded it.

 

This work stopped the seeping, but it re-appeared a couple of years ago. I 
sanded and applied barrier coat around the keel stub joint and the keel stub.  
This seemed to help, but the water ingress would start again about a month or 
so after launch. 

 

I, and several others, have inspected under the boat after haul-out and none of 
us have seen any sign of moisture, cracks, C&C smile, etc.  It looks perfect. 

 

The amount of water is small. Maybe a pint glass every 2-3 weeks. 

 

One boat repair guy suggested that I re-bed all my hatches.  I didn't 
understand that at all.

 

I suppose the putty in the keel stub could be compromised. But I still don't 
understand how water is getting in there.

 

Any ideas on the source of water??

 

I suppose I could just apply some glass to the inside of the bilge, but that 
doesn't really solve the problem.  Should I drill into the forward end of the 
bilge to drain the water and then inject some sort of epoxy mix?  

 

Thanks in advance for your consideration!

 

Mike

Atacama, Toronto

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Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Mike - I see you did the Bristol repair.

You mention that the water comes from the ‘bilge wall’ which I take to mean the 
plywood partition at the forward end of the keel sump.  If so, is it leaking 
out of the holes drilled for the bilge pump hose clamps?  (This obviously means 
water is in the filled section) 

Does the water smell funny?  (The putty leaching has a unique aroma) 
Do your two forward keel bolts maintain their torque?
Does water collect only when in the water or when on the hard as well?   (Rain 
or lake water?)

Dave 
33-2  windstar 



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> On Jan 19, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Matthew via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Most of the water accumulating in my bilge is rain water working its way down 
> the mast.
>  
> From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List  
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 3:26 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Michael Crombie 
> Subject: Stus-List Bilge leak
>  
> I'm at a complete loss for ideas on this and would like to ask the group for 
> some suggestions.
>  
> I have had my C&C 33 mkii for 6 years now.  There has always been a small 
> leak in the bilge, i.e. water is actually seeping in through the forward 
> bilge wall about half-way down.
>  
> The bilge is about 2 feet deep and starts about a foot aft of the mast step. 
>  
> The PO had a grounding a couple of years before I bought the boat.  About 2 
> years after I bought the boat I brought it to Bristol Marine and had the mast 
> step reinforced (this was a know problem with 33's) and they also dropped the 
> keel and then rebedded it.
>  
> This work stopped the seeping, but it re-appeared a couple of years ago. I 
> sanded and applied barrier coat around the keel stub joint and the keel stub. 
>  This seemed to help, but the water ingress would start again about a month 
> or so after launch. 
>  
> I, and several others, have inspected under the boat after haul-out and none 
> of us have seen any sign of moisture, cracks, C&C smile, etc.  It looks 
> perfect. 
>  
> The amount of water is small. Maybe a pint glass every 2-3 weeks. 
>  
> One boat repair guy suggested that I re-bed all my hatches.  I didn't 
> understand that at all.
>  
> I suppose the putty in the keel stub could be compromised. But I still don't 
> understand how water is getting in there.
>  
> Any ideas on the source of water??
>  
> I suppose I could just apply some glass to the inside of the bilge, but that 
> doesn't really solve the problem.  Should I drill into the forward end of the 
> bilge to drain the water and then inject some sort of epoxy mix?  
>  
> Thanks in advance for your consideration!
>  
> Mike
> Atacama, Toronto
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

[Michael Crombie via CnC-List]

So there is some water that comes down the mast.  But the mast sits in a
metal box. I sealed the bottom with silicone, drilled a hole in the aft
side and ran a tube into the bilge. So any water that comes down the mast
runs directly into the bilge.

Somehow water is getting into the keel stub itself and then seeping into
the bilge through the bilge wall.
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Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

[Dave S via CnC-List]

So, with no damage evident, the water is either coming through the keel/hull 
joint, and migrating along the keel bolt up into the space where the putty 
fills the forward part of the keel stub. (Which is why i say to check the 
torque...).  OR - water, When it does get into the sump (rain, whatever) 
migrates into the filled forward section via the screw holes where the bilge 
pump hose clamps are secured.  It then seeps back out those holes later, back 
into the now-dry bilge.  Correct? (Mine was doing this, but only a few 
teaspoons of water would drain.  I drilled the plywood barrier to facilitate 
drainage last fall, and will epoxy the hole before launch.  My bilge pump hose 
will not be secured this way in future.  Did a bunch of work last fall in this 
area:


http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2020/?m=1

One unknown is that Water also collects under the shower pan and may find it’s 
way into the forward section.  Don’t think so but it may.  (It’s all hidden) 

Dave 
Windstar 33-2



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> On Jan 19, 2021, at 8:18 PM, Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> So there is some water that comes down the mast.  But the mast sits in a 
> metal box. I sealed the bottom with silicone, drilled a hole in the aft side 
> and ran a tube into the bilge. So any water that comes down the mast runs 
> directly into the bilge.
> 
> Somehow water is getting into the keel stub itself and then seeping into the 
> bilge through the bilge wall. 
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Stus-List Re: Bilge leak

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Mike,

Dave asked a key question.  I just want to highlight it and ask for some
more info.

When do you see the leak?  Is it continuous or intermittent?  If
intermittent, after a rain event?

Is the boat in the water or on the hard?


  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 2:48 PM Michael Crombie via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> But in my case the water is actually seeping in through the bilge wall not
> running down into the bilge
>
>
>
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